Wilkinson deadline extended - The Orange Mane

eddie mac · 03-16-2007, 08:38 AM

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_5447447

The Broncos have not given up on the idea of having Dan Wilkinson clogging the middle of their defensive front.

The Broncos and Miami Dolphins have agreed to extend Wilkinson's reporting date with Denver, keeping alive the trade the teams made March 3, an NFL source confirmed. Today was the original reporting date for Wilkinson to show up and take a physical, as written into the trade. If the deal is voided, Wilkinson's rights go back to the Dolphins and the Broncos get back the sixth-round pick they agreed to send the Dolphins for the April 28-29 draft.

The teams can agree to extend Wilkinson's reporting date as long as they wish. The ultimate deadline, though, must precede the draft because both teams need to know the status of the pick.

The extension seems to indicate Denver intends to have the 340-pound Wilkinson, who turned 34 on Tuesday, in the middle of its defense. Wilkinson fits the system of Jim Bates, Denver's new assistant head coach in charge of defense. Bates likes to have big, quick defensive tackles.

The Broncos seem confident Wilkinson will decide to play for them. Last year, when Wilkinson went from the Detroit Lions to Miami, he didn't report to the Dolphins until several weeks after agreeing to terms.

Wilkinson, a former No. 1 overall pick, has been reluctant to attend offseason workout programs. Denver's offseason conditioning program begins April 2.

While waiting on Wilkinson, the Broncos brought in defensive tackles Alfonso Boone and Ian Scott for visits. Scott is in talks with Minnesota, Chicago, Atlanta and Kansas City. Boone is talking to Kansas City and Chicago in addition to Denver.

According to Burger Bill we're not even negotiating with Scott. That's sure to piss off a few fans on here.

Rascal · 03-16-2007, 09:08 AM

Well if he is visiting, then I'm guessing there will be negotiating.

HEAV · 03-16-2007, 09:18 AM

Fat guys in the middle rock!

Ratboy · 03-16-2007, 09:28 AM

I guess Denver really wants him..

Ratboy · 03-16-2007, 09:37 AM

Big guys?

Alan Branch
Paul Soliai
Stanley Doughty
Quintin Echols

footstepsfrom#27 · 03-16-2007, 09:44 AM

Why don't we just get down on our hands and knees and beg like a pauper with a tin cup? What's up with this crap? This guy's a 10-15 play per game rotational cog, maybe on the goal line...nothing more. We're treating his sorry arse like he's Merlin Olson, Mean Joe Green and Randy White rolled into one. I don't care if he shows or not...in fact I prefer that 6th rounder back instead.

fontaine · 03-16-2007, 09:47 AM

Ofcourse we're not going after Scott.

Let's go after the 34 year old, fat DT who's offseason conditioning program so far has been one of chilling out on a cruise contemplating retirement and is coming off a season where he hardly played.

Screw Scott. He only started on a SuperBowl defense and is a good young run stuffer.

Rewind back a few years and we had a similar system here with fatbody DTs that eat up space in Chester McGloughton and then we changed to a Tampa Bay type DL with fast aggressive DL when Coyer was in charge. Now it's back to big, overweight DTs.

The more things change the more Denver's DL sucks.

55CrushEm · 03-16-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Why don't we just get down on our hands and knees and beg like a pauper with a tin cup? What's up with this crap? This guy's a 10-15 play per game rotational cog, maybe on the goal line...nothing more. We're treating his sorry arse like he's Merlin Olson, Mean Joe Green and Randy White rolled into one. I don't care if he shows or not...in fact I prefer that 6th rounder back instead.

I agree with you......we want players who WANT to be here. This guy clearly doesn't want to be here.....otherwise he WOULD be here....on time.

Get the 6th rounder back. We'll find a different fat-a$$....one who's younger.

Man-Goblin · 03-16-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Why don't we just get down on our hands and knees and beg like a pauper with a tin cup? What's up with this crap? This guy's a 10-15 play per game rotational cog, maybe on the goal line...nothing more. We're treating his sorry arse like he's Merlin Olson, Mean Joe Green and Randy White rolled into one. I don't care if he shows or not...in fact I prefer that 6th rounder back instead.

We're not getting that 6th round pick back. Reports are that Wilkinson ate it.

ICON · 03-16-2007, 10:00 AM

Odysseus · 03-16-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fontaine

The more things change the more Denver's DL sucks.

