Baltimore Ravens DC Rex Ryan: "Trevor Pryce Best Def. Player In Football This Year" - The Orange Mane

GonzoLays · 01-05-2007, 04:22 PM

Here are the grades, and Baltimore's Trevor Pryce was off the chart as you can see. Rex Ryan, who coaches the Ravens' defense, told me he was the best defensive player in football this year. "He can do it all," Ryan said, "except get picked to the Pro Bowl." Naturally, they stiffed him. By the way, a lower grade does not in any way mean I'm downgrading the player. The guys listed are my finalists, the ones I thought were the best.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ll.pros/2.html

He had 13 sacks this season? 13 ****ing sacks? Are you kidding me? We let go of a 6'5", 290 pound DE who had 13 sacks? WTF

Killericon · 01-05-2007, 04:27 PM

Pro Bowl? Yes.

All-Pro? No.

Defensive Player of the Year?

Kaylore · 01-05-2007, 04:31 PM

Pryce played well. Good for him. And I have no problem with a team's staff pimping their own players.

GonzoLays · 01-05-2007, 04:34 PM

It is moves like this that must make our front office cringe. Here you have teams trading 1st round picks to pick up guys like John Abraham because getting pressure on the QB is at a premium in this league and the Broncos just let go of a four time probowler for free. And not only do they let go of him for free, he jacks up 13 sacks for his new team.

That is incompetence. Period.

-Slap- · 01-05-2007, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoLays

Here are the grades, and Baltimore's Trevor Pryce was off the chart as you can see. Rex Ryan, who coaches the Ravens' defense, told me he was the best defensive player in football this year. "He can do it all," Ryan said, "except get picked to the Pro Bowl." Naturally, they stiffed him. By the way, a lower grade does not in any way mean I'm downgrading the player. The guys listed are my finalists, the ones I thought were the best.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ll.pros/2.html

He had 13 sacks this season? 13 ****ing sacks? Are you kidding me? We let go of a 6'5", 290 pound DE who had 13 sacks? WTF

Isn't it great when our own so-called fans pretend to be as stupid as the douchebags in the national media.

Hey, Gonzadouche, that bonghitting peckerhead made it clear he didn't want to play here anymore. Maybe you didn't notice him sleepwalking through his last couple seasons in Denver. Should the Broncos have brought you in to give him daily rimjobs to change his mind?

watermock · 01-05-2007, 04:42 PM

9 million for someone that was acting like an ass?

TheDave · 01-05-2007, 04:42 PM

Figures, he leaves here and puts up one of his best years.... Maybe there is something to the whole "scheme" argument that we here from time to time.

Conklin · 01-05-2007, 04:42 PM

even more ignorant is him sitting here and calling pryce a DE, he wouldn't move to tackle for us...and @ de, he wasnt getting pressure worth ****...many noted he'd be a great tackle if he'd move back, but he WOULDN'T. he only moved to tackle when he switched teams. He'd have had his normal foster like games here had he stayed and played DE for us

crush17 · 01-05-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

Isn't it great when our own so-called fans pretend to be as stupid as the douchebags in the national media.

Hey, Gonzadouche, that bonghitting peckerhead made it clear he didn't want to play here anymore. Maybe you didn't notice him sleepwalking through his last couple seasons in Denver. Should the Broncos have brought you in to give him daily rimjobs to change his mind?

lol

simply awesome reply.

GonzoLays · 01-05-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

Isn't it great when our own so-called fans pretend to be as stupid as the douchebags in the national media.

Hey, Gonzadouche, that bonghitting peckerhead made it clear he didn't want to play here anymore. Maybe you didn't notice him sleepwalking through his last couple seasons in Denver. Should the Broncos have brought you in to give him daily rimjobs to change his mind?

You know, I would drop to down to your level and call you a childish name or two, but I will stick to football for now.

How in the heck do you know that Pryce wanted out? Did he come out to the media with it? Stop making stuff up. I think you are confusing a terrible scheme + a back injury for guy not wanting to be in Denver anymore. He has been here is whole career, loves the area, built a house and wants to retire here but he wanted to leave? Yea, that makes complete sense.

Sleepwalking through his last couple of seasons? Could it have been the system? Its not as if Larry Coyer is known for getting pressure on the QB with his d-line. I think Pryce put it as, "he wants us to be blocking dummies."

Killericon · 01-05-2007, 04:48 PM

Perhaps playing on a defensive line where he wasn't the main guy helped. Maybe.

