Republicans Keeping us Safe???? - The Orange Mane

elsid13 · 11-03-2006, 07:57 AM

U.S. shuts Web site said to reveal nuclear guide: report Fri Nov 3, 7:12 AM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061103/...ternet_iraq_dc

The U.S. government has shut down a Web site it set up in March containing documents captured during the Iraq war after experts raised concerns it offered a guide to building an atom bomb, the New York Times reported.

It said the Bush administration started the site under pressure from congressional Republicans who hoped to use the Internet to find new evidence of dangers posed by former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein before the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.

In recent weeks, according to the Times, the site posted documents that weapons experts said contained detailed accounts of Iraq's secret nuclear research before the 1991 Gulf War that one diplomat called "a cookbook" for building an atom bomb.

On Wednesday night, after the Times informed the government about the concerns, it said the government suspended the site. It quoted a spokesman for the director of national intelligence as saying the site was withdrawn "pending a review to ensure its content is appropriate for public viewing."

A diplomat affiliated with the watchdog International Atomic Energy Agency told Reuters IAEA inspectors were "shocked by the explicitness of the content" on the Web page and a senior agency official conveyed the concerns to U.S. diplomats in Vienna.
But Matthew Boland, spokesman for the U.S. mission to the Vienna-based IAEA, said on Friday: "Ambassador (Gregory) Schulte did not receive any protest or expression of concern from the IAEA on this issue."

Known as "Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal," the Web site contained about a dozen documents with charts, diagrams, equations and long narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts told the Times went beyond what was available on the Internet and in other public forums.

The New York Times said the documents provided information on building nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives as the radioactive cores of atom bombs.
"For the U.S. to toss a match into this flammable area is very irresponsible," A. Bryan Siebert, a former official at the U.S. Energy Department, which runs the country's nuclear arms program, told the paper.

National intelligence director John Negroponte resisted setting up the Web site, the Times said, but President George W. Bush approved the move after congressional Republicans proposed a bill to require the documents' release.

According to the Times, conservative politicians and publications hoped analysis of the some 48,000 boxes of documents seized in the Iraq invasion would reinvigorate the search for proof Saddam had unconventional arms programs.
Bush cited concerns about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction as a major cause for the Iraq invasion.

No such weapons have been found.

(Additional reporting by Mark Heinrich in Vienna)

Barry Ramey · 11-03-2006, 12:15 PM

But the democrats and most of the media has a problem if they want to go with this story for then it would be Iraq did indeed have WMD's and seeking to go nuclear, which they claim is false. So can't say on one hand they had no WMD's, yet get irate they posted info. on the web found from documents that show otherwise.

Besides, if they want to know where most of the WMD's went(some have been found by the way, but not in a warehouse marked "WMD" on the door, so those don't count of course) they need to look at Syria since reported up to the war, numerous trucks were seen going in and out of Syria from Iraq. I doubt it was food deliveries.

alkemical · 11-03-2006, 12:18 PM

TailgateNut · 11-03-2006, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

But the democrats and most of the media has a problem if they want to go with this story for then it would be Iraq did indeed have WMD's and seeking to go nuclear, which they claim is false. So can't say on one hand they had no WMD's, yet get irate they posted info. on the web found from documents that show otherwise.

Besides, if they want to know where most of the WMD's went(some have been found by the way, but not in a warehouse marked "WMD" on the door, so those don't count of course) they need to look at Syria since reported up to the war, numerous trucks were seen going in and out of Syria from Iraq. I doubt it was food deliveries.

LOOK AT THE YEAR QUOTED (1991) not 2001.

Which ones were found- by the way

*shaking head in dis-belief*

Rohirrim · 11-03-2006, 01:41 PM

The only people who ever put forward the WMDs to Syria hypothesis were in the Bush administration or Fox News. The ISG's final report (the Duelfer Report) found nothing to support that hypothesis.

It defies logic anyway. Syria knows they are on the Bush hit-list. Are they going to accept WMDs from Saddam, knowing that they are painting a giant bulls eye right in the middle of their foreheads?

elsid13 · 11-03-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

The only people who ever put forward the WMDs to Syria hypothesis were in the Bush administration or Fox News. The ISG's final report (the Duelfer Report) found nothing to support that hypothesis.

It defies logic anyway. Syria knows they are on the Bush hit-list. Are they going to accept WMDs from Saddam, knowing that they are painting a giant bulls eye right in the middle of their foreheads?

But Fox New wouldn't lie to the American People would it.

But back to the story, this just another numerous case of the jack asses in the white house worrying about politics rather then doing what needs to be done to win the GWOT.

