911 Commission timeline a fabrication

[mhgaffney]

According to the 911 Commission Report (p. 33), which is the official narrative about what happened on September 11, 2001, the pentagon strike occurred at 9:37 AM.

But hard evidence refutes this official claim. A photo posted by the Smithsonian (below) shows that the clock at the pentagon heliport stopped at 9:32 AM, five minutes earlier.

Furthermore, a US Navy web site shows a pentagon clock frozen at the same time, 9:32 AM.
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=2480

Surely this was the time of the strike. Why then the disparity?

In a forthcoming post I will explain this discrepancy. I may as well tell you right now that the timeline in the 911 Commission Report is a fabrication -- a lie -- designed to conceal evidence, which, if revealed, would show that 911 was an inside job.

Stay tuned! MHG

[Bronco Bob]

In the building I work in some are as much as an hour off. There is some
odd central control that never seems to work right. Sometime the hands
will just starting spinning around aimlessly. We don't even use those
clocks, we have battery powered clocks that we use. I just use my
wristwatch that I set to http://www.time.gov/
Maybe those same sort of clocks were in the Pentagon?

[mhgaffney]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

In the building I work in some are as much as an hour off. There is some
odd central control that never seems to work right. Sometime the hands
will just starting spinning around aimlessly. We don't even use those
clocks, we have battery powered clocks that we use. I just use my
wristwatch that I set to http://www.time.gov/
Maybe those same sort of clocks were in the Pentagon?

Oh come on now Bob.

Anyone familiar with the US military knows what a stickler they are for being on time. Both of those clocks were knocked off the wall and broken at the same point in time. They agree within seconds. If you look closely at one of them you will see the broken glass.

It doesn't take an advanced degree to draw the only possible conclusion. The official timeline is wrong. The question is: Why?

That's what I will answer --- soon!

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Oh come on now Bob.

Anyone familiar with the US military knows what a stickler they are for being on time. Both of those clocks were knocked off the wall and broken at the same point in time. They agree within seconds. If you look closely at one of them you will see the broken glass.

As far as the two clocks showing the exact same time, all that could
mean is they were both controlled by the same (inaccurate) controller.
We are sticklers for time where I work too. Things have to start
on the hour and end on the hour, each hour, all day. That's why we put
up the battery powered clock and have a regular schedule for changing
the batteries to make sure the clocks have fresh batteries.

[Bronco Bob]

Understand, I'm not saying you might not be right. All I'm doing is trying to
provide alternative explanations. Playing Devil's Advocate. Giving you a
shave with Occam's Razor.

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Oh come on now Bob.

Anyone familiar with the US military knows what a stickler they are for being on time. Both of those clocks were knocked off the wall and broken at the same point in time. They agree within seconds. If you look closely at one of them you will see the broken glass.

It doesn't take an advanced degree to draw the only possible conclusion. The official timeline is wrong. The question is: Why?

That's what I will answer --- soon!

Actually the clocks are f'ed all over the pentagon and other military installations. The clock on my computer is 5 minutes slower the time on my cell phone, which 4 minutes behind my VOIP phone, which is a minute ahead of the clock on the wall . IT BECAUSE HUMAN SET THE DARN THINGS. Please go find a new hobby, like tracking the migration of ducks.

[orangeatheist]

When you post your explanation, be sure to include:

1.) Where the clocks were getting their time. Be sure to uncover if there was some sort of centralized network time server or something similar involved. If there was a centralized time source, please provide the time this source was set to and if that source ever drifted and then self-corrected (as my own PC does at work; or as the clocks in my schools used to do). If they were manually set, please account for the near identical time in two clocks set by hand.

2.) What did the other clocks at the Pentagon read?

3.) Where did the commission report get its information to pinpoint the official time it assigns.

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by orangeatheist

When you post your explanation, be sure to include:

1.) Where the clocks were getting their time. Be sure to uncover if there was some sort of centralized network time server or something similar involved. If there was a centralized time source, please provide the time this source was set to and if that source ever drifted and then self-corrected (as my own PC does at work; or as the clocks in my schools used to do). If they were manually set, please account for the near identical time in two clocks set by hand.

2.) What did the other clocks at the Pentagon read?

3.) Where did the commission report get its information to pinpoint the official time it assigns.

He also needs to check and ensure that some ET wasn't ****ing around with the space time continuum.