Just a guess.

bloodsunday · 01-05-2007, 04:49 PM

The awards part is pretty speculative IMO.

Trevor had a great season and his versatility to play inside and outside is valuable. Any anyone that watched our DL play this season has to be a bit sad we let him go. The salary cap wasn't even an issue once we got the bump from the league and the new CBA.

watermock · 01-05-2007, 04:51 PM

To assert the cap wasn't an issue is absurd. We didn't even bother trying to trade him.

Jens1893 · 01-05-2007, 04:51 PM

Who says he would have done the same for us? Based on his production in 2005 the decision to dump him and not pay him the 9m was right.

RhymesayersDU · 01-05-2007, 04:56 PM

ROFL @ Daily rimjobs for Trevor Pryce. Pure awesomeness.

bloodsunday · 01-05-2007, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoLays

How in the heck do you know that Pryce wanted out? Did he come out to the media with it? Stop making stuff up. I think you are confusing a terrible scheme + a back injury for guy not wanting to be in Denver anymore. He has been here is whole career, loves the area, built a house and wants to retire here but he wanted to leave? Yea, that makes complete sense.

To be fair I have heard media speculation -- mostly among the likes of Krieger and the 950 the fan crew -- that Shanny and Trevor didn't see eye-to-eye. The Broncos allegedly questioned his commitment to football after he started his record business. It's not really that surprising that anyone would disagree with Shanny. In fact I would be shocked if every guy on that team loves Shanny as he is a polarizing personality.

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Originally Posted by GonzoLays

Sleepwalking through his last couple of seasons? Could it have been the system? Its not as if Larry Coyer is known for getting pressure on the QB with his d-line. I think Pryce put it as, "he wants us to be blocking dummies."

The argument by the members of the DL was that they were forced to play assignment football last year because of all the blitzing. This year we were gonna turn the DL loose a little more with stunts and what not -- a DL man's dream. So, I agree with your point. I wonder what this season could have held for Trevor if he stayed. I would have especially liked to have him rushing from the DT position on passing downs as Warren is a sissy.

bloodsunday · 01-05-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock

To assert the cap wasn't an issue is absurd. We didn't even bother trying to trade him.

He was cut at a rather curious time -- BEFORE the new CBA. The league did not expect to get a jump in cap space and Trevor was an easy victim to save a ton of money. That's at least part of the reason the deal went down that way. I think had they waited until the CBA got sorted out they may have tried to do something else like work out a restructure or trade him.

Rock Chalk · 01-05-2007, 04:59 PM

Let's see, Pryce goes on to have 13 sacks. Why? Why does he succeed in Baltimore but was a complete bust under Coyer?

Gee, maybe our DC really does suck.

GonzoLays · 01-05-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crush17

lol

simply awesome reply.

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Originally Posted by rhymesayersdu

ROFL @ Daily rimjobs for Trevor Pryce. Pure awesomeness.

Damn, that quote got you boys all excited didn't it.

huh, huh, he said rimjob, huh, huh

Good grief.

-Slap- · 01-05-2007, 05:03 PM

The guy plays hard when he wants to play hard. Period.

He'll be dogging it in Baltimore, too, just as soon as somebody there does something to hurt his feelings.

GonzoLays · 01-05-2007, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodsunday

The argument by the members of the DL was that they were forced to play assignment football last year because of all the blitzing. This year we were gonna turn the DL loose a little more with stunts and what not -- a DL man's dream. So, I agree with your point. I wonder what this season could have held for Trevor if he stayed. I would have especially liked to have him rushing from the DT position on passing downs as Warren is a sissy.

In professional football, you don't let go of premium d-linemen until they want to retire. It is not as if Pryce (who is only 30 years old) came out nowhere with this season. He was, after all, a four time pro-bowler. And his release is especially troubling considering our biggest deficiency is pass rushing. That is just straight up incompetence on the part of the front office.

Popps · 01-05-2007, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDave

Figures, he leaves here and puts up one of his best years.... Maybe there is something to the whole "scheme" argument that we here from time to time.

THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!! STOP IT!!!!

-Slap- · 01-05-2007, 05:05 PM

Have fun, troll.

This is going to be great. Now all the people who constantly shithammered Trevor while he was here - under different defensive coordinators mind you - are going to bemoan his loss now.

Its amazing some of these people can even sit upright at a computer and post this drivel without any discernable backbone.

bloodsunday · 01-05-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoLays

In professional football, you don't let go of premium d-linemen until they want to retire. It is not as if Pryce (who is only 30 years old) came out nowhere with this season. He was, after all, a four time pro-bowler. And his release is especially troubling considering our biggest deficiency is pass rushing. That is just straight up incompetence on the part of the front office.

