Is PA Bob Casey a fraud? - The Orange Mane

Barry Ramey · 11-14-2006, 11:38 PM

Casey Ran as "Pro-Life"; His First Act Seeks "Sexual Orientation" Hate Crime Law
Touted as pro-life and pro-family moderate who values his Catholic faith

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/nov/06111403.html

By Meg Jalsevac

SCRANTON, PA, November 14, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Within 24 hours of winning the bitter Pennsylvanian Senate race against incumbent Republican Rick Santorum, Democrat Senator-elect Bob Casey, Jr. let his real agendas show through. Citizenlink.org has reported that, the very day after the election, Casey announced that he would work in support of legislation to increase the scope of federal hate crimes law to encompass sexual orientation and gender identity as a victim group.

Casey was chosen by the Democratic party to run against Santorum because of his supposedly moderate Democratic views. Throughout the election race, Casey’s campaign touted him as a pro-life and pro-family moderate candidate who valued his Catholic faith.

However, Casey was immediately and unabashedly backed in his election bid by the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), a pro-gay activist group. On the HRC website, it claims “HRC flexed its political muscle and launched an extensive and strategic campaign in partnership with local organizations that resulted in a clear victory for fair-minded candidate Casey.”

According to the website, HRC raised over $375,000 for Casey’s campaign. It also claims that it supplied 4 office staffers and hundreds of volunteers to encourage Pennsylvanians to vote.

Casey thanked HRC the day after the election saying, “HRC got behind my campaign early and has been a tremendous help. I look forward to working with HRC’s incredible staff and membership, especially to advance hate-crimes legislation in the Senate.”

In several election surveys Casey admitted that he opposed gay marriage but that he would support homosexual unions. In October of last year, Casey was quoted in The Philadelphia Jewish Voice as saying “I don't support gay marriage, but I also don't support a constitutional amendment banning it. That would be tremendously divisive. However, I do support same sex unions that would give gay couples all the rights, privileges and protections of marriage.”

Casey also admitted in similar surveys that he would support legislation that would increase penalties for crimes committed against an individual because of their sexual orientation.

Diane Gramley, president of the American Family Association of Pennsylvania, said, “It didn’t take long for his true colors to show throw. Too Many Pennsylvanians were misled and misinformed by Mr. Casey's campaign rhetoric."

Adding sexual orientation verbage to hate-crime legislation is a threat to the First Amendment rights of all Americans who oppose homosexuality. Gramley said, "Right here in Pennsylvania we know what hate-crimes legislation that includes 'sexual orientation' and 'gender identity' can mean to Christians. In 2004 we witnessed 11 Christians being arrested and charged with a hate crime for simply reading Scripture and singing choruses at a homosexual event."

The event that Gramley referred to happened in October 2004 when 11 Christian protestors were arrested and held in jail for 21 hours on various charges. The protesters were protesting OutFest, a homosexual festival held in Philadelphia. The protesters were swarmed by members of a homosexual group but only the Christian protesters were taken into custody by police.

Soon after the event, it surfaced that the homosexual group had planned their actions well before the actual event. The coordinator of the homosexual event said “It's our event, and we're not going to permit vendors or community groups that conflict with the theme of the event.” He also publicly admitted that their actions infringed on the First Amendment rights of the Christians. No charges were brought against any of the homosexual individuals.

Canada and several other countries recently passed hate-crime legislation which included ‘sexual orientation’ as a specific victim group. Within those jurisdictions there have been several instances of individuals, particularly clergy members, being prosecuted for speaking out about the immorality of homosexuality.

Santorum, decisively beaten by a 20% margin by Casey, was nationally renowned for his conservative views, especially on issues of life and family. He had previously voted against legislation that had attempted to include sexual orientation under the hate-crime umbrella.

Too late, Pennsylvania voters are finding out the hard way that Senator-elect Casey’s actions will speak much louder than his words.

JCMElway · 11-14-2006, 11:50 PM

Sounds pretty good to me!

alkemical · 11-15-2006, 10:53 AM

I voted for casey. There were no 3rd parties this year, and santorum had to go.

