2007 Draft Thoughts - The Orange Mane

Tombstone RJ · 01-02-2007, 11:12 PM

Let me first start off by saying that Darrent Williams will be missed for sure. Living here in Oklahoma, there is alot of talk amongst people about what a great person he was, and what an exciting player he was for Oklahoma State. There's no doubt, he left a positive imprint on the Oklahoma State football and fan community.

I don't think there's anything else that I can say that hasn't already been said or expressed by various posters here on the Mane. Darrent was a one-of-a kind person.

I think the only silver lining in this whole tragedy is that I do not think the Broncos will need to spend a first day pick on a CB because that darn 2005 draft when Shanny loaded up on CB talent. No one except for God could have possibly known that DW's life would be cut short so soon. However, due to Shanahan's over indulgence in the 2005 draft on the defensive secondary, I don't think drafting another CB is really necessary on the first day for this upcoming draft.

With that being said, who should the Broncos now consider for the upcoming draft?

I'm all for getting defensive line help. The Broncos need a pass rush and the defensive line is not getting consistent pressure on the QB.

However, what I really want the Broncos to do is trade up on the first day and draft Adrian Peterson out of the University of Oklahoma. If the Broncos can get a dominating RB to go with a great young QB, they will be set to make a serious run at the SB.

As for the offensive line, demote Foster to a permanent backup, move Pears to RT, and when Lepsis comes back, he'll be at LT. Keep Meadows in the mix too. As for the interior of the line, I think its fine with the young guys that the Broncos drafted last year.

And as for the defensive line, perhaps FA is the best way to solve the pass rushing woes. Just a thought.

Anyhow, I haven't been posting much lately, haven't had the time. Just thought I'd throw my two cents in about the draft.

RIP Darrent, you were a good young man.

ludo21 · 01-02-2007, 11:23 PM

Lynch

or trade up for one of the top DL.

or

BPA

penguintheory · 01-03-2007, 12:08 AM

Marshawn Lynch will be a top-15 pick - if we're going to trade up that high I wouldn't want anyone but AD. That being said, will Michael Bush fall due to his early season-ending injury?

ludo21 · 01-03-2007, 12:12 AM

I heard Bush was going to stay in.

SoCalBronco · 01-03-2007, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

I heard Bush was going to stay in.

I really hope that is not true. Please enter the draft, Michael!

maven · 01-03-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

I heard Bush was going to stay in.

True, he could take a medical redshirt and return another year. Depending on how rehab is going will decide his draft decision. If he is slow to recover, makes sense to return to Louisville.

Rascal · 01-03-2007, 12:23 AM

I'd rather get a RB in the second and get a uber stud DT in the first. Move up and get Alan Branch or Okoye, Pitcock (size concerns though), or Tyler.

Rascal · 01-03-2007, 12:26 AM

It was disgusting to watch our DT's in Warren and Myers get pushed aside like chumps and then their offguard blast Wilson every play this season. And then on pass rush they barely moved off the LOS.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 01-03-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by maven

True, he could take a medical redshirt and return another year. Depending on how rehab is going will decide his draft decision. If he is slow to recover, makes sense to return to Louisville.

But if he does, he will have to split time with those three other good Louisville backs. His draft status will drop. I like players to stay in school, but he will be drafted higher in 2007 than 2008. His injury was much less severe tha McGahee.

maven · 01-03-2007, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Guy

But if he does, he will have to split time with those three other good Louisville backs. His draft status will drop. I like players to stay in school, but he will be drafted higher in 2007 than 2008. His injury was much less severe tha McGahee.

Mcgahee had 0 snaps his rookie year. I don't think we'll ever see anything like that again. The shark, the massive reps by Mcgahee on his pro-day. It was a debacle that worked.

Michael Bush had 128 yards and 3 TD's by mid 3rd Q. He was on fire and was going to have a huge day. Then his tibia broke and all was lost. If he cannot get ready by the combine or his pro day, he'll head back to college.

phisig150 · 01-03-2007, 02:19 AM

I say go with the best saftey available. Hopefully Griffin.