[W*GS]

My father-in-law's ex-neighbor's brother used to work for NASA, and he had proof that the moon landings were faked. It all started with differences in the readings of the O2 concentration in the Apollo capsule "accident" that killed three astronauts.

Interested, gaffney?

(I'm just curious as to the inverted pyramid of proof that gaffney will try to build that starts with an alleged 5-minute "discrepancy" in the time that Flight 77 struck the Pentagon and ends with 9/11 being an inside job. Ought to be as "interesting" as the rest of his whackitude...)

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by W*GS

My father-in-law's ex-neighbor's brother used to work for NASA, and he had proof that the moon landings were faked. It all started with differences in the readings of the O2 concentration in the Apollo capsule "accident" that killed three astronauts.

Interested, gaffney?

(I'm just curious as to the inverted pyramid of proof that gaffney will try to build that starts with an alleged 5-minute "discrepancy" in the time that Flight 77 struck the Pentagon and ends with 9/11 being an inside job. Ought to be as "interesting" as the rest of his whackitude...)

Actually I have ex cousin that knew someone that was Arctic explorer that that had proof that the no iceberg was broke away for the ice self the month the Titanic suck. It was completely faked for Hollywood.

[REB]

Honestly dude. Seek professional help.

Oh btw, Elvis is still alive! He lives in my basement

[elsid13]

interesting question, Who would rather have living in your basement - Fat Elvis or Bobo

[REB]

Fat Elvis. At least he would just be passed out most of the time. Bobo would probably make quite a mess fapping to barnyard porn.

[Spider]

Fat Elvis .........cost me a shítload to feed , but he still could sing up to the end ........ if you believed he did die ......personally I think Elvis is alive and works at a Wal Mart in Kalamazoo Mi.

[mhgaffney]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

Fat Elvis .........cost me a shítload to feed , but he still could sing up to the end ........ if you believed he did die ......personally I think Elvis is alive and works at a Wal Mart in Kalamazoo Mi.

So, it slips out...

Spider's been truckin' for Wal Mart all along.

I knew it.

[BABronco]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

So, it slips out...

Spider's been truckin' for Wal Mart all along.

I knew it.

So, its obvious. Somebody here belongs in a loony bin. Anybody wanna take any guesses? I'll give you guys a hint okay? Ready? The name starts with a M ends with a y and has a letters hgaffne in the middle. Anybody know?

[Spider]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

So, it slips out...

Spider's been truckin' for Wal Mart all along.

I knew it.

to the one person that makes Norman bates look sane ....... you dont see trucks like this pulling for WALMART http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.p...ine=1168368648

[mhgaffney]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

to the one person that makes Norman bates look sane ....... you dont see trucks like this pulling for WALMART http://www.orangemane.com/BB/image.p...ine=1168368648

Wassa matter?

You can't take a joke?

You have to get down on the same mean and nasty level with all the other jerks on this thread?

Loosen up. And lift yourself up.

You will thank me -- one day -- for what I've been doing on this board.

Don't you understand that it's the reactionary bastards, retro thinkers and knee jerks on this board who are nuts -- not me. The problem is their constipated world view. If we had time for a less provocative approach I would follow that.

But time is very short. A few weeks ago the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists moved the doomsday clock up to 5 til midnight. That about says it all.

The only chance to turn the ship of state around at this very late hour is to shove reality into the faces of these clowns. And everyone else who thinks like them.

Who knows? Maybe they'll smell the roses...

[Garcia Bronco]

wonder twin powers activate.....form of a mop....and a lawnmower.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

But time is very short. A few weeks ago the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists moved the doomsday clock up to 5 til midnight. That about says it all.

The only chance to turn the ship of state around at this very late hour is to shove reality into the faces of these clowns. And everyone else who thinks like them.

Who knows? Maybe they'll smell the roses...

Were you aware Russia has reversed the former Soviet Union's position of no first use of nuclear weapons? The official Soviet policy, which was set in the 1970s and confirmed in 1982, allowed for the use of nuclear weapons only in response to a nuclear attack.

The Russian Federation regards nuclear weapons as a means of deterrence of an aggression, of ensuring the military security of the Russian Federation and its allies, and of maintaining international stability and peace.

The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction against itself or its allies and also in response to large-scale aggression involving conventional weapons in situations that are critical for the national security of the Russian Federation and its allies.

