Sign Rod Coleman ~ Draft Patrick Willis

[-Slap-]

Rod Coleman is undersized for a DT and he's going to be 31 years old when the season starts. Jim Bates preference is for a big DTs (like there's a defensive coordinator out there who prefers spindly ones).

That said, Rod Coleman is basically the closest thing the NFL has seen to John Randle in the last 15 years. Coleman’s 28 sacks from 2004-06 were the highest total by an NFL defensive tackle, 7.5 more than the next closest player, and tied for eighth among all players.

Of course, Rod's position coach during this productive stretch was none other than Bill Johnson.

We need pressure up the gut. A sudden penetrator like Maa Tanuvasa was a very underrated component of our back to back Championship squads.

If Coleman's age and lack of bulk drop his price, I hope we give him a serious look this summer.

[Florida_Bronco]

He would be a good pickup.

[broncs2bowl]

He would improve our D-line greatly even without a DE. This guy does it all. Just a question: He is kind of undersized, but it he still good vs the run?

[cmhargrove]

Originally Posted by broncs2bowl

He would improve our D-line greatly even without a DE. This guy does it all. Just a question: He is kind of undersized, but it he still good vs the run?

I believe that Atlanta over the past several years has been one of the best teams against the run. I don't remember the stats, but I thought they were even in the top five two of the past three years. Somebody check me here, but I think that is correct.

While I love the personalities our team has brought in from Cleveland, I would feel a little better about the talent from Atlanta. Coleman or Kearney are both "high motor" possibilities. I really think we need some "high motor" additions to limit time in the pocket from Manning, Brady, Rivers, etc.. I hate seeing Peyton standing tall all day playing catch with Reggie Wayne.

In all honesty, I think that during the Colts game, they could have picked on Champ just as much as they picked on DWill with the time they had. Champ may have picked one more ball, but they still could have burned him for a couple of TD's. We need high motor guys, starting at DT. Then, Dumerville and Ekuban (or Kearney) would look like heroes on the outside.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by cmhargrove

I believe that Atlanta over the past several years has been one of the best teams against the run. I don't remember the stats, but I thought they were even in the top five two of the past three years. Somebody check me here, but I think that is correct.

While I love the personalities our team has brought in from Cleveland, I would feel a little better about the talent from Atlanta. Coleman or Kearney are both "high motor" possibilities. I really think we need some "high motor" additions to limit time in the pocket from Manning, Brady, Rivers, etc.. I hate seeing Peyton standing tall all day playing catch with Reggie Wayne.

In all honesty, I think that during the Colts game, they could have picked on Champ just as much as they picked on DWill with the time they had. Champ may have picked one more ball, but they still could have burned him for a couple of TD's. We need high motor guys, starting at DT. Then, Dumerville and Ekuban (or Kearney) would look like heroes on the outside.

Atlanta was 28th against the run in 2003, 9th in 2004, 25th in 2005 and 9th in 2006.

[bpc]

We should have had this guy when he got done in Oakland.

[broncs2bowl]

Yea we should have got him. The guy is very good and I heard from many Falcons fans on their message boards that he can stop the run

[GonzoLays]

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Rod Coleman is undersized for a DT and he's going to be 31 years old when the season starts. Jim Bates preference is for a big DTs (like there's a defensive coordinator out there who prefers spindly ones).

That said, Rod Coleman is basically the closest thing the NFL has seen to John Randle in the last 15 years. Coleman’s 28 sacks from 2004-06 were the highest total by an NFL defensive tackle, 7.5 more than the next closest player, and tied for eighth among all players.

Of course, Rod's position coach during this productive stretch was none other than Bill Johnson.

We need pressure up the gut. A sudden penetrator like Maa Tanuvasa was a very underrated component of our back to back Championship squads.

If Coleman's age and lack of bulk drop his price, I hope we give him a serious look this summer.

What in the hell is up with you and undersized defensive lineman? Do you want to see LT/LJ rush for a 250 yards against us? First KGB now the smallest DT in the league?

You hate undersized LB's but love undersized DLineman? That doesn't even make sense.

[Dudeskey]

Oooh yes, I'd definitlely like this move... as long as we aren't overpaying of course.

[-Slap-]

Originally Posted by GonzoLays

What in the hell is up with you and undersized defensive lineman? Do you want to see LT/LJ rush for a 250 yards against us? First KGB now the smallest DT in the league?

You hate undersized LB's but love undersized DLineman? That doesn't even make sense.

White guys can't play defensive end, right Gonzo?

[broncs2bowl]

How much approximately would this BEAST cost

[GonzoLays]

Originally Posted by -Slap-

White guys can't play defensive end, right Gonzo?