Clockwork Orange · 01-03-2007, 02:26 AM

There are a lot of attractive options and I generally change my mind about 8000 times before draft day, but right now I'm leaning this way.

Put this monster at one guard with Kuper at the other. Now we're talking about guys who can clear a path to the end zone.

Paladin · 01-03-2007, 02:28 AM

Just need three positions: DE/DT, RB, and S. After that, DE/DT and whatever.......

fontaine · 01-03-2007, 06:25 AM

The Broncos D is going to need some help this offseason.

We are undersized at LB and teams clearly went 3/4 wide on us almost all the time in the 2nd half when Ferguson/Brandon went down. Given our nickel package in rushing the QB consists of Ekuban switching inside, well then that means we have 3 DEs and one DT in our front four when we have to generate pass rush from a nickel look.

This just may be the smallest and lightest defense in the NFL. Maybe the Colts are lighter but I can't think of any other team with a smaller nickel package from the front four back. It works if you have guys that can rush in the interior and guys outside like Dwight Freeney but we're not even close on that count.

We have enough situational pass rushers in Lang/Dumveril and Ekuban is decent enough to be a starter at one end. What we need is a starter at DE who can hold up against the run and pose more of a threat on third downs rushing the passer. Warren will play better next season since this year was a wash due to his toe injuries so we'll have help there. I'm EXPECTING the team to beef up our smaller D also with a better safety if Lynch retires. Someone like Archuletta/Sharper or Deon Grant. Let Ferguson compete with Brandon at the other spot. We need a number two CB since Fox is not suited to anything more than a nickel role. He's just too light. Paymah would be ideal here because of his size/speed but he's a bust. So we'll need a vet to come in here. Next we absolutely need a stud DE and I wouldn't hesitate to go after Jared Allen who is one of the best young DEs in the game.

He routinely slices across the line to make plays against the run and has superior pass rush skills as well. I just don't think we can target a guy like that in the draft given we'll be drafting at 21.

Will we be overpaying if the chefs give him the highest tender? Hell yeah. But we'll be overpaying for a stud DE in the draft anyway with more risk involved.

fontaine · 01-03-2007, 06:47 AM

On offense we look to have a nice base for our passing game with plenty of size and strength there with guys like Scheff/Walker/Marshall/Kircus all above 6-1 with size as well as speed.

With those kind of WRs it's a lot easier for a QB to pass the ball because they're not just passing the ball into tight spots to smaller receivers that can't outjump the coverage. So the priority here has got to be to keep Jay Cutler upright and find some dominant guys in the running game. Lepsis is the ideal guy at LT but we need a stronger guy at RT who can hold up against the strong side rushers AND pave the way for the running game. Meadows and Foster aren't those guys.

Is Pears? Maybe. But it's asking a lot so I think we should look at what we have in Mustard and see if he's up to scratch as a blocking TE because Alexander isn't. If not, then go after Daniel Graham but with Scheff here it might be overkill IMO.

In the interior we have some decisions to make. Will Nalen stay for another year? If he does then I have to believe that we need another Guard to compete there along with Kuper who can mount a serious challenge to Coop/Hamilton.

More than the OL though, we need a dominant RB. Tatum is great change of pace guy, and Mike Bell a good backup but we need an out and out starter and I hope we get one through the draft because there isn't a whole lot in FA.

Elway777 · 01-03-2007, 07:03 AM

The death of DWIll could chance the Broncos plans, If Antoine Carson or Derrell Revis are available when the Bronces pick .The Broncos draft could go 1, Carson 2 Best Dt ,like Brandon Mebane 3a Baraka Atkins ,a run stopping de and 3b Garry Russell, running back to push tatum.The Broncos then could look at getting Hamlin or Grant in free agency.

