New Mock from DraftCountDown - The Orange Mane

Broncoman13 · 01-16-2007, 10:48 AM

1. OAKLAND RAIDERS
JAMARCUS RUSSELL QB | L.S.U.

2. DETROIT LIONS
JOE THOMAS OT | Wisconsin

3. CLEVELAND BROWNS
BRADY QUINN QB | Notre Dame

4. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
CALVIN JOHNSON WR | Georgia Tech

5. ARIZONA CARDINALS
ALAN BRANCH DT | Michigan

6. WASHINGTON REDSKINS
GAINES ADAMS DE | Clemson

7. MINNESOTA VIKINGS
JAMAAL ANDERSON DE | Arkansas

8. HOUSTON TEXANS
ADRIAN PETERSON RB | Oklahoma

9. MIAMI DOLPHINS
AMOBI OKOYE DT | Louisville

10. ATLANTA FALCONS
LEON HALL CB | Michigan

11. SAN FRANCISCO 49'ERS
TED GINN, JR. WR | Ohio St.

12. BUFFALO BILLS
LEVI BROWN OT | Penn St.

13. ST. LOUIS RAMS
LAWRENCE TIMMONS OLB | Florida St.

14. CAROLINA PANTHERS
LARON LANDRY

15. PITTSBURGH STEELERS
ADAM CARRIKER DE

16. GREEN BAY PACKERS
MARSHAWN LYNCH RB | California

17. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
COLT BRENNAN QB | Hawaii

18. CINCINNATI BENGALS
DEMARCUS TYLER DT | North Carolina St.

19. TENNESSEE TITANS
DWAYNE JARRETT WR | USC

20. NEW YORK GIANTS
DARRELLE REVIS CB | Pittsburgh

21. DENVER BRONCOS
QUENTIN MOSES DE | Georgia | Scouting Report
Coming off a great junior season Quentin Moses was widely regarded to be one of the premier senior prospects prior to the 2006 season and some even felt he might be the best player regardless of position. My how things can change in less than six months. After a terrible senior year in which he was outperformed by his teammate Charles Johnson and may have had a case of senioritis it appears that Moses' draft stock is plummeting and unless he can really impress scouts between now and April there's a chance he could fall a lot further than this. There is no denying his natural athleticism (he's a former basketball player for the Dawgs) and ability though and if he can find a way to revert to the form he showed in 2005 some team could wind up with a steal on their hands. The Broncos have a bunch of solid guys at defensive end but still lack an impact player outside so at this point in Round 1 a talent like Moses just may be worth a roll of the dice. As a top 10 pick I would hate him, a steal at #21 though b/c of his upside/potential. He has the frame/size, speed, and pass rush moves to become a 12-15 sack guy... does he have the heart?

22. DALLAS COWBOYS
REGGIE NELSON S | Florida

23. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
QUINN PITCOCK DT | Ohio St.

24. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (f/SEA)
MARCUS MCCAULEY CB | Fresno St.

25. NEW YORK JETS
DAYMEION HUGHES CB | California

26. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
MICHAEL GRIFFIN S | Texas

27. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
PAUL POSLUSZNY OLB | Penn St.

28. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
DWAYNE BOWE WR | L.S.U.

29. BALTIMORE RAVENS
JARVIS MOSS DE | Florida

30. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
SIDNEY RICE WR | South Carolina

31. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
PATRICK WILLIS ILB | Ole Miss

32. CHICAGO BEARS
JUSTIN BLALOCK OG | Texas

Steve Prefontaine · 01-16-2007, 11:47 AM

Can't argue with that pick, but I think I would prefer Reggie Nelson if he were available. I hope the Broncos can address some of their D-line needs in free agency so that they have more flexibility in the first round. I would love to add a playmaking safety like Nelson.

Broncoman13 · 01-16-2007, 12:03 PM

As would I, but if Moses is available at 21 the gamble is well worth it. Dude has a lot of athleticsm and can get after the QB. He had a down Sr. campaign, which is why he could drop. At the start of the season he was a potential top 5 pick. Very talented, just has questions that arrise from a lackluster final college season. Could be that he was playing scared. Could be that teams really game planned for him. Who knows?

What I do know is this. If we draft him at 21 there is still a very good chance that we get a guy like Brandon Meriweather in the 2nd round. Hell, even Ross in the 2nd round would be a good pick.

