Who is the better start? Cutler vs. Seattle or Carson vs. Baltimore? - The Orange Mane

Taco John · 11-28-2006, 01:36 AM

I have Kitna as well, but I'm not even going to go there.

Clockwork Orange · 11-28-2006, 02:44 AM

Palmer. The Ratbirds secondary can be beaten by the deep ball and the Bengals love to throw it.

Kaylore · 11-28-2006, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Palmer. The Ratbirds secondary can be beaten by the deep ball and the Bengals love to throw it.

Wow I couldn't disagree more. The Ravens D have owned all year especially their front four and Palmer's line is average.

Seabags have the 18th ranked passing defense in the NFL and Holmgren is owned by Shanahan.

Clockwork Orange · 11-28-2006, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Wow I couldn't disagree more. The Ravens D have owned all year especially their front four and Palmer's line is average.

Seabags have the 18th ranked passing defense in the NFL and Holmgren is owned by Shanahan.

Their pass rush is good, but they can be had by the deep ball. I've had their defense all year and when they're not racking up sacks (or facing Jake Plummer) they're giving up large chunks of yardage.

Samari Rolle is nowhere near what he used to be.

Kaylore · 11-29-2006, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Their pass rush is good, but they can be had by the deep ball. I've had their defense all year and when they're not racking up sacks (or facing Jake Plummer) they're giving up large chunks of yardage.

Samari Rolle is nowhere near what he used to be.

Their defense is still the number on fantasy defense in the league and the Bengals o-line sucks. I have to choose between the Seahawks D and the Ravens D for this weekend. Not sure what to pick...

Hotrod · 11-29-2006, 10:32 AM

Im actually thinking about starting him in the NPN playoffs (Cutler) of course my other options are Ben Barfburger/TrINT Green so take it for what its worth

Mile High Shack · 11-29-2006, 10:33 AM

Palmer w/o a doubt

the biggest weakness of the ratbirds is the deep ball

playing at home..national TV?

you never start a rookie in his first start ever

take off the orange colored glasses when making fantasy choices

Arkansas Bronco · 11-29-2006, 10:40 AM

In the league which I have already been killed (3-9 record) I am starting Cutler over Brady this week. This just adds even more fuel to the fire

Mile High Shack · 11-29-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Arkansas Bronco

In the league which I have already been killed (3-9 record) I am starting Cutler over Brady this week. This just adds even more fuel to the fire

lol
I can see that since you have no chance of making the playoffs

but if you were in the playoffs, you wouldn't start him would you?

Rascal · 11-29-2006, 06:43 PM

Wow...talk about homerish to even consider it.

Crushaholic · 11-29-2006, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

Im actually thinking about starting him in the NPN playoffs (Cutler) of course my other options are Ben Barfburger/TrINT Green so take it for what its worth

I usually don't get involved in fantasy football discussions, but I think Green will have a good game (unfortunately).

theAPAOps5 · 11-29-2006, 06:46 PM

I voted Palmer. His stats have been pretty good the last few weeks and suggests he might be getting back in full grove again. Cutler making his first start in primetime, its cold, and against a decent team. He might do great but chances are he probably will have some DOH plays as well.

ludo21 · 11-29-2006, 07:05 PM

Palmer will go for a couple TD's and a pick.

Cutler may go for 1 td maybe 2.

It really is a tough decision, but Palmer would be my guy, I got the Bengals pulling the upset unfortunately.

ØrangeÇrush · 11-29-2006, 09:34 PM

look at past performance. Palmer lights up Baltimore. Hell even earlier this year, if a TJ Houshawhada gets the PI that should have been called for his mugging than they're in business and driving for the win. Palmer and Johnson have been lighting them up for 2 years now. Nothings changed.

Arkansas Bronco · 11-30-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

lol
I can see that since you have no chance of making the playoffs

but if you were in the playoffs, you wouldn't start him would you?

No. Palmer is on a passing team, if Cutler can come in and open up our passing game Shanny will try and get the run going again.

Taco John · 11-30-2006, 07:43 PM

I'm putting in Palmer. The way he's been playing lately makes him a must start. I'm thinking of packaging him and Gore to get LT next year though. The guy who has LT needs a QB, and also has LJ. He'll probably shoot down the offer, but somebody in the league needs to break those two up!

