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Old 12-10-2006, 08:02 PM   #26
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ESPN is saying a trade is imminent and most likely will be completed in the next 48h.
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Old 12-10-2006, 10:35 PM   #27
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I think Minnesota maybe gets him.

Of course, I'm a huge Iverson mark. He's been my favorite player in the league since he entered, and is now only rivaled (and topped) by Carmelo. And CO hit it on the head. I'd have a jersey on order the day they made the pres conference.

But, as has been mentioned, I don't see how we get this done. K-Mart isn't an option anymore, unless Isiah is now running the 6ers. But, Kroenke last night on ESPN said he was interested, so who knows. Could you imagine somehow unloading Martin and getting AI in return? That would be a Christmas present.

But I think Minnesota could get them. I don't know how their salaries go, but they could get rid of Mike James, giving the 76ers somebody to fill AI's role, some draft picks, and maybe some expiring contracts. Again, I don't know their roster that well.

And I think that would end the "Is KG going to be traded? Does he want out?" discussion altogether.

I'm curious if AI stays in the East. I mean, are you really going to give him to a rival team? Perhaps. But we'll see. What I'm really interested in seeing is how quickly they get this done. Word out of Philly is that AI has played his last game... I don't know if I buy that. You're telling me they just whip up a huge mega-deal for a superstar with a huge contract over the weekend? I have a feeling this might go down to the trade deadline.. Or least the rest of this month.


Seems like ownership wants this done early by Tuesday.

I don't think Kmart is useable. He's injured and I don't think you can move injured players.
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Old 12-10-2006, 10:35 PM   #28
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The only real horses in the Iverson sweepstakes are Boston, Chicago and Charlotte imo.

Philadelphia is looking for two things:

1) Cap Space -- With Webber's deal coming off the books next season, that will free up about 20 million dollars. They are not looking to reload (Andre Miller, Nene) they are looking to get under the cap. Getting rid of Iverson (20 mill) for at least one big expiring contract is essential.

2) Young talent -- They want cheap, young talent to sell to their fanbase while they rebuild. Also, they want to make sure they continue to lose so they have the best opportunity to land the next big thing (Greg Oden). Even if the lotto balls don't fall their way, they still can get Durant or Noah. Not bad.

So who has what they want? Chicago, Boston, and Charlotte.

Boston could offer Theo Ratliff (deal expires with Webbers), Sebastian Telfair, Al Jefferson and Delonte West. Why would Philly do it? Because they get their cap space, young talent, and still remain in the hunt for the number one pick.

Picking up a guy like Andre Miller would be a lateral move for the franchise. They don't want to stay mediocre forever. They want to suck badly for two seasons, draft high in the next two drafts, and make a big splash in the free agent pool in 2008.

IMO, if Boston really wants Iverson -- and all indicators point to yes -- he is their's to lose.

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Old 12-10-2006, 10:38 PM   #29
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We aren't even in the sweepstakes anymore. GM Karl said he doesn't want Iverson right now because the team is finally developing a good chemistry and likes where they are at.

Funny how KMart goes out and this team grows more as a unit.
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Old 12-10-2006, 10:40 PM   #30
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The only real horses in the Iverson sweepstakes are Boston, Chicago and Charlotte imo.

Philadelphia is looking for two things:

1) Cap Space -- With Webber's deal coming off the books next season, that will free up about 20 million dollars. They are not looking to reload (Andre Miller, Nene) they are looking to get under the cap. Getting rid of Iverson (20 mill) for at least one big expiring contract is essential.

2) Young talent -- They want cheap, young talent to sell to their fanbase while they rebuild. Also, they want to make sure they continue to lose so they have the best opportunity to land the next big thing (Greg Oden). Even if the lotto balls don't fall their way, they still can get Durant or Noah. Not bad.

So who has what they want? Chicago, Boston, and Charlotte.

Boston could offer Theo Ratliff (deal expires with Webbers), Sebastian Telfair, Al Jefferson and Delonte West. Why would Philly do it? Because they get their cap space, young talent, and still remain in the hunt for the number one pick.

Picking up a guy like Andre Miller would be a lateral move for the franchise. They don't want to stay mediocre forever. They want to suck badly for two seasons, draft high in the next two drafts, and make a big splash in the free agent pool in 2008.

IMO, if Boston really wants Iverson -- and all indicators point to yes -- he is their's to lose.

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Charlotte can also do both. They are so far below the cap they needn't give anything significant back. Only young players...the question with them being if they want to.
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We aren't even in the sweepstakes anymore. GM Karl said he doesn't want Iverson right now because the team is finally developing a good chemistry and likes where they are at.

Funny how KMart goes out and this team grows more as a unit.
KMart is a SF in a PF body. He has some range and definite mobility (when his knees still worked)...but he couldn't post up even in the East.

He was deadweight on the team. Capable of getting his by virtue of the minutes he played, but only at the expense of potentially better shots or more hustle (JR Smith and Reggie Evans just as an example).

I hope he can come back...if only so we can unload him in a year or two.

I think we are stuck with him though.
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Old 12-11-2006, 12:05 PM   #32
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Charlotte can also do both. They are so far below the cap they needn't give anything significant back. Only young players...the question with them being if they want to.
The last I heard, Charlotte was 10 million under the cap. Currently, they are in first place for Greg Oden. There is no way they are going to offer their first round pick.

Considering AI makes 17.3 million dollars, Charlotte would have to offer Raymond Felton and Gerald Wallace for AI. Does that get it done? I don't know. If they sent AI packing for that, I really couldn't blame them.
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Old 12-11-2006, 02:02 PM   #33
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According to ESPN, its down to Golden State and Boston. 11 AM PST MONDAY

WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:29 PM   #35
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WHOOOOO_HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Man, I am seriously going to be disappointed if we don't land Iverson for A SECOND TIME despite being the supposed 'frontrunner' in the negotiations.

