Carllisle and Myers to test market? - The Orange Mane

gunns · 02-07-2007, 01:01 PM

Broncos | Carlisle likely to test market
Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:14:37 -0800

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos will likely allow pending free agent OG Cooper Carlisle to test the market.

Broncos | Myers likely to test market
Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:11:30 -0800

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos will likely allow pending free agent DT Michael Myers to test the market.

KipCorrington25 · 02-07-2007, 01:03 PM

The CFL and The Arena League might be excited about these two hitting the market.

Taco John · 02-07-2007, 01:05 PM

See Ya!

Hercules Rockefeller · 02-07-2007, 01:06 PM

Guess that means they'll be going after a couple DT with Warren and Veal all that's left.

Dudeskey · 02-07-2007, 01:16 PM

Hmm, replacing them shouldn't be too difficult. They were serviceable at best.

cutthemdown · 02-07-2007, 01:19 PM

Didn't we just grab Carlisle of the street? He won't get much action. Too small for the taste of most NFL oline coaches and not that talented. Meyers is a journeyman dt that wont get much coin, or be missed much if he goes. I can't really remember one play that has stood out in my mind from him.

Dedhed · 02-07-2007, 01:20 PM

I like Myers. Carlisle can walk.

footstepsfrom#27 · 02-07-2007, 01:28 PM

Couple of mere cogs but they're starters...what does this mean for comp picks if they leave?

BroncoInferno · 02-07-2007, 01:32 PM

I like Myers. He's been underrated during his time here. With that said, I believe he's 30 or 31. Plus, we need to put a difference maker somewhere on the line, and while he's solid, a difference maker he's not.

cutthemdown · 02-07-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Couple of mere cogs but they're starters...what does this mean for comp picks if they leave?

as long as we didn't sign 2 guys to offset it we could possibly get a comp pick or 2. It all has to do with the ratio of how many FA you lost compared to how many you signed.

bpc · 02-07-2007, 01:42 PM

I don't mind having Myers back, but he is a #3 DT at best in a rotation. I was watching Warren play with bad toes all year and Myers getting blown off the ball regularly.

Cooper is merely adequate as well. I would rather see another Kuper starting in his place.

Both of these guys could easily be replaced by a fraction of the cost. If Myers leaves at least we will be forced to find somebody new to plug into his spot.

Denver724 · 02-07-2007, 01:42 PM

Carlisle was a 4th round draft pick by the Broncos a few years ago.

freak6 · 02-07-2007, 01:49 PM

Chris Kuper starting next year! Best draft EVER!

Starters from 06 draft class/ FA

Cutler, Scheffler, Javon Walker, Marshall, Kuper,

On the bubble, Mike Bell, Dumerville, Dixon

maven · 02-07-2007, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunns

Broncos | Carlisle likely to test market
Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:14:37 -0800

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos will likely allow pending free agent OG Cooper Carlisle to test the market.

Broncos | Myers likely to test market
Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:11:30 -0800

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos will likely allow pending free agent DT Michael Myers to test the market.

Great news! Go away!

bendog · 02-07-2007, 01:55 PM

They are UFAs, correct? I thought Den pretty routinely let guys check their values, if they wished to, and left the door open if the value was in line with what Den thought and could fit into the cap?

I'm not ok with Carlisle moving on. Myers is most likely ready to start, but RT is in dissaray.

I'm not sure they'd do it, or even should, but what would be the cap impact of cutting Foster? And, I'm still not sure that his regression isn't at least partly the coaching staff's fault for having him a 335lb road grader (with a lawnmower engine).

Florida_Bronco · 02-07-2007, 01:57 PM

I think this is a bad move. Myers is a good rotation guy who can play both DE and DT and a good character guy. Carlisle is one of the most underrated guards in the NFL and will probably get a good sized deal somewhere else.

Florida_Bronco · 02-07-2007, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bendog

They are UFAs, correct? I thought Den pretty routinely let guys check their values, if they wished to, and left the door open if the value was in line with what Den thought and could fit into the cap?

I'm not ok with Carlisle moving on. Myers is most likely ready to start, but RT is in dissaray.

I'm not sure they'd do it, or even should, but what would be the cap impact of cutting Foster? And, I'm still not sure that his regression isn't at least partly the coaching staff's fault for having him a 335lb road grader (with a lawnmower engine).

Cutting Foster would likely cost us money, he's dirt cheap anyways. I really think he needs to drop some weight and move over to LT.

BigPlayShay · 02-07-2007, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denver724

Carlisle was a 4th round draft pick by the Broncos a few years ago.

Yep, in 2000. That was the year Shanny thought it would be cool to draft guys that had the same first and last initial:

Kenoy Kennedy
Chris Cole
Jerry Johnson
Cooper Carlisle
Muneer Moore
Jarious Jackson

Florida_Bronco · 02-07-2007, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigPlayShay

Yep, in 2000. That was the year Shanny thought it would be cool to draft guys that had the same first and last initial:

Kenoy Kennedy
Chris Cole
Jerry Johnson
Cooper Carlisle
Muneer Moore
Jarious Jackson

I never even noticed that...

eddie mac · 02-07-2007, 02:01 PM

I realise most of us rate both these players as nothing more than average but the bottom line is both were starters and not because of injury. They were the 2nd best players at their respective positions on our roster. Let's hope they are not replaced by scrubs. BTW Kuper has proven nothing in this league yet so I'd hold up on automatically slotting him into the vacant guard spot. As we've witnessed so often on this team a training camp and pre-season whirlwind often peters out come cut down time.

Crushaholic · 02-07-2007, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freak6

Chris Kuper starting next year! Best draft EVER!

