Name the one play that defined Jake Plummer's tenure in Denver. - The Orange Mane

Taco John · 12-07-2006, 02:43 PM

What one play, good or bad, do you believe defines Jake's tenure in Denver?

theAPAOps5 · 12-07-2006, 02:44 PM

Easy it has to be the great left hand pass. Everyone talks about that one play.

Hotrod · 12-07-2006, 02:44 PM

Im not joking when I say the one where hes on the bench and gives everyone the finger except O4L and Llama.

That or the left handed pass.

theAPAOps5 · 12-07-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

Im not joking when I say the one where hes on the bench and gives everyone the finger except O4L and Llama.

That or the left handed pass.

OH man your Avitar changed back I loved watching you get called out as a Chiefs fan

bpc · 12-07-2006, 02:48 PM

Well I respect everything Plummer did in Denver. He brought us back to playoff football after the Griese era.

The play that sealed it? The fumbled shotgun snap in the 4th quarter against SD when we had a chance to get a TD that could have preserved the game. That is when his time expired.

fontaine · 12-07-2006, 02:52 PM

I think it's a bit unfair to point to the blunders like his flipping off fans or the left handed throw.

I would say, Raiders game last year:

Jake threw a completely useless int right to a raider CB who wasn't anywhere near a Denver Wideout. Raiders get the momentum back in a close game.

The very next Denver drive, the commentators, fans all were ready for another Plummer blunder but the guy came right back and completed pass after pass to get a TD.

He has his faults, but the one thing I still and always admired about Plummer was his competitive spirit and heart. The guy just wanted to play and win as much as anyone. That defined his tenure here.

Hotrod · 12-07-2006, 02:55 PM

I dont think you can toss out the finger or left handed pass(they will be remembered). I defended Plummer right up until a couple of weeks ago. The one thing I always said about him is....Jake is Jake hes a slinger you get what you get with him. The good the bad & this year the UGLY.

Hercules Rockefeller · 12-07-2006, 02:55 PM

Mine's the pick to Ty Hill against St. Louis this year, when even Hill couldn't believe that Jake threw the pass. Pressure was coming, but not there yet, and Jake pissed down his leg after staring down his WR and threw a terrible pass.

Crushaholic · 12-07-2006, 02:57 PM

Jake has never been about big plays. Before this year, he was good at doing what it took to move the chains.

Hotrod · 12-07-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

Jake has never been about big plays. Before this year, he was good at doing what it took to move the chains.

See Im not so sure about that. He was a big play/come from behind guy in AZ.

Taco John · 12-07-2006, 03:00 PM

The play that I think defined Jake's tenure in Denver was the interception before the half of the Pittsburgh game. We had an opportunity to pull the game within reach if we drive for the much needed touchdown. But instead of pulling the score to 17-10, Jake goes out on his first pass and throws an interception with an open guy streaking down the center of the field.

theAPAOps5 · 12-07-2006, 03:01 PM

He had big plays. I was at the Cleveland home game and my wife was mad because I made her stay until the end. Then he threw that pass up to Lelei and we kicked the tying FG. I looked over at my wife, then fiance, and gave her the see what you could have done woman look. She has never asked me to leave a game early again.

Crushaholic · 12-07-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

See Im not so sure about that. He was a big play/come from behind guy in AZ.

That brings up a good point. Plummer is pretty close to Elway in the number of comeback wins in his career. People don't give him enough credit for that...

bronco militia · 12-07-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

That brings up a good point. Plummer is pretty close to Elway in the number of comeback wins in his career. People don't give him enough credit for that...

19 is close?

I think he's only had two in his four years in Denver

theAPAOps5 · 12-07-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

19 is close?

I think he's only had two in his four years in Denver

Yeah he has a ton from AZ that is where the stat comes from.

Hotrod · 12-07-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

That brings up a good point. Plummer is pretty close to Elway in the number of comeback wins in his career. People don't give him enough credit for that...

Exactly and I'll throw this out for the sharks around here

IMO When you go out and take a QB like Jake you have to be willing to let him be Jake. By that I mean let him be the gun slinger that he is. He will make alot of plays and he will screw up alot of plays but by handcuffing him and trying to make an actual NFL QB out of him we took away his playmaking ability yet still got his bone headed mistakes.

