Speaking of Cap Room - The Orange Mane

Rohirrim · 01-25-2007, 02:08 PM

Will the Broncos consider cutting Rod Smith? He's the highest paid player on the team. I like Rod more than anyone. He's given his all to the Broncos and deserves his name on the ROF. But can the Broncos afford to pay him $5.5 mil. for 52 catches next year? Will Mike ask him to retire? Thoughts?

Clockwork Orange · 01-25-2007, 02:11 PM

If I'm not mistaken, Rod has restructured his deal more than once. So I don't know what the cap implications of cutting him would be.

On a personal note, I don't want to see that happen and I'd rather they just pay him the $$ for one more year and let him go out on his own terms. I believe he's earned it.

freak6 · 01-25-2007, 02:13 PM

I think Rod should restructure for the benefit of the team, especially if there is someone we have targeted that will be a difference maker, and we need the money to get the guy signed.

Florida_Bronco · 01-25-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

If I'm not mistaken, Rod has restructured his deal more than once. So I don't know what the cap implications of cutting him would be.

On a personal note, I don't want to see that happen and I'd rather they just pay him the $$ for one more year and let him go out on his own terms. I believe he's earned it.

I agree. Rod has re-worked that contract a couple times (I believe) and I think he's earned the right to be paid.

Dudeskey · 01-25-2007, 02:27 PM

Even if it means cutting plummer after June 1 to pay Rod, I say let him get a nice last chunk of jack before he retires... Rod's earned it.

Broncoman13 · 01-25-2007, 02:28 PM

Rod has earned the right to go out on his own terms. He's restructured for the benefit of the team a few occassions. If he wants to get paid this last sum of money so that he can retire "at ease" then the team should pay it and chalk it up to a great player in our most memorable years.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 01-25-2007, 02:40 PM

Keep Rod but restructure his bonus so it is spread over years. We can eat a couple million in dead cap room for 3-4 years to thank him for his great service.

watermock · 01-25-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Guy

Keep Rod but restructure his bonus so it is spread over years. We can eat a couple million in dead cap room for 3-4 years to thank him for his great service.

You can't really do that. God only knows what the cap hit would be. He needs to reduce is salary, not just move it yet again.

How do you restructure a contract for a 37 year old WR?

Florida_Bronco · 01-25-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock

He needs to reduce is salary

No, he doesn't.

watermock · 01-25-2007, 02:48 PM

Rod has been more than happy to restructure every time...hell..I'll take guaranteed money every time.

More likely candidates might be Nalen, Lepsis, Wilson, Champ or Javon, even Jay.

watermock · 01-25-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

No, he doesn't.

Sorry, this isn't a Rod Smith lovefest...he's not worth his salary, period. He has a huge nest egg stored...he's a real chipmunk...he has to be signed to a smaller contract...god only knows what his remaining SB is...

Herc help me.

We put him on vet min.,..he's still making a mill...and he gets all that SB out there. I don't know the details, but I know we owe him a ton because he's redone multiple times. He needs to take number 3 salary.

Florida_Bronco · 01-25-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock

Sorry, this isn't a Rod Smith lovefest...he's not worth his salary, period.

He was worth more than his salary back when he had back to back 100 catch seasons, but took less for the benefit of the team.

Rod has made many sacrifices for the team, and now it's time to pay the man his money.

sirhcyennek81 · 01-25-2007, 02:53 PM

They will probably restucture his contract, shrink the $ involved and remove years so its a 1 or 2 year deal.

01-25-2007, 02:59 PM

when he did what he did... he was paid and now he is getting paid for doing very little. thanks for the great years, but time to restructure again. not worth the salary...

Elway 4 Life · 01-25-2007, 03:05 PM

He needs to stay and play until HE wants to leave and then we need to hire him as a coach of some sort.

ludo21 · 01-25-2007, 03:14 PM

He deserves EVERY penny.

If they can somehow make some of his money guaranteed, then im all for that to lower the cap hit.

But he is the ALL TIME Bronco behind Elway. Guy is the face of the franchise through these tough years after Elway.

Rod is the man, no reason not to keep him and pay the man for ALL he has done for this team.