This isn't exactly true. That would imply it gets worst every year and that is clearly not possible.

Hogan11 · 03-16-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 55CrushEm

I agree with you......we want players who WANT to be here. This guy clearly doesn't want to be here.....otherwise he WOULD be here....on time.

Get the 6th rounder back. We'll find a different fat-a$$....one who's younger.

I agree as well...we're wasting time with this guy and it's about time to turn the page on him.

fontaine · 03-16-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by quiettiger

This isn't exactly true. That would imply it gets worst every year and that is clearly not possible.

You'd think so but yes it can get worse. Now players are quitting before they even get on the field! Wilkinson is thinking about it and C. Brown is almost there!

eddie mac · 03-16-2007, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fontaine

You'd think so but yes it can get worse. Now players are quitting before they even get on the field! Wilkinson is thinking about it and C. Brown is almost there!

There's a hell of a difference between Brown and Wilkinson. One's a lazy **** and the other's just injury prone. Certainly not CB's fault just the way he's built.

footstepsfrom#27 · 03-16-2007, 11:25 AM

The one good thing about this is that at least it tells us Shanny knows the defensive line needs some attention, and if this dude wimps out and we lose out in the free agency competition for Boone or Scott, maybe we'll actually draft some beef in the D-line in order to try and fix the problem this time around instead of another punt returner.

Traveler · 03-16-2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

The one good thing about this is that at least it tells us Shanny knows the defensive line needs some attention, and if this dude wimps out and we lose out in the free agency competition for Boone or Scott, maybe we'll actually draft some beef in the D-line in order to try and fix the problem this time around instead of another punt returner.

Even if true, it only took him 7-8 years to realize there was a problem with our DL (sarcasm).

That said, they are still bringing in old retreads as stop-gap measures with the Cleveland crew the notable exceptions.

Are they really that bad in selecting younger defensive talent? Or scared?

Tredici · 03-16-2007, 11:41 AM

Wilkinson fits the system of Jim Bates, Denver's new assistant head coach in charge of defense.

Flail, piss and moan about the guy all you want to. Bottom line is the guy in charge thinks it worth taking the shot. So I guess it's his call.

worm · 03-16-2007, 11:43 AM

Watching Gilbert Brown breathe in SB32 made me love fat guys in the middle.....playing for the other team that is.

I just can't see Wilkinson coming in and playing more then 8 decent snaps at Mile High.

BroncoInferno · 03-16-2007, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tredici

Wilkinson fits the system of Jim Bates, Denver's new assistant head coach in charge of defense.

Flail, piss and moan about the guy all you want to. Bottom line is the guy in charge thinks it worth taking the shot. So I guess it's his call.

Amen. It's a shame Shanny didn't hire some of our resident whiners instead of a guy with a proven track record of success. We'd be top 5 in no time!

Odysseus · 03-16-2007, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tredici

Wilkinson fits the system of Jim Bates, Denver's new assistant head coach in charge of defense.

Flail, piss and moan about the guy all you want to. Bottom line is the guy in charge thinks it worth taking the shot. So I guess it's his call.

I think Big Daddy is like McGlockton. We're going to talk trash about him even if he does well. McGlockton was like baited by sports writers all year but nothing happened and he actually played pretty well.

I hope Mr. Bates gets this man a protege. Depth at the DL would be a very nice change of pace.

footstepsfrom#27 · 03-16-2007, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Amen. It's a shame Shanny didn't hire some of our resident whiners instead of a guy with a proven track record of success. We'd be top 5 in no time!

Maybe he will yet...isn't he running out of DC's he can bring in here? How many have we had? I remember Robinson, Ray Rhodes, Coyer and now Bates just since the Superbowl years...am I missing anyone? That's one every 2 1/2 years...any idea who the next one will be after Bates leaves in 2009?

cutthemdown · 03-16-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by worm

Watching Gilbert Brown breathe in SB32 made me love fat guys in the middle.....playing for the other team that is.

I just can't see Wilkinson coming in and playing more then 8 decent snaps at Mile High.

lol only 8 snaps.

fontaine · 03-16-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Amen. It's a shame Shanny didn't hire some of our resident whiners instead of a guy with a proven track record of success. We'd be top 5 in no time!

It's not that, it's just that we've all seen this song and dance before when Rhodes was here. We had big body DTs which sucked, then we went the Tampa Bay route when they won the SB, and now it's back to big DTs.

