Willis McGahee - The Orange Mane

Clockwork Orange · 01-16-2007, 02:03 PM

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...tbd1066004.asp

Marv Levy has gotten a lot of credit for changing the culture of the Bills since taking over as general manager a year ago. Much of it is justified. Levy has instilled a renewed sense of camaraderie, and he has been firm in his commitment to players of high character and intellect.

But Levy can't have it both ways. The talk about character begins to ring hollow when his top running back, Willis McGahee, is embarrassing the franchise and the community at every turn.

McGahee has worn out his welcome in this town. It's pretty evident that he doesn't want to be here. From what I can gather, his recent request for a contract extension is a thinly veiled attempt to poison the waters with management and force a trade out of Buffalo.

Interviewed in this month's Penthouse Magazine, McGahee says it would be a "good situation" if the NFL had a team in Toronto. That's not all. McGahee says rather than put a team in Toronto, the NFL should move the Bills there. "Case closed," he says.

It's amazing to think McGahee could be so cavalier about the greatest fear of Bills' fans. He couldn't have picked a more ideal way to alienate himself from the local populace. His supporters, who patronize him as you would a recalcitrant 3-year-old, will say he was only kidding - as they did when McGahee said he didn't know it was fourth down in the season opener.

I stopped giving McGahee the benefit of the doubt long ago. In the Penthouse piece, he says there's nothing to do in Buffalo. OK, this isn't Los Angeles or Miami. But fans here don't need their millionaire athletes to rub their noses in it.

High character? Last week, it was reported in the Miami Herald that a woman had filed a paternity suit against McGahee. That makes three in 15 months for McGahee, by three different women. He has been declared the biological father in the other two cases and is paying child support.

Chiniqua Smith, one of the women getting support from McGahee, said she mainly wants her son - Willis McGahee IV - to have a father in his life, "not just every blue moon." Smith said "you can't hold a gun to someone's head" to force him to spend time with his child.

How do you preach character and justify keeping this sort of lowlife on your team? Owner Ralph Wilson said McGahee's off-field issues will weigh into any decision the team makes on a contract extension. Wilson wouldn't rule out an extension, but he seemed reluctant to give a monster payday to a running back he has termed a "disappointment."

"I've been in this game too long to have someone hold a hammer over my head," Wilson said Monday by phone.

McGahee isn't worth the trouble. He's an average running back. He's not worth the sort of investment that his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, is likely to seek (something in the four-year, $30 million range that Arizona gave Edgerrin James). The Bills could stand their ground and let him hold out of camp if that's his strategy. But that wouldn't be the best thing for a young, evolving football team.

They should trade him now. Get a draft pick, find a rookie to go with Anthony Thomas and move on. The running game might slip, but not significantly. Remember, the Bills didn't sell out their last four home games. There's a fragile connection with the fans right now. Taking a stand on McGahee will be a good bit of public relations.

McGahee isn't a very smart person or player. He misses holes. He misses blocks. And where the Buffalo community is concerned, he misses the point. He insults the town's intelligence, and Levy should know that. He's supposed to be in touch with the people here.

If Levy really gets it, he should get McGahee out of here. Case closed.
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Sounds like he could be available. Anyone interested?

Popps · 01-16-2007, 02:07 PM

High character? Last week, it was reported in the Miami Herald that a woman had filed a paternity suit against McGahee. That makes three in 15 months for McGahee, by three different women. He has been declared the biological father in the other two cases and is paying child support.

What a piece of dog****.

Actually, that's an insult to dog****.

-Slap- · 01-16-2007, 02:11 PM

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Chiniqua Smith, one of the women getting support from McGahee

Yet another way to spell Chiniqua. Truly amazing.

McGahee looks like a strong contender in the Bastardmaker Sweepstakes. Only time will tell if he has the staying power to hang with the Sean Kemps and Evander Holyfields.