Rohirrim · 01-25-2007, 03:19 PM

I don't know. There's no player I respect as much as Rod Smith, but I also know that Shanahan has a very cold, business eye when it comes to the Broncos. How can he justify paying a #3 WR more than anyone else on the team? I really wonder if he'll do that.

bpc · 01-25-2007, 03:20 PM

Rod will restructure turning this into a roster bonus, providing us cap relief.

SonOfLe-loLang · 01-25-2007, 03:24 PM

Problem is, Rod, as a third/fourth receiver would probably have to play special teams. Can he do that? My money says hes still a bronco next year for leadership alone. His play has clearly slipped

BroncoFiend · 01-25-2007, 03:42 PM

Expect Rod to take a pay cut to his base salary. Any restructuring he did in the past was money that was converted into signing bonus and was paid immediately, therefore, there is no threat to him losing money he has earned in previous years.

Requiem · 01-25-2007, 03:42 PM

I don't give a **** if you all think he deserves it or not; 37 year old #3 wide receivers don't get paid 5.5 million dollars; 27 year old elite wide receivers that are #2's don't get paid that much. Reduce.

Garcia Bronco · 01-25-2007, 03:53 PM

People need to leave Rod Smith and his money alone. He's not dead...and he's not old. If the GOAT can play until he's 40 something...then our GOAT can do the same. His play hasn't slipped either. He's still a great blocker and he can make tough catches too. He doesn't have the speed anymore, but that's nothing some hardass traing won't cure.

Ron Mexico · 01-25-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

He was worth more than his salary back when he had back to back 100 catch seasons, but took less for the benefit of the team.

Rod has made many sacrifices for the team, and now it's time to pay the man his money.

He's my favorite player and your heart is in the right place. Unfortunately, NFL Football is a business. Rod knows that as well as anyone. If he wants to stay, he'll take less. I'd hate to see him go, but Montana to KC, Rice to Oakland, Brown to Tampa Bay, etc. Rod will always be a Bronco, but the business end is unavoidable.

Lestat · 01-25-2007, 04:23 PM

we need to keep Rod, whether it means paying him or restructuring, he's a positive force on the team & it's likely without a career year this is his last

so let him call his own shots, he's earned it more than anyone on the team & then we can move him into a coaching position(lord knows he'd make an awesome WR coach after a few years)

Smiling Assassin27 · 01-25-2007, 04:45 PM

sorry, nobody's above the team. rod is the last real link to the glory days and one hell of a soldier. he sacrifices stats and notoriety for wins and you can't ask more than that. but if this team can get better (and we all know it HAS to in order to win a division, let alone a superbowl), and cutting rod or asking him to restructure is an option, then shanny's got an obligation to seriously entertain that option. it comes down to value of players. if shanny deems jake as more valuable than rod after jake takes a paycut, then he's gotta pull the trigger. sentimentality is for the oakland raiders.

that said, i don't think rod goes anywhere this offseason.

01-25-2007, 02:08 PM	#1
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,841	Speaking of Cap Room Will the Broncos consider cutting Rod Smith? He's the highest paid player on the team. I like Rod more than anyone. He's given his all to the Broncos and deserves his name on the ROF. But can the Broncos afford to pay him $5.5 mil. for 52 catches next year? Will Mike ask him to retire? Thoughts?

01-25-2007, 03:24 PM	#19
SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,219 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	Rod Problem is, Rod, as a third/fourth receiver would probably have to play special teams. Can he do that? My money says hes still a bronco next year for leadership alone. His play has clearly slipped

01-25-2007, 03:53 PM	#22
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	People need to leave Rod Smith and his money alone. He's not dead...and he's not old. If the GOAT can play until he's 40 something...then our GOAT can do the same. His play hasn't slipped either. He's still a great blocker and he can make tough catches too. He doesn't have the speed anymore, but that's nothing some hardass traing won't cure. Last edited by Garcia Bronco; 01-25-2007 at 04:44 PM..

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01-25-2007, 02:11 PM	#2
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	If I'm not mistaken, Rod has restructured his deal more than once. So I don't know what the cap implications of cutting him would be. On a personal note, I don't want to see that happen and I'd rather they just pay him the $$ for one more year and let him go out on his own terms. I believe he's earned it.