Im not saying its anyones fault or Jake woulda/coulda/shoulda given more leash just pointing out what I see. Also before I get flamed by both sides I'll point out Im not a fan of the gun slinger type QB.

bpc · 12-07-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Mine's the pick to Ty Hill against St. Louis this year, when even Hill couldn't believe that Jake threw the pass. Pressure was coming, but not there yet, and Jake pissed down his leg after staring down his WR and threw a terrible pass.

HEY, I don't remember that pass and I was at the game...

OH Yeah... I was wasted by half time being forced into watching Jake the eratic open up with a 6 TO perfomance and an 0-1 record.

Somebody please tell me why Jake should be the starter again?

"JAKE COULD HAVE WON THAT SEATTLE GAME..." What about St. Louis? Why couldn't he win that game against a non-playoff team?

I laugh my a$$ off at homers all the time. Makes life fun.

Hotrod · 12-07-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

19 is close?

I think he's only had two in his four years in Denver

This actually backs up my previous post to a tee.

Popps · 12-07-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fontaine

I think it's a bit unfair to point to the blunders like his flipping off fans or the left handed throw.

I would say, Raiders game last year:

Jake threw a completely useless int right to a raider CB who wasn't anywhere near a Denver Wideout. Raiders get the momentum back in a close game.

The very next Denver drive, the commentators, fans all were ready for another Plummer blunder but the guy came right back and completed pass after pass to get a TD.

He has his faults, but the one thing I still and always admired about Plummer was his competitive spirit and heart. The guy just wanted to play and win as much as anyone. That defined his tenure here.

Nice post, and I totally agree. I've always said that what you get with Plummer is a guy that manages our system well, makes a few boneheaded throws per game, and usually does more than enough to make up for it.

We all agree that he's lost his touch, confidence, whatever you want to call it.... and we've moved on. But I think any true Broncos fan appreciates what the guy did for the franchise. He sparked us to a few winning seasons when we were in the dumps.

Now it's time for Jay to put the icing on the cake!

As for one play? For some reason, I'll always remember the diving first down against San Diego where he separated his shoulder. (And Shanahan said it was a concussion. lol!) To me that play summed up what he was about. The dude busts his shoulder, stays in the game... and throws a TD.
Nothing fancy, just doing the little things that are so important, but don't always translate into stats. (Unless you count wins as a stat.)

24champ · 12-07-2006, 03:11 PM

I'll be positive, the bootleg he ran in for a TD against the Raiders and he kicked the ball for celebration. Think that was his first home game, no?

bronco militia · 12-07-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

This actually backs up my previous post to a tee.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...986392,00.html

bpc · 12-07-2006, 03:16 PM

What about the horribly thrown fade pass three years ago in SD that got picked and cost us the AFC West on 1st down?

I'll look fondly on Jake for the way we won in his tenure and for the way he fought his butt off every play... lets be honest though, he was never going to win a championship here.

Jay represents our future. What that is, good or bad, we need to find out now. After his 1st start, I have a lot of optimism.

BlaK-Argentina · 12-07-2006, 03:17 PM

It's pretty amazing that most of you bring up BAD plays to define his Denver career.

He was a VERY GOOD QB for us.

To me probably in 2003 against Cleveland in OT after a bootleg where he ran to his left and dove head-first for a 1st down. That showed me that it was going to be fun having Jake around.

theAPAOps5 · 12-07-2006, 03:20 PM

I disagree about not being a negative play. The left hand play, while negative, is unforgetible. It also showed that he will do anything to make a play even if it backfires. Yeah it was a TO but I don't think its entirely negative. JMO

-Slap- · 12-07-2006, 03:20 PM

Eh, I'm not going to talk about one of the negative plays. He did more positive than negative things in his time as the starter.

I think the best memories of him will be the times he really sold the bootleg and had the entire defense going the wrong way.

12-07-2006, 02:43 PM	#1
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,706 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Name the one play that defined Jake Plummer's tenure in Denver. What one play, good or bad, do you believe defines Jake's tenure in Denver?