Also, don't rule out a trade up in the 2nd round. We haven't seen that one here for a while, but it makes a lot of sense. We could use our 3rd round pick and move up into the 40's and get a guy like Michael Bush (who is now expected to be the 4th or 5th RB taken). Give me a draft with Moses and Bush and anything else is gravy!

Imagine this. A little bit of pipe dreaming perhaps, but certainly possible.

Q. Moses
M. Bush (trade up, could even last to our current slot in the 2nd)
B. Meriweather (with the Skins 3rd rounder)

DE, RB, and Safety all addressed. A dream draft scenario but could likely play out that way too.

ludo21 · 01-16-2007, 12:19 PM

Moses would be SWEET!!!

We need a guy like that on this team.

NFLBRONCO · 01-16-2007, 12:27 PM

I think it would be nice for Denver to take a shot on a DL for once. I do like Nelson alot but, DL needs to be addressed.

Steve Prefontaine · 01-16-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan13

What I do know is this. If we draft him at 21 there is still a very good chance that we get a guy like Brandon Meriweather in the 2nd round. Hell, even Ross in the 2nd round would be a good pick.

Good point about Meriweather in the 2nd. Do you think he would fall to us in the 2nd round? He was also projected to be a 1st round pick a couple months back before the brawl.

Clockwork Orange · 01-16-2007, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoMan13

Q. Moses
M. Bush (trade up, could even last to our current slot in the 2nd)
B. Meriweather (with the Skins 3rd rounder)

I'd be thrilled with that draft.

Barry Ramey · 01-16-2007, 04:12 PM

Moses would be a good pick, providing he shows that good speed in workouts. They can still get a quality DT in the 2nd or even 3rd round.

The draft is where they need to address the DL. They have tried free agency and haven't gotten any top type DL, so I don't see how that would change next year. They could get a couple free agent types that don't command big money, but the Justin Smith stuff is just a dream people have.

Steve Prefontaine · 01-16-2007, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

The draft is where they need to address the DL. They have tried free agency and haven't gotten any top type DL, so I don't see how that would change next year.

It worked out pretty well signing Alfred Williams and Neil Smith. Just because they whiffed on same free agents in recent years, it doesn't mean it doesn't work. The Broncos can't address ALL their needs in the draft. There are going to be some free agents that have to contribute next year whether it is a RB, DE, or DT.

Drek · 01-16-2007, 04:45 PM

Colt Brennan to J-Ville? Like they don't already have two starting quality QBs.

Also if Johnson outplayed Moses this year, is younger, and is bigger why doesn't he go in the first round at all? And Bowe over Rice or even Samardjza for that matter?

Not bad as a whole, but its basically a bunch of consencus picks teamed with a few really questionable ones.

Barry Ramey · 01-16-2007, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ECBronco

It worked out pretty well signing Alfred Williams and Neil Smith. Just because they whiffed on same free agents in recent years, it doesn't mean it doesn't work. The Broncos can't address ALL their needs in the draft. There are going to be some free agents that have to contribute next year whether it is a RB, DE, or DT.

That was 10 years ago and they were older at the time and they came to win a Super Bowl. What top free agent DL is going to come cheaply? The Broncos have to start taking drafts more seriously and get legit future starters, especially in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds where they have whiffed way too often there lately.

Steve Prefontaine · 01-16-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

The Broncos have to start taking drafts more seriously and get legit future starters, especially in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds where they have whiffed way too often there lately.

You're right. I think the Broncos have been messing up the drafts on purpose. I love how some people think the draft is an exact science. No pressure...just make sure your the 1st through 4th round picks are starters. Every team besides the Broncos must do that year in and year out.

BTW...Marshall and Dumervil were both 4th rounders last year. Darrent and Foxworth were 2nd and 3rd round picks the year before.

epicSocialism4tw · 01-16-2007, 05:27 PM

I would love the Moses pick. He could part the red sea (Chiefs Oline) for us regularly.

His potential is that of Jason Taylor. I'll roll those dice.

Shanny and his team scout Georgia well, so our guys will have a firm grasp on Moses.

Killericon · 01-16-2007, 05:32 PM

Man...I can't wait for the combine to sort this mess out. Some Mocks have Okaye going below us, thsi one has him at #9, same story with Ted Ginn Jr.

I can't wait for the draft.

