Stupid Cutler Article - Cutler = Grossman

[DeusExManning]

I did not see this posted, sorry if this is a duplicate.

Compared to NFL's cream, Cutler just milk
BERNIE LINCICOME



January 17, 2007 3:01 PM

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Examining the four remaining playoff quarterbacks, the thought occurs that the Denver Broncos' young Jay Cutler has a very, very long way to go.

Assuming that this is the lowest acceptable level for the Broncos - the conference championship, a place that Jake Plummer had taken the Broncos and still could not keep his job - then this is the company Cutler must keep.

Peyton Manning. Drew Brees. Tom Brady. Rex Grossman.

OK. There is a little light there on that last one, except to point out that Grossman did take the Bears to 13-3 and that he, when it mattered, stepped up instead of back.



But the other three are inarguably the best three quarterbacks in football, with Brady and Manning flip and flop in any argument on the point. Brady gets the edge because he has three Super Bowl rings to Manning's none and, when the two of them meet, it is generally Manning who is asked to explain how Brady got the best of him again.

As for Brees, the best thing to ever happen to him was to get free of the constipated offense of San Diego and go to work for an ex-quarterback in Sean Payton rather than an ex-linebacker in Marty Schottenheimer.

Why this did not work for Plummer, who went from loose and lively to rigid and grim under Mike Shanahan, is clearly a case of working for the wrong ex-Eastern Illinois quarterback.

The result was the stuff of myth, and there New Orleans is the darling of all who love a good story.

When considering how far Cutler is behind any of the four, optimism reaches for the example of Brady, back when he was a sixth-round draft hunch pressed into action. Or, more commonly, that of Ben Roethlisberger and his rookie achievements.

Pragmatism, however, insists that the Brady and Roethlisberger models no longer work, since Cutler had some of that chance and lost more than he won, when one more win would have at least put the Broncos in the playoffs.

And as Shanahan has insisted, the Broncos are not aiming low but high, and they will get there faster with Cutler than without.

Here's what the Broncos are looking at with Cutler, just to get back where Plummer had taken them: at least three more seasons.

Taking the least of the final four, Grossman of the Bears, he spent three seasons out of the line of fire, due primarily to injury but still unexposed to football, starting just six games in three years before making it all the way through this season.

And, as has been widely and loudly pointed out, until last weekend's overtime survival of Seattle, Grossman had done nothing to inspire confidence in anyone but his coach, Lovie Smith, especially after a final season game statistical rating of 0.0.

So if Cutler is to match Grossman, and starting next season he will be at roughly the same point that Grossman was, what the Broncos need is an exceptional defense, a game-breaking kick returner, two dependable and interchangeable running backs and the dismal NFC Central division to play in.

As for the others, consider that among the three of them, they average seven years as starting quarterbacks, have 31 Pro Bowls among them, and together threw for 81 touchdowns this season.

It isn't that the other more pedigreed quarterbacks have been exceptional in the playoffs, because they have not, except for Brees.

Manning has felt it necessary to whine that it is not his fault that the Colts have won two games because the Colts defense has suddenly and inexplicably learned how to stop the run.

Manning has otherwise thrown interceptions and disconnected and been anything but the man who carried his team all year. But what you know is that he is still that same man. The criticism that follows Manning is that he cannot win the big one, while Cutler has yet to even get to a medium-size one.

Brady, too, has been less than his legend, which is to place him in his generation where Joe Montana was in his, but still Brady has done what he has always done, win in the postseason, losing only once, that to Plummer, for whatever that is worth.

Super Bowls have been won with bad quarterbacks and have been lost with good ones, the Broncos at least as good an example of that as are the Buffalo Bills.

Imagination allows that, one day, Cutler will be where these four are, but not soon, and not soon enough.

http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article...47615994740760

[ludo21]

Obviously didnt watch any of our games this year.

I hate writers that dont watch then spew this crap.

[chickennob2]

That would be a wonderful argument if we were starting Cutler over Manning, Brady, or Brees. The only thing Plummer has in common with those is that he has NFL experience. But then again, so does Jeff George.

Cutler is the best we have right now. Cutler is the future. Accept it, or find a new team, Bernie Lencicome

[Jesterhole]

Dude doesn't make one good argument for any of his statements. Cutler is better than Grossman by leaps and bounds. Oh well, nothing to do but talk till next season...

[-Slap-]

You know, this article essentially sums up Lincicome as a writer. He's always been a notorious front runner and he'll be kissing Cutler's ass next year as hard as anyone.

[Wes Mantooth]

what the hell is this guy even talking about?

[24champ]

Originally Posted by yoakum3

what the hell is this guy even talking about?

I was thinking the same thing, I read it like half-way through and was like what the **** is this?

[XXXII&III]

Take a look at the comments that people posted about ol' Bernie. They are quite nasty and rightfully so. I don't know how to link but it's in today's Rocky Mountain News.

