Hillary ....."if elected president , we stay in Iraq" - The Orange Mane

Spider · 03-15-2007, 12:10 AM

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Senato...t_we_0314.html

Senator Clinton: If elected president, we will stay in Iraq
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"Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton foresees a “remaining military as well as political mission” in Iraq, and says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced but significant military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military," reports the New York Times.

Clinton said a "scaled-down American military force" would stay in Iraq but off the streets of Baghdad. The force would also not get involved in sectarian violence "even if it descended into ethnic cleansing," writes Michael Gordon and Patrick Healy.

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The United States’ security would be undermined if parts of Iraq turned into a failed state “that serves as a petri dish for insurgents and Al Qaeda,” she said. “It is right in the heart of the oil region. It is directly in opposition to our interests, to the interests of regimes, to Israel’s interests.”

“So I think it will be up to me to try to figure out how to protect those national security interests and continue to take our troops out of this urban warfare, which I think is a loser,” Mrs. Clinton added. She declined to estimate the number of American troops she would keep in Iraq, saying she would draw on the advice of the military officers who would have to carry out the strategy.

Mrs. Clinton has said she would vote for a proposed Democratic resolution on Iraq now being debated on the floor of the Senate, which sets a goal of redeploying all combat forces by March 31, 2008. Asked if her Iraq plan was consistent with the resolution, Mrs. Clinton and her advisers said it was, noting that the resolution also called for “a limited number” of troops to stay in Iraq to protect the American Embassy and other personnel, train and equip Iraqi forces, and conduct “targeted counter-terrorism operation.”
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Spider · 03-15-2007, 12:12 AM

Looks like Hillary stopped poll chasing , giving the attitude twords the Iraqi war , looks like she is committing political suicide ..............

Meck77 · 03-15-2007, 12:19 AM

I can't keep up with her anymore. She's done. I'm just curious would anyone really vote for her to be president? I'm serious?

Rascal · 03-15-2007, 12:20 AM

For the sake of this country I really hope the dems converge on somebody else.

We've had a recent **** up with Bush, let's not perpetuate the problem by going with her.

Is it me, or do al of the potential presidents have huge glaring issues?

Clinton...psychopath
Bama...Flaming liberal despite being well spoken and possessing good charm
McCain...no longer the rebal people initially thought, and in bed with Bush
Guilianni...was a mayor, and before 9-11 didn't do anything. I have a hard time voting for a guy who became an icon because of a terroist attack when that person didn't do a damn thing.

Spider · 03-15-2007, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meck77

I can't keep up with her anymore. She's done.

agreed ........She is all over the place

Bronco Bob · 03-15-2007, 01:09 AM

And yet in polls of likely candidates, of those favoring Hillary, 60% said they
would definitely vote for her for president. While of those favoring Obama,
two thirds weren't strongly for him, and could be persuaded to vote for
someone else. With the machine the Clintons have, unless something
drastic happens before February, I'd say Clinton is a lock for the nominee.

cbs1177 · 03-15-2007, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rascal

For the sake of this country I really hope the dems converge on somebody else.

We've had a recent **** up with Bush, let's not perpetuate the problem by going with her.

Is it me, or do al of the potential presidents have huge glaring issues?

Clinton...psychopath
Bama...Flaming liberal despite being well spoken and possessing good charm
McCain...no longer the rebal people initially thought, and in bed with Bush
Guilianni...was a mayor, and before 9-11 didn't do anything. I have a hard time voting for a guy who became an icon because of a terroist attack when that person didn't do a damn thing.

he cleaned up Gotham not enough. sure he has a soap opera life I thought you would have went along those lines instead of not a good mayor. he planed and re planned for a disaster. His local government was more prepared then fema was with a freaking hurricane which of course can be tracked and dealt with (know what is coming) unlike an attack.

Crushaholic · 03-15-2007, 01:23 AM

PLEASE let Hillary be the Democrat nominee...

cbs1177 · 03-15-2007, 01:28 AM

Interesting pres election b/c first time in half a centruy no preexisting adminstration running. no VP running cliff notes version. field wide open.

Bronco Bob · 03-15-2007, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

PLEASE let Hillary be the Democrat nominee...

Can you say Madam President?

Bronco Bob · 03-15-2007, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbs1177

Interesting pres election b/c first time in half a centruy no preexisting adminstration running. no VP running cliff notes version. field wide open.