TailgateNut · 11-15-2006, 10:59 AM

I have no problem with protecting the citizens of this nation regardless of their "orientation". Bigots have a problem with equal rights for all!

Bronco_Beerslug · 11-15-2006, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

Casey Ran as "Pro-Life"; His First Act Seeks "Sexual Orientation" Hate Crime Law
Touted as pro-life and pro-family moderate who values his Catholic faith

Ah, Mary Ramey's hatred for Gays takes another setback. Your whole agenda appears to be in jeopardy now. But I have a solution for you. I'll gather a list of countries that have laws against Gays and maybe you could move to one of them?

Bronco_Beerslug · 11-15-2006, 11:43 AM

Countries that have laws against Gays.....

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Country	Laws against homosexuality	Max. Penalty	Min. Penalty	Same-sex Unions	Laws against discrimination	Comments
Algeria	Yes	3 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Algeria
Angola	Yes	Unknown	Unknown	-	No
Benin	Yes	3 years	Unknown	-	No
Botswana	Yes	7 years	Fine	-	No

☆Cameroon	Yes	5 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Cameroon

Eritrea	Yes	3 years	10 days	-	No	See Gay rights in Eritrea
Ethiopia	Yes	3 years	10 days	-	No	See Gay rights in Ethiopia

Gambia	Yes	14 years	Fine	-	No
☆Ghana	Yes	?	?	-	No	See Gay rights in Ghana
Guinea	Yes	3 years	6 months	-	No
Guinea Bissau	Yes	?	?	-	No

Liberia	Yes	Fine	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Liberia
Libya	Yes	5 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Libya

Malawi	Yes	14 years	Unknown	-	No

Mauritania	Yes	Death	Death	-	No	See Gay rights in Mauritania
Mauritius	Yes	5 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Mauritius
☆Morocco	Yes	3 years	6 months	-	No	See Gay rights in Morocco
Mozambique	Yes	3 years	Fine	-	No

São Tomé and Príncipe	Yes	?	?	-	No
Senegal	Yes	5 years	1 month	-	No	See Gay rights in Senegal
Seychelles	Yes	Unknown	Unknown	-	No	See Gay rights in Seychelles
Sierra Leone	Yes	Life	-	-	The Anti-Corruption Commission stated in a press release that in a bid to attract competent and qualified staff, they operate a transparent recruitment policy, which even forbids discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
Somalia	Yes	3 years	3 months	-	No	Areas under Sharia have instituted death for men and women.

Tanzania	Yes	Life	-	-	No	In Zanzibar male homosexual acts are punished with up to 25 years imprisonment or fine. Lesbian acts are punished with up 7 years imprisonment or fine.
Togo	Yes	3 years	Fine	-	No
Tunisia	Yes	3 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Tunisia

Country	Laws against homosexuality	Max. Penalty	Min. Penalty	Same-sex Unions	Laws against discrimination	Comments
☆Afghanistan	Yes	15 years	5 years	-	No	Homosexuality is still a crime, but the death penalty (imposed under the Taliban) is no longer used. The Penal Code from 1976 in force, stipulates long imprisonment for adultery and pederasty. See Gay rights in Afghanistan.
☆Bahrain	Male only	10 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Bahrain
Bangladesh	Yes	Life	10 years	-	No	See Gay rights in Bangladesh
Bhutan	Yes	?	?	-	No	See Gay rights in Bhutan
Brunei	Yes	10 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Brunei

Iran	Yes	Death	Death (but many are imprisoned or pardoned "under the table")	-	No	Sex change operations have been given official government support as means to cure a gender identity disease. Law in Iran, in general, is not formally in order and is often abused by government officials. Executions for homosexuality continue, most recently teenagers Mahmoud Asgari and Ayaz Marhoni. See LGBT rights in Iran.

☆Lebanon	Yes	1 year	Fine	-	No	A small public campaign exists to legalize homosexual relations between consenting adults in private. See Gay rights in Lebanon.

☆United Arab Emirates	Yes	Death	Unknown	-	No	See Gay rights in the United Arab Emirates.

