ACLU comes to the aid of a Preacher .......Gasp

[Spider]

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...n/16772151.htm
Ex-pastor defends acts
His attorney argues that the minister had a right to solicit sex from an undercover policeman.
The Associated Press

OKLAHOMA CITY | The attorney for a former Baptist church leader who had spoken out against homosexuality said Thursday that the minister has a constitutional right to solicit sex from an undercover policeman.

The Rev. Lonnie W. Latham had supported a resolution calling on gays and lesbians to reject their “sinful, destructive lifestyle” before his Jan. 3, 2006, arrest outside the Habana Inn in Oklahoma City.

Authorities allege that Latham asked the undercover policeman to come up to his hotel for oral sex.

Latham’s attorney, Mack Martin, filed a motion to have the misdemeanor lewdness charge thrown out, saying the Supreme Court ruled in the 2003 decision Lawrence v. Texas that it was not illegal for consenting adults to engage in private homosexual acts.

“Now, my client’s being prosecuted basically for having offered to engage in such an act, which basically makes it a crime to ask someone to do something that’s legal,” Martin said.

Both sides agree that there was no offer of money, but prosecutor Scott Rowland said there is a “legitimate governmental interest” in regulating offers of acts of lewdness.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Oklahoma has filed a brief alleging that Latham’s arrest also violated his right to free speech.

Before his arrest, Latham had spoken against same-sex marriage.

He has since resigned as pastor of the South Tulsa Baptist Church and stepped down from the executive committee of the Southern Baptist Convention, where he was one of four members from Oklahoma.

[BABronco]

Thats close to home and I havent heard this one yet.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by BABronco

Thats close to home and I havent heard this one yet.

normally I would use this to rail against Christians , throw out a few insults , but for some silly reason that causes Christians to get defensive and I ma the bad guy
the only reason I posted this was to show that not only does the ACLU talk the talk , they walk the walk

[El Minion]

I better watch what I say next time I'm at a bar chatting up a cute girl.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by El Minion

I better watch what I say next time I'm at a bar chatting up a cute girl.

just make sure she is a girl

[Dudeskey]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

normally I would use this to rail against Christians , throw out a few insults , but for some silly reason that causes Christians to get defensive and I ma the bad guy
the only reason I posted this was to show that not only does the ACLU talk the talk , they walk the walk

Well yeah, they're sticking up also for the rednecks that like putting fake cow balls on their pickup trucks too...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/...le_vulgarity_4

ANNAPOLIS, Md. - Fake bull testicles and other anatomically explicit vehicle decorations would be banned from Maryland roads under a bill pending in the state legislature.

The measure was filed in the General Assembly Monday by Delegate LeRoy E. Myers Jr., R-Washingon, who says children shouldn't be exposed to giant plastic gonads dangling from pickup truck trailer hitches. The bill also would ban depictions of naked human breasts, buttocks or genitals, with offenses punishable by fines of up to $500.

"It's time to take a stand," Myers told The (Hagerstown) Herald-Mail.

The American Civil Liberties Union objected to Myers' bill.

"The legislation is overly broad, and would probably make it illegal to have a sticker on your car of the Venus de Milo from an art museum," ACLU of Maryland spokeswoman Meredith Curtis wrote in an e-mail.

Pamela Campbell whose Bullhead City, Ariz., business sells fake bull testicles, suggested that the swinging decorations can prompt healthy discussions about anatomy and reproduction.

"Do we have to neuter all dogs that walk by us?" she asked. "Where does it stop?"

Last week, Arizona's legislature rejected a measure that would have banned vehicle splash guards bearing racist terms or silhouettes of naked women.

Just figured this would be relevant

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Urinal_Cake

Well yeah, they're sticking up also for the rednecks that like putting fake cow balls on their pickup trucks too...


Just figured this would be relevant

oh man that is just so wrong on so many levels ............. But damn funny

[spdirty]

Originally Posted by Urinal_Cake

Well yeah, they're sticking up also for the rednecks that like putting fake cow balls on their pickup trucks too...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/...le_vulgarity_4


Just figured this would be relevant

thats stupid. I have bull balls and love em. Guess this isone of those 1% of the times the ACLU is right. Still believe they are evil.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by spdirty

thats stupid. I have bull balls and love em. Guess this isone of those 1% of the times the ACLU is right. Still believe they are evil.

Yep, nothing more evil than Americans trying to protect the rights of other
Americans as guaranteed by the United States Constitution by taking their
cases to the body set up to determine Constitutional rights, the United
States Supreme Court. Let's just scrap the Constitution, it's the source
of all evil when you really get down to it, and let King George W and his
minions decide what it best for us. After all, King George W has never been
wrong yet, has he?

[spdirty]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Yep, nothing more evil than Americans trying to protect the rights of other
Americans as guaranteed by the United States Constitution by taking their
cases to the body set up to determine Constitutional rights, the United
States Supreme Court. Let's just scrap the Constitution, it's the source
of all evil when you really get down to it, and let King George W and his
minions decide what it best for us. After all, King George W has never been
wrong yet, has he?

Ive said time and again the Bush is a disaster. Get a f'in clue.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by spdirty

Ive said time and again the Bush is a disaster. Get a f'in clue.

Why, Bush once said the Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper?
The piece of paper the evil ACLU thinks is important enough to defend.

[spdirty]

Originally Posted by Bronco Bob

Why, Bush once said the Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper?
The piece of paper the evil ACLU thinks is important enough to defend.

no, they 'defend' some of it. You want an organization that defends the whole constitution try the aclj.

I feel like total shlt right now so maybe tomorrow Ill bring up some of the crap they've pulled..

[Spider]

Originally Posted by spdirty

no, they 'defend' some of it. You want an organization that defends the whole constitution try the aclj.

I feel like total shlt right now so maybe tomorrow Ill bring up some of the crap they've pulled..

Just some examples
Here is a good one http://www.aclu.org/religion/discrim...s20040603.html
ACLU defended a Preacher in Wis..... for his right to preach in public .......
ACLU defended Rush Limbaugh over Medical records ......
O'Reilly is dead wrong about the ACLU ..........But then O'Reilly is dead wrong about alot of things .......
the ACLU has done more to protect Religion , then destroy it .........

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by spdirty

thats stupid. I have bull balls and love em. Guess this isone of those 1% of the times the ACLU is right. Still believe they are evil.

Spider was talking about the "fake ones".

[Spider]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

Spider was talking about the "fake ones".

[Hogan11]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

Just some examples
Here is a good one http://www.aclu.org/religion/discrim...s20040603.html
ACLU defended a Preacher in Wis..... for his right to preach in public .......
ACLU defended Rush Limbaugh over Medical records ......
O'Reilly is dead wrong about the ACLU ..........But then O'Reilly is dead wrong about alot of things .......
the ACLU has done more to protect Religion , then destroy it .........

Yeah well, most people didn't even know what the ACLU was until George The First dragged them through the mud during his 1988 campaign....I find it laughable that that impression still exists some twenty years later.

[BroncoBuff]

spdirty, I've been a "card-carrying member" since 1993, and I can tell you - positively - that the ACLU defends anyone with a Constitutionally protected issue - period. ANY free speech, ANY free religion, etc....




Perhaps you've never taken the "acid test" of American citizenship: "Freedom of speech means that no matter how violently I disagee with what you say - no matter how much your opinion roils my blood - I would defend to the death your right to say it."

"Death" may be over the top by today's standards, but think about that.

I mean really, really think about that.


And then examine why it is you're so upset about the ACLU and our speech case defenses.