Recently VPs have tended to make lousy presidents anyway. Johnson, Nixon, Bush 41.
And it was years before Truman was appreciated.
Can you imagine what things would be like if Cheney was president?

cbs1177 · 03-15-2007, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Recently VPs have tended to make lousy presidents anyway. Johnson, Nixon, Bush 41.
And it was years before Truman was appreciated.
Can you imagine what things would be like if Cheney was president?

no one would even give him a chance four heart attacks come on his health isn't all that and evidently his sight isn't either mistaken a long life friend for a bird to be hunted. He knew he couldn't be president and doesn't have the people skills for the job any how.

cutthemdown · 03-15-2007, 01:53 AM

I don't think leaving Iraq all together would be a very good idea. I for one breath a sigh of relief to hear her say that. Does Obama say a total pullout?

Crushaholic · 03-15-2007, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Can you say Madam President?

Condoleeza Rice hasn't declared she's running...

Bronco Bob · 03-15-2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

Condoleeza Rice hasn't declared she's running...

What's your point?

Rohirrim · 03-15-2007, 09:22 AM

I just wonder when Hillary is going to admit she's actually running for the Republican nomination?

alkemical · 03-15-2007, 09:34 AM

Clinton & Bush? Two peas in a pod.

bendog · 03-15-2007, 11:14 AM

I think Obama has also said there'd be a remaining small force to track al queda and help train Iraqis. It would be sort of nuts to not keep anti-terrorist forces there. No manning check points and doing traffic control ... only bushii wants that. Even McCain, I assume, wants to end this multi-national tragedy.

Spider · 03-15-2007, 11:47 AM

the way it looks , I might be voting 3 rd party this year ........ damn now me and W*GS will have something to talk about ........... If I could just get passed the cocaine thing with Obama ......... but I wont ......Hillary scares the hell out of me , she is alll over the place on issues ,`Biden is an opportunists , like McCain , no way I vote for Mitt ,or Rudy ......... who is the 3 rd party candidate ?hell I did vote perrot in 92 ... nothing can be worse then that

Garcia Bronco · 03-15-2007, 11:52 AM

why wouldn't you vote for Mitt?

Spider · 03-15-2007, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

why wouldn't you vote for Mitt?

Mormon ......... a lot of good points to their religion, but once a Mormon always a mormon , jack or otherwise

bendog · 03-15-2007, 11:57 AM

I doubt I'd vote for Hill, and I plan to register Dem for the primary to vote for Obama .... though if Rudy has a shot, I might vote for him.

But it's not about staying in Iraq. We have anti-terrorist troops in the Phillipean (sp) Islands. You can bet the Aussies have guys ready to go into Indonesia (if they're not secretely there now). We had/have guys in Yemen. By invading we totally fubared and created a terrorist haven, but it's water under the bridge. The next potus will have to face the fact that the sunni area, at least, will give some cover to al queda for the forseeable future.

My beef with Hill is that she didn't have the stones of even Hagel. Voting to authorize force BEFORE Saddam let the inspectors in was the right thing. However, bushii was supposed to tell congress why force was still necessary BEFORE invading. With bushii at 60%+ in the polls, very few in congress questioned the invasion when it happened. Hagel did, and so did McCain ... sort of. Hill kept quiet and did "the smart thing."

The sheep bought the line that womd were a danger to us, but those who were watching knew it was a lie. Some who were watching thought that it was still a good idea to get rid of Saddam, though I think even some of those may rethink that one.

bendog · 03-15-2007, 11:58 AM

Romney's spineless.

03-15-2007, 12:10 AM	#1
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Hillary ....."if elected president , we stay in Iraq" http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Senato...t_we_0314.html Senator Clinton: If elected president, we will stay in Iraq RAW STORY Published: Wednesday March 14, 2007 Print This Email This "Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton foresees a “remaining military as well as political mission” in Iraq, and says that if elected president, she would keep a reduced but significant military force there to fight Al Qaeda, deter Iranian aggression, protect the Kurds and possibly support the Iraqi military," reports the New York Times. Clinton said a "scaled-down American military force" would stay in Iraq but off the streets of Baghdad. The force would also not get involved in sectarian violence "even if it descended into ethnic cleansing," writes Michael Gordon and Patrick Healy. Excerpts follow: # The United States’ security would be undermined if parts of Iraq turned into a failed state “that serves as a petri dish for insurgents and Al Qaeda,” she said. “It is right in the heart of the oil region. It is directly in opposition to our interests, to the interests of regimes, to Israel’s interests.” “So I think it will be up to me to try to figure out how to protect those national security interests and continue to take our troops out of this urban warfare, which I think is a loser,” Mrs. Clinton added. She declined to estimate the number of American troops she would keep in Iraq, saying she would draw on the advice of the military officers who would have to carry out the strategy. Mrs. Clinton has said she would vote for a proposed Democratic resolution on Iraq now being debated on the floor of the Senate, which sets a goal of redeploying all combat forces by March 31, 2008. Asked if her Iraq plan was consistent with the resolution, Mrs. Clinton and her advisers said it was, noting that the resolution also called for “a limited number” of troops to stay in Iraq to protect the American Embassy and other personnel, train and equip Iraqi forces, and conduct “targeted counter-terrorism operation.” # READ THE FULL NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE HERE

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03-15-2007, 12:12 AM	#2
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Looks like Hillary stopped poll chasing , giving the attitude twords the Iraqi war , looks like she is committing political suicide ..............

