Broncos' Williams aims to recover fast from Sunday's burns - The Orange Mane

SoCalBronco · 10-31-2006, 12:45 AM

No thrill in the chase when making up space
Broncos' Williams aims to recover fast from Sunday's burns
By Bill Williamson
Denver Post Staff Writer
Article Last Updated:10/31/2006 12:19:29 AM MST

Darrent Williams, left, joined a legion of cornerbacks who have come up on the short end vs. Peyton Manning. (Post / Andy Cross)Domonique Foxworth saw close friend Darrent Williams return, dejected, to the Broncos' sideline series after series Sunday as Indianapolis quarterback Peyton Manning picked apart the Broncos' defense.

It brought back what Foxworth endured on the same field nine months earlier against Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in the AFC championship game.

"It was exactly what I went through against Pittsburgh," Foxworth said Monday. "I just told him that he knows the deal. What looked like was happening wasn't happening. He was playing in the defense that we ran, just as I was playing in the defense we were running

"We've been successful in it. Occasionally, things like this happen to everyone. Ben Roethlisberger had a big game against us last year, and Peyton Manning always seems to have big games. What happened in Darrent's case is really a compliment to Peyton Manning. He made it happen."

Williams was covering Reggie Wayne on Sunday when the Colts receiver made three touchdown catches and a two-point conversion in the second half of the Colts' 34-31 victory.

Williams, normally outgoing, left the locker room without speaking, but his anger was apparent. Monday, he was laughing in the locker room and talked at length about the previous day's game.

"I needed some time to cool down and think about things," Williams said. "I know it's one day. It was one bad day, but it was a team thing. We all made mistakes, and we all have to get better. It's like Foxworth's day against Pittsburgh: Things can look worse than they were. I know I'm going to come out next week and every week and be the same, aggressive player."

The Broncos' scheme put Williams in a tough spot. Because the Colts were in two-receiver and two-tight end sets, the Broncos played in two-cornerback sets with Williams and Champ Bailey, while Foxworth sat out. As the nickel cornerback, Foxworth is used in three- receiver sets, a common alignment.

Coming out of the no-huddle defense, it became clear early the Colts and Manning, who completed 32-of-39 passes for 345 yards, would avoid Bailey, who was covering Marvin Harrison. The plan was to get Wayne the ball. It worked: He had 10 catches for 138 yards.

The Broncos remained in the same alignment the entire game. Denver cornerbacks stayed off the Colts receivers.

Williams said he understood the plan, but he thought it was a "little too cautious."

Broncos defensive coordinator Larry Coyer said he respected Williams' opinion, but disagreed.

"It was the plan and we stuck with it," Coyer said. "We gave (Manning) too much time. We made a few plays, but not enough. We all just have to get better."

Coyer praised Williams for his effort.

"He played hard, he battled," Coyer said. "He's a good player. I'm glad we have him."

A blown coverage contributed to Wayne's final touchdown.

Broncos coach Mike Shanahan stood by Williams, who was outstanding in the first six games, playing opposite Bailey. Shanahan said there was more than met the eye concerning Williams' play.

"You know he is a good corner, and most people do not understand that in zone coverage a guy has to be deep in the field, and what he has to do is make those tackles," Shanahan said. "We had a miscommunication on one of those touchdown passes ... but all in all Darrent

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played a pretty good game."
Added safety John Lynch: "Darrent battled all game, and he really did a good job. I've been big on him since he's got here and I will always be big on him. He's been a pro."

Williams, who received several phone calls and text messages Sunday to encourage him, promises a fast turnaround. And he can't wait to see No. 18 again.

"You don't play Peyton Manning, who'll probably be the best to ever play the game when it's all over, every game," Williams said. "But hopefully we see them in the playoffs."

Youth served
Young Denver cornerbacks have been victimized in the past two playoff losses and again Sunday:

DARRENT WILLIAMS
34-31 loss to Colts on Sunday

Reggie Wayne (above with Williams) had three touchdown catches and a two-point conversion in the second half.

DOMONIQUE FOXWORTH
34-17 AFC title game loss vs. Steelers

The Steelers went toward Foxworth repeatedly as receiver Cedric Wilson made five catches for 92 yards and Ben Roethlisberger threw for 275 yards.

ROC ALEXANDER
49-24 loss at Colts in 2004 playoffs

As a cornerback in the nickel package, Alexander was burned by Wayne (10 catches, 221 yards, two touchdowns).

Staff writer Bill Williamson can be reached at 303-954-1262 or bwilliamson@denverpost.com.

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(Jae) · 10-31-2006, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Williams said he understood the plan, but he thought it was a "little too cautious."
Broncos defensive coordinator Larry Coyer said he respected Williams' opinion, but disagreed.
"It was the plan and we stuck with it," Coyer said. "We gave (Manning) too much time. We made a few plays, but not enough. We all just have to get better."

