General Baseball Thread 2007 - Page 54 - The Orange Mane

24champ · 06-14-2007, 06:48 PM

Just got this in my email about the latest Dodger news-

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DODGERS DISMISS MURRAY
Mueller to serve as Interim Hitting Coach

LOS ANGELES – The Dodgers announced today that they have dismissed Hitting Coach Eddie Murray and have named Bill Mueller as Interim Hitting Coach, according to Dodger Manager Grady Little.

“Change is never easy but sometimes it is necessary and we feel that this is the best thing right now to help the team win,” said Little. “Our offense hasn’t lived up to our expectations and no one person is responsible for the results we’ve had this season. I have the utmost respect for Eddie Murray as a person and as a professional and I wish him nothing but the best.”

Mueller retired at the end of the 2006 season with a lifetime batting average of .291 in 11 seasons with the Giants, Cubs, Red Sox and Dodgers. In 2003, he won the American League batting title and Silver Slugger Award and in 2004, he was a key member of the World Champion Boston Red Sox. Upon announcing his retirement, Mueller was named Special Assistant to General Manager Ned Colletti this offseason.

“Bill Mueller will serve as a very solid bridge as we look for our next hitting coach,” said Colletti. “He already has a great reputation within the clubhouse and he has a very deep knowledge of our team and the rest of the league.”

Sad to see Murray be canned, but I hope Mueller can improve our hitting techniques.

MechanicalBull · 06-14-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Both Lackey and Sabathia are having great seasons, but they both give up too many hits. My money is on either Haren of Beckett for the Cy.

I think you can also throw in Verlander right now. He is 7-2 with a 2.79 era

Paladin · 06-14-2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeShadow

we gotta let yall have one :p

How about two?

Paladin · 06-14-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MechanicalBull

Is she a starting pitcher? what position does she play?

Missionary.

Taco John · 06-14-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Johan will have something to say about all this before it's over.

That 3.24 is going to have to come down an awful lot.

24champ · 06-14-2007, 06:58 PM

Speaking of pitchers...

I love BP

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Yet, in an incident replayed several times on television, Penny verbally confronted Green.

After he struck out Green to end the third inning, Penny walked off the mound — not toward the dugout, but toward home plate. The two men exchanged words, without contact.

After the game, Penny said Green had tipped the Mets' hitters off to pitch locations in the first inning, when Green was on second base.

"When you're doing that and you have a reputation for doing that, people will be watching you," Penny said.

Green acknowledged that reputation but denied he was tipping the Mets' hitters in this case.

"People assume every time I'm on second base, I'm relaying signs," the former Dodger said. "I've been wrongly accused of that more times than I've been rightly accused."

Green called that practice "part of the game" and said the Dodgers had engaged in it Tuesday. When they did, he said, Aaron Heilman simply stepped off the mound, and the Mets changed signs.

"That's the right way to handle it," Green said. "To accuse a guy is the wrong way to handle it, especially when it wasn't taking place."

Penny said he did not consider brushing Green back during that at-bat rather than waiting for a verbal confrontation afterward.

"I didn't really have a chance," Penny said. "I had a guy in scoring position and a better hitter [Carlos Beltran] on deck. It would have been nice to have a six-run lead right there."

Clockwork Orange · 06-14-2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

That 3.24 is going to have to come down an awful lot.

I wouldn't rule it out.

MechanicalBull · 06-14-2007, 07:22 PM

I don't see Santana winning the Cy Young this year but with his stuff and his history I wouldn't put anything past him. I hope it doesn't happen but after next year he is a FA and you know the Yanks are going to throw so much cash his way especially with the age of Clemens, Mussina and Pettite.

OrangeShadow · 06-14-2007, 08:14 PM

you had to open your big mouth pats

SpringStein · 06-14-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

How about two?

Up 6-0 after 3 1/2. Could happen. Maybe.

elsid13 · 06-14-2007, 08:35 PM

Well Beckett is stinking the place up tonight. Good hitting by the rockies, and piss poor hitting by Sox isn't helping Beckett cause tonight.

SpringStein · 06-14-2007, 10:27 PM

With the W, the Rocks pull back to .500. Gotta say I didn't expect that just 3 weeks ago.