Sri Lanka	Yes	10 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Sri Lanka
Syria	Yes	3 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Syria

Yemen	Yes	Death	Flogging	-	No	See Gay rights in Yemen

Barry Ramey · 11-15-2006, 11:43 AM

Hate gays? So you think I hate you? Come now, I feel more sorry for you than anything. I'm sure you can find a hate Jew article to post since you've done so many already. Oh, great debate skills there. I love your liberal open mindedness and tolerance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Ah, Mary Ramey's hatred for Gays takes another setback. Your whole agenda appears to be in jeopardy now. But I have a solution for you. I'll gather a list of countries that have laws against Gays and maybe you could move to one of them?

Barry Ramey · 11-15-2006, 11:45 AM

Wow, I'm impressed. Looks like a lot of Muslim countries in there. Do you have a list of countries that hate Jews and America that you should move to? Oops, of course you do

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Countries that have laws against Gays.....

--------------------------------------------------------

Country	Laws against homosexuality	Max. Penalty	Min. Penalty	Same-sex Unions	Laws against discrimination	Comments
Algeria	Yes	3 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Algeria
Angola	Yes	Unknown	Unknown	-	No
Benin	Yes	3 years	Unknown	-	No
Botswana	Yes	7 years	Fine	-	No

☆Cameroon	Yes	5 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Cameroon

Eritrea	Yes	3 years	10 days	-	No	See Gay rights in Eritrea
Ethiopia	Yes	3 years	10 days	-	No	See Gay rights in Ethiopia

Gambia	Yes	14 years	Fine	-	No
☆Ghana	Yes	?	?	-	No	See Gay rights in Ghana
Guinea	Yes	3 years	6 months	-	No
Guinea Bissau	Yes	?	?	-	No

Liberia	Yes	Fine	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Liberia
Libya	Yes	5 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Libya

Malawi	Yes	14 years	Unknown	-	No

Mauritania	Yes	Death	Death	-	No	See Gay rights in Mauritania
Mauritius	Yes	5 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Mauritius
☆Morocco	Yes	3 years	6 months	-	No	See Gay rights in Morocco
Mozambique	Yes	3 years	Fine	-	No

São Tomé and Príncipe	Yes	?	?	-	No
Senegal	Yes	5 years	1 month	-	No	See Gay rights in Senegal
Seychelles	Yes	Unknown	Unknown	-	No	See Gay rights in Seychelles
Sierra Leone	Yes	Life	-	-	The Anti-Corruption Commission stated in a press release that in a bid to attract competent and qualified staff, they operate a transparent recruitment policy, which even forbids discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
Somalia	Yes	3 years	3 months	-	No	Areas under Sharia have instituted death for men and women.

Tanzania	Yes	Life	-	-	No	In Zanzibar male homosexual acts are punished with up to 25 years imprisonment or fine. Lesbian acts are punished with up 7 years imprisonment or fine.
Togo	Yes	3 years	Fine	-	No
Tunisia	Yes	3 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Tunisia

Country	Laws against homosexuality	Max. Penalty	Min. Penalty	Same-sex Unions	Laws against discrimination	Comments
☆Afghanistan	Yes	15 years	5 years	-	No	Homosexuality is still a crime, but the death penalty (imposed under the Taliban) is no longer used. The Penal Code from 1976 in force, stipulates long imprisonment for adultery and pederasty. See Gay rights in Afghanistan.
☆Bahrain	Male only	10 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Bahrain
Bangladesh	Yes	Life	10 years	-	No	See Gay rights in Bangladesh
Bhutan	Yes	?	?	-	No	See Gay rights in Bhutan
Brunei	Yes	10 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Brunei

ran	Yes	Death	Death (but many are imprisoned or pardoned "under the table")	-	No	Sex change operations have been given official government support as means to cure a gender identity disease. Law in Iran, in general, is not formally in order and is often abused by government officials. Executions for homosexuality continue, most recently teenagers Mahmoud Asgari and Ayaz Marhoni. See LGBT rights in Iran.

☆Lebanon	Yes	1 year	Fine	-	No	A small public campaign exists to legalize homosexual relations between consenting adults in private. See Gay rights in Lebanon.