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12-07-2006, 02:44 PM	#2
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Easy it has to be the great left hand pass. Everyone talks about that one play.

12-07-2006, 02:44 PM	#3
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	Im not joking when I say the one where hes on the bench and gives everyone the finger except O4L and Llama. That or the left handed pass.

12-07-2006, 02:48 PM	#5
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Well I respect everything Plummer did in Denver. He brought us back to playoff football after the Griese era. The play that sealed it? The fumbled shotgun snap in the 4th quarter against SD when we had a chance to get a TD that could have preserved the game. That is when his time expired.

12-07-2006, 02:52 PM	#6
fontaine Ring of Famer Go John Manning! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,429	I think it's a bit unfair to point to the blunders like his flipping off fans or the left handed throw. I would say, Raiders game last year: Jake threw a completely useless int right to a raider CB who wasn't anywhere near a Denver Wideout. Raiders get the momentum back in a close game. The very next Denver drive, the commentators, fans all were ready for another Plummer blunder but the guy came right back and completed pass after pass to get a TD. He has his faults, but the one thing I still and always admired about Plummer was his competitive spirit and heart. The guy just wanted to play and win as much as anyone. That defined his tenure here.

12-07-2006, 02:55 PM	#7
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	I dont think you can toss out the finger or left handed pass(they will be remembered). I defended Plummer right up until a couple of weeks ago. The one thing I always said about him is....Jake is Jake hes a slinger you get what you get with him. The good the bad & this year the UGLY.

12-07-2006, 02:55 PM	#8
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Mine's the pick to Ty Hill against St. Louis this year, when even Hill couldn't believe that Jake threw the pass. Pressure was coming, but not there yet, and Jake pissed down his leg after staring down his WR and threw a terrible pass.

12-07-2006, 02:57 PM	#9
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,044	Jake has never been about big plays. Before this year, he was good at doing what it took to move the chains.

12-07-2006, 03:00 PM	#11
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,706 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	The play that I think defined Jake's tenure in Denver was the interception before the half of the Pittsburgh game. We had an opportunity to pull the game within reach if we drive for the much needed touchdown. But instead of pulling the score to 17-10, Jake goes out on his first pass and throws an interception with an open guy streaking down the center of the field.

12-07-2006, 03:01 PM	#12
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	He had big plays. I was at the Cleveland home game and my wife was mad because I made her stay until the end. Then he threw that pass up to Lelei and we kicked the tying FG. I looked over at my wife, then fiance, and gave her the see what you could have done woman look. She has never asked me to leave a game early again.

12-07-2006, 03:11 PM	#20
24champ Livin' the dream! Methwolfe Alliance Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 18,548 Adopt-a-Bronco: DomCasual	I'll be positive, the bootleg he ran in for a TD against the Raiders and he kicked the ball for celebration. Think that was his first home game, no?

12-07-2006, 03:16 PM	#22
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	What about the horribly thrown fade pass three years ago in SD that got picked and cost us the AFC West on 1st down? I'll look fondly on Jake for the way we won in his tenure and for the way he fought his butt off every play... lets be honest though, he was never going to win a championship here. Jay represents our future. What that is, good or bad, we need to find out now. After his 1st start, I have a lot of optimism.

12-07-2006, 03:17 PM	#23
BlaK-Argentina Pampita says... ... support your team! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina. Posts: 5,174 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	It's pretty amazing that most of you bring up BAD plays to define his Denver career. He was a VERY GOOD QB for us. To me probably in 2003 against Cleveland in OT after a bootleg where he ran to his left and dove head-first for a 1st down. That showed me that it was going to be fun having Jake around.

12-07-2006, 03:20 PM	#24
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	I disagree about not being a negative play. The left hand play, while negative, is unforgetible. It also showed that he will do anything to make a play even if it backfires. Yeah it was a TO but I don't think its entirely negative. JMO

12-07-2006, 03:20 PM	#25
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Eh, I'm not going to talk about one of the negative plays. He did more positive than negative things in his time as the starter. I think the best memories of him will be the times he really sold the bootleg and had the entire defense going the wrong way.