Spider · 11-04-2006, 08:32 AM

go boom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

elsid13 · 11-04-2006, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by §Pide®

go boom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Spider, when the bad guys literal light my ass up, I will be remembering this comment.

I can't believe the boozes are in charge of protecting us.

Spider · 11-04-2006, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elsid13

Thanks Spider, when the bad guys literal light my ass up, I will be remembering this comment.

I can't believe the boozes are in charge of protecting us.

anything I can do to help

Bronco_Beerslug · 11-04-2006, 09:51 AM

How ironic is this? The NY Times had to Inform the dumbest administration on the planet that they had posted instructions on how to build a nuclear bomb on their government website.

Barry Ramey · 11-05-2006, 08:37 AM

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - Nov. 3, 2006 Contact: Dave Yonkman

(202) 225-4401

Hoekstra Statement on DOCEX

"Yesterday's article by the New York Times highlights a number of important issues with respect to Iraq's WMD programs, as well as the importance of the documents that have been recovered in Iraq," said U.S. Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI), Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. "I am pleased that the document release program continues to stimulate public discussion of these issues.

"With respect to the possibility that documents may have been released that should not have been released, I have always been clear that the Director of National Intelligence should take whatever steps necessary to withhold sensitive documents. In fact, as of today the DNI had withheld 59 percent of the documents that it had reviewed, and has become more risk-averse over time. If the DNI believes that the documents that were released were in the safe 40 percent, imagine what the 60 percent being withheld must contain.

"That said, it is also important to emphasize that the IAEA, contrary to its assertions, never raised any concerns about this material with the United States Government before going to the press. Similarly, the DNI's office has informed me that no agency of the U.S. Government had raised any issues about the potential or actual release of these documents before yesterday. If there were such problems, they would have been better addressed through the appropriate channels rather than the press.

"These documents also raise several additional issues of interest. First, it is extraordinary that the New York Times now acknowledges that the captured documents demonstrate that '[Saddam] Hussein's scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away.' This only reinforces the value of these documents in understanding the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's regime. Only 1 percent of the estimated 120 million pages of captured documents have been reviewed, and we must continue working to promptly understand these materials. If there is concern about Saddam's nuclear program, there should be similar concern about potential connections between Saddam and al-Qaeda suggested in the documents.

"Second, my staff's preliminary review of the documents in question suggests that at least some of them may be internal IAEA documents. There is a serious question of why and how the Iraqis obtained these documents in the first place. We need to explore that carefully - I certainly hope there will be no evidence that the IAEA had been penetrated by Saddam's regime.

"Finally, it is disappointing but not surprising that the New York Times would continue to participate in such blatant and transparent political ploys, including what I believe are improper efforts by the IAEA to interfere with U.S. domestic affairs. The sad reality is that the New York Times has done far more damage to U.S. national security by the disclosure of vital, classified, intelligence programs than is likely to be caused by the inadvertent disclosure of decades-old information that had already been in the hands of Saddam's regime."

http://intelligence.house.gov/Media/PDFS/Release110306.pdf

baja · 11-05-2006, 10:39 AM

Yes (Dingle) Berry, using the same reasoning just think what the Bush administration has not told us

11-03-2006, 07:57 AM	#1
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,096	Republicans Keeping us Safe???? U.S. shuts Web site said to reveal nuclear guide: report Fri Nov 3, 7:12 AM ET http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061103/...ternet_iraq_dc The U.S. government has shut down a Web site it set up in March containing documents captured during the Iraq war after experts raised concerns it offered a guide to building an atom bomb, the New York Times reported. It said the Bush administration started the site under pressure from congressional Republicans who hoped to use the Internet to find new evidence of dangers posed by former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein before the U.S.-led invasion in 2003. In recent weeks, according to the Times, the site posted documents that weapons experts said contained detailed accounts of Iraq's secret nuclear research before the 1991 Gulf War that one diplomat called "a cookbook" for building an atom bomb. On Wednesday night, after the Times informed the government about the concerns, it said the government suspended the site. It quoted a spokesman for the director of national intelligence as saying the site was withdrawn "pending a review to ensure its content is appropriate for public viewing." A diplomat affiliated with the watchdog International Atomic Energy Agency told Reuters IAEA inspectors were "shocked by the explicitness of the content" on the Web page and a senior agency official conveyed the concerns to U.S. diplomats in Vienna. But Matthew Boland, spokesman for the U.S. mission to the Vienna-based IAEA, said on Friday: "Ambassador (Gregory) Schulte did not receive any protest or expression of concern from the IAEA on this issue." Known as "Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal," the Web site contained about a dozen documents with charts, diagrams, equations and long narratives about bomb building that nuclear experts told the Times went beyond what was available on the Internet and in other public forums. *The New York Times said the documents provided information on building nuclear firing circuits and triggering explosives as the radioactive cores of atom bombs.* "For the U.S. to toss a match into this flammable area is very irresponsible," A. Bryan Siebert, a former official at the U.S. Energy Department, which runs the country's nuclear arms program, told the paper. National intelligence director John Negroponte resisted setting up the Web site, the Times said, but President George W. Bush approved the move after congressional Republicans proposed a bill to require the documents' release. According to the Times, conservative politicians and publications hoped analysis of the some 48,000 boxes of documents seized in the Iraq invasion would reinvigorate the search for proof Saddam had unconventional arms programs. Bush cited concerns about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction as a major cause for the Iraq invasion. No such weapons have been found. (Additional reporting by Mark Heinrich in Vienna)

