What's up with Dwill? - The Orange Mane

That One Guy · 12-15-2006, 10:03 PM

Over on Broncomania they had an interview with Jeremy Green and this was posted. Any ideas on what they're talking about? Might we see a different CB getting a shot this week?

Brett (LA): JG! Looks like Darrant Williams is a no-go this week. How much trouble will denver have with the AZ passing game?

Jeremy Green: (3:40 PM ET ) This might be a blessing in disguise. Darrent Wiliams has not covered anyone for the past month. He is getting abused. Denver does not get pressure and Coyer won't blitz, so yes, they are going to have a lot of issues with the Card receivers this week.

Sassy · 12-15-2006, 10:06 PM

About time!

That One Guy · 12-15-2006, 10:08 PM

That's harsh... but I wont say I disagree

Sassy · 12-15-2006, 10:12 PM

For every decent play Darrent makes...he always seems to have 5 more screwups...

Atwater His Ass · 12-15-2006, 10:15 PM

I give Williams 2 more years to improve. The guy has a lot of heart and big play skills. Playing opposite of Champ has probably hurt him come game time since teams don't look Champ's way. But given some time to adapt, and with the time spent working with Champ and learning from him in practice, Williams could be a dominant CB.

Couple that with the ineptitude of our DL, and you can't be too hard on Williams. The most concerning thing to me about his play is that sometimes, when he already has good position, he doesn't make the play on the ball. That needs to improve.

Dagmar · 12-15-2006, 10:26 PM

D Will has had some big plays, but he strikes me as too arrogant. That arrogance may have been due after a couple more years of development, but he has struck me as a bit of a punk this year, willing to call out others but a lot less willing to admit his own shortcomings.

baja · 12-15-2006, 10:28 PM

I'm thinking the guy is having a sophomore slump. Corner backs are especially susceptible to this.

Play2win · 12-15-2006, 10:32 PM

I just saw on the bottom line that DWILL is listed as Questionable (TOE) for the game.

ozomulsion · 12-15-2006, 10:36 PM

I'm sure Foxworth will do wonders against Boldin/Fitz.

watermock · 12-15-2006, 10:39 PM

It's Jay's fault.

SouthStndJunkie · 12-15-2006, 10:54 PM

Good time to put Foxworth over there to see what he can do.

I have seen him get toasted bad before too.

AFC Championship Game.

If we don't pressure the QB, it won't matter who we have in there.

ncjmirabile · 12-15-2006, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ozomulsion

I'm sure Foxworth will do wonders against Boldin/Fitz.

Both Williams and Foxworth would have their issues because both are giving up size and strength to Bolden and Fitzgerald.

Drek · 12-15-2006, 11:11 PM

Foxworth has his issues in coverage as well, anyone would without decent pass rushers to take time away from the offense.

My hope is that this results in Paymah getting a shot at safety though, I think thats where he really belongs.

watermock · 12-15-2006, 11:20 PM

I can't remember but I think Paymah was the highest pick of the 3 and needs to step up.

broncosteven · 12-15-2006, 11:33 PM

In the Denver post it said his toe was getting worse. I think he or Shanny will use it as an excuse to let him get his act together then slowly reinsert him back into line up once he has his confidence back.

I just hope that he does not pull a Tank Johnson & have a SWAT team at house any time soon. i.e. I hope they are not hiding off-field trouble.

SportinOne · 12-15-2006, 11:34 PM

DWill is a great player. He is great at making you appreciate having Champ Bailey on your team.

broncogary · 12-15-2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock

I can't remember but I think Paymah was the highest pick of the 3 and needs to step up.

You're right! You can't remember.

broncogary · 12-15-2006, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

For every decent play Darrent makes...he always seems to have 5 more screwups...

It sounds like, " JJJJJ Jake!"

SouthStndJunkie · 12-15-2006, 11:37 PM

Darrent is not as bad as he has looked out there the last several weeks.

Champ is special....he can make do out there with very little pass rush. Darrent and Foxworth, or whoever we put out there on the other side needs some semblance of a pass rush or they will get toasted.

Hogan11 · 12-15-2006, 11:43 PM

The most impressive thing DWill has done this year thus far was putting his hair into a mohawk for TV face time.....he far from impresses me, as anyone at the SD game last week can tell you

Rascal · 12-16-2006, 12:05 AM

For one I would like to get a legit secondary coach who will realize that D-will can't play the same style that Champ does. He needs to focus on the WR and play the traditional CB method instead of trying to mirror champ.

Rascal · 12-16-2006, 12:06 AM

That doesn't give me good feelings about Paymah covering Bryant Johnson one on one when they go 3 WR.

Conklin · 12-16-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11

The most impressive thing DWill has done this year thus far was putting his hair into a mohawk for TV face time.....he far from impresses me, as anyone at the SD game last week can tell you

yeah, i had to one up that one tho

fdf · 12-16-2006, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

I give Williams 2 more years to improve. The guy has a lot of heart and big play skills. Playing opposite of Champ has probably hurt him come game time since teams don't look Champ's way. But given some time to adapt, and with the time spent working with Champ and learning from him in practice, Williams could be a dominant CB.

Couple that with the ineptitude of our DL, and you can't be too hard on Williams. The most concerning thing to me about his play is that sometimes, when he already has good position, he doesn't make the play on the ball. That needs to improve.

