Back up QB for next year? - The Orange Mane

jmz313 · 12-20-2006, 08:54 AM

Jake ain't going to be sticking around so Who would you like to see backing up Cutler? I would like to see denver sign one of those older, fading stars that have already been sitting a year or so. Some one who understands their role and will not lose us games if called upon (ie: what Philly got with garcia). I'm thinking Brad Johnson or Kerry Collins since both should be availible this off season.

Niether one is going to win us a superbowl, thats what cutler is for but Both know the game, have played alot, and given a good surrounding cast can win a game or 2 if cutler is out. My only concern with both is mobility but I'm assuming changes are made in the off season to sure up our pass blocking since that is a obvious problem.

BJ has little arm but has shown that he can get the ball to the playmakers and be a "caretaker", not too mention some SB experience.

Collins still has a big arm but will turn it over more. However, he's more likely to make big plays and keep the Offense from being scaled way back. His attitude seems good since NYG.

Brunell would be intriguing to me due to mobility but I think he stays in DC.

Any other interesting backup QB options? I just want a Vet that is resigned to being a backup but can play.

socalorado · 12-20-2006, 09:06 AM

I put this as a option on another thread. I am not sure what his contract situation is, but i would like to see someone like Kelly Holcomb back up Cutler. He has experience and when needed could come in and actually "help" the team, not hurt it.

-Slap- · 12-20-2006, 09:07 AM

Here's a name nobody else is likely to mention. I wouldn't mind taking a shot at Shaun King. He's out of the League right now, but he played in a lot of pressure games as a young quarterback and he has a winning record as a starter. He would be dirt cheap, the veteran minimum would get it done. His mobility would be a great change of pace coming off the bench.

SportinOne · 12-20-2006, 09:18 AM

I totally agree with this strategy.

Whoever he is, he MUST accept his role. He must also not be Shaun King.

If we have the choice between an accurate qb or strong armed qb, take the strong armed guy so that the rest of the team won't be thrown off as much.

Drek · 12-20-2006, 09:32 AM

Is Shaun King still mobile though, he's gotten pretty old.

Personally I'd like to see us spin a 5th rounder to the Bears for Orton. He won't play with both Grossman and Griese under contract, they've burt up two of his three years of contract now anyways, they'd probably be happy to get a 5th rounder out of him, we get a #2 QB who is still young but has almost a whole season of experience under his belt and an arm that doesn't require us to change the gameplan if Cutler is down. We'll also get a 2nd year of him for fairly cheap as I don't think he'll attract a ton of attention as an RFA.

Disco Man · 12-20-2006, 09:32 AM

Look for BVP to be back in Denver if the Texans don't keep him.

El Guapo · 12-20-2006, 09:43 AM

Bring back Tommy Maddox, eh, I think he might still be with Pittsburgh. I say we draft another, but then again its cause I want my college QB to remain blue and orange (check sig

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Florida_Bronco · 12-20-2006, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Here's a name nobody else is likely to mention. I wouldn't mind taking a shot at Shaun King. He's out of the League right now, but he played in a lot of pressure games as a young quarterback and he has a winning record as a starter. He would be dirt cheap, the veteran minimum would get it done. His mobility would be a great change of pace coming off the bench.

That may not be a bad idea. He's also a high character guy who was well liked by teammates and fans down here in Tampa.

baja · 12-20-2006, 09:47 AM

Brian Griese

baja · 12-20-2006, 09:49 AM

Actually BVP would be my choice or draft someone like Kubes in the later rounds that couuld backup Jay all his career.

Rohirrim · 12-20-2006, 09:56 AM

What's Steve DeBerg up to these days?

SportinOne · 12-20-2006, 10:07 AM

Whoever he is he must be similar to Jay. BVP fits the bill except for the arm. Then again no one has Jay's arm. I feel sorry for San Diego. Yeah Rivers will be accurate his whole career, but where is the excitement in that? You will NEVER, EVER see him do what Jay did this past game. Rivers gets in that situation and he better hope that he's throwing to Jackson (for height reasons only) and that Jackson can stop dead in his tracks at the 10 and outleap two defenders. Man what a throw. If Jay never played another good game for the rest of his career, how much time did that throw buy him? Shanahan would think about bringing someone new in, but in the back of his mind would be "the bomb". Gary Kubiak would call his former mentor and plead with him, "Mike, it's 2013. The guy hasn't done squat since his rookie year!"

