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Old 01-02-2007, 01:50 PM   #1
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Default Jake Plummer headed to Houston?

I'm still not buying this 8 million dollar cap hit. We don't pay his 7M salary if he's released.

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Old 01-02-2007, 02:25 PM   #2
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I wouldn't be heart broken to see the Chiefs grab David Carr when he is let go if the price tag is reasonable. I don't think he will ever live up to his first pick in the draft status but I think he is better than he has looked due to being on a bad team his entire career.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:28 PM   #3
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I wouldn't be heart broken to see the Chiefs grab David Carr when he is let go if the price tag is reasonable. I don't think he will ever live up to his first pick in the draft status but I think he is better than he has looked due to being on a bad team his entire career.
I would dislike that very much. Behind your O-line he might have more than 1.5 seconds to throw the ball. I think given the opportunity behind a good line he would be a good QB for someone.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:32 PM   #4
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I wouldn't be heart broken to see the Chiefs grab David Carr when he is let go if the price tag is reasonable. I don't think he will ever live up to his first pick in the draft status but I think he is better than he has looked due to being on a bad team his entire career.
I would like for Denver to get him. It doesn't make sense though to have him as the backup when the team could use a veteran as a backup since Cutler is still young and a little green.

When we do unload Plummer, I hope we take a serious look at Garcia. West coast offense kind of guy with smarts and a desire to play.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:38 PM   #5
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I would like for Denver to get him. It doesn't make sense though to have him as the backup when the team could use a veteran as a backup since Cutler is still young and a little green.

When we do unload Plummer, I hope we take a serious look at Garcia. West coast offense kind of guy with smarts and a desire to play.
Totally agree.....I think Garcia would be perfect as a backup here.....
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:58 PM   #6
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Garcia will not take another backup job. He probably stays in Philly since McNabb will not be ready till around Thanksgiving.
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Old 01-02-2007, 02:59 PM   #7
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Garcia visited two years back didn't he?
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:02 PM   #8
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Matt mauck? Or is he a dentist yet...
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Old 01-02-2007, 03:13 PM   #9
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Plummer and a 4th for Dominick Davis?
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:05 PM   #10
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I'm still not buying this 8 million dollar cap hit. We don't pay his 7M salary if he's released.
You buy whatever you want to buy, too bad you're wrong. There's $8+M in unamortized bonus money yet to hit the cap.
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Old 01-02-2007, 04:06 PM   #11
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we dont need another rb that can't stay healthy
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Old 01-02-2007, 07:31 PM   #12
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Plummer and a 4th for Dominick Davis?
Oh, the irony!

Depending on who you believe, Davis will either hang it up because of his knee injury or he's ahead of progress on his rehab (even though surgery was last June and was originally said to be minor).

But, that's not the craziest part of it. Seems Davis got his surname from an adopted father and now wants to be known by his *real* surname - Williams!

That's right. Another D-Will in Denver! I don't think Bronco fans are ready for that right now.
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:53 PM   #13
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Garcia will not take another backup job. He probably stays in Philly since McNabb will not be ready till around Thanksgiving.
Yes, Garcia will stay in Philly, unless he gets a good contract with the opportunity to start elsewhere.

Although he would be an ideal backup for Cutler, Denver is not the situation Garcia would be looking for if he were to consider leaving Philly.
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:59 PM   #14
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Oh, the irony!

Depending on who you believe, Davis will either hang it up because of his knee injury or he's ahead of progress on his rehab (even though surgery was last June and was originally said to be minor).

But, that's not the craziest part of it. Seems Davis got his surname from an adopted father and now wants to be known by his *real* surname - Williams!

That's right. Another D-Will in Denver! I don't think Bronco fans are ready for that right now.
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Old 01-02-2007, 09:22 PM   #15
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Yeah, but he wanted to start in Cleveland instead, which was an unmitigated disaster for everybody. They put him in an offense that didn't fit him and he got loud about it.
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Old 01-02-2007, 11:16 PM   #16
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I don't see Garcia leaving Philly to be a backup with the Broncos. He has performed well for the Eagles and their offense. He had no success in Cleveland or Detroit, so odds are he's happy where he's at. Plus McNabb hasn't been healthy much the last couple of years, so chances are he gets to play.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:14 AM   #17
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I'm actually curious what happens with Garcia.

This is just pure speculation, but I wonder if Garcia could be competing for the starting QB spot in Philly.

Look, I know that if all things are the same, and you just said "who is better, mcnabb or garcia" everybody says McNabb.

But Garcia is winning, and not only that, but even with his knee, McNabb has trade value. I'm not saying it happens, but what happens if this rolling Philly team wins a playoff game or two?
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:17 AM   #18
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Ooooo that'd be tempting.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:23 AM   #19
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The Houston Texans' running back formerly known as Domanick Davis says he's close to 100 percent healed from knee surgeries.

He's legally switched his last name to Williams, cut his braids, and changed his number from 37 to 31. The decision was made to honor his mother, whose maiden name is Williams. He's now lifting heavy weight without his knee swelling up, which had been his problem before landing on I.R. in September. "He changed his hair, his clothes and his name," teammate Dunta Robinson said. "I hope he changes his knee too."
For Plummer and a second day pick? That'd be a great deal for us!
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:24 AM   #20
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I'm actually curious what happens with Garcia.

This is just pure speculation, but I wonder if Garcia could be competing for the starting QB spot in Philly.

Look, I know that if all things are the same, and you just said "who is better, mcnabb or garcia" everybody says McNabb.

But Garcia is winning, and not only that, but even with his knee, McNabb has trade value. I'm not saying it happens, but what happens if this rolling Philly team wins a playoff game or two?
If Garcia leads them to a superbowl win, and leads Philly to a 7-1 record before Mcnabb returns... Then there is some validity to your arguement But, Garcia is no spring chicken. Will turn 37 this year. This is Garcia's last dance to lead a team to a SB victory.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:33 AM   #21
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Yikes, I didn't know Garcia was 37. Nevermind.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:34 AM   #22
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you don't think much of Dominick Davis? Plummer and a 4th. You must be bargain shopping.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:20 AM   #23
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thats not bargain shopping, thats being realistic. Teams aren't going to want plummer. Kubiak would be the only one because he knows what Jake can do in his system.
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:35 AM   #24
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We're not going to trade Plummer to anyone. We would have to eat his entire $8million cap hit in one go instead of spreading it out over two seasons if we cut him instead.

Besides if we cut him this year and designate it as a post June 1 cut then we actually save some cap space for 2007.
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Old 01-03-2007, 12:01 PM   #25
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We're not going to trade Plummer to anyone. We would have to eat his entire $8million cap hit in one go instead of spreading it out over two seasons if we cut him instead.

Besides if we cut him this year and designate it as a post June 1 cut then we actually save some cap space for 2007.
I thought Herc posted something about how the cap rules had been reformed by the 2006 CBA to make trading more cap friendly. I looked at the 2006 cba but didn't see anything ... or anything I could understand.
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