Jens1893 · 11-30-2006, 08:49 PM

Palmer has 102 yards passing thru 1 quarter so far ...

minibronco · 12-03-2006, 04:20 AM

The Bengals one-dimensional (passing) offense is heating up, and you never know if the Broncos will get it done on the ground or the air... it's safer to take Palmer in Cutler's first week and see how the rookie does against Seattle first.

Rascal · 12-04-2006, 07:30 PM

Bump to those that said Cutler.

!!

I'm sorry I don't care how big of a fan you are, it is stupid to even think Cutler was worth starting over Palmer in that situation. If you think otherwise I would like for you to play in fantasy league next year.

Taco John · 12-06-2006, 06:06 PM

I wasn't comfortable with either match-up. Cutler being a rookie, and Palmer going against Baltimore... My general theory is you go with the fantasy stud no matter what the match-up is, but Carson Palmer hasn't been exactly a stud all year. Thankfully, though, I put in Palmer and got his 16 points. It wasn't enough to win the match-up though. Oddly enough, I ended up getting screwed by Denver's defense.

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11-28-2006, 01:36 AM	#1
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,706 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Who is the better start? Cutler vs. Seattle or Carson vs. Baltimore? I have Kitna as well, but I'm not even going to go there.

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11-28-2006, 02:44 AM	#2
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Palmer. The Ratbirds secondary can be beaten by the deep ball and the Bengals love to throw it.

11-29-2006, 10:32 AM	#6
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	Im actually thinking about starting him in the NPN playoffs (Cutler) of course my other options are Ben Barfburger/TrINT Green so take it for what its worth

11-29-2006, 10:33 AM	#7
Mile High Shack Ring of Famer Cock-a-doodle-do Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 17,010	Palmer w/o a doubt the biggest weakness of the ratbirds is the deep ball playing at home..national TV? you never start a rookie in his first start ever take off the orange colored glasses when making fantasy choices

11-29-2006, 10:40 AM	#8
Arkansas Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,237 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	In the league which I have already been killed (3-9 record) I am starting Cutler over Brady this week. This just adds even more fuel to the fire

11-29-2006, 06:43 PM	#10
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	Wow...talk about homerish to even consider it.

11-29-2006, 06:46 PM	#12
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	I voted Palmer. His stats have been pretty good the last few weeks and suggests he might be getting back in full grove again. Cutler making his first start in primetime, its cold, and against a decent team. He might do great but chances are he probably will have some DOH plays as well.

11-29-2006, 07:05 PM	#13
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,906 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Palmer will go for a couple TD's and a pick. Cutler may go for 1 td maybe 2. It really is a tough decision, but Palmer would be my guy, I got the Bengals pulling the upset unfortunately.

11-29-2006, 09:34 PM	#14
ØrangeÇrush Aaaayh!!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,371	look at past performance. Palmer lights up Baltimore. Hell even earlier this year, if a TJ Houshawhada gets the PI that should have been called for his mugging than they're in business and driving for the win. Palmer and Johnson have been lighting them up for 2 years now. Nothings changed.

11-30-2006, 07:43 PM	#16
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,706 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I'm putting in Palmer. The way he's been playing lately makes him a must start. I'm thinking of packaging him and Gore to get LT next year though. The guy who has LT needs a QB, and also has LJ. He'll probably shoot down the offer, but somebody in the league needs to break those two up!

11-30-2006, 08:49 PM	#17
Jens1893 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: People´s Republic of Bad Cannstatt Posts: 9,170	Palmer has 102 yards passing thru 1 quarter so far ...

12-03-2006, 04:20 AM	#18
minibronco KFFL Writer/Fantasy Scout Defense: 11 Strong Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The OC Posts: 2,474	The Bengals one-dimensional (passing) offense is heating up, and you never know if the Broncos will get it done on the ground or the air... it's safer to take Palmer in Cutler's first week and see how the rookie does against Seattle first.

12-04-2006, 07:30 PM	#19
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	Bump to those that said Cutler. !! I'm sorry I don't care how big of a fan you are, it is stupid to even think Cutler was worth starting over Palmer in that situation. If you think otherwise I would like for you to play in fantasy league next year.

12-06-2006, 06:06 PM	#20
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,706 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I wasn't comfortable with either match-up. Cutler being a rookie, and Palmer going against Baltimore... My general theory is you go with the fantasy stud no matter what the match-up is, but Carson Palmer hasn't been exactly a stud all year. Thankfully, though, I put in Palmer and got his 16 points. It wasn't enough to win the match-up though. Oddly enough, I ended up getting screwed by Denver's defense.