Actually, I think he's hit the "Lenny Walls Wall." He did well out of the box until receivers figured out how to beat him. Since the Indy game, when he was ruthlessly exposed, he hasn't had even a decent game. His guy has been wide open more-or-less regularly since then. If he doesn't figure out what's wrong, he's out of the league in two years. We'd be doing better using five defensive lineman and just leaving his guy uncovered for all the good he's doing.

ØrangeÇrush · 12-16-2006, 01:53 AM

He's suffering from the Deltha O'neal complex....He's looking for the pick so hard that he's ignoring the double move and biting on the comeback. He spends too much time looking in the backfield and not enought time locking down his receiver. If he realized that he only needs to pay attention to the guy he's covering he'll have more chances for picks because he'll be in better position.

12-15-2006, 10:03 PM	#1
That One Guy Producer of Nonsense Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sun and Beachville Posts: 14,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	What's up with Dwill? Over on Broncomania they had an interview with Jeremy Green and this was posted. Any ideas on what they're talking about? Might we see a different CB getting a shot this week? Brett (LA): JG! Looks like Darrant Williams is a no-go this week. How much trouble will denver have with the AZ passing game? Jeremy Green: (3:40 PM ET ) This might be a blessing in disguise. Darrent Wiliams has not covered anyone for the past month. He is getting abused. Denver does not get pressure and Coyer won't blitz, so yes, they are going to have a lot of issues with the Card receivers this week.

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12-15-2006, 10:06 PM	#2
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	About time!

12-15-2006, 10:08 PM	#3
That One Guy Producer of Nonsense Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sun and Beachville Posts: 14,042 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	That's harsh... but I wont say I disagree

12-15-2006, 10:12 PM	#4
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	For every decent play Darrent makes...he always seems to have 5 more screwups...

12-15-2006, 10:15 PM	#5
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,374 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I give Williams 2 more years to improve. The guy has a lot of heart and big play skills. Playing opposite of Champ has probably hurt him come game time since teams don't look Champ's way. But given some time to adapt, and with the time spent working with Champ and learning from him in practice, Williams could be a dominant CB. Couple that with the ineptitude of our DL, and you can't be too hard on Williams. The most concerning thing to me about his play is that sometimes, when he already has good position, he doesn't make the play on the ball. That needs to improve.

12-15-2006, 10:26 PM	#6
Dagmar ...there ain't no devil ..there's just God when he's drunk. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Morrison Posts: 17,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	D Will has had some big plays, but he strikes me as too arrogant. That arrogance may have been due after a couple more years of development, but he has struck me as a bit of a punk this year, willing to call out others but a lot less willing to admit his own shortcomings.

12-15-2006, 10:28 PM	#7
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: in a bunker Posts: 54,377 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius Thomas	I'm thinking the guy is having a sophomore slump. Corner backs are especially susceptible to this.

12-15-2006, 10:32 PM	#8
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,611 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	I just saw on the bottom line that DWILL is listed as Questionable (TOE) for the game.

12-15-2006, 10:36 PM	#9
ozomulsion Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,597 Adopt-a-Bronco: The ladies man.	I'm sure Foxworth will do wonders against Boldin/Fitz.

12-15-2006, 10:39 PM	#10
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	It's Jay's fault.

12-15-2006, 10:54 PM	#11
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,352	Good time to put Foxworth over there to see what he can do. I have seen him get toasted bad before too. AFC Championship Game. If we don't pressure the QB, it won't matter who we have in there.

12-15-2006, 11:11 PM	#13
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,359	Foxworth has his issues in coverage as well, anyone would without decent pass rushers to take time away from the offense. My hope is that this results in Paymah getting a shot at safety though, I think thats where he really belongs.

12-15-2006, 11:20 PM	#14
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	I can't remember but I think Paymah was the highest pick of the 3 and needs to step up.

12-15-2006, 11:33 PM	#15
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,314 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	In the Denver post it said his toe was getting worse. I think he or Shanny will use it as an excuse to let him get his act together then slowly reinsert him back into line up once he has his confidence back. I just hope that he does not pull a Tank Johnson & have a SWAT team at house any time soon. i.e. I hope they are not hiding off-field trouble.

12-15-2006, 11:34 PM	#16
SportinOne Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,439	DWill is a great player. He is great at making you appreciate having Champ Bailey on your team.

12-15-2006, 11:37 PM	#19
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,352	Darrent is not as bad as he has looked out there the last several weeks. Champ is special....he can make do out there with very little pass rush. Darrent and Foxworth, or whoever we put out there on the other side needs some semblance of a pass rush or they will get toasted.

12-15-2006, 11:43 PM	#20
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	The most impressive thing DWill has done this year thus far was putting his hair into a mohawk for TV face time.....he far from impresses me, as anyone at the SD game last week can tell you

12-16-2006, 12:05 AM	#21
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,582 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	For one I would like to get a legit secondary coach who will realize that D-will can't play the same style that Champ does. He needs to focus on the WR and play the traditional CB method instead of trying to mirror champ.

12-16-2006, 12:06 AM	#22
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,582 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	That doesn't give me good feelings about Paymah covering Bryant Johnson one on one when they go 3 WR.

12-16-2006, 01:53 AM	#25
ØrangeÇrush Aaaayh!!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,371	He's suffering from the Deltha O'neal complex....He's looking for the pick so hard that he's ignoring the double move and biting on the comeback. He spends too much time looking in the backfield and not enought time locking down his receiver. If he realized that he only needs to pay attention to the guy he's covering he'll have more chances for picks because he'll be in better position.