Dip sues over dip: "It just didn't taste avocadoey" - The Orange Mane

Taco John · 11-30-2006, 07:06 PM

Guacamole lawsuit: Where's the avocado?

The Associated Press
Posted November 30 2006, 8:24 AM EST

LOS ANGELES -- Wholly guacamole?

That's the issue in a fraud lawsuit filed Wednesday against Kraft Foods, Inc., by a Los Angeles woman who claims the company's avocado dip doesn't qualify as guacamole.

"It just didn't taste avocadoey," said Brenda Lifsey, who used Kraft Dips Guacamole in a three-layer dip last year. "I looked at the ingredients and found there was almost no avocado in it."

She is seeking unspecified damages and a Superior Court order barring Kraft from calling its dip guacamole. Her suit seeks class-action status.

The Kraft product contains modified food starch, coconut and soybean oils, corn syrup and food coloring. It is less than 2 percent avocado, which in traditional recipes is the main ingredient of the Mexican dish.

The government doesn't have any requirements on how much avocado a product must contain to be labeled guacamole, said Michael Herndon, a spokesman for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

Northfield, Ill.-based Kraft said it had not seen the lawsuit but believed it was not deceiving anyone.

"We think customers understand that it isn't made from avocado," Claire Regan, Kraft Foods' vice president of corporate affairs, told the Los Angeles Times. "All of the ingredients are listed on the label for consumers to reference."

However, the company will relabel the product to make it clearer that the dip is guacamole-flavored, Regan said.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nat...wsnation-front

Rohirrim · 11-30-2006, 07:10 PM

Damn right, lady! Let's hear it for guacamole purity. Man! I'm gonna organize a march.

Taco John · 11-30-2006, 07:13 PM

I could be wrong... But I think California is the only state in the union that could manufacture such a lawsuit.

Rohirrim · 11-30-2006, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

I could be wrong... But I think California is the only state in the union that could manufacture such a lawsuit.

Californians are serious about their guacamole.

Isn't that where they had the lawsuit of the woman who spilled McD's coffee in her lap and then sued because the coffee was too hot?

yavoon · 11-30-2006, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Californians are serious about their guacamole.

Isn't that where they had the lawsuit of the woman who spilled McD's coffee in her lap and then sued because the coffee was too hot?

kinda, I thought she sued because the word hot as warning on the coffee was in too small a type.

epicSocialism4tw · 11-30-2006, 09:28 PM

Weird.

Although there is some merit to challenging what appears to be false advertising. False advertising is out of hand in the US these days.

-Slap- · 11-30-2006, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Californians are serious about their guacamole.

Isn't that where they had the lawsuit of the woman who spilled McD's coffee in her lap and then sued because the coffee was too hot?

That was a perfectly justified lawsuit. McDonalds was clearly in the wrong and part of the judgement forced them to stop serving coffee at scalding temperatures.

-Slap- · 11-30-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by yavoon

kinda, I thought she sued because the word hot as warning on the coffee was in too small a type.

She sued because she was given coffee at over 180 degrees in a styrofoam cup. She suffered third degree burns to her genitals and the temperature was so severe her pantyhose melted. She was also an elderly lady.

Why on earth would anybody think serving coffee at almost 200 degrees was a smart thing to do?

yavoon · 11-30-2006, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

She sued because she was given coffee at over 180 degrees in a styrofoam cup. She suffered third degree burns to her genitals and the temperature was so severe her pantyhose melted. She was also an elderly lady.

Why on earth would anybody think serving coffee at almost 200 degrees was a smart thing to do?

they did it for shelf life. but hey they paid like a million dollars right?

Taco John · 12-01-2006, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by yavoon

they did it for shelf life. but hey they paid like a million dollars right?

I think that probably went mostly to medical bills. Skin grafts and two years of post-op therapy aren't cheap line items.

And for the record, she initially only asked them for $20,000 to help with medical costs, but McDonalds refused, offering only $800. That's when the lawyers got involved.