Trying to obfuscate the matter? I think so.

Getting back to the thread, why do you love undersized defensive lineman so much when you despise undersized lbs?

[Mediator12]

If they play a one gap scheme he is an Ideal UT style DT. If they play two gap like Bates likes to, then you need a big mountain DT instead.

[Drek]

If Coleman will sign cheap I'd be for it, but not as an every down DT. What I'd like to see is Terdell Sands and either Coleman, Corey Redding, or Cullen Jenkins brought in. Sands is the DT on first and second downs along with short yardage 3rds and 4th down attempts. One of the other three plays strong side DE on running downs opposite Ekuban. On passing downs Sands or Warren sits, the smaller DT moves in, and we line up Dumervil and Lang on the outsides.

It'd give us some versatility and enough depth that if someone gets hurt we aren't forced to play a pass rusher on running downs or a straight run stopper on passing downs.

[-Slap-]

Originally Posted by GonzoLays

Trying to obfuscate the matter? I think so.

Getting back to the thread, why do you love undersized defensive lineman so much when you despise undersized lbs?

You're the one who said white guys don't have what it takes to play defensive line, Gonzo. Why are you backing off that statement now?

[Rascal]

No. He is too undersized and with our smallish LB's we need some serious big boys up front.

I want Sands from Oakland.

[-Slap-]

Draft Patrick Willis @ 21 and we can play who we want up front.



6'2", 232 pounds, 4.55 in the 40.

Can play OLB or ILB.

Butkus Award winner.

SEC Defensive Player of the year.

Led the SEC in tackles for the second straight year.

First Team All American.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Mediator12

If they play a one gap scheme he is an Ideal UT style DT. If they play two gap like Bates likes to, then you need a big mountain DT instead.

That's why I'm hoping for another Keith Traylor type player (Who played for Gates and has five super bowl rings now). I would like a big physical presence on the inside that can overpower opponents more than another speed guy.

[Rascal]

We don't need a LB in the first round Slap. We either cut Ian right away and get a SLB in FA, or we stick with what we got. I'm guessing we'll stick with the LB's we have. Even if we cut Ian, we still have a huge hole at DT/DE to fill, and we have to get another LB and take a cap hit from Ian. That's expensive and it's not addressing the problem.

We need to fix the d-line plain and simple. Trying to improve the secondary or LB's will only cover the problem for a while (which will be against the better teams that can exploit that weakness). Improve the d-line and see how the secondary and LB core do. If they still struggle, then address them.

[Breck Bronc]

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Draft Patrick Willis @ 21 and we can play who we want up front.



6'2", 232 pounds, 4.55 in the 40.

Can play OLB or ILB.

Butkus Award winner.

SEC Defensive Player of the year.

Led the SEC in tackles for the second straight year.

First Team All American.

He looks like a freaking badass with the visor and club cast. It's too bad we won't be drafting linebackers early this year, I think.

Nick Barnett had one of those clubs at the end of the past season. It wouldn't matter if one of our linebackers broke a hand and had to wear a huge cast; collectively, they can't catch the ball.

[cutthemdown]

Any good players we can get. If its an undersized tackle that makes plays so be it. Broncos need some more horses.

[-Slap-]

Originally Posted by Rascal

We don't need a LB in the first round Slap. We either cut Ian right away and get a SLB in FA, or we stick with what we got. I'm guessing we'll stick with the LB's we have. Even if we cut Ian, we still have a huge hole at DT/DE to fill, and we have to get another LB and take a cap hit from Ian. That's expensive and it's not addressing the problem.

We need to fix the d-line plain and simple. Trying to improve the secondary or LB's will only cover the problem for a while (which will be against the better teams that can exploit that weakness). Improve the d-line and see how the secondary and LB core do. If they still struggle, then address them.

The linebacking corps needs someone who can make plays in all phases of the game. The group we have now is too one dimensional.

Last year we took the best offensive player in the most athletic conference.

This year we can take the best defensive player in the most athletic conference.

Look at this clip and tell me he's not a freaking badass.

Please note he sheds a blocker by himself before he ruins the kid with the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bM4s...elated&search=

[-Slap-]

This kid is all about perfect tackling technique. You know, that's the kind of thing that can become contagious for a defense.

[2KBack]

I just really want a physical presence in the front 7, someone to fear and account for. I'd Prefer DT, but anywhere on that front 7 would help. Any disruption up there will only make Champ and the secondary better.

[broncosteven]

Originally Posted by -Slap-

This kid is all about perfect tackling technique. You know, that's the kind of thing that can become contagious for a defense.

That was a sweet play. How was the rest of his career?