Shanahan, with a sheepish grin on his face would then reply, "Yeah, but do you remember that play against LA?"

"LA?............the LA Raiders, Mike? He wasn't even playing then."

"No, i'm talking about the Cardinals. When they were still in Arizona. You see i started the game with two consec-"

"-CLICK-"

Rashomon · 12-20-2006, 10:16 AM

I believe he is under contract next year, but Billy Volek at SD would be a good choice. He is a veteran, would understand his role, is pretty decent in the vertical passing game, and has a history with Heimerdinger.

broncsyanks · 12-20-2006, 10:17 AM

it doesnt really matter to me. just make it affordable so we can get a pass rush in here.

-Slap- · 12-20-2006, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

That may not be a bad idea. He's also a high character guy who was well liked by teammates and fans down here in Tampa.

He's also a winner. He had a remarkable career at Tulane.

Wikipedia profile:

Shaun Earl King (born May 29, 1977 in St. Petersburg, Florida) is an American football player in the National Football League at the quarterback position.

King played college football at Tulane University between 1995 and 1998, [1] leading Tulane to an undefeated season and in the process setting the single-season NCAA Division I-A record for passing efficiency in 1998 of 183.3. In the same year he became the first player in NCAA history to both pass for 300 yards and rush for 100 yards in the same game against Army on November 14th.

King subsequently was drafted in the second round of the 1999 NFL Draft by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, his hometown team. His best professional season was in 2000, when he started all 16 regular-season games for the Bucs. The team lost the NFC Championship 11-6 to the St. Louis Rams with King at the helm. He was replaced by Brad Johnson and relegated to a backup role for the following three seasons. In 2004, he signed with the Arizona Cardinals as a free agent, but only started two games and was released at the end of the season.

On Friday June 2, 2006 he signed a free agent contract with the Indianapolis Colts, but was then released as a free agent on September 3.

On Friday November 29, 2006 Shaun King signed with the Las Vegas Gladiators of the Arena Football League.

The Shaun King Foundation, headquartered in Winter Haven Florida, is the principle supporter for the Kings Kids program in partnership with Boys & Girls Clubs of the Suncoast, St. Petersburg Florida

BroncoFiend · 12-20-2006, 10:23 AM

We should just take Leinart off the Cardinals hands and have him back up Cutler. He did a good job of taking a backseat to Cutler on Sunday

.

Seriously, I would overpay Jake to stick around, but barring that, we need to go the veteran route, and arm strength would be irrelevant. We would need a guy to manage the game and not make mistakes.

Brad Johnson

Tim Rattay

Kelly Holcomb

Jay Fiedler (assuming his shoulder is healed up)

-Slap- · 12-20-2006, 10:24 AM

Tim Rattay would be a good choice. San Francisco should have kept him over Smith.

jmz313 · 12-20-2006, 10:37 AM

Volek and Rattay should be competing for starting jobs. I think it would be hard to get either to sign here unless it's their only option, which it shouldn't be.

Am I the only one who thinks both these guys got bad deals from their respective past teams? Tenn and SF? not to change the path of my orignal post but how long is Matt Shaub going to put up with watching vick lose games before begging his way out of ATL.

crowebomber · 12-20-2006, 10:44 AM

Bledsoe will probably be available after this year. Not that mobile, but a solid vet with a good arm. I like the Kerry Collins idea for his arm strength.

jmz313 · 12-20-2006, 10:49 AM

Bledsoe is still too proud to take a backup job. He'll probably catch on somewhere. He can still be very effective if the team has a good pass blocking line. I could imagine him on his back here as much as he was in Dallas this year.

DarkHorse · 12-20-2006, 11:20 AM

Draft

plummershelper · 12-20-2006, 11:21 AM

Ramsey will be done in NY next year. How about him?

Florida_Bronco · 12-20-2006, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmz313

Volek and Rattay should be competing for starting jobs. I think it would be hard to get either to sign here unless it's their only option, which it shouldn't be.