Yeah, God forbid you try to change it when you see it's not working AT ALL.

Got to stick to "the plan" baby.....

SportinOne · 10-31-2006, 06:22 AM

The plan was to slow the game down and take away the big play.. this was obvious from the moment Peyton snapped the ball. You never see our LB's that far back.. then you add the CB's who were just as far back..

The plan worked, in my opinion.. our offense just didn't deliver that final blow.... oh well, i still think we could beat them if we play them again this year. I don't think we'll have to, someone will take them out for us. A 3-4 team like San Diego...

Mediator12 · 10-31-2006, 06:48 AM

If Williams got his ass kicked all over the field playing cautious defense, how bad do you think he got beat on the five blitzes the Bronocs did run

Try three First downs and two TD's worth of ass kicking. But, but ,but we were too cautious LMAO

Willynowei · 10-31-2006, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

If Williams got his ass kicked all over the field playing cautious defense, how bad do you think he got beat on the five blitzes the Bronocs did run

Try three First downs and two TD's worth of ass kicking. But, but ,but we were too cautious LMAO

Its obvious you wait on every oppurtunity to jump on a guy who Shanahan and the rest of a Broncos Coaching staff defends. Any Idiot could've seen Darrent played fine that game, there were a lot of routes and passes that other quarterbacks simply can't throw consistently.

For instance, how many squirrel routes did Wayne run on sunday? You don't run those type of routes against teams you think can get pressure on you. Its obvious where the problem is, and its not Darrent.

Mediator12 · 10-31-2006, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Willynowei

Its obvious you wait on every oppurtunity to jump on a guy who Shanahan and the rest of a Broncos Coaching staff defends. Any Idiot could've seen Darrent played fine that game, there were a lot of routes and passes that other quarterbacks simply can't throw consistently.

For instance, how many squirrel routes did Wayne run on sunday? You don't run those type of routes against teams you think can get pressure on you. Its obvious where the problem is, and its not Darrent.

Why do you think the coaches have not got on him in public

Is it because CB is a confidence position and he got his ass kicked already? Is it because the guy behind him is going to do no better? Believe me, he has heard about it behind closed doors from those same people who have given him public support.

And Shanahan also pointed out he blew the third TD coverage and did not KNOW what coverage they were in on the other two. You think that had something to do with the three TD's they surrenderd yesterday.

Finally, Darrent Williams had the Lowest Success percentage in coverage of any CB in the league entering the game Sunday. Yes, he gets plenty of opportunities playing opposite Bailey, but that is also a lot of opportunities to make a play.

Yes, the pass rush was the primary and most major reason those routes could develop, but he never read the keys to those routes all day after seeing them repeatedly.

Rohirrim · 10-31-2006, 07:26 AM

Darrent has a great set of skills, and especially, speed. It takes a few years to turn somebody into a good CB and there are major burns along the way. Darrent has looked amazingly bad sometimes. Like Chick Hearn used to say, Wayne put him in the "popcorn machine" a few times yesterday. He's also looked very good at other times. I still believe that DW has a lot of upside. I'm sure he'll get plenty of coaching after Sunday's day in the toaster. Hopefully, he takes it seriously. I still think he can be a damn, good corner.

55CrushEm · 10-31-2006, 07:29 AM

Can someone answer this for me? I'm sure it's been discussed in other threads, but I don't have the time to sift through hundreds of posts.

How come when we play the Patriots, we can consistently get tons of pressure on Brady? I mean, we knock him on his a$$ all day.....

But when we played the Colts on Sunday, we had ZERO pressure? Not one finger laid on mellonhead's uniform.

I find it very difficult to believe that the Patriots o-line is that much worse than the Colts......

Anyone?

Mediator12 · 10-31-2006, 07:44 AM

Manning holds the ball as long as he needs to. And, he adjusts the protection better than any QB in the game before the snap. Brady will wait for a route to develop and take a hit to make the play better than Peyton. Peyton will dump off quicker if he sees trouble and wait for the next play to beat you.

fontaine · 10-31-2006, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

Manning holds the ball as long as he needs to. And, he adjusts the protection better than any QB in the game before the snap.

Unless it's the playoffs and he's up against a 3-4.

In that case his a$$ is Brady's, or more recently the Steelers and he throws his OL under the bus!

Iowanian · 10-31-2006, 08:20 AM

Is it possible that Williams will even be released from the Burn unit by sunday?

PatsWin2002 · 10-31-2006, 08:41 AM

The Colts had to be amazed that that physical mismatch was allowed to exist as long as it did.

At least they didn't forget it was there.

Rhino · 10-31-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

Believe me, he has heard about it behind closed doors from those same people who have given him public support.