Rohirrim · 01-16-2007, 06:19 PM

Moses? Third round talent for a first round pick. I would want almost any of the guys still left on the board over that pick, especially Nelson or Bowe, both of whom I believe will be stars in the NFL. Just the kind of stupid gamble I would expect the Broncos to take. If you're going to gamble on somebody, gamble on Justin Harrell, DT, Tenn.

bpc · 01-16-2007, 06:20 PM

Tough to pass up Nelson. I haven't seen either of them play very much but from what I have seen, Nelson looks like difference maker with his big play ability and tenacity.

elsid13 · 01-16-2007, 06:23 PM

I can not wait for Shanahan to pick our future RT in the 1st round this year.

Come on you know that going to happen.

Hercules Rockefeller · 01-16-2007, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoMan13

Imagine this. A little bit of pipe dreaming perhaps, but certainly possible.

Q. Moses
M. Bush (trade up, could even last to our current slot in the 2nd)
B. Meriweather (with the Skins 3rd rounder)

Could last? I think at this point he almost certainly lasts to Denver's 2nd. Too many people are assuming he's going to be good to go at some point in the next few months to re-elevate his draft status after the broken leg. Not calling Kiper all-knowing, but the guy did just move Bush down to at least his 5th best RB in the draft after Jackson and Pittman declared yesterday.

Steve Prefontaine · 01-16-2007, 07:01 PM

If they don't land Lynch somehow, I would love the Broncos to grab Bush with their 2nd round pick. Nelson (or d-line) in the first, Bush in the 2nd, and spend the 2 3rd round picks on d-line.

SoCalBronco · 01-16-2007, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Moses? Third round talent for a first round pick. .

That sounds about right for a Shanny odd numbered year draft.

chaz · 01-16-2007, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ECBronco

If they don't land Lynch somehow, I would love the Broncos to grab Bush with their 2nd round pick. Nelson (or d-line) in the first, Bush in the 2nd, and spend the 2 3rd round picks on d-line.

thats what i think too...if we cant get one of the top two RB's grab someone like Carriker or Okoye for DL or Nelson at S...personally i would rather go with KL in round one because i REALLY REALLY like Wendling in the second round.

Broncoman13 · 01-17-2007, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drek

Colt Brennan to J-Ville? Like they don't already have two starting quality QBs.

Also if Johnson outplayed Moses this year, is younger, and is bigger why doesn't he go in the first round at all? And Bowe over Rice or even Samardjza for that matter?

Not bad as a whole, but its basically a bunch of consencus picks teamed with a few really questionable ones.

I thought the same thing until the rumors of Lefty's pending release started swirling. Personally, I think it's way early for Colt, but crazy things happen in the draft. I think it's more likely they go after a guy like Landry, Griffin, or even Reggie Nelson with that pick.

Broncoman13 · 01-17-2007, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Moses? Third round talent for a first round pick. I would want almost any of the guys still left on the board over that pick, especially Nelson or Bowe, both of whom I believe will be stars in the NFL. Just the kind of stupid gamble I would expect the Broncos to take. If you're going to gamble on somebody, gamble on Justin Harrell, DT, Tenn.

Moses and third round talent? I think you're thinking of somebody else. This guy is just as talented as Gaines Adams and perhaps even more athletic. He mailed in his senior year or we wouldn't have a chance at him at all. 6'5" 265 # DE's with good speed and agility aren't exactly 3rd round talents.

Rohirrim · 01-17-2007, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoMan13

Moses and third round talent? I think you're thinking of somebody else. This guy is just as talented as Gaines Adams and perhaps even more athletic. He mailed in his senior year or we wouldn't have a chance at him at all. 6'5" 265 # DE's with good speed and agility aren't exactly 3rd round talents.

Maybe I shouldn't have said "talent." How about a third round heart? Once he gets that first round NFL paycheck, that "mail" is going to get more and more frequent. Junk mail, IMO.

Hopefully, the Chefs pick him.

Broncoman13 · 01-17-2007, 10:37 AM

If the Chefs pick him we're in trouble for a lot of years to come. Tamba Hali and Q. Moses as bookends wouldn't bode well for the AFC West.

Also keep in mind that Moses was constantly game planned for his Sr. Year. His counterparts along the DLine all benefited from his presence alone. Similar to a guy like Manny Lawson last year who benefitted greatly from Mario Williams chasing guys right into his arms.