I agree. The released him before the CBA got sorted out when it looked like they might need the cap room. But they were one of the first teams to make cuts. They clearly should have waited it out, IMO.

The fact that it was a weak spot on our roster is definitely the most troubling part. What's worse, one has to conclude that they didn't believe the DL would be a problem or they likely wouldn't have done it. I think they honestly thought that Warren and crew were gonna get it done. That's what's scare to me.

DBroncos4life · 01-05-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!! STOP IT!!!!

Our scheme sucks.

01-05-2007, 04:22 PM	#1
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	Baltimore Ravens DC Rex Ryan: "Trevor Pryce Best Def. Player In Football This Year" Here are the grades, and Baltimore's Trevor Pryce was off the chart as you can see. Rex Ryan, who coaches the Ravens' defense, told me he was the best defensive player in football this year. "He can do it all," Ryan said, "except get picked to the Pro Bowl." Naturally, they stiffed him. By the way, a lower grade does not in any way mean I'm downgrading the player. The guys listed are my finalists, the ones I thought were the best. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ll.pros/2.html He had 13 sacks this season? 13 ****ing sacks? Are you kidding me? We let go of a 6'5", 290 pound DE who had 13 sacks? WTF

01-05-2007, 05:05 PM	#23
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Have fun, troll. This is going to be great. Now all the people who constantly shithammered Trevor while he was here - under different defensive coordinators mind you - are going to bemoan his loss now. Its amazing some of these people can even sit upright at a computer and post this drivel without any discernable backbone. Last edited by -Slap-; 01-05-2007 at 05:09 PM..

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01-05-2007, 04:27 PM	#2
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	Pro Bowl? Yes. All-Pro? No. Defensive Player of the Year?

01-05-2007, 04:31 PM	#3
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,073 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Pryce played well. Good for him. And I have no problem with a team's staff pimping their own players.

01-05-2007, 04:34 PM	#4
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	It is moves like this that must make our front office cringe. Here you have teams trading 1st round picks to pick up guys like John Abraham because getting pressure on the QB is at a premium in this league and the Broncos just let go of a four time probowler for free. And not only do they let go of him for free, he jacks up 13 sacks for his new team. That is incompetence. Period.

01-05-2007, 04:42 PM	#6
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	9 million for someone that was acting like an ass?

01-05-2007, 04:42 PM	#7
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	Figures, he leaves here and puts up one of his best years.... Maybe there is something to the whole "scheme" argument that we here from time to time.

01-05-2007, 04:42 PM	#8
Conklin Outrant, Outlose, Out2nd Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City, Misery Posts: 2,658	even more ignorant is him sitting here and calling pryce a DE, he wouldn't move to tackle for us...and @ de, he wasnt getting pressure worth ****...many noted he'd be a great tackle if he'd move back, but he WOULDN'T. he only moved to tackle when he switched teams. He'd have had his normal foster like games here had he stayed and played DE for us

01-05-2007, 04:48 PM	#11
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	Perhaps playing on a defensive line where he wasn't the main guy helped. Maybe. Just a guess.

01-05-2007, 04:49 PM	#12
bloodsunday Ring of Famer Nothing lasts forever. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dove Valley Posts: 5,839 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	The awards part is pretty speculative IMO. Trevor had a great season and his versatility to play inside and outside is valuable. Any anyone that watched our DL play this season has to be a bit sad we let him go. The salary cap wasn't even an issue once we got the bump from the league and the new CBA.

01-05-2007, 04:51 PM	#13
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	To assert the cap wasn't an issue is absurd. We didn't even bother trying to trade him.

01-05-2007, 04:51 PM	#14
Jens1893 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: People´s Republic of Bad Cannstatt Posts: 9,170	Who says he would have done the same for us? Based on his production in 2005 the decision to dump him and not pay him the 9m was right.

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RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,813 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	ROFL @ Daily rimjobs for Trevor Pryce. Pure awesomeness.

01-05-2007, 04:59 PM	#18
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Let's see, Pryce goes on to have 13 sacks. Why? Why does he succeed in Baltimore but was a complete bust under Coyer? Gee, maybe our DC really does suck.

01-05-2007, 05:03 PM	#20
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	The guy plays hard when he wants to play hard. Period. He'll be dogging it in Baltimore, too, just as soon as somebody there does something to hurt his feelings.