Am I the only one who thinks both these guys got bad deals from their respective past teams? Tenn and SF? not to change the path of my orignal post but how long is Matt Shaub going to put up with watching vick lose games before begging his way out of ATL.

I agree. Volek is a talented quarterback who, if I recall correctly, Denver made a serious run at a few years ago. Don't know a whole lot about Rattay though.

WoodMan · 12-20-2006, 11:45 AM

Jarious Jackson is as good as it gets when holding a clipboard.

I hear he is still working out with Spencer Haygood in the Denver parks.

youcandoit1687 · 12-20-2006, 11:56 AM

i like shaun king too. i always thought he played very well, but at that time i was only about 8 years old. whoever we pick up though, i want us to bring in a rookie(6th, 7th, or UDFA) for the long term. drew tate would probably be there and would be a decent backup fit for the future.

12-20-2006, 08:54 AM	#1
jmz313 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 982	Back up QB for next year? Jake ain't going to be sticking around so Who would you like to see backing up Cutler? I would like to see denver sign one of those older, fading stars that have already been sitting a year or so. Some one who understands their role and will not lose us games if called upon (ie: what Philly got with garcia). I'm thinking Brad Johnson or Kerry Collins since both should be availible this off season. Niether one is going to win us a superbowl, thats what cutler is for but Both know the game, have played alot, and given a good surrounding cast can win a game or 2 if cutler is out. My only concern with both is mobility but I'm assuming changes are made in the off season to sure up our pass blocking since that is a obvious problem. BJ has little arm but has shown that he can get the ball to the playmakers and be a "caretaker", not too mention some SB experience. Collins still has a big arm but will turn it over more. However, he's more likely to make big plays and keep the Offense from being scaled way back. His attitude seems good since NYG. Brunell would be intriguing to me due to mobility but I think he stays in DC. Any other interesting backup QB options? I just want a Vet that is resigned to being a backup but can play.

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12-20-2006, 09:06 AM	#2
socalorado Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,212	I put this as a option on another thread. I am not sure what his contract situation is, but i would like to see someone like Kelly Holcomb back up Cutler. He has experience and when needed could come in and actually "help" the team, not hurt it.

12-20-2006, 09:07 AM	#3
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Here's a name nobody else is likely to mention. I wouldn't mind taking a shot at Shaun King. He's out of the League right now, but he played in a lot of pressure games as a young quarterback and he has a winning record as a starter. He would be dirt cheap, the veteran minimum would get it done. His mobility would be a great change of pace coming off the bench.

12-20-2006, 09:18 AM	#4
SportinOne Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,422	I totally agree with this strategy. Whoever he is, he MUST accept his role. He must also not be Shaun King. If we have the choice between an accurate qb or strong armed qb, take the strong armed guy so that the rest of the team won't be thrown off as much.

12-20-2006, 09:32 AM	#5
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,317	Is Shaun King still mobile though, he's gotten pretty old. Personally I'd like to see us spin a 5th rounder to the Bears for Orton. He won't play with both Grossman and Griese under contract, they've burt up two of his three years of contract now anyways, they'd probably be happy to get a 5th rounder out of him, we get a #2 QB who is still young but has almost a whole season of experience under his belt and an arm that doesn't require us to change the gameplan if Cutler is down. We'll also get a 2nd year of him for fairly cheap as I don't think he'll attract a ton of attention as an RFA.

12-20-2006, 09:32 AM	#6
Disco Man Style n Profile Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Denver, Co. Posts: 1,711	Look for BVP to be back in Denver if the Texans don't keep him.

12-20-2006, 09:43 AM	#7
El Guapo aka mav_7. who? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: VA (heart is in TX) Posts: 3,449	Bring back Tommy Maddox, eh, I think he might still be with Pittsburgh. I say we draft another, but then again its cause I want my college QB to remain blue and orange (check sig )

12-20-2006, 09:47 AM	#9
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12-20-2006, 09:49 AM	#10
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,921 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Actually BVP would be my choice or draft someone like Kubes in the later rounds that couuld backup Jay all his career.