☆United Arab Emirates	Yes	Death	Unknown	-	No	See Gay rights in the United Arab Emirates.

Sri Lanka	Yes	10 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Sri Lanka
Syria	Yes	3 years	Fine	-	No	See Gay rights in Syria

Yemen	Yes	Death	Flogging	-	No	See Gay rights in Yemen

bendog · 11-15-2006, 12:05 PM

Wow, now it offends conservatives that we punish people for attacking others cause of their color or religion or whom they they have sex with. I'll make Barry a deal. His and his ilk get the **** out of my party, and I'll vote gop again.

TailgateNut · 11-15-2006, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bendog

Wow, now it offends conservatives that we punish people for attacking others cause of their color or religion or whom they they have sex with. I'll make Barry a deal. His and his ilk get the **** out of my party, and I'll vote gop again.

You have to excuse his intolerance due to his extreme right (err: wrong) views! He attempts to chastice others who make discriminating remarks, but does the same. Hypocrite comes to mind!

bendog · 11-15-2006, 12:59 PM

In a sense, it's Reagan's fault. There's a book I think I'll buy myself for x-mas. Reagan's Revolution: the untold story of hte campaign that started it all / craig shirley. It's about the 76 campaign he lost to Ford, and how after that, and Ford's loss to Carter, how he changed the gop. I think Goldwater commented when Reagan gave the 68 key note for Nixon "uh, oh, we're running the wrong guy."

tax cuts (at least when marginal rates were 70%), cuts in govt support, aggressive anti-communism, use of the military vis a vis the weinberger doctrine .... but the problem remained that the old line Republicans - Rockefeller, Ford, Schweiker, with their luke warm support for personal choice and marital escapades - were poison for the religious right. So, Reagan made a deal with the devil. The religious right hated Goldwater's libertarian bent (not to mention his battles with the bottle). No doubt they'd disapprove of Reagan's hollywood years, but it was a marriage of convenience. The genius being that the same judges who'd say no right to privacy would also say no congressional power to make new laws, which is what Reagan wanted, ie an emasculated congress.

But the deals he made with big oil and the religious right have derailed the reagan revolution. It's now nothing more than a bunch of corrupt white guys taking money and sex, and some religious nutters who are so out of step with most of America who, but for the power they've gotten via the gop, would be laughed out of town.