In the end, it was McDonald's own testimony which said that any foods hotter than 140 degrees constitued a burn hazard that lost the case for them.

baja · 12-01-2006, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

I think that probably went mostly to medical bills. Skin grafts and two years of post-op therapy aren't cheap line items.

And for the record, she initially only asked them for $20,000 to help with medical costs, but McDonalds refused, offering only $800. That's when the lawyers got involved.

In the end, it was McDonald's own testimony which said that any foods hotter than 140 degrees constitued a burn hazard that lost the case for them.

I never knew the details of that story thanks that clears up a few things.

elsid13 · 12-01-2006, 09:08 AM

Really did she really think that she would get quality Guacamole from Kraft?

She might as well sue McDonald's for saying they sell hamburgers or Pork BBQ.

Rohirrim · 12-01-2006, 09:47 AM

What always gets me is the Kraft recipes where they try to get as many of their products into one dish that they can think of, so you end up with some kind of concoction made out of Miracle Whip and Velveeta, or something.

baja · 12-01-2006, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

What always gets me is the Kraft recipes where they try to get as many of their products into one dish that they can think of, so you end up with some kind of concoction made out of Miracle Whip and Velveeta, or something.

I think Kraft is actually an arm of the Social Security Service that is mandated to market products that are designed to kill you after 40 or 50 years of consumption thus keeping people from collecting SS checks too long.

defenseman · 12-01-2006, 10:12 AM

Frivalous lawsuits, are one of our downfalls in this country. Bottom line is, if you don't like the product, don't buy it any more. Switch brands....dman

*too sue over this is just plain stupid, then again, in California? Not surprising. Land of fruits and nuts..

baja · 12-01-2006, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defenseman

Frivalous lawsuits, are one of our downfalls in this country. Bottom line is, if you don't like the product, don't buy it any more. Switch brands....dman

*too sue over this is just plain stupid, then again, in California? Not surprising. Land of fruits and nuts..

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html

US locations with the highest gay populations.

RANK | CITY | PERCENTAGE

1 San Francisco 15.4

2 Seattle 12.9

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3 Atlanta 12.8
4 Minneapolis 12.5

5 Boston 12.3

6 Oakland 12.1

7 Sacramento 9.8

8 Portland, Ore. 8.8

9 Denver 8.2

10 Long Beach8.1

11. US Subs 24.8

Source: The Williams Institute

defenseman · 12-01-2006, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja fan

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html

US locations with the highest gay populations.

RANK | CITY | PERCENTAGE

1 San Francisco 15.4

2 Seattle 12.9

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3 Atlanta 12.8
4 Minneapolis 12.5

5 Boston 12.3

6 Oakland 12.1

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9 Denver 8.2

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Now that's funny, good one

.....dman

alkemical · 12-01-2006, 12:51 PM

I heard all about the stories of the 'limp biscuit' dman -

defenseman · 12-01-2006, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

I heard all about the stories of the 'limp biscuit' dman -

What stories would that be..?...dman

alkemical · 12-01-2006, 01:28 PM

Dman,

I know some old navy guys - and i've heard of some of the things that go on at sea -

It applies very much to the navy's slogan "if you don't like it, you aren't gay".

W*GS · 12-01-2006, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

That was a perfectly justified lawsuit. McDonalds was clearly in the wrong and part of the judgement forced them to stop serving coffee at scalding temperatures.

There's a strong difference of opinion on the merits of that suit.

http://www.stellaawards.com

W*GS · 12-01-2006, 01:38 PM

What's that old Navy saying?

A sub leaves port with 200 sailors and comes back with 100 couples...

-Slap- · 12-01-2006, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W*GS

There's a strong difference of opinion on the merits of that suit.

http://www.stellaawards.com

Its pretty obvious the authors of that book and website are simply trying to cash in on frivolous lawsuits from a different direction.