12-20-2006, 09:56 AM	#11
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,854	What's Steve DeBerg up to these days?

12-20-2006, 10:07 AM	#12
SportinOne Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,422	Whoever he is he must be similar to Jay. BVP fits the bill except for the arm. Then again no one has Jay's arm. I feel sorry for San Diego. Yeah Rivers will be accurate his whole career, but where is the excitement in that? You will NEVER, EVER see him do what Jay did this past game. Rivers gets in that situation and he better hope that he's throwing to Jackson (for height reasons only) and that Jackson can stop dead in his tracks at the 10 and outleap two defenders. Man what a throw. If Jay never played another good game for the rest of his career, how much time did that throw buy him? Shanahan would think about bringing someone new in, but in the back of his mind would be "the bomb". Gary Kubiak would call his former mentor and plead with him, "Mike, it's 2013. The guy hasn't done squat since his rookie year!" Shanahan, with a sheepish grin on his face would then reply, "Yeah, but do you remember that play against LA?" "LA?............the LA Raiders, Mike? He wasn't even playing then." "No, i'm talking about the Cardinals. When they were still in Arizona. You see i started the game with two consec-" "-CLICK-"

12-20-2006, 10:16 AM	#13
Rashomon Solid Starter New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 166 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I believe he is under contract next year, but Billy Volek at SD would be a good choice. He is a veteran, would understand his role, is pretty decent in the vertical passing game, and has a history with Heimerdinger.

12-20-2006, 10:17 AM	#14
broncsyanks Broncos kick a$$!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nyc, NY Posts: 917	it doesnt really matter to me. just make it affordable so we can get a pass rush in here.

12-20-2006, 10:23 AM	#16
BroncoFiend Ring of Famer The enemy's gate is down Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,505 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	We should just take Leinart off the Cardinals hands and have him back up Cutler. He did a good job of taking a backseat to Cutler on Sunday . Seriously, I would overpay Jake to stick around, but barring that, we need to go the veteran route, and arm strength would be irrelevant. We would need a guy to manage the game and not make mistakes. Brad Johnson Tim Rattay Kelly Holcomb Jay Fiedler (assuming his shoulder is healed up)

12-20-2006, 10:24 AM	#17
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Tim Rattay would be a good choice. San Francisco should have kept him over Smith.

12-20-2006, 10:37 AM	#18
jmz313 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 982	Volek and Rattay should be competing for starting jobs. I think it would be hard to get either to sign here unless it's their only option, which it shouldn't be. Am I the only one who thinks both these guys got bad deals from their respective past teams? Tenn and SF? not to change the path of my orignal post but how long is Matt Shaub going to put up with watching vick lose games before begging his way out of ATL.

12-20-2006, 10:44 AM	#19
crowebomber Ring of Famer Old School Sucka Fool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: P-Town Posts: 1,517 Adopt-a-Bronco: Frank Tripucka	Bledsoe will probably be available after this year. Not that mobile, but a solid vet with a good arm. I like the Kerry Collins idea for his arm strength.

12-20-2006, 10:49 AM	#20
jmz313 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 982	Bledsoe is still too proud to take a backup job. He'll probably catch on somewhere. He can still be very effective if the team has a good pass blocking line. I could imagine him on his back here as much as he was in Dallas this year.

12-20-2006, 11:20 AM	#21
DarkHorse RPM Racer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 4,680 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kenny McKinley	Draft

12-20-2006, 11:21 AM	#22
plummershelper Light Rail Rumor Monger I heard on the light rail ... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Burger Heaven, next to my meteorite Posts: 791	Ramsey will be done in NY next year. How about him?

12-20-2006, 11:45 AM	#24
WoodMan Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gulf Coast of Mississippi Posts: 1,327	Jarious Jackson is as good as it gets when holding a clipboard. I hear he is still working out with Spencer Haygood in the Denver parks.

12-20-2006, 11:56 AM	#25
youcandoit1687 homer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,602 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Myers	i like shaun king too. i always thought he played very well, but at that time i was only about 8 years old. whoever we pick up though, i want us to bring in a rookie(6th, 7th, or UDFA) for the long term. drew tate would probably be there and would be a decent backup fit for the future.