11-14-2006, 11:38 PM	#1
Barry Ramey Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,700	Is PA Bob Casey a fraud? Casey Ran as "Pro-Life"; His First Act Seeks "Sexual Orientation" Hate Crime Law Touted as pro-life and pro-family moderate who values his Catholic faith http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/nov/06111403.html By Meg Jalsevac SCRANTON, PA, November 14, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Within 24 hours of winning the bitter Pennsylvanian Senate race against incumbent Republican Rick Santorum, Democrat Senator-elect Bob Casey, Jr. let his real agendas show through. Citizenlink.org has reported that, the very day after the election, Casey announced that he would work in support of legislation to increase the scope of federal hate crimes law to encompass sexual orientation and gender identity as a victim group. Casey was chosen by the Democratic party to run against Santorum because of his supposedly moderate Democratic views. Throughout the election race, Casey’s campaign touted him as a pro-life and pro-family moderate candidate who valued his Catholic faith. However, Casey was immediately and unabashedly backed in his election bid by the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), a pro-gay activist group. On the HRC website, it claims “HRC flexed its political muscle and launched an extensive and strategic campaign in partnership with local organizations that resulted in a clear victory for fair-minded candidate Casey.” According to the website, HRC raised over $375,000 for Casey’s campaign. It also claims that it supplied 4 office staffers and hundreds of volunteers to encourage Pennsylvanians to vote. Casey thanked HRC the day after the election saying, “HRC got behind my campaign early and has been a tremendous help. I look forward to working with HRC’s incredible staff and membership, especially to advance hate-crimes legislation in the Senate.” In several election surveys Casey admitted that he opposed gay marriage but that he would support homosexual unions. In October of last year, Casey was quoted in The Philadelphia Jewish Voice as saying “I don't support gay marriage, but I also don't support a constitutional amendment banning it. That would be tremendously divisive. However, I do support same sex unions that would give gay couples all the rights, privileges and protections of marriage.” Casey also admitted in similar surveys that he would support legislation that would increase penalties for crimes committed against an individual because of their sexual orientation. Diane Gramley, president of the American Family Association of Pennsylvania, said, “It didn’t take long for his true colors to show throw. Too Many Pennsylvanians were misled and misinformed by Mr. Casey's campaign rhetoric." Adding sexual orientation verbage to hate-crime legislation is a threat to the First Amendment rights of all Americans who oppose homosexuality. Gramley said, "Right here in Pennsylvania we know what hate-crimes legislation that includes 'sexual orientation' and 'gender identity' can mean to Christians. In 2004 we witnessed 11 Christians being arrested and charged with a hate crime for simply reading Scripture and singing choruses at a homosexual event." The event that Gramley referred to happened in October 2004 when 11 Christian protestors were arrested and held in jail for 21 hours on various charges. The protesters were protesting OutFest, a homosexual festival held in Philadelphia. The protesters were swarmed by members of a homosexual group but only the Christian protesters were taken into custody by police. Soon after the event, it surfaced that the homosexual group had planned their actions well before the actual event. The coordinator of the homosexual event said “It's our event, and we're not going to permit vendors or community groups that conflict with the theme of the event.” He also publicly admitted that their actions infringed on the First Amendment rights of the Christians. No charges were brought against any of the homosexual individuals. Canada and several other countries recently passed hate-crime legislation which included ‘sexual orientation’ as a specific victim group. Within those jurisdictions there have been several instances of individuals, particularly clergy members, being prosecuted for speaking out about the immorality of homosexuality. Santorum, decisively beaten by a 20% margin by Casey, was nationally renowned for his conservative views, especially on issues of life and family. He had previously voted against legislation that had attempted to include sexual orientation under the hate-crime umbrella. Too late, Pennsylvania voters are finding out the hard way that Senator-elect Casey’s actions will speak much louder than his words.

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11-14-2006, 11:50 PM	#2
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,867 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	Sounds pretty good to me!

11-15-2006, 10:53 AM	#3
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,698 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	I voted for casey. There were no 3rd parties this year, and santorum had to go.

11-15-2006, 10:59 AM	#4
TailgateNut Bleedin' orange! .......as much as tebonites Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mile High Posts: 20,018 Adopt-a-Bronco: Howard Griffith	I have no problem with protecting the citizens of this nation regardless of their "orientation". Bigots have a problem with equal rights for all!

11-15-2006, 12:05 PM	#9
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	Wow, now it offends conservatives that we punish people for attacking others cause of their color or religion or whom they they have sex with. I'll make Barry a deal. His and his ilk get the **** out of my party, and I'll vote gop again.

11-15-2006, 12:59 PM	#11
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	In a sense, it's Reagan's fault. There's a book I think I'll buy myself for x-mas. Reagan's Revolution: the untold story of hte campaign that started it all / craig shirley. It's about the 76 campaign he lost to Ford, and how after that, and Ford's loss to Carter, how he changed the gop. I think Goldwater commented when Reagan gave the 68 key note for Nixon "uh, oh, we're running the wrong guy." tax cuts (at least when marginal rates were 70%), cuts in govt support, aggressive anti-communism, use of the military vis a vis the weinberger doctrine .... but the problem remained that the old line Republicans - Rockefeller, Ford, Schweiker, with their luke warm support for personal choice and marital escapades - were poison for the religious right. So, Reagan made a deal with the devil. The religious right hated Goldwater's libertarian bent (not to mention his battles with the bottle). No doubt they'd disapprove of Reagan's hollywood years, but it was a marriage of convenience. The genius being that the same judges who'd say no right to privacy would also say no congressional power to make new laws, which is what Reagan wanted, ie an emasculated congress. But the deals he made with big oil and the religious right have derailed the reagan revolution. It's now nothing more than a bunch of corrupt white guys taking money and sex, and some religious nutters who are so out of step with most of America who, but for the power they've gotten via the gop, would be laughed out of town.