BroncoInferno · 01-16-2007, 02:14 PM

If he could be had for 3rd I'd go along with it. I don't invest much in the idea that I have to like every player on my team; it's impossible that there won't be a few dickheads. As long as his douchebaggery doesn't cause distrations I'd go along with it.

-Slap- · 01-16-2007, 02:16 PM

I do invest in that theory, but the Broncos never have, witness Kay, Mobley, Carswell, Carter, Gardener, etc.

Clockwork Orange · 01-16-2007, 02:18 PM

His being a Miami guy and grumbling about not liking the city he's in sounds pretty similar to a RB who was here recently. Combined with the fact that Rosenholdout is his agent, I have to say I'd lean towards no on this one.

Jens1893 · 01-16-2007, 02:22 PM

The guy names his kids in the order they were born in?

Clockwork Orange · 01-16-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jens1893

The guy names his kids in the order they were born in?

It worked for George Foreman.

Dudeskey · 01-16-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

High character? Last week, it was reported in the Miami Herald that a woman had filed a paternity suit against McGahee. That makes three in 15 months for McGahee, by three different women. He has been declared the biological father in the other two cases and is paying child support.

What a piece of dog****.

Actually, that's an insult to dog****.

He's a goddamn moron... there are things called condoms and they aren't expensive.

BroncoInferno · 01-16-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

I do invest in that theory, but the Broncos never have, witness Kay, Mobley, Carswell, Carter, Gardener, etc.

The main reason I don't invest in that notion is because there are so many phonies out there who know how to say what people want to hear in front of a camera and seem like a decent fellows. We only see the guys once a week for 3 hrs about half the year, we have no idea how many of them really conduct themselves. There are likely Broncos or former Broncos who are considered decent guys who we would discover to be scum if we REALLY got to know them. Rod Smith had that "altercation" with his wife a few years back...maybe it was an isolated incident, but who knows? Those things normally aren't, in my experience. If they're a good football player and they don't cause a distraction off the field, fine with me. That's not to say I'd be fine with known felons, just that there is so much that we DONT know that I think it's really pointless to invest much in the players' conduct in their private lives (again, so long as the conduct is legal and doesn't cause distrations).

Bronco LB 59 · 01-16-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

His being a Miami guy and grumbling about not liking the city he's in sounds pretty similar to a RB who was here recently. Combined with the fact that Rosenholdout is his agent, I have to say I'd lean towards no on this one.

Portis is five times the football player McGahee will ever be.

Clockwork Orange · 01-16-2007, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco LB 52

Portis is five times the football player McGahee will ever be.

I agree, that's what made Portis tolerable.

Bronco LB 59 · 01-16-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Urinal_Cake

He's a goddamn moron... there are things called condoms and they aren't expensive.

Bareback feels so much better though.

Ratboy · 01-16-2007, 02:44 PM

I'd take McGahee over anyone in our backfield.

footstepsfrom#27 · 01-16-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Sounds like he could be available. Anyone interested?

Sure why not...that big buildup stressing his high charachter and team player attributes has me chompin' at the bit for this scumsucker. We can team him with Rick "Bong" Williams for a great 1-2 kick in the nuts.

When's MoC gettin' out?

alkemical · 01-16-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco LB 52

Bareback feels so much better though.

I'm sure childsupport cubed feels even better.

BABronco · 01-16-2007, 03:07 PM

Mike Bell> Willis McGahee

-Slap- · 01-16-2007, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

The main reason I don't invest in that notion is because there are so many phonies out there who know how to say what people want to hear in front of a camera and seem like a decent fellows. We only see the guys once a week for 3 hrs about half the year, we have no idea how many of them really conduct themselves. There are likely Broncos or former Broncos who are considered decent guys who we would discover to be scum if we REALLY got to know them. Rod Smith had that "altercation" with his wife a few years back...maybe it was an isolated incident, but who knows? Those things normally aren't, in my experience. If they're a good football player and they don't cause a distraction off the field, fine with me. That's not to say I'd be fine with known felons, just that there is so much that we DONT know that I think it's really pointless to invest much in the players' conduct in their private lives (again, so long as the conduct is legal and doesn't cause distrations).