Don't **** with me, Danny Ainge.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:58 PM   #36
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Chris Brussard of ESPN just reported that the Mavericks (!) are now making a strong bid for Iverson.

AARRGGHHH!!!
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Damn, and Dallas as the horses to do it too. Stackhouse and Croshere's expiring contracts plus Devin Harris and a couple of first round picks.

Dang.

That sucks.

Big time.

I'm depressed.

Plus, Billy King can send Iverson out west like he prefers. My only hope is that Devin Harris isn't enough to entice them. Devin Harris? He's okay, but hardly a guy that should be traded for one of the greatest players ever. Blah. This sucks.
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Old 12-11-2006, 04:18 PM   #38
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Damn, and Dallas as the horses to do it too. Stackhouse and Croshere's expiring contracts plus Devin Harris and a couple of first round picks.

Dang.

That sucks.

Big time.

I'm depressed.

Plus, Billy King can send Iverson out west like he prefers. My only hope is that Devin Harris isn't enough to entice them. Devin Harris? He's okay, but hardly a guy that should be traded for one of the greatest players ever. Blah. This sucks.
I hope that this is just speculation because I wouldnt want Iverson on the Mavs. He doesnt fit the team, and he is old with a massive contract. There are too many good players on the Mavs to bring in Iverson. They will never see the ball again.

I have always wanted a 'second fiddle' player to pair with Dirk because he hasnt had a second fiddle since Nash left, and he needs more help scoring when the team gets in a rut. In those dry spells, if Dirk doesnt bail them out then nobody does.

Cuban has already said that the Mavericks are not interested in Iverson and will not trade Devin Harris. He's usually pretty straight in these situations. He could be fibbing, who knows, but the Mavs could be interested in trading expiring contracts for Boston's young talent. I could definately see them getting involved in facilitating the trade by sending Croshere to Boston for someone like Delonte West.
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Old 12-11-2006, 07:17 PM   #39
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He's an over the hill idiot.
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Breaking news: Orlando is the frontrunner for Iverson's services. They are offering Grant Hill (expiring contract), Jameer Nelson and Trevor Ariza.

****!
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I hope that this is just speculation because I wouldnt want Iverson on the Mavs. He doesnt fit the team, and he is old with a massive contract. There are too many good players on the Mavs to bring in Iverson. They will never see the ball again.

I have always wanted a 'second fiddle' player to pair with Dirk because he hasnt had a second fiddle since Nash left, and he needs more help scoring when the team gets in a rut. In those dry spells, if Dirk doesnt bail them out then nobody does.
AI has done really well sharing the spotlight with other superstars throughout his career.

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AI has done really well sharing the spotlight with other superstars throughout his career.

AI has never played with another superstar before. What he has done is take one of the weakest squads to ever make the playoffs to the NBA finals. You remember that team, Eric Snow, Aaron Mckie, and Tyrone Hill were the starters. Jumaine Jones was sixth man.
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950 The Fan reports from a "reliable source" that The Nuggets have offered JR Smith, Nene, and Eduardo Najera.

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NO J.R. Smith has too much to offer in the future. He is extremely raw and still excells. If the Nuggets are offering that up they are retarded IMO.
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950 The Fan reports from a "reliable source" that The Nuggets have offered JR Smith, Nene, and Eduardo Najera.

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and Mike Evans' source isn't even with either team, it's another reporter in Philly who claims that's what he's been told has been offered.
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and Mike Evans' source isn't even with either team, it's another reporter in Philly who claims that's what he's been told has been offered.
Yeah it was reported in an article in Philly today. I went researched it in ESPN Rumors. That is offering way too much for Iverson who is getting up there in age. J.R. shows what can come with more coaching. Nene if he can stay healthy is a force too. Eddie is a crowd favorite and hustle player. I just would not welcome giving up all 3 maybe 1 or those in a package or maybe 2 but thats me.
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950 The Fan reports from a "reliable source" that The Nuggets have offered JR Smith, Nene, and Eduardo Najera.

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Are you sure that's not Joe Smith?? I don't think that works under the CBA.
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Yeah it was reported in an article in Philly today. I went researched it in ESPN Rumors. That is offering way too much for Iverson who is getting up there in age. J.R. shows what can come with more coaching. Nene if he can stay healthy is a force too. Eddie is a crowd favorite and hustle player. I just would not welcome giving up all 3 maybe 1 or those in a package or maybe 2 but thats me.
Come on Najera?

I see Nene as a young big...and JR certainly

I see it as two assets and a throwin for cap balancing and to clear some salary for next year.

I think it honestly the minimum you'd need to acquire Iverson...as we don't have a good draft pick.

Though honestly I'm not sold on it, and it bums me out cause it keeps KG off the market.
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Come on Najera?

I see Nene as a young big...and JR certainly

I see it as two assets and a throwin for cap balancing and to clear some salary for next year.

I think it honestly the minimum you'd need to acquire Iverson...as we don't have a good draft pick.

Though honestly I'm not sold on it, and it bums me out cause it keeps KG off the market.
I would hate to trade JR but I could not care less about Nene or Eddie.

Nene may look like Tarzan but he plays like Jane. That contract is atrocious, the nuggs could have had Chris Wilcox with 2/3 of that contract at most.

Eddie being a crowd favorite is great, but Earl Boykins is also a fan favorite. That tells me all I need to know about fan favorites.

That trade would basically be JR for Alen Iverson. You do that trade all day, twice on Sundays.

What I don't like about that trade is the lack of bigman depth. Camby goes down and the Nuggs are uber screwed.
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Sixers don't have any interest in Boykins do they?

Please
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