01-25-2007, 02:13 PM	#3
freak6 3,631 - WAKE UP!!!! Impeach President Cheney and Puppet Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,651 Adopt-a-Bronco: MJK	I think Rod should restructure for the benefit of the team, especially if there is someone we have targeted that will be a difference maker, and we need the money to get the guy signed.

01-25-2007, 02:27 PM	#5
Dudeskey Ring of Famer This space for rent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 4,314	Even if it means cutting plummer after June 1 to pay Rod, I say let him get a nice last chunk of jack before he retires... Rod's earned it.

01-25-2007, 02:28 PM	#6
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	Rod has earned the right to go out on his own terms. He's restructured for the benefit of the team a few occassions. If he wants to get paid this last sum of money so that he can retire "at ease" then the team should pay it and chalk it up to a great player in our most memorable years.

01-25-2007, 02:40 PM	#7
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	Keep Rod but restructure his bonus so it is spread over years. We can eat a couple million in dead cap room for 3-4 years to thank him for his great service.

01-25-2007, 02:48 PM	#10
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Rod has been more than happy to restructure every time...hell..I'll take guaranteed money every time. More likely candidates might be Nalen, Lepsis, Wilson, Champ or Javon, even Jay.

01-25-2007, 02:53 PM	#13
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,674 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	They will probably restucture his contract, shrink the $ involved and remove years so its a 1 or 2 year deal.

01-25-2007, 02:59 PM	#14
DB84FAN Guest Posts: n/a	when he did what he did... he was paid and now he is getting paid for doing very little. thanks for the great years, but time to restructure again. not worth the salary...

01-25-2007, 03:05 PM	#15
Elway 4 Life Pass rushers apply here! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,806 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	He needs to stay and play until HE wants to leave and then we need to hire him as a coach of some sort.

01-25-2007, 03:14 PM	#16
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,906 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	He deserves EVERY penny. If they can somehow make some of his money guaranteed, then im all for that to lower the cap hit. But he is the ALL TIME Bronco behind Elway. Guy is the face of the franchise through these tough years after Elway. Rod is the man, no reason not to keep him and pay the man for ALL he has done for this team.

01-25-2007, 03:19 PM	#17
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,841	I don't know. There's no player I respect as much as Rod Smith, but I also know that Shanahan has a very cold, business eye when it comes to the Broncos. How can he justify paying a #3 WR more than anyone else on the team? I really wonder if he'll do that.

01-25-2007, 03:20 PM	#18
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Rod will restructure turning this into a roster bonus, providing us cap relief.

01-25-2007, 03:42 PM	#20
BroncoFiend Ring of Famer The enemy's gate is down Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,505 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Expect Rod to take a pay cut to his base salary. Any restructuring he did in the past was money that was converted into signing bonus and was paid immediately, therefore, there is no threat to him losing money he has earned in previous years.

01-25-2007, 03:42 PM	#21
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,567 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	I don't give a **** if you all think he deserves it or not; 37 year old #3 wide receivers don't get paid 5.5 million dollars; 27 year old elite wide receivers that are #2's don't get paid that much. Reduce.

01-25-2007, 04:23 PM	#24
Lestat Oreo Lucian Rockefeller The New Age Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 5,168	we need to keep Rod, whether it means paying him or restructuring, he's a positive force on the team & it's likely without a career year this is his last so let him call his own shots, he's earned it more than anyone on the team & then we can move him into a coaching position(lord knows he'd make an awesome WR coach after a few years)

01-25-2007, 04:45 PM	#25
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,976 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	sorry, nobody's above the team. rod is the last real link to the glory days and one hell of a soldier. he sacrifices stats and notoriety for wins and you can't ask more than that. but if this team can get better (and we all know it HAS to in order to win a division, let alone a superbowl), and cutting rod or asking him to restructure is an option, then shanny's got an obligation to seriously entertain that option. it comes down to value of players. if shanny deems jake as more valuable than rod after jake takes a paycut, then he's gotta pull the trigger. sentimentality is for the oakland raiders. that said, i don't think rod goes anywhere this offseason.