I'm absolutely certain Bates will get some production out of retreads and castoffs, hey he's a good motivator.

But no scheme is going to change things unless we spend big resources towards the DL over a number of years. FA and Draft.

Wilkinson is just another in a long, long, tired line of one year fixes. Oh well, there's always the possibility that he might retire.

Ratboy · 03-16-2007, 12:24 PM

Bring back the Orange Jerseys!

azbroncfan · 03-16-2007, 12:29 PM

In order for Denver to sign any DL, they must be traded to Cleveland first.

03-16-2007, 08:38 AM	#1
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	Wilkinson deadline extended http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_5447447 The Broncos have not given up on the idea of having Dan Wilkinson clogging the middle of their defensive front. The Broncos and Miami Dolphins have agreed to extend Wilkinson's reporting date with Denver, keeping alive the trade the teams made March 3, an NFL source confirmed. Today was the original reporting date for Wilkinson to show up and take a physical, as written into the trade. If the deal is voided, Wilkinson's rights go back to the Dolphins and the Broncos get back the sixth-round pick they agreed to send the Dolphins for the April 28-29 draft. The teams can agree to extend Wilkinson's reporting date as long as they wish. The ultimate deadline, though, must precede the draft because both teams need to know the status of the pick. The extension seems to indicate Denver intends to have the 340-pound Wilkinson, who turned 34 on Tuesday, in the middle of its defense. Wilkinson fits the system of Jim Bates, Denver's new assistant head coach in charge of defense. Bates likes to have big, quick defensive tackles. The Broncos seem confident Wilkinson will decide to play for them. Last year, when Wilkinson went from the Detroit Lions to Miami, he didn't report to the Dolphins until several weeks after agreeing to terms. Wilkinson, a former No. 1 overall pick, has been reluctant to attend offseason workout programs. Denver's offseason conditioning program begins April 2. While waiting on Wilkinson, the Broncos brought in defensive tackles Alfonso Boone and Ian Scott for visits. Scott is in talks with Minnesota, Chicago, Atlanta and Kansas City. Boone is talking to Kansas City and Chicago in addition to Denver. According to Burger Bill we're not even negotiating with Scott. That's sure to piss off a few fans on here.

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Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	Well if he is visiting, then I'm guessing there will be negotiating.

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Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	I guess Denver really wants him..

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Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	Big guys? Alan Branch Paul Soliai Stanley Doughty Quintin Echols

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footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	Why don't we just get down on our hands and knees and beg like a pauper with a tin cup? What's up with this crap? This guy's a 10-15 play per game rotational cog, maybe on the goal line...nothing more. We're treating his sorry arse like he's Merlin Olson, Mean Joe Green and Randy White rolled into one. I don't care if he shows or not...in fact I prefer that 6th rounder back instead.

03-16-2007, 09:47 AM	#7
fontaine Ring of Famer Go John Manning! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,428	Ofcourse we're not going after Scott. Let's go after the 34 year old, fat DT who's offseason conditioning program so far has been one of chilling out on a cruise contemplating retirement and is coming off a season where he hardly played. Screw Scott. He only started on a SuperBowl defense and is a good young run stuffer. Rewind back a few years and we had a similar system here with fatbody DTs that eat up space in Chester McGloughton and then we changed to a Tampa Bay type DL with fast aggressive DL when Coyer was in charge. Now it's back to big, overweight DTs. The more things change the more Denver's DL sucks.

03-16-2007, 11:25 AM	#15
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	The one good thing about this is that at least it tells us Shanny knows the defensive line needs some attention, and if this dude wimps out and we lose out in the free agency competition for Boone or Scott, maybe we'll actually draft some beef in the D-line in order to try and fix the problem this time around instead of another punt returner.

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Tredici Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,010	Wilkinson fits the system of Jim Bates, Denver's new assistant head coach in charge of defense. Flail, piss and moan about the guy all you want to. Bottom line is the guy in charge thinks it worth taking the shot. So I guess it's his call.

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worm Great moments are born... ...from great opportunity Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,947 Adopt-a-Bronco: #20	Watching Gilbert Brown breathe in SB32 made me love fat guys in the middle.....playing for the other team that is. I just can't see Wilkinson coming in and playing more then 8 decent snaps at Mile High.

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azbroncfan Ring of Famer Angry guntoting,meateating AMERICAN Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 8,669 Adopt-a-Bronco: TEBOW	In order for Denver to sign any DL, they must be traded to Cleveland first.