Paladin · 06-14-2007, 10:38 PM

How 'bout them Rockies?

Good series for them. Could easily have been a sweep if Spilly had gotten a hit with the bases loaded in the first game.....

Tampa next. With luck and good pitching, maybe get a game up......

Clockwork Orange · 06-14-2007, 10:50 PM

Nice to see the Rockies get back to .500 for the first time in a long time. They're now 15-6 in their last 21 ballgames.

TheChamp24 · 06-15-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Nice to see the Rockies get back to .500 for the first time in a long time. They're now 15-6 in their last 21 ballgames.

Whats even more amazing IMO is the fact in the past 7 series, the Rockies are 6-0-1 in those. Only one they didn't win was the Cardinals series in which they tied 2 games a piece.
Also, they have won 4 straight road series(franchise record). This run is awesome for them.
Hitting has gotten way better, pitching solid. Bullpen has REALLY stepped it up. Fielding continues to be outstanding.

DomCasual · 06-15-2007, 12:33 AM

I have to admit that I'm pretty shocked. I honestly thought they were headed into a stretch that would end in Hurdle getting fired - extension be damned. There seemed to be some momentum for change, including lots of really negative press about the direction of the franchise.

So, I guess I'm cautiously optimistic now. There seem to be really positive things going on with this club. I think a lot of us thought they were capable of playing like this, going into the season. This next series is important - they need to show now that they can win series they are supposed to win.

Requiem · 06-15-2007, 04:26 AM

Ugh, the Mariners game was painful to watch. Morrow has been looking sharpe since being our top choice last year and today things just didn't go our way. I like the relief with him, O'Flaherty and J.J is solid this year as a closer, but we desperately needed starting pitching. Felix needs to stay healthy, Batista has been a pleasant surprise and Washburn is well, Washburn - but Weaver is terrible.

Thank God we got real potential in Amonte. I'm not sure if he's signed yet, but hopefully he does, comes through the minors and can be ready in a year or two.

Betancourt needs to stop having errors, but he's hitting solid right now. Lopez is doing okay as well.

Sexson and Beltre, the big paid guys are stinking it up. Sexson is streaky, and he's not even hitting .200 right now. Pathetic. Beltre with his injuries are concerning. I'd expect a deal including Beltre for a SP to possibly go down, anyways that was what is rumored.

Hopefully this Mangini kid can go through the minors with ease and be able to take up third base. I have a feeling Beltre is gone at somepoint and Willie isn't going to cut it.

Happy with the outfielders we selected. With the age in our outfield, and Ichiro possibly being gonzo at the end of the year, we'll need a replacement. Denny Almonte could be a future replacement to Ibanez. He can play anywhere in the OF, I believe. Haven't heard much on the others, will research though.

Call up Adam Jones already, the kid is on fire.

Wladimir Balentien could be ready in a year, and he'd be better than Ellison.

Go M's.

WABronco · 06-15-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

Sexson and Beltre, the big paid guys are stinking it up. Sexson is streaky, and he's not even hitting .200 right now. Pathetic. Beltre with his injuries are concerning. I'd expect a deal including Beltre for a SP to possibly go down, anyways that was what is rumored.

That would suck. We don't really have any good corner INF in AA or AAA, and why deal a sweet-fielding, slugging 3b. He's never gonna hit 40+ again, but he'll get to around 25-30 and give you gold glove defense. He's the 2nd or 3rd best 3b in the AL...

At least for Sexson we've got some guys to fill the void.

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Call up Adam Jones already, the kid is on fire.

Where are we gonna put him, though? There'd have to be a major change made to a roster that's currently winning. I like Jones over half the lineup, but it is what it is.

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Wladimir Balentien could be ready in a year, and he'd be better than Ellison.

If anyone gets dealt, I bet it's Balentien. He's probably ready for the bigs right now, but again, where does he fit?

ColoradoBuff · 06-15-2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeShadow

you had to open your big mouth pats

How 'bout them Rockies!!!!

