Linux: RHEL 4 AS

[Garcia Bronco]

Anybody got knowledge of this OS? I'm finding the whole idea of Linux worthless, but I am new at it. It seems like a PITA version of windows.

[hades]

I've never been a big Linux fan, but I do like Unix. I know, I know they are pretty much the same.....

[Garcia Bronco]

I have never used UNIX either. I don't mind command line management.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Anybody got knowledge of this OS? I'm finding the whole idea of Linux worthless, but I am new at it. It seems like a PITA version of windows.

Linux doesn't work in the Windows world because of the lack of software support. I used Ubuntu for awhile but couldn't run very many of the programs I needed to. I find it ironic that Apple offers Windows compatible machines now too.

[Play2win]

I don't know about that...


But, I am getting an iPhone...

[alkemical]

Actually for you MAC fans -

The mac is really a "skin" that's running on a linux core....

Linux is fine you have to be a power user to make it work for you. Yes there can be some software support that isn't on a linux machine so to speak - but there isn't to say there aren't ways around it. (For instance i run VMware - i have two linux sessions, a windows session, a mac session for example) - so i can just "jump" to whatever i want/use.

I'm still learning it all too - i just have a UNIX admin that i can ask for help when i get stuck.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Linux doesn't work in the Windows world because of the lack of software support. I used Ubuntu for awhile but couldn't run very many of the programs I needed to. I find it ironic that Apple offers Windows compatible machines now too.

You can get support...but you'll have to pay for it.

First goofy thing about this OS is every time I restart the system I have to go turn on the NIC.

I have installed programs but can't find them in the apps list.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Actually for you MAC fans -

The mac is really a "skin" that's running on a linux core....

Linux is fine you have to be a power user to make it work for you. Yes there can be some software support that isn't on a linux machine so to speak - but there isn't to say there aren't ways around it. (For instance i run VMware - i have two linux sessions, a windows session, a mac session for example) - so i can just "jump" to whatever i want/use.

I'm still learning it all too - i just have a UNIX admin that i can ask for help when i get stuck.

Hook me up Hobbles.......haha....what do I need to know

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Hook me up Hobbles.......haha....what do I need to know

This helped me

[Garcia Bronco]

I browsed the Linux version of that book, but it doesn't look like it's going to tell me all that much.

[chawknz]

Mac OS X has nothing to do with Linux. It is based off of BSD which is a different type of Unix. Bananas and Oranges are both fruits, but they're not the same.

Linux is good depending on what you want to do. If you do mostly internet activities, it's great. Most anything you can do in Windows you can do in Linux. The only problem with it is that in order to do those things, expect a lot of work setting it up and getting configured. Another thing that's rough going is multimedia.

Linux has come a long way over the years, but there is still a high learning curve when it comes to getting simple things done and working. Ubuntu is a great place to start as a lot of things work out of the box. Not to mention a huge user base that's generally willing to help each other out.

The great thing about Mac OS X is what they were able to accomplish with a Unix foundation. They made a consumer friendly OS based off of Unix, something that the Linux world has been trying (and failing) to do for years.
It's only a matter of time before Linux catches up, but I may be completely grey in the head before that happens.

Linux is definitley not worthless. It just all boils down to what you like and what you want to do with it. Just do some research out on Google. There's a lot of great resources available.

[Rock Chalk]

Linux is great for uber computer geeks that hate Microsoft.

For most people, Microsoft is just fine (or, in the case of Mac users, Mac's various OS's).

If you are not a computer geek thats relatively chubby, has no life and no girlfriend. Judging by your avatar Jay, Id say Linux is right up your alley

Linux is probably not for you on your desktop or laptop computer. If you run a server, Linux is probably the best way to go however. Provided you can handle any problems on your own and dont need outside support to help you through any issues that do come up.

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I browsed the Linux version of that book, but it doesn't look like it's going to tell me all that much.

It helped me with learning about all sorts of commands and functions - that's how i got started.

And yes i did incorrectly cite the macOS is on linux - i didn't feel the need to break down free BSD, etc for people that will not really get the differences.



I don't know what you need garcia - so i tried to point you in a direction that helped me.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Alec

Linux is great for uber computer geeks that hate Microsoft.

For most people, Microsoft is just fine (or, in the case of Mac users, Mac's various OS's).

If you are not a computer geek thats relatively chubby, has no life and no girlfriend. Judging by your avatar Jay, Id say Linux is right up your alley

Linux is probably not for you on your desktop or laptop computer. If you run a server, Linux is probably the best way to go however. Provided you can handle any problems on your own and dont need outside support to help you through any issues that do come up.