W*GS · 12-01-2006, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Its pretty obvious the authors of that book and website are simply trying to cash in on frivolous lawsuits from a different direction.

Whatever you say... Some of the cases that get sent around on the mailing list are truly astonishing in their chutzpah...

defenseman · 12-01-2006, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W*GS

What's that old Navy saying?

A sub leaves port with 200 sailors and comes back with 100 couples...

There is no "navy" saying which says this. A story perhaps, or a running joke wrt "bubbleheads", however, trust me no truth to it. Foreign port "sweeties" flock to the pier when "boat" sailors make a port visit. What I could tell you about the austrailian sweeties, holy cow. Talk about looking for action, you literally had to fight them off during many of the port visits I made there. A single man's heaven for sure...dman

*Got many many stories, but not for these threads for sure. Westpac was definitely where it was at..

11-30-2006, 07:06 PM	#1
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,705 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Dip sues over dip: "It just didn't taste avocadoey" Guacamole lawsuit: Where's the avocado? The Associated Press Posted November 30 2006, 8:24 AM EST LOS ANGELES -- Wholly guacamole? That's the issue in a fraud lawsuit filed Wednesday against Kraft Foods, Inc., by a Los Angeles woman who claims the company's avocado dip doesn't qualify as guacamole. "It just didn't taste avocadoey," said Brenda Lifsey, who used Kraft Dips Guacamole in a three-layer dip last year. "I looked at the ingredients and found there was almost no avocado in it." She is seeking unspecified damages and a Superior Court order barring Kraft from calling its dip guacamole. Her suit seeks class-action status. The Kraft product contains modified food starch, coconut and soybean oils, corn syrup and food coloring. It is less than 2 percent avocado, which in traditional recipes is the main ingredient of the Mexican dish. The government doesn't have any requirements on how much avocado a product must contain to be labeled guacamole, said Michael Herndon, a spokesman for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. Northfield, Ill.-based Kraft said it had not seen the lawsuit but believed it was not deceiving anyone. "We think customers understand that it isn't made from avocado," Claire Regan, Kraft Foods' vice president of corporate affairs, told the Los Angeles Times. "All of the ingredients are listed on the label for consumers to reference." However, the company will relabel the product to make it clearer that the dip is guacamole-flavored, Regan said. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nat...wsnation-front

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11-30-2006, 07:10 PM	#2
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,842	Damn right, lady! Let's hear it for guacamole purity. Man! I'm gonna organize a march.

11-30-2006, 07:13 PM	#3
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,705 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I could be wrong... But I think California is the only state in the union that could manufacture such a lawsuit.

11-30-2006, 09:28 PM	#6
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Weird. Although there is some merit to challenging what appears to be false advertising. False advertising is out of hand in the US these days.

12-01-2006, 09:08 AM	#12
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,087	Really did she really think that she would get quality Guacamole from Kraft? She might as well sue McDonald's for saying they sell hamburgers or Pork BBQ.

12-01-2006, 09:47 AM	#13
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,842	What always gets me is the Kraft recipes where they try to get as many of their products into one dish that they can think of, so you end up with some kind of concoction made out of Miracle Whip and Velveeta, or something.

12-01-2006, 10:12 AM	#15
defenseman Ring of Famer 2007 record pred. (7-9) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,232	Frivalous lawsuits, are one of our downfalls in this country. Bottom line is, if you don't like the product, don't buy it any more. Switch brands....dman *too sue over this is just plain stupid, then again, in California? Not surprising. Land of fruits and nuts..

12-01-2006, 12:51 PM	#18
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,696 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	I heard all about the stories of the 'limp biscuit' dman -

12-01-2006, 01:28 PM	#20
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,696 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Dman, I know some old navy guys - and i've heard of some of the things that go on at sea - It applies very much to the navy's slogan "if you don't like it, you aren't gay".

12-01-2006, 01:38 PM	#22
W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,511	What's that old Navy saying? A sub leaves port with 200 sailors and comes back with 100 couples...