[ton80]

Bernie drinks a cup of sour owl $hit for breakfast each morning.

[RhymesayersDU]

I didn't know mattbeymvp was actually Bernie Lincicome...

[Sassy]

Well, I would say Jay still has a lot to prove. He's won one game. I hope he does well...but we don't know that he won't be a bust...not yet.

[24champ]

"Wow, I can't believe you get paid for writing this junk. I have missed Kravitz every day since you took over for him and am glad the Post brought back Woody Paige so there is at least one decent columnist in Denver."

"Bernie Lincicome's columns are about as entertaining as a root canal. Can we find someone who actually likes the local sports teams to write for the paper?"

"BERNIE, YOU LOOK CONSTIPATED. SO GO HIT THE TOILET AND SHUT UP"

More comments here-

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm..._85504,00.html

[ro_50]

I am growing sick and tired of idiot sports columnists and their takes.

[-Slap-]

He's even more annoying when the local team is winning. I swear, the way he talked **** during the Bulls championship runs, you would have thought he was on the team.

[Jetmeck]

Even the Chef fans are quaking in their boots at the thought of a 50-60 yard spiral landing in BM or JW's hands right on target. If the hard headed Chef variety can be convinced I am not worried. Cutler is a huge step in the right direction period. Where is this idiot writer ? He should be slapped about the head for even thinking of comparing Cutler to Grossman. Cutler has played five games? versus Grossman over several seasons.....what an idiot sportwriter.

[Bronco Billy]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

He should be slapped about the head for even thinking of comparing Cutler to Grossman. Cutler has played five games? versus Grossman over several seasons.....what an idiot sportwriter.

This is the first season Grossman's made it through without getting injured, so he's practically a rookie in terms of game experience. However, I agree with your point. The writer's an idiot.

[usedupbraids]

what? where does this guy live im going to burn a bag of dog crap on his steps

[Crushaholic]

Originally Posted by DeusExShanahan

So if Cutler is to match Grossman, and starting next season he will be at roughly the same point that Grossman was, what the Broncos need is an exceptional defense, a game-breaking kick returner, two dependable and interchangeable running backs and the dismal NFC Central division to play in.

First of all, it's not the NFC Central anymore. Second of all, we play that division next year...

[rubaiyat]

So the gist is that Cutler hasn't passed for 27 TD's, had multiple Pro Bowls, and post season success?

Well only one of the Qb's listed has had any postseason success that matters.

And since he's only started 5 games, I didn't really predict a Pro Bowl year...

Nor more than 6 TD's as it took breaking a record to get as many as Cutler ended up getting

[Paladin]

Bernie has his moments.... He is always a bit cockeyed and off beat. His shtick is to create controversy and then later feed off the "controversy", citing other members of the fringe element of sports who may agree with him or at least cite him is an article. He is in desperate need to do something because he has been a terrible bust at the Rocky and I do not believe he gets much press anywhere. Even Burger Bill gets more attention than he does, With Woody back, the other guys take a hit over who is the top writer in town.

Personally, I do not care much for most of them except for Jim Armstrong and an occasional Woody. (heh, heh)

[-Slap-]

You find examples of better sportswriting on message boards like this one every single day than you generally find at most major newspapers throughout the country.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by Sassy

Well, I would say Jay still has a lot to prove. He's won one game. I hope he does well...but we don't know that he won't be a bust...not yet.

I seem to remember Cutler doing the improbable against SD in SD. We were down what 28-3? I remember seeing Cutler leading a desperate comeback to lead this team within ONE score. We just got a glimpse of what Cutler can do that day...I think he just scratched the surface of his potential. Shanahan worked well with QBs like Montana, Young, Elway, Plummer etc. I don't see where Cutler will be a bust...he isn't Greise thank god.

[Broncos4Life]

What a horrible article. This guy is a piece of **** with nothing better to write about!

[Paladin]

Sassy has a point. though. Most seem to extol the "potential" they see in this young man, but he still has to walk the walk. It will not be until he pulls out three or so fourth quarter comeback wins or such before he will "come of age" as a pro QB. The media type - whom none of us give a rat's arse what they think or write, right? - won't give him anything because he is the anti-Vince and the anti-Matt QB. He might even be the anti-Brady.

He'll get a chance to play against Tennessee next year, and Vince will be given the "favorite's" role. If Cutler beats the Titan's D like a drum, then the sentiments might turn a bit different. In fact, I think the national Media resented Shanahan for drafting him and that resentment transfers to Cutler as well.

Yet when fans of other teams see him play, there is usually an "Oh, sh&t!" comment that comes from them. That's a better gage right now than any comments made by sportwriters who never played the game.......

[Clockwork Orange]

Pretty standard Lincicome article. I think the only reason they keep him around is because he makes Mark Kiszla's work look good by comparison.