03-15-2007, 12:19 AM	#3
Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,310	I can't keep up with her anymore. She's done. I'm just curious would anyone really vote for her to be president? I'm serious?

03-15-2007, 12:20 AM	#4
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	For the sake of this country I really hope the dems converge on somebody else. We've had a recent **** up with Bush, let's not perpetuate the problem by going with her. Is it me, or do al of the potential presidents have huge glaring issues? Clinton...psychopath Bama...Flaming liberal despite being well spoken and possessing good charm McCain...no longer the rebal people initially thought, and in bed with Bush Guilianni...was a mayor, and before 9-11 didn't do anything. I have a hard time voting for a guy who became an icon because of a terroist attack when that person didn't do a damn thing.

03-15-2007, 01:09 AM	#6
Bronco Bob Tastee Freeze Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,464 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	And yet in polls of likely candidates, of those favoring Hillary, 60% said they would definitely vote for her for president. While of those favoring Obama, two thirds weren't strongly for him, and could be persuaded to vote for someone else. With the machine the Clintons have, unless something drastic happens before February, I'd say Clinton is a lock for the nominee.

03-15-2007, 01:23 AM	#8
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,043	PLEASE let Hillary be the Democrat nominee...

03-15-2007, 01:28 AM	#9
cbs1177 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,209	Interesting pres election b/c first time in half a centruy no preexisting adminstration running. no VP running cliff notes version. field wide open.

03-15-2007, 01:53 AM	#13
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,454	I don't think leaving Iraq all together would be a very good idea. I for one breath a sigh of relief to hear her say that. Does Obama say a total pullout?

03-15-2007, 09:22 AM	#16
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,833	I just wonder when Hillary is going to admit she's actually running for the Republican nomination?

03-15-2007, 09:34 AM	#17
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,694 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Clinton & Bush? Two peas in a pod.

03-15-2007, 11:14 AM	#18
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	I think Obama has also said there'd be a remaining small force to track al queda and help train Iraqis. It would be sort of nuts to not keep anti-terrorist forces there. No manning check points and doing traffic control ... only bushii wants that. Even McCain, I assume, wants to end this multi-national tragedy.

03-15-2007, 11:47 AM	#19
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	the way it looks , I might be voting 3 rd party this year ........ damn now me and W*GS will have something to talk about ........... If I could just get passed the cocaine thing with Obama ......... but I wont ......Hillary scares the hell out of me , she is alll over the place on issues ,`Biden is an opportunists , like McCain , no way I vote for Mitt ,or Rudy ......... who is the 3 rd party candidate ?hell I did vote perrot in 92 ... nothing can be worse then that

03-15-2007, 11:52 AM	#20
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	why wouldn't you vote for Mitt?

03-15-2007, 11:57 AM	#22
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	I doubt I'd vote for Hill, and I plan to register Dem for the primary to vote for Obama .... though if Rudy has a shot, I might vote for him. But it's not about staying in Iraq. We have anti-terrorist troops in the Phillipean (sp) Islands. You can bet the Aussies have guys ready to go into Indonesia (if they're not secretely there now). We had/have guys in Yemen. By invading we totally fubared and created a terrorist haven, but it's water under the bridge. The next potus will have to face the fact that the sunni area, at least, will give some cover to al queda for the forseeable future. My beef with Hill is that she didn't have the stones of even Hagel. Voting to authorize force BEFORE Saddam let the inspectors in was the right thing. However, bushii was supposed to tell congress why force was still necessary BEFORE invading. With bushii at 60%+ in the polls, very few in congress questioned the invasion when it happened. Hagel did, and so did McCain ... sort of. Hill kept quiet and did "the smart thing." The sheep bought the line that womd were a danger to us, but those who were watching knew it was a lie. Some who were watching thought that it was still a good idea to get rid of Saddam, though I think even some of those may rethink that one.

03-15-2007, 11:58 AM	#23
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	Romney's spineless.