Requiem · 06-15-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WABronco

That would suck. We don't really have any good corner INF in AA or AAA, and why deal a sweet-fielding, slugging 3b. He's never gonna hit 40+ again, but he'll get to around 25-30 and give you gold glove defense. He's the 2nd or 3rd best 3b in the AL...

At least for Sexson we've got some guys to fill the void.

Mangini was drafted for a reason. He's a solid hitter and a sound defender. It'll probably be a year or so before he gets into the bigs, but being an established hitter in college should make his transition into AA or AAA (wherever he'd go) easier and he should be able to move through the minors quickly. (Which is what I liked about a lot of the pitchers we took, and some of our other guys, like the OF from Oklahoma - experience will help them get through quicker, I'd hope.)

I don't think Beltre is that good, but that's just me. Maybe it's because I was excited at the prospects of a top 3B in baseball (he's not) after his last year with LAD, but he hasn't even come close to that kind of year, although that's an MVP caliber year. Last season was pretty solid, but I'm just stating this is a rumor I heard. I'm not sure how long he's going to be out, I find it's amazing we can do this well with half the guys we're playing.

You're right, we don't have any good corner infielders in AAA/AA. This is just what I've seen rumored some places.

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Where are we gonna put him, though? There'd have to be a major change made to a roster that's currently winning. I like Jones over half the lineup, but it is what it is.

Move Ibanez to DH, (Vidro, eh? Waste of 7.5 million) and put Jones in left. Ibanez is a far better hitter than Vidro, and putting Jones in left would put some speed out there. Ibanez (besides the terrible misplant and throw) could have taken a lot better angles in the series against the Cubs. He seems to be the liability in the outfield.

Maybe Vidro isn't as bad as I think, maybe I'm just spoiled from Edgar. Probably. MFKIN BEAST.

It's going to be a scary thought having all 35+ year old lineman, having Ichiro leave and not bringing up a guy to get some experience.

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If anyone gets dealt, I bet it's Balentien. He's probably ready for the bigs right now, but again, where does he fit?

Not as good as Jones, but close. With drafting quite a few OF, (probably one or two of which could pan out) he could be made expendable. However, it'd be nice to keep him, due to Ichiro possibly leaving and the age of our outfielders. At least we'll have speed at the top of our line-up and in the field with these OF guys.

Damn, it feels good to be talking baseball again. I just wish I got to see more Mariners games. I have to count on them playing the Cubs, Braves or Twins - and the occasional ESPN game if they play Boston or New York.

I expect us to make a move for pitching. We could use another quality starter, someone who could be a #2, hopefully.

SpringStein · 06-15-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawk's Boys

How 'bout them Rockies!!!!

Just bought 6 tickets for tomorrow night's game. Pretty good online deal - $10 per person for outfield "box" seats (section 106) and a bag of peanuts. Those seats are typically $30 a piece.

BTW - You can only order 2 tickets at a time - but I got 4 tickets together and 2 in the row below.

24champ · 06-15-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SpringStein

Just bought 6 tickets for tomorrow night's game. Pretty good online deal - $10 per person for outfield "box" seats (section 106) and a bag of peanuts. Those seats are typically $30 a piece.

BTW - You can only order 2 tickets at a time - but I got 4 tickets together and 2 in the row below.

Yeah I checked the prices for when the Yankees come into town...and talk about a ripoff.

SpringStein · 06-15-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 24champbailey

Yeah I checked the prices for when the Yankees come into town...and talk about a ripoff.

Yankee fans can afford it.

Master___Pain · 06-15-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SpringStein

Just bought 6 tickets for tomorrow night's game. Pretty good online deal - $10 per person for outfield "box" seats (section 106) and a bag of peanuts. Those seats are typically $30 a piece.

BTW - You can only order 2 tickets at a time - but I got 4 tickets together and 2 in the row below.

Let me see if I understand this. The rockies, who can't sell out on their own are limiting the number of tickets someone can buy at one time? I guess if this is some sort of special ticket pricing, which it appears to be then it makes a little sense, and keeps the scalpers from gobbling them up. If I'm the rockies, I don't care who ends up with the tickets, just sell as many as possible with the D-Rays coming in.

RhymesayersDU · 06-15-2007, 04:27 PM

So... We're in the year 2007, right? This isn't some twilight zone, is it?