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11-03-2006, 12:15 PM	#2
Barry Ramey Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,700	But the democrats and most of the media has a problem if they want to go with this story for then it would be Iraq did indeed have WMD's and seeking to go nuclear, which they claim is false. So can't say on one hand they had no WMD's, yet get irate they posted info. on the web found from documents that show otherwise. Besides, if they want to know where most of the WMD's went(some have been found by the way, but not in a warehouse marked "WMD" on the door, so those don't count of course) they need to look at Syria since reported up to the war, numerous trucks were seen going in and out of Syria from Iraq. I doubt it was food deliveries.

11-03-2006, 01:41 PM	#5
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,852	The only people who ever put forward the WMDs to Syria hypothesis were in the Bush administration or Fox News. The ISG's final report (the Duelfer Report) found nothing to support that hypothesis. It defies logic anyway. Syria knows they are on the Bush hit-list. Are they going to accept WMDs from Saddam, knowing that they are painting a giant bulls eye right in the middle of their foreheads?

11-04-2006, 08:32 AM	#7
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	go boom !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-04-2006, 09:51 AM	#10
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	How ironic is this? The NY Times had to Inform the dumbest administration on the planet that they had posted instructions on how to build a nuclear bomb on their government website.

11-05-2006, 08:37 AM	#11
Barry Ramey Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,700	FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - Nov. 3, 2006 Contact: Dave Yonkman (202) 225-4401 Hoekstra Statement on DOCEX "Yesterday's article by the New York Times highlights a number of important issues with respect to Iraq's WMD programs, as well as the importance of the documents that have been recovered in Iraq," said U.S. Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI), Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. "I am pleased that the document release program continues to stimulate public discussion of these issues. "With respect to the possibility that documents may have been released that should not have been released, I have always been clear that the Director of National Intelligence should take whatever steps necessary to withhold sensitive documents. In fact, as of today the DNI had withheld 59 percent of the documents that it had reviewed, and has become more risk-averse over time. If the DNI believes that the documents that were released were in the safe 40 percent, imagine what the 60 percent being withheld must contain. "That said, it is also important to emphasize that the IAEA, contrary to its assertions, never raised any concerns about this material with the United States Government before going to the press. Similarly, the DNI's office has informed me that no agency of the U.S. Government had raised any issues about the potential or actual release of these documents before yesterday. If there were such problems, they would have been better addressed through the appropriate channels rather than the press. "These documents also raise several additional issues of interest. First, it is extraordinary that the New York Times now acknowledges that the captured documents demonstrate that '[Saddam] Hussein's scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away.' This only reinforces the value of these documents in understanding the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's regime. Only 1 percent of the estimated 120 million pages of captured documents have been reviewed, and we must continue working to promptly understand these materials. If there is concern about Saddam's nuclear program, there should be similar concern about potential connections between Saddam and al-Qaeda suggested in the documents. "Second, my staff's preliminary review of the documents in question suggests that at least some of them may be internal IAEA documents. There is a serious question of why and how the Iraqis obtained these documents in the first place. We need to explore that carefully - I certainly hope there will be no evidence that the IAEA had been penetrated by Saddam's regime. "Finally, it is disappointing but not surprising that the New York Times would continue to participate in such blatant and transparent political ploys, including what I believe are improper efforts by the IAEA to interfere with U.S. domestic affairs. The sad reality is that the New York Times has done far more damage to U.S. national security by the disclosure of vital, classified, intelligence programs than is likely to be caused by the inadvertent disclosure of decades-old information that had already been in the hands of Saddam's regime." http://intelligence.house.gov/Media/PDFS/Release110306.pdf

11-05-2006, 10:39 AM	#12
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Yes (Dingle) Berry, using the same reasoning just think what the Bush administration has not told us