Believe me, if a guy has a phony image, his teammates and the organization know better than anyone because they spend time covering for the guy. There was a time when bad guys were blackballed throughout the League. The Al Davis type owners opened up that Pandora's Box and now the inmates have been running the asylum for the last two decades. Winning and losing isn't nearly as important as being disrespected.

Killericon · 01-16-2007, 03:25 PM

I'd rather go 9-7 with a guy like Mike Bell in our backfield than 13-3 with a guy like this a-hole.

BABronco · 01-16-2007, 03:33 PM

MB should break out next year

brncs_fan · 01-16-2007, 03:39 PM

The guy finished 24th in the league in rushing (below Tatum) and is only averaging 3.8 yards while missing two games and being an apparent disturbance.

Pass.

Master___Pain · 01-16-2007, 03:43 PM

At least Willis will have that edjukatshin to fall back on when he's done playing ball. Strange to see a "U" player upset about the night life isn't?

Bronco_Beerslug · 01-16-2007, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urinal_Cake

He's a goddamn moron... there are things called condoms and they aren't expensive.

Get lasered and you don't even have to remember to pack condoms around with you.

toad · 01-16-2007, 03:45 PM

Doesn't Rod Smith have 3 kids by 3 different women as well?

Maybe not conceived in the short period of time as McGahee's but still....

DomCasual · 01-16-2007, 03:49 PM

Honestly, the paternity issues aside, I can't say I blame him for wanting out of Buffalo. I have lived there - it's a hole. Other parts of Western New York are incredible. Buffalo sucks. In fact, there is a word, probably, that would describe it better than "sucks." I just can't think of it, at the present time.

01-16-2007, 02:03 PM	#1
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Willis McGahee http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...tbd1066004.asp Marv Levy has gotten a lot of credit for changing the culture of the Bills since taking over as general manager a year ago. Much of it is justified. Levy has instilled a renewed sense of camaraderie, and he has been firm in his commitment to players of high character and intellect. But Levy can't have it both ways. The talk about character begins to ring hollow when his top running back, Willis McGahee, is embarrassing the franchise and the community at every turn. McGahee has worn out his welcome in this town. It's pretty evident that he doesn't want to be here. From what I can gather, his recent request for a contract extension is a thinly veiled attempt to poison the waters with management and force a trade out of Buffalo. Interviewed in this month's Penthouse Magazine, McGahee says it would be a "good situation" if the NFL had a team in Toronto. That's not all. McGahee says rather than put a team in Toronto, the NFL should move the Bills there. "Case closed," he says. It's amazing to think McGahee could be so cavalier about the greatest fear of Bills' fans. He couldn't have picked a more ideal way to alienate himself from the local populace. His supporters, who patronize him as you would a recalcitrant 3-year-old, will say he was only kidding - as they did when McGahee said he didn't know it was fourth down in the season opener. I stopped giving McGahee the benefit of the doubt long ago. In the Penthouse piece, he says there's nothing to do in Buffalo. OK, this isn't Los Angeles or Miami. But fans here don't need their millionaire athletes to rub their noses in it. High character? Last week, it was reported in the Miami Herald that a woman had filed a paternity suit against McGahee. That makes three in 15 months for McGahee, by three different women. He has been declared the biological father in the other two cases and is paying child support. Chiniqua Smith, one of the women getting support from McGahee, said she mainly wants her son - Willis McGahee IV - to have a father in his life, "not just every blue moon." Smith said "you can't hold a gun to someone's head" to force him to spend time with his child. How do you preach character and justify keeping this sort of lowlife on your team? Owner Ralph Wilson said McGahee's off-field issues will weigh into any decision the team makes on a contract extension. Wilson wouldn't rule out an extension, but he seemed reluctant to give a monster payday to a running back he has termed a "disappointment." "I've been in this game too long to have someone hold a hammer over my head," Wilson said Monday by phone. McGahee isn't worth the trouble. He's an average running back. He's not worth the sort of investment that his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, is likely to seek (something in the four-year, $30 million range that Arizona gave Edgerrin James). The Bills could stand their ground and let him hold out of camp if that's his strategy. But that wouldn't be the best thing for a young, evolving football team. They should trade him now. Get a draft pick, find a rookie to go with Anthony Thomas and move on. The running game might slip, but not significantly. Remember, the Bills didn't sell out their last four home games. There's a fragile connection with the fans right now. Taking a stand on McGahee will be a good bit of public relations. McGahee isn't a very smart person or player. He misses holes. He misses blocks. And where the Buffalo community is concerned, he misses the point. He insults the town's intelligence, and Levy should know that. He's supposed to be in touch with the people here. If Levy really gets it, he should get McGahee out of here. Case closed. ------------------- Sounds like he could be available. Anyone interested?