The Rockies went into Fenway and won a series? Crazy.

But on the bright side, at least Denver teams are consistent. The Nuggets lost to teams like the Knicks and Grizzlies at home, only to get up for big games and beat some of the top teams. Rockies dropped a series to the Royals at home, but go into Fenway and beat one of the best teams in baseball.

Something in the water downtown or something!

I'd ad the Broncos not being able to beat the 49ers at home, but Cutler gets a pass.

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06-14-2007, 07:22 PM	#1333
MechanicalBull Interesting Times Ahead Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,825	I don't see Santana winning the Cy Young this year but with his stuff and his history I wouldn't put anything past him. I hope it doesn't happen but after next year he is a FA and you know the Yanks are going to throw so much cash his way especially with the age of Clemens, Mussina and Pettite.

06-14-2007, 08:14 PM	#1334
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	you had to open your big mouth pats

06-14-2007, 08:35 PM	#1336
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,080	Well Beckett is stinking the place up tonight. Good hitting by the rockies, and piss poor hitting by Sox isn't helping Beckett cause tonight.

06-14-2007, 10:27 PM	#1337
SpringStein Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Monument, CO Posts: 2,733	With the W, the Rocks pull back to .500. Gotta say I didn't expect that just 3 weeks ago.

06-14-2007, 10:38 PM	#1338
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,149	How 'bout them Rockies? Good series for them. Could easily have been a sweep if Spilly had gotten a hit with the bases loaded in the first game..... Tampa next. With luck and good pitching, maybe get a game up......

06-14-2007, 10:50 PM	#1339
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Nice to see the Rockies get back to .500 for the first time in a long time. They're now 15-6 in their last 21 ballgames.

06-15-2007, 12:33 AM	#1341
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,167 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	I have to admit that I'm pretty shocked. I honestly thought they were headed into a stretch that would end in Hurdle getting fired - extension be damned. There seemed to be some momentum for change, including lots of really negative press about the direction of the franchise. So, I guess I'm cautiously optimistic now. There seem to be really positive things going on with this club. I think a lot of us thought they were capable of playing like this, going into the season. This next series is important - they need to show now that they can win series they are supposed to win.

06-15-2007, 04:26 AM	#1342
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,516 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Ugh, the Mariners game was painful to watch. Morrow has been looking sharpe since being our top choice last year and today things just didn't go our way. I like the relief with him, O'Flaherty and J.J is solid this year as a closer, but we desperately needed starting pitching. Felix needs to stay healthy, Batista has been a pleasant surprise and Washburn is well, Washburn - but Weaver is terrible. Thank God we got real potential in Amonte. I'm not sure if he's signed yet, but hopefully he does, comes through the minors and can be ready in a year or two. Betancourt needs to stop having errors, but he's hitting solid right now. Lopez is doing okay as well. Sexson and Beltre, the big paid guys are stinking it up. Sexson is streaky, and he's not even hitting .200 right now. Pathetic. Beltre with his injuries are concerning. I'd expect a deal including Beltre for a SP to possibly go down, anyways that was what is rumored. Hopefully this Mangini kid can go through the minors with ease and be able to take up third base. I have a feeling Beltre is gone at somepoint and Willie isn't going to cut it. Happy with the outfielders we selected. With the age in our outfield, and Ichiro possibly being gonzo at the end of the year, we'll need a replacement. Denny Almonte could be a future replacement to Ibanez. He can play anywhere in the OF, I believe. Haven't heard much on the others, will research though. Call up Adam Jones already, the kid is on fire. Wladimir Balentien could be ready in a year, and he'd be better than Ellison. Go M's.

06-15-2007, 04:27 PM	#1350
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	So... We're in the year 2007, right? This isn't some twilight zone, is it? The Rockies went into Fenway and won a series? Crazy. But on the bright side, at least Denver teams are consistent. The Nuggets lost to teams like the Knicks and Grizzlies at home, only to get up for big games and beat some of the top teams. Rockies dropped a series to the Royals at home, but go into Fenway and beat one of the best teams in baseball. Something in the water downtown or something! I'd ad the Broncos not being able to beat the 49ers at home, but Cutler gets a pass.