OrangeShadow · 01-03-2007, 07:35 AM

sorry so cal i heard the same thing about bush

Broncojef · 01-03-2007, 08:55 AM

Grab a stud running back #1 and fix the O/D lines!!!

RocBronc · 01-03-2007, 09:32 AM

Shanny's got his work cut out for him this offseason... Outside of maybe LB, every position needs addressing, either through the draft of FA. IMO, he really needs to bring in alot more talent and although we have the redskins high 3rd round pick we really don't have alot to work with in the draft.

Jens1893 · 01-03-2007, 09:52 AM

Does anyone know if Frank Okam is going to come out?

Broncoman13 · 01-03-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rascal

I'd rather get a RB in the second and get a uber stud DT in the first. Move up and get Alan Branch or Okoye, Pitcock (size concerns though), or Tyler.

Branch is the only DT worth moving up for. Okam would be a decent 2nd round choice. I'd consider moving up for Gaines Adams, but there isn't another DE on the board worth having in the first round period.

I hope that Bush comes out as well. Unfortunately, we'd probably have to move up for him as well. I think there is a pretty good chance he comes out b/c I'm betting on Brohm coming out.

I'd love to see us make a play on Aaron Ross if he somehow drops to the 2nd round for us. UT has some exciting secondary prospects and Aaron Ross is almost a Nathan Vasher clone!

I like having the early 3rd round pick as well. A guy like Carriker (sp) could drop right in our laps!

SoonerBronco · 01-03-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan13

I'd love to see us make a play on Aaron Ross if he somehow drops to the 2nd round for us. UT has some exciting secondary prospects and Aaron Ross is almost a Nathan Vasher clone!

Good call on Ross. Guy just seems to make tons of plays.

I'm still hoping we draft Peterson. The offense would be set with Culter, Walker, and Peterson for the next 5 years.

Dempsey Dog · 01-03-2007, 12:49 PM

What then mane think about going after Michael Lewis, the FA safety from Philly? He is young, is well regarded, and played his college ball at CU. He might be pretty willing to come to CO. He is in the mold of Lynch, but is just 28.

Jens1893 · 01-03-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SoonerBronco

Good call on Ross. Guy just seems to make tons of plays.

I'm still hoping we draft Peterson. The offense would be set with Culter, Walker, and Peterson for the next 5 years.

Aren´t you at least a little conerned with AD´s injury history?

JoRo · 01-03-2007, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fontaine

The Broncos D is going to need some help this offseason.

We are undersized at LB and teams clearly went 3/4 wide on us almost all the time in the 2nd half when Ferguson/Brandon went down. Given our nickel package in rushing the QB consists of Ekuban switching inside, well then that means we have 3 DEs and one DT in our front four when we have to generate pass rush from a nickel look.

This just may be the smallest and lightest defense in the NFL. Maybe the Colts are lighter but I can't think of any other team with a smaller nickel package from the front four back. It works if you have guys that can rush in the interior and guys outside like Dwight Freeney but we're not even close on that count.

We have enough situational pass rushers in Lang/Dumveril and Ekuban is decent enough to be a starter at one end. What we need is a starter at DE who can hold up against the run and pose more of a threat on third downs rushing the passer. Warren will play better next season since this year was a wash due to his toe injuries so we'll have help there. I'm EXPECTING the team to beef up our smaller D also with a better safety if Lynch retires. Someone like Archuletta/Sharper or Deon Grant. Let Ferguson compete with Brandon at the other spot. We need a number two CB since Fox is not suited to anything more than a nickel role. He's just too light. Paymah would be ideal here because of his size/speed but he's a bust. So we'll need a vet to come in here. Next we absolutely need a stud DE and I wouldn't hesitate to go after Jared Allen who is one of the best young DEs in the game.

He routinely slices across the line to make plays against the run and has superior pass rush skills as well. I just don't think we can target a guy like that in the draft given we'll be drafting at 21.

Will we be overpaying if the chefs give him the highest tender? Hell yeah. But we'll be overpaying for a stud DE in the draft anyway with more risk involved.

