Would you take the #1 pick this year for Champ Baily? - The Orange Mane

baja · 03-20-2007, 01:18 AM

Why or why not.

spdirty · 03-20-2007, 01:20 AM

no...Champ to the Faid for 3 1st rounders and Burgess I would.

CSU Husker · 03-20-2007, 01:21 AM

Hell no, the chances of the top pick being as dominant as Champ are slim to none.

Kaylore · 03-20-2007, 01:22 AM

Because he's not worth Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Adrian Peterson, Gaines Adams - Not to mention he's proven and those are all unknowns that could bust. You're talking about one of the top five players in the whole league.

Clockwork Orange · 03-20-2007, 01:22 AM

Negative.

maven · 03-20-2007, 01:23 AM

Oh hell yes. I'd make this trade in less than a second!

DomCasual · 03-20-2007, 01:25 AM

Champ is the best player in the NFL at his position - a difficult position to man. You could argue he's the best player in the league on his side of the ball - certainly, he's in the top five. We don't need a QB, and I wouldn't invest a pick that high on a WR, as a general rule. There's no one else up there that would bring us near the value for the next 4-5 years that Champ will.

You are a crazy bastard for even bringing it up.

Clockwork Orange · 03-20-2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual

Champ is the best player in the NFL at his position - a difficult position to man. You could argue he's the best player in the league on his side of the ball - certainly, he's in the top five. We don't need a QB, and I wouldn't invest a pick that high on a WR, as a general rule. There's no one else up there that would bring us near the value for the next 4-5 years that Champ will.

You are a crazy bastard for even bringing it up.

According to the DPOY voting, he was the 2nd best defensive player in the NFL last season. You don't trade that for an unknown commodity, no matter what their upside is.

baja · 03-20-2007, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual

Champ is the best player in the NFL at his position - a difficult position to man. You could argue he's the best player in the league on his side of the ball - certainly, he's in the top five. We don't need a QB, and I wouldn't invest a pick that high on a WR, as a general rule. There's no one else up there that would bring us near the value for the next 4-5 years that Champ will.

You are a crazy bastard for even bringing it up.

Maybe you can come up with an off season thread for discussion than....

So far the vote is 9 to 2

DomCasual · 03-20-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by baja fan

Maybe you can come up with an off season thread for discussion than....

Has baja completely lost his mind?

Discuss.

The MVPlaya · 03-20-2007, 01:29 AM

Slap yourself and go jump off a cliff for making this thread.

Champ Bailey = 50% our defense.

Real talk.

Taco John · 03-20-2007, 01:36 AM

To me, our team has two untradeable players: Jay Cutler, Champ Bailey.

That's just my opinion, which I know there is a lot of disagreement. But I personally wouldn't take any trade related to these two players unless it was so ridiculous that the offer was constructed by a team of Dan Snyders and Matt Millens working around the clock to figure out the best way to completely screw their teams for the next decade or worse.

baja · 03-20-2007, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

To me, our team has two untradeable players: Jay Cutler, Champ Bailey.

That's just my opinion, which I know there is a lot of disagreement. But I personally wouldn't take any trade related to these two players unless it was so ridiculous that the offer was constructed by a team of Dan Snyders and Matt Millens working around the clock to figure out the best way to completely screw their teams for the next decade or worse.

I don't think you will find much disagreement with that.

maven · 03-20-2007, 01:40 AM

I'll take Calvin Johnson catching passes from Jay Cutler for the next decade plus than have a CB who's in his prime now only to fall. I've been high on CJ for many years. I'd dump Champ in a milisecond if it meant the Broncos were drafting Calvin Johnson.

Blueflame · 03-20-2007, 01:41 AM

As was noted above, Champ's value is proven; a draft pick... even #1 overall... has nothing more than potential. And I'd absolutely hate to see Champ in silver and black.

Clockwork Orange · 03-20-2007, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

To me, our team has two untradeable players: Jay Cutler, Champ Bailey.

That's about the size of it.

Los Broncos · 03-20-2007, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by maven

Oh hell yes. I'd make this trade in less than a second!

Wow

CHANGSTER · 03-20-2007, 01:46 AM

Hell no thats champ bailey man! Hell no again cause the raiders own the 1st pick! Hell no a 3rd time cause my jersey will be worthless!

Los Broncos · 03-20-2007, 01:47 AM

No, he shuts down hes side of the field.

Sassy · 03-20-2007, 01:48 AM

For an UNPROVEN...NO way.
We know what we have in Champ...besides, we are a little short at corner if Bly goes...

CBF1 · 03-20-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by baja fan

Why or why not.

Worst poll ever.... get a life brother,.

Kaylore · 03-20-2007, 01:51 AM

SoCal hasn't voted yet...

Clockwork Orange · 03-20-2007, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

SoCal hasn't voted yet...