God Damit...I am not chubby...I am in the dead cold of winter wearing 8 layers of cloths in that picture.

[Rock Chalk]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

God Damit...I am not chubby...I am in the dead cold of winter wearing 8 layers of cloths in that picture.

Sure...


ya fat bastard

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Alec

Sure...


ya fat bastard

Let me tell you something sonny-jim....I ate a wee woman.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Here's shot of my desktop using Windows Vista (Ultimate Edition).
Still finding my way around in this.

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[Ray_Lewis'_Victim]

I'm running linux mint right now, which is ubuntu with all the proprietary codecs (wmv, flash, etc) built in and I LOVE IT. It was the most "tweak free" distribution I've used, great out of the box support.

Give it a look if you're in the *nix market.

[Garcia Bronco]

Well...I'm using this for a business need not for personal use.

[scorpio]

I'm a linux/unix admin for a living. What do you want to know? If you're just trying to get your feet wet, here's what you do:

1. find a crappy old Pentium 3 computer
2. Download a Gentoo Linux install iso and burn it
3. Follow the instructions in the Gentoo handbook exactly
4. Forget about that GUI **** if you actually want to make it do something useful; the power of *nix is in the command line.
6. If you are too stupid to use it, do not whine about how it sucks.

That's all.


http://www.gentoo.org

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by scorpio

I'm a linux/unix admin for a living. What do you want to know? If you're just trying to get your feet wet, here's what you do:

1. find a crappy old Pentium 3 computer
2. Download a Gentoo Linux install iso and burn it
3. Follow the instructions in the Gentoo handbook exactly
4. Forget about that GUI **** if you actually want to make it do something useful; the power of *nix is in the command line.
6. If you are too stupid to use it, do not whine about how it sucks.

That's all.


http://www.gentoo.org

It's not that people are too stupid to learn Linux it's the fact that it isn't user friendly and most people don't have the time or want to take the time to learn something that is considered "moving backwards". That is why a lot of the Linux releases are going GUI.

[Rock Chalk]

Originally Posted by scorpio

I'm a linux/unix admin for a living. What do you want to know? If you're just trying to get your feet wet, here's what you do:

1. find a crappy old Pentium 3 computer
2. Download a Gentoo Linux install iso and burn it
3. Follow the instructions in the Gentoo handbook exactly
4. Forget about that GUI **** if you actually want to make it do something useful; the power of *nix is in the command line.
6. If you are too stupid to use it, do not whine about how it sucks.

That's all.


http://www.gentoo.org

Doing something useful should not be complex and should not take a lot of time. Doing anything in command line for most people is complex and will take a lot of time so if thats the only way you can do anything useful with *nix, then its ****ing worthless.

Im not too stupid to use it, and I will still whine about how much it sucks. Linux is for geeks that cant get laid and have nothing better to do with their time than play around in command line interfaces from the 1970s.

[Wes Mantooth]

rh is dead. Go with sles

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by Alec

Doing something useful should not be complex and should not take a lot of time. Doing anything in command line for most people is complex and will take a lot of time so if thats the only way you can do anything useful with *nix, then its ****ing worthless.

Im not too stupid to use it, and I will still whine about how much it sucks. Linux is for geeks that cant get laid and have nothing better to do with their time than play around in command line interfaces from the 1970s.

BULL****!


Dude - i get paid MAD money to know how to run command line for Mainframes - and let me tell you - it's not inefficient for everything/anything.

it's also why running command line "burning" apps save about 1/3-1/2 the time via it's windows componants on the same exact machine.

Sorry bud - it's not going away on the enterprise level.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by scorpio

I'm a linux/unix admin for a living. What do you want to know? If you're just trying to get your feet wet, here's what you do:

1. find a crappy old Pentium 3 computer
2. Download a Gentoo Linux install iso and burn it
3. Follow the instructions in the Gentoo handbook exactly
4. Forget about that GUI **** if you actually want to make it do something useful; the power of *nix is in the command line.
6. If you are too stupid to use it, do not whine about how it sucks.

That's all.


http://www.gentoo.org

I am building out about 10 servers with a mix of RHEL 4 32 and 64 to go in high density rows in a datacenter for an existing application as a redundant system. I installed the GUI as well. It just doesn't have the polish of windows, but it's open source. And pretty good for open source.

I build networks...I don't support them. Admins don't work until I make it so they can.