I haven't read past the thing with Fox. You realize he weighs more than Darrent did right?

I hate how you people act as though you are Shanny and what you say is how it is.

01-03-2007, 06:25 AM	#14
fontaine Ring of Famer Go John Manning! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,429	The Broncos D is going to need some help this offseason. We are undersized at LB and teams clearly went 3/4 wide on us almost all the time in the 2nd half when Ferguson/Brandon went down. Given our nickel package in rushing the QB consists of Ekuban switching inside, well then that means we have 3 DEs and one DT in our front four when we have to generate pass rush from a nickel look. This just may be the smallest and lightest defense in the NFL. Maybe the Colts are lighter but I can't think of any other team with a smaller nickel package from the front four back. It works if you have guys that can rush in the interior and guys outside like Dwight Freeney but we're not even close on that count. We have enough situational pass rushers in Lang/Dumveril and Ekuban is decent enough to be a starter at one end. What we need is a starter at DE who can hold up against the run and pose more of a threat on third downs rushing the passer. Warren will play better next season since this year was a wash due to his toe injuries so we'll have help there. I'm EXPECTING the team to beef up our smaller D also with a better safety if Lynch retires. Someone like Archuletta/Sharper or Deon Grant. Let Ferguson compete with Brandon at the other spot. We need a number two CB since Fox is not suited to anything more than a nickel role. He's just too light. Paymah would be ideal here because of his size/speed but he's a bust. So we'll need a vet to come in here. Next we absolutely need a stud DE and I wouldn't hesitate to go after Jared Allen who is one of the best young DEs in the game. He routinely slices across the line to make plays against the run and has superior pass rush skills as well. I just don't think we can target a guy like that in the draft given we'll be drafting at 21. Will we be overpaying if the chefs give him the highest tender? Hell yeah. But we'll be overpaying for a stud DE in the draft anyway with more risk involved. Last edited by fontaine; 01-03-2007 at 06:35 AM..

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01-02-2007, 11:12 PM	#1
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,313 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	2007 Draft Thoughts Let me first start off by saying that Darrent Williams will be missed for sure. Living here in Oklahoma, there is alot of talk amongst people about what a great person he was, and what an exciting player he was for Oklahoma State. There's no doubt, he left a positive imprint on the Oklahoma State football and fan community. I don't think there's anything else that I can say that hasn't already been said or expressed by various posters here on the Mane. Darrent was a one-of-a kind person. I think the only silver lining in this whole tragedy is that I do not think the Broncos will need to spend a first day pick on a CB because that darn 2005 draft when Shanny loaded up on CB talent. No one except for God could have possibly known that DW's life would be cut short so soon. However, due to Shanahan's over indulgence in the 2005 draft on the defensive secondary, I don't think drafting another CB is really necessary on the first day for this upcoming draft. With that being said, who should the Broncos now consider for the upcoming draft? I'm all for getting defensive line help. The Broncos need a pass rush and the defensive line is not getting consistent pressure on the QB. However, what I really want the Broncos to do is trade up on the first day and draft Adrian Peterson out of the University of Oklahoma. If the Broncos can get a dominating RB to go with a great young QB, they will be set to make a serious run at the SB. As for the offensive line, demote Foster to a permanent backup, move Pears to RT, and when Lepsis comes back, he'll be at LT. Keep Meadows in the mix too. As for the interior of the line, I think its fine with the young guys that the Broncos drafted last year. And as for the defensive line, perhaps FA is the best way to solve the pass rushing woes. Just a thought. Anyhow, I haven't been posting much lately, haven't had the time. Just thought I'd throw my two cents in about the draft. RIP Darrent, you were a good young man.

01-02-2007, 11:23 PM	#2
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Lynch or trade up for one of the top DL. or BPA

01-03-2007, 12:08 AM	#3
penguintheory studio gangster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: chicahhgo Posts: 652 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Momma	Marshawn Lynch will be a top-15 pick - if we're going to trade up that high I wouldn't want anyone but AD. That being said, will Michael Bush fall due to his early season-ending injury?