Passing on Q. Moses at 21 would be a mistake for us. The guy is another Mathias Kiwanuka type. Long, athletic, plays faster than his 4.7 speed would indicate, and already has a bunch of pass rushing moves. Think of Elvis Dumervil with size.

01-16-2007, 10:48 AM	#1
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,962 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	New Mock from DraftCountDown 1. OAKLAND RAIDERS JAMARCUS RUSSELL QB \| L.S.U. 2. DETROIT LIONS JOE THOMAS OT \| Wisconsin 3. CLEVELAND BROWNS BRADY QUINN QB \| Notre Dame 4. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS CALVIN JOHNSON WR \| Georgia Tech 5. ARIZONA CARDINALS ALAN BRANCH DT \| Michigan 6. WASHINGTON REDSKINS GAINES ADAMS DE \| Clemson 7. MINNESOTA VIKINGS JAMAAL ANDERSON DE \| Arkansas 8. HOUSTON TEXANS ADRIAN PETERSON RB \| Oklahoma 9. MIAMI DOLPHINS AMOBI OKOYE DT \| Louisville 10. ATLANTA FALCONS LEON HALL CB \| Michigan 11. SAN FRANCISCO 49'ERS TED GINN, JR. WR \| Ohio St. 12. BUFFALO BILLS LEVI BROWN OT \| Penn St. 13. ST. LOUIS RAMS LAWRENCE TIMMONS OLB \| Florida St. 14. CAROLINA PANTHERS LARON LANDRY 15. PITTSBURGH STEELERS ADAM CARRIKER DE 16. GREEN BAY PACKERS MARSHAWN LYNCH RB \| California 17. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS COLT BRENNAN QB \| Hawaii 18. CINCINNATI BENGALS DEMARCUS TYLER DT \| North Carolina St. 19. TENNESSEE TITANS DWAYNE JARRETT WR \| USC 20. NEW YORK GIANTS DARRELLE REVIS CB \| Pittsburgh 21. DENVER BRONCOS QUENTIN MOSES DE \| Georgia \| Scouting Report Coming off a great junior season Quentin Moses was widely regarded to be one of the premier senior prospects prior to the 2006 season and some even felt he might be the best player regardless of position. My how things can change in less than six months. After a terrible senior year in which he was outperformed by his teammate Charles Johnson and may have had a case of senioritis it appears that Moses' draft stock is plummeting and unless he can really impress scouts between now and April there's a chance he could fall a lot further than this. There is no denying his natural athleticism (he's a former basketball player for the Dawgs) and ability though and if he can find a way to revert to the form he showed in 2005 some team could wind up with a steal on their hands. The Broncos have a bunch of solid guys at defensive end but still lack an impact player outside so at this point in Round 1 a talent like Moses just may be worth a roll of the dice. As a top 10 pick I would hate him, a steal at #21 though b/c of his upside/potential. He has the frame/size, speed, and pass rush moves to become a 12-15 sack guy... does he have the heart? 22. DALLAS COWBOYS REGGIE NELSON S \| Florida 23. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS QUINN PITCOCK DT \| Ohio St. 24. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (f/SEA) MARCUS MCCAULEY CB \| Fresno St. 25. NEW YORK JETS DAYMEION HUGHES CB \| California 26. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES MICHAEL GRIFFIN S \| Texas 27. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS PAUL POSLUSZNY OLB \| Penn St. 28. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS DWAYNE BOWE WR \| L.S.U. 29. BALTIMORE RAVENS JARVIS MOSS DE \| Florida 30. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS SIDNEY RICE WR \| South Carolina 31. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS PATRICK WILLIS ILB \| Ole Miss 32. CHICAGO BEARS JUSTIN BLALOCK OG \| Texas

01-16-2007, 06:19 PM	#15
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 49,109	Moses? Third round talent for a first round pick. I would want almost any of the guys still left on the board over that pick, especially Nelson or Bowe, both of whom I believe will be stars in the NFL. Just the kind of stupid gamble I would expect the Broncos to take. If you're going to gamble on somebody, gamble on Justin Harrell, DT, Tenn. Last edited by Rohirrim; 01-16-2007 at 06:33 PM..

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elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,139	I can not wait for Shanahan to pick our future RT in the 1st round this year. Come on you know that going to happen. Last edited by elsid13; 01-16-2007 at 06:28 PM..