He'll only vote yes if they can trade the #1 overall for 2 1sts a 2nd and a 3rd, then trade those for 7 3rds, 8 4ths and 10 5ths.

maven · 03-20-2007, 01:59 AM

I'm kinda surprised on the poll results. I am definately one of 2. I think people aren't seeing the big picture. Doesn't matter. We all have opinions. Cutler to Johnson for the next decade plus. Champ is in his prime now. He's not going to get better. He's hit his peak and his talent will begin to decline sooner rather than later. I've been a huge CJ fan and this guy is amazing. His only going to get better in the next 4 years as Champ is going to decline in the next 4. Who would you have? A player getting better or a player on the decline. Reality is what it is. Champ will decline as CJ gets better.

I think the poll voters are using too much emotion.

Kaylore · 03-20-2007, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

He'll only vote yes if they can trade the #1 overall for 2 1sts a 2nd and a 3rd, then trade those for 7 3rds, 8 4ths and 10 5ths.

View Poll Results: Would you trade Champ for the first pick in this year's draft?
yes	6	2.83%
no	206	97.17%
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03-20-2007, 01:18 AM	#1
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: in a bunker Posts: 54,377 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius Thomas	Would you take the #1 pick this year for Champ Baily? Why or why not.

03-20-2007, 01:20 AM	#2
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,923 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quentin Jammer	no...Champ to the Faid for 3 1st rounders and Burgess I would.

03-20-2007, 01:21 AM	#3
CSU Husker Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 447	Hell no, the chances of the top pick being as dominant as Champ are slim to none.

03-20-2007, 01:22 AM	#4
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,327 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Because he's not worth Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Adrian Peterson, Gaines Adams - Not to mention he's proven and those are all unknowns that could bust. You're talking about one of the top five players in the whole league.

03-20-2007, 01:22 AM	#5
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Negative.

03-20-2007, 01:23 AM	#6
maven ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,867	Oh hell yes. I'd make this trade in less than a second!

03-20-2007, 01:25 AM	#7
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,211 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	Champ is the best player in the NFL at his position - a difficult position to man. You could argue he's the best player in the league on his side of the ball - certainly, he's in the top five. We don't need a QB, and I wouldn't invest a pick that high on a WR, as a general rule. There's no one else up there that would bring us near the value for the next 4-5 years that Champ will. You are a crazy bastard for even bringing it up.

03-20-2007, 01:29 AM	#11
The MVPlaya Denver Broncos out with the old, IN WITH THE NEW Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,384	Slap yourself and go jump off a cliff for making this thread. Champ Bailey = 50% our defense. Real talk.

03-20-2007, 01:36 AM	#12
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	To me, our team has two untradeable players: Jay Cutler, Champ Bailey. That's just my opinion, which I know there is a lot of disagreement. But I personally wouldn't take any trade related to these two players unless it was so ridiculous that the offer was constructed by a team of Dan Snyders and Matt Millens working around the clock to figure out the best way to completely screw their teams for the next decade or worse.

03-20-2007, 01:40 AM	#14
maven ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,867	I'll take Calvin Johnson catching passes from Jay Cutler for the next decade plus than have a CB who's in his prime now only to fall. I've been high on CJ for many years. I'd dump Champ in a milisecond if it meant the Broncos were drafting Calvin Johnson.

03-20-2007, 01:41 AM	#15
Blueflame Miss Congeniality Welcome to Peyton's Place Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: in my cups... lol Posts: 33,069 Adopt-a-Bronco: Randy Gradishar	As was noted above, Champ's value is proven; a draft pick... even #1 overall... has nothing more than potential. And I'd absolutely hate to see Champ in silver and black.

03-20-2007, 01:46 AM	#18
CHANGSTER You are a pizza burn... on the roof of the world's mouth Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SD Posts: 1,531	Hell no thats champ bailey man! Hell no again cause the raiders own the 1st pick! Hell no a 3rd time cause my jersey will be worthless!

03-20-2007, 01:47 AM	#19
Los Broncos Flaw Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 18,803 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	No, he shuts down hes side of the field.

03-20-2007, 01:48 AM	#20
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	For an UNPROVEN...NO way. We know what we have in Champ...besides, we are a little short at corner if Bly goes...

03-20-2007, 01:51 AM	#22
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,327 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	SoCal hasn't voted yet...

03-20-2007, 01:59 AM	#24
maven ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,867	I'm kinda surprised on the poll results. I am definately one of 2. I think people aren't seeing the big picture. Doesn't matter. We all have opinions. Cutler to Johnson for the next decade plus. Champ is in his prime now. He's not going to get better. He's hit his peak and his talent will begin to decline sooner rather than later. I've been a huge CJ fan and this guy is amazing. His only going to get better in the next 4 years as Champ is going to decline in the next 4. Who would you have? A player getting better or a player on the decline. Reality is what it is. Champ will decline as CJ gets better. I think the poll voters are using too much emotion.