01-03-2007, 12:12 AM	#4
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	I heard Bush was going to stay in.

01-03-2007, 12:23 AM	#7
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	I'd rather get a RB in the second and get a uber stud DT in the first. Move up and get Alan Branch or Okoye, Pitcock (size concerns though), or Tyler.

01-03-2007, 12:26 AM	#8
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	It was disgusting to watch our DT's in Warren and Myers get pushed aside like chumps and then their offguard blast Wilson every play this season. And then on pass rush they barely moved off the LOS.

01-03-2007, 02:19 AM	#11
phisig150 Atwater Hit Squad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: northridge, ca Posts: 594	I say go with the best saftey available. Hopefully Griffin.

01-03-2007, 02:26 AM	#12
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	There are a lot of attractive options and I generally change my mind about 8000 times before draft day, but right now I'm leaning this way. Put this monster at one guard with Kuper at the other. Now we're talking about guys who can clear a path to the end zone.

01-03-2007, 02:28 AM	#13
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	Just need three positions: DE/DT, RB, and S. After that, DE/DT and whatever.......

01-03-2007, 06:47 AM	#15
fontaine Ring of Famer Go John Manning! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,429	On offense we look to have a nice base for our passing game with plenty of size and strength there with guys like Scheff/Walker/Marshall/Kircus all above 6-1 with size as well as speed. With those kind of WRs it's a lot easier for a QB to pass the ball because they're not just passing the ball into tight spots to smaller receivers that can't outjump the coverage. So the priority here has got to be to keep Jay Cutler upright and find some dominant guys in the running game. Lepsis is the ideal guy at LT but we need a stronger guy at RT who can hold up against the strong side rushers AND pave the way for the running game. Meadows and Foster aren't those guys. Is Pears? Maybe. But it's asking a lot so I think we should look at what we have in Mustard and see if he's up to scratch as a blocking TE because Alexander isn't. If not, then go after Daniel Graham but with Scheff here it might be overkill IMO. In the interior we have some decisions to make. Will Nalen stay for another year? If he does then I have to believe that we need another Guard to compete there along with Kuper who can mount a serious challenge to Coop/Hamilton. More than the OL though, we need a dominant RB. Tatum is great change of pace guy, and Mike Bell a good backup but we need an out and out starter and I hope we get one through the draft because there isn't a whole lot in FA.

01-03-2007, 07:03 AM	#16
Elway777 Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,886	The death of DWIll could chance the Broncos plans, If Antoine Carson or Derrell Revis are available when the Bronces pick .The Broncos draft could go 1, Carson 2 Best Dt ,like Brandon Mebane 3a Baraka Atkins ,a run stopping de and 3b Garry Russell, running back to push tatum.The Broncos then could look at getting Hamlin or Grant in free agency.

01-03-2007, 07:35 AM	#17
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	sorry so cal i heard the same thing about bush

01-03-2007, 08:55 AM	#18
Broncojef Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Great White North Posts: 3,020	Grab a stud running back #1 and fix the O/D lines!!!

01-03-2007, 09:32 AM	#19
RocBronc Pro Bowler Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 540	Shanny's got his work cut out for him this offseason... Outside of maybe LB, every position needs addressing, either through the draft of FA. IMO, he really needs to bring in alot more talent and although we have the redskins high 3rd round pick we really don't have alot to work with in the draft.

01-03-2007, 09:52 AM	#20
Jens1893 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: People´s Republic of Bad Cannstatt Posts: 9,170	Does anyone know if Frank Okam is going to come out?

01-03-2007, 12:49 PM	#23
Dempsey Dog Seasoned Veteran Duke...we miss ya! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 267 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	What then mane think about going after Michael Lewis, the FA safety from Philly? He is young, is well regarded, and played his college ball at CU. He might be pretty willing to come to CO. He is in the mold of Lynch, but is just 28.