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01-16-2007, 11:47 AM	#2
Steve Prefontaine Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,289 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Can't argue with that pick, but I think I would prefer Reggie Nelson if he were available. I hope the Broncos can address some of their D-line needs in free agency so that they have more flexibility in the first round. I would love to add a playmaking safety like Nelson.

01-16-2007, 12:03 PM	#3
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,962 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	As would I, but if Moses is available at 21 the gamble is well worth it. Dude has a lot of athleticsm and can get after the QB. He had a down Sr. campaign, which is why he could drop. At the start of the season he was a potential top 5 pick. Very talented, just has questions that arrise from a lackluster final college season. Could be that he was playing scared. Could be that teams really game planned for him. Who knows? What I do know is this. If we draft him at 21 there is still a very good chance that we get a guy like Brandon Meriweather in the 2nd round. Hell, even Ross in the 2nd round would be a good pick. Also, don't rule out a trade up in the 2nd round. We haven't seen that one here for a while, but it makes a lot of sense. We could use our 3rd round pick and move up into the 40's and get a guy like Michael Bush (who is now expected to be the 4th or 5th RB taken). Give me a draft with Moses and Bush and anything else is gravy! Imagine this. A little bit of pipe dreaming perhaps, but certainly possible. Q. Moses M. Bush (trade up, could even last to our current slot in the 2nd) B. Meriweather (with the Skins 3rd rounder) DE, RB, and Safety all addressed. A dream draft scenario but could likely play out that way too.

01-16-2007, 12:19 PM	#4
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,978 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Moses would be SWEET!!! We need a guy like that on this team.

01-16-2007, 12:27 PM	#5
NFLBRONCO Ring of Famer Go Nuggets Go Lakers Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lafayette Colorado Posts: 7,428	I think it would be nice for Denver to take a shot on a DL for once. I do like Nelson alot but, DL needs to be addressed.

01-16-2007, 04:12 PM	#8
Barry Ramey Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,700	Moses would be a good pick, providing he shows that good speed in workouts. They can still get a quality DT in the 2nd or even 3rd round. The draft is where they need to address the DL. They have tried free agency and haven't gotten any top type DL, so I don't see how that would change next year. They could get a couple free agent types that don't command big money, but the Justin Smith stuff is just a dream people have.

01-16-2007, 04:45 PM	#10
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,359	Colt Brennan to J-Ville? Like they don't already have two starting quality QBs. Also if Johnson outplayed Moses this year, is younger, and is bigger why doesn't he go in the first round at all? And Bowe over Rice or even Samardjza for that matter? Not bad as a whole, but its basically a bunch of consencus picks teamed with a few really questionable ones.

01-16-2007, 05:27 PM	#13
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	I would love the Moses pick. He could part the red sea (Chiefs Oline) for us regularly. His potential is that of Jason Taylor. I'll roll those dice. Shanny and his team scout Georgia well, so our guys will have a firm grasp on Moses.

01-16-2007, 05:32 PM	#14
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	Man...I can't wait for the combine to sort this mess out. Some Mocks have Okaye going below us, thsi one has him at #9, same story with Ted Ginn Jr. I can't wait for the draft.

01-16-2007, 06:20 PM	#16
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,580 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Tough to pass up Nelson. I haven't seen either of them play very much but from what I have seen, Nelson looks like difference maker with his big play ability and tenacity.

01-16-2007, 07:01 PM	#19
Steve Prefontaine Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,289 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	If they don't land Lynch somehow, I would love the Broncos to grab Bush with their 2nd round pick. Nelson (or d-line) in the first, Bush in the 2nd, and spend the 2 3rd round picks on d-line.

01-17-2007, 10:37 AM	#25
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,962 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	If the Chefs pick him we're in trouble for a lot of years to come. Tamba Hali and Q. Moses as bookends wouldn't bode well for the AFC West. Also keep in mind that Moses was constantly game planned for his Sr. Year. His counterparts along the DLine all benefited from his presence alone. Similar to a guy like Manny Lawson last year who benefitted greatly from Mario Williams chasing guys right into his arms. Passing on Q. Moses at 21 would be a mistake for us. The guy is another Mathias Kiwanuka type. Long, athletic, plays faster than his 4.7 speed would indicate, and already has a bunch of pass rushing moves. Think of Elvis Dumervil with size.