Starters from 06 draft class/ FA

Cutler, Scheffler, Javon Walker, Marshall, Kuper,

On the bubble, Mike Bell, Dumerville, Hixon

Dumervil was one of the few bright spots on the D-line. I see him as a starter next year, as well. I agree with your overall statement, though. Last year was a GREAT draft...

footstepsfrom#27 · 02-07-2007, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

Cutting Foster would likely cost us money, he's dirt cheap anyways. I really think he needs to drop some weight and move over to LT.

Let Georgina protect Jay's back? OK, let's just pencil him in for the IR right now then.

Paladin · 02-07-2007, 02:21 PM

Didn't Myers do what he was supposed to do in Coyer's scheme? I thought Carlisle did a pretty good job and someone pointed out n a thread a while back that a lot of yards were picked up behind Carlisle's blocks......

There are some options there, but Myers' potential leaving means there are maybe two Dlinemen needed. Slipping backwards.....

footstepsfrom#27 · 02-07-2007, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin

Didn't Myers do what he was supposed to do in Coyer's scheme? I thought Carlisle did a pretty good job and someone pointed out n a thread a while back that a lot of yards were picked up behind Carlisle's blocks......

There are some options there, but Myers' potential leaving means there are maybe two Dlinemen needed. Slipping backwards.....

Where is Dorsett Davis?

Drek · 02-07-2007, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bendog

I'm not ok with Carlisle moving on. Myers is most likely ready to start, but RT is in dissaray.

How is RT in disarray? Pears did a pretty good job at LT last year filling in for Lepsis and he's naturally an RT, I don't see any reason why he should be the odds on favorite over Foster and Meadows, both of whom will be back to provide depth.

I'd be a little worried going with Meyers and Kuper to replace Carlisle with no safety net, but Carlisle isn't exactly a stud anyhow, so trying some young blood might be just what our interior OL needs.

I'm fine with both of them leaving, Myers should be a rotational player, Carlisle is league average but its a lop sided average, much better run blocker than pass blocker. Letting them go opens the door for improved replacements.

02-07-2007, 01:01 PM	#1
gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,657 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	Carllisle and Myers to test market? Broncos \| Carlisle likely to test market Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:14:37 -0800 Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos will likely allow pending free agent OG Cooper Carlisle to test the market. Broncos \| Myers likely to test market Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:11:30 -0800 Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Denver Broncos will likely allow pending free agent DT Michael Myers to test the market.

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02-07-2007, 01:03 PM	#2
KipCorrington25 Free Safety Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Centennial Posts: 3,050	The CFL and The Arena League might be excited about these two hitting the market.

02-07-2007, 01:05 PM	#3
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	See Ya!

02-07-2007, 01:06 PM	#4
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Guess that means they'll be going after a couple DT with Warren and Veal all that's left.

02-07-2007, 01:16 PM	#5
Dudeskey Ring of Famer This space for rent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 4,314	Hmm, replacing them shouldn't be too difficult. They were serviceable at best.

02-07-2007, 01:19 PM	#6
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,459	Didn't we just grab Carlisle of the street? He won't get much action. Too small for the taste of most NFL oline coaches and not that talented. Meyers is a journeyman dt that wont get much coin, or be missed much if he goes. I can't really remember one play that has stood out in my mind from him.

02-07-2007, 01:20 PM	#7
Dedhed Ring of Famer Fare thee well Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 9,706 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	I like Myers. Carlisle can walk.

02-07-2007, 01:28 PM	#8
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	Couple of mere cogs but they're starters...what does this mean for comp picks if they leave?

02-07-2007, 01:32 PM	#9
BroncoInferno Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 12,999	I like Myers. He's been underrated during his time here. With that said, I believe he's 30 or 31. Plus, we need to put a difference maker somewhere on the line, and while he's solid, a difference maker he's not.

02-07-2007, 01:42 PM	#11
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,569 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I don't mind having Myers back, but he is a #3 DT at best in a rotation. I was watching Warren play with bad toes all year and Myers getting blown off the ball regularly. Cooper is merely adequate as well. I would rather see another Kuper starting in his place. Both of these guys could easily be replaced by a fraction of the cost. If Myers leaves at least we will be forced to find somebody new to plug into his spot.

02-07-2007, 01:42 PM	#12
Denver724 Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,517	Carlisle was a 4th round draft pick by the Broncos a few years ago.

02-07-2007, 01:55 PM	#15
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	They are UFAs, correct? I thought Den pretty routinely let guys check their values, if they wished to, and left the door open if the value was in line with what Den thought and could fit into the cap? I'm not ok with Carlisle moving on. Myers is most likely ready to start, but RT is in dissaray. I'm not sure they'd do it, or even should, but what would be the cap impact of cutting Foster? And, I'm still not sure that his regression isn't at least partly the coaching staff's fault for having him a 335lb road grader (with a lawnmower engine).

02-07-2007, 01:57 PM	#16
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	I think this is a bad move. Myers is a good rotation guy who can play both DE and DT and a good character guy. Carlisle is one of the most underrated guards in the NFL and will probably get a good sized deal somewhere else.

02-07-2007, 02:01 PM	#20
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	I realise most of us rate both these players as nothing more than average but the bottom line is both were starters and not because of injury. They were the 2nd best players at their respective positions on our roster. Let's hope they are not replaced by scrubs. BTW Kuper has proven nothing in this league yet so I'd hold up on automatically slotting him into the vacant guard spot. As we've witnessed so often on this team a training camp and pre-season whirlwind often peters out come cut down time.

02-07-2007, 02:21 PM	#23
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	Didn't Myers do what he was supposed to do in Coyer's scheme? I thought Carlisle did a pretty good job and someone pointed out n a thread a while back that a lot of yards were picked up behind Carlisle's blocks...... There are some options there, but Myers' potential leaving means there are maybe two Dlinemen needed. Slipping backwards.....