The Russian Federation will not use nuclear weapons against member states of the Treaty on the Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons that do not possess nuclear weapons except in the case of an invasion or any other attack against the Russian Federation, its territory, its armed forces or other troops, its allies, or a state toward which it has obligations with respect to security, unless that attack is conducted or supported by such a non-nuclear-weapons state together with a nuclear-weapons state or under alliance obligations with a nuclear-weapons state.

http://www.nti.org/db/nisprofs/over/doctrine.htm

[alkemical]

Gee, it seems we are trend setters once again.

[mhgaffney]

Yes, bob, but Clavicula has it right. The Ruskis are merely responding to what the Bush adminitation has done.

If you read my article WILL AMERICA FACE THE TRUTH ABOUT 911? then you should know that the present Bush policy is to control outer space, which is regarded as the ultimate high ground. Weaponization of space is seen as the way to control what happens on planet earth.

The rest of the world sees it differently. The whole world (with China and Russia in the lead) has been urging Washington since 1999 to ban all weapons from space -- but the USA has refused.

Bush unilaterally pulled out of the ABM Treaty in I think 2002 and ever since the US have been pursuing star wars. We are talking space based lasers and particle beam werapons. It's madness -- but we are going there.

Bush has also been pursuing a US first strike nuclear capability.

US nuclear policy today is NOT deterrence. That was cold war stuff. Our current policy is to actually threaten first use of nukes to dominate the planet. Sad to say, it's the truth.

Russia and China feel compelled to respond simply to protect their deterrent.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

The rest of the world sees it differently. The whole world (with China and Russia in the lead) has been urging Washington since 1999 to ban all weapons from space -- but the USA has refused.

That was why China blew up their old weather satellite, to show they could
blind the US in a war. Most of the cruise missiles the US has depend on
GPS to reach their target. China knocks out the US's GPS satellites
and the cruise missiles are worthless, as well as many other weapons
systems the US depends on.

Bush unilaterally pulled out of the ABM Treaty in I think 2002 and ever since the US have been pursuing star wars. We are talking space based lasers and particle beam werapons. It's madness -- but we are going there.

This is why Russia has targeted Poland with their latest, most sophisticated
nuclear missiles that have manuverable warheads. By the way, ever
wonder why the US is installing ABM systems in Poland the defend against
Iranian missiles? When it would make more sense to install them in Turkey.

Bush has also been pursuing a US first strike nuclear capability.

US nuclear policy today is NOT deterrence. That was cold war stuff. Our current policy is to actually threaten first use of nukes to dominate the planet. Sad to say, it's the truth.

Russia and China feel compelled to respond simply to protect their deterrent.

Which is what is so dangerous about attacking Iran, especially with
any kind of nuclear weapons, even nuclear bunker busters.

[Bronco Bob]

More on Russia's Star Wars defeating nuclear ICBMs.

The Topol-M is reputed to have the highest accuracy of any Russian ICBM. One source indicates that its "maximum deviation" ("predelnoye otkloneniye"), defined as the radius in which over 99% of all warheads will impact and estimated to be 2.3 times larger than the missile's Circular Error Probable, is less than 500 meters.

The missile's design is believed to incorporate many features improving its ABM defense penetration ability, and to possess built-in potential for further upgrades in this area. According to some estimates, it carries more decoys and penetration aids than the 10-warhead Peacekeeper (MX) missile and is equipped with a hardened warhead invulnerable to all but direct hits by ABM interceptors. The warhead may also have independent maneuvering and precision-guidance capability. The seventh Topol-M test launch, conducted on 3 June 1999, featured a "lateral antimissile maneuver", with the warhead reportedly being guided to its destination by a Glonass-based "Terminator" satellite navigation system. Finally, thanks to its powerful first-stage boosters, the Topol-M has a short-duration boost phase (shorter by a factor of 4.5 than boost phases of older ICBMs such as the SS-18, which has a five-minute boost phase), which reduces its vulnerability to boost-phase intercept weapons. The missile's greater acceleration also allows it to assume a flatter trajectory, further reducing vulnerability to space-based weapons. The Topol-M also features a high degree of survivability against attack while on the ground. The silo-based version has been reported to be able to withstand a direct nuclear warhead hit on its silo, and the missile itself is hardened against EMP.

Sounds like the Russians aren't planning on getting caught with their pants down if push comes to shove.

[cbs1177]

I think it is weird that all advertisement with watches in it shows exactly 10:10. Also i went to an Elm school that each room had a different time on the clocks. Also in my house i have a blinking vcr and microwave with blinking 12:00. some clocks I don't even bother to set for DSL.