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01-16-2007, 02:07 PM	#2
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	High character? Last week, it was reported in the Miami Herald that a woman had filed a paternity suit against McGahee. That makes three in 15 months for McGahee, by three different women. He has been declared the biological father in the other two cases and is paying child support. What a piece of dog**. Actually, that's an insult to dog**.

01-16-2007, 02:14 PM	#4
BroncoInferno Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 13,000	If he could be had for 3rd I'd go along with it. I don't invest much in the idea that I have to like every player on my team; it's impossible that there won't be a few dickheads. As long as his douchebaggery doesn't cause distrations I'd go along with it.

01-16-2007, 02:16 PM	#5
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	I do invest in that theory, but the Broncos never have, witness Kay, Mobley, Carswell, Carter, Gardener, etc.

01-16-2007, 02:18 PM	#6
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	His being a Miami guy and grumbling about not liking the city he's in sounds pretty similar to a RB who was here recently. Combined with the fact that Rosenholdout is his agent, I have to say I'd lean towards no on this one.

01-16-2007, 02:22 PM	#7
Jens1893 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: People´s Republic of Bad Cannstatt Posts: 9,170	The guy names his kids in the order they were born in?

01-16-2007, 02:44 PM	#14
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	I'd take McGahee over anyone in our backfield.

01-16-2007, 03:07 PM	#17
BABronco RP2012 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,214 Adopt-a-Bronco: Clady	Mike Bell> Willis McGahee

01-16-2007, 03:25 PM	#19
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	I'd rather go 9-7 with a guy like Mike Bell in our backfield than 13-3 with a guy like this a-hole.

01-16-2007, 03:33 PM	#20
BABronco RP2012 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,214 Adopt-a-Bronco: Clady	MB should break out next year

01-16-2007, 03:39 PM	#21
brncs_fan How about some Tapenade! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Coaches Cradle...Eastern Illinois University Posts: 5,490 Adopt-a-Bronco: Manti Teo	The guy finished 24th in the league in rushing (below Tatum) and is only averaging 3.8 yards while missing two games and being an apparent disturbance. Pass.

01-16-2007, 03:43 PM	#22
Master___Pain Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Springs Posts: 4,605 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rock Hoover	At least Willis will have that edjukatshin to fall back on when he's done playing ball. Strange to see a "U" player upset about the night life isn't?

01-16-2007, 03:45 PM	#24
toad Pro Bowler Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 657 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Clark	Doesn't Rod Smith have 3 kids by 3 different women as well? Maybe not conceived in the short period of time as McGahee's but still....

01-16-2007, 03:49 PM	#25
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,173 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	Honestly, the paternity issues aside, I can't say I blame him for wanting out of Buffalo. I have lived there - it's a hole. Other parts of Western New York are incredible. Buffalo sucks. In fact, there is a word, probably, that would describe it better than "sucks." I just can't think of it, at the present time.