Man, u don't know shyt. STFU. You're a noted Darrent hater. Of course he gave up some plays to PEYTON MANNING and REGGIE WYANE, but what about the other 10 plus times Manning looked to Wyane and he was COVERED. Let's just over look those b/c this kid is the wost CB in league, according to you. What a tool you are.

Rohirrim · 10-31-2006, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhino

Man, u don't know shyt. STFU. You're a noted Darrent hater. Of course he gave up some plays to PEYTON MANNING and REGGIE WYANE, but what about the other 10 plus times Manning looked to Wyane and he was COVERED. Let's just over look those b/c this kid is the wost CB in league, according to you. What a tool you are.

Welcome to the Mane, Darrent!

Rhino · 10-31-2006, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Welcome to the Mane, Darrent!

Not Darrent but close!

Crushaholic · 10-31-2006, 09:19 AM

Word to your mother...or something like that...

SteveTensi13 · 10-31-2006, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

"It was the plan and we stuck with it," Coyer said.

Rumsfeld would be proud!

Mile High Shack · 10-31-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsWin2002

The Colts had to be amazed that that physical mismatch was allowed to exist as long as it did.

At least they didn't forget it was there.

and I think that is the beotch of it

Coyer was too.....

stubborn (good word) to change anything up when it was obvious the Colts found the weakness

Mediator12 · 10-31-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhino

Man, u don't know shyt. STFU. You're a noted Darrent hater. Of course he gave up some plays to PEYTON MANNING and REGGIE WYANE, but what about the other 10 plus times Manning looked to Wyane and he was COVERED. Let's just over look those b/c this kid is the wost CB in league, according to you. What a tool you are.

No, I do not hate Darrent. I expect him to cover somebody sometimes though. He has not covered anyone all year and even you know it. He has one good game this year against BAL and that is his only game above average.

The problem with Labelers like yourself is that facts are irrelevant to your opinion. You do not have the capacity to be objective, because you are too emotionally attached to said player and do not care about the other factors. Its called the fundamental attribution error or correspondence bias. You take every fact and filter it through your lens to make a performance like that come out average when he failed repeatedly to do his job. I am not attached to anyone player and give kudos for performance not reputation or good will.

Get over the fact that Darrent has been one of the weaknesses in this defense all year and beaten at a higher percentage than any other CB in the league BEFORE Peyton Manning even came to town. Otherwise, you just come off looking like you have no clue.

Mediator12 · 10-31-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Shack

and I think that is the beotch of it

Coyer was too.....

stubborn (good word) to change anything up when it was obvious the Colts found the weakness

Yeah, seeing the exact type of patterns over and over again would not be an advantage for the CB at all would it? Especially when you know that the coverage has eliminated inside and deep patterns and you only have to worry about two areas of the field instead of six.

I mean make it easy for him to cover two areas instead of switching it up and you know bringing pressure and make him responsible for four to six areas instead. That is excellent reasoning

55CrushEm · 10-31-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

No, I do not hate Darrent. I expect him to cover somebody sometimes though. He has not covered anyone all year and even you know it. He has one good game this year against BAL and that is his only game above average.

The problem with Labelers like yourself is that facts are irrelevant to your opinion. You do not have the capacity to be objective, because you are too emotionally attached to said player and do not care about the other factors. Its called the fundamental attribution error or correspondence bias. You take every fact and filter it through your lens to make a performance like that come out average when he failed repeatedly to do his job. I am not attached to anyone player and give kudos for performance not reputation or good will.

Get over the fact that Darrent has been one of the weaknesses in this defense all year and beaten at a higher percentage than any other CB in the league BEFORE Peyton Manning even came to town. Otherwise, you just come off looking like you have no clue.

Ouch....the newby just got tooled.....

Rhino · 10-31-2006, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

No, I do not hate Darrent. I expect him to cover somebody sometimes though. He has not covered anyone all year and even you know it. He has one good game this year against BAL and that is his only game above average.

The problem with Labelers like yourself is that facts are irrelevant to your opinion. You do not have the capacity to be objective, because you are too emotionally attached to said player and do not care about the other factors. Its called the fundamental attribution error or correspondence bias. You take every fact and filter it through your lens to make a performance like that come out average when he failed repeatedly to do his job. I am not attached to anyone player and give kudos for performance not reputation or good will.

Get over the fact that Darrent has been one of the weaknesses in this defense all year and beaten at a higher percentage than any other CB in the league BEFORE Peyton Manning even came to town. Otherwise, you just come off looking like you have no clue.

Okay Dr. NFL CB Coach, talking about not having a clue you don't have a clue. You act and write as if Darrent can't cover any receiver in the league. Like everytime a QB looks his way, the receiver is open. Sure he's had some plays made on him, what NFL CB hasn't. If he is as bad as you seem to think he is then he shouldn't be in the league. I think I'll take the word of the Broncos coaches and players before the word of some want-a-be defensive back coach. On the touchdown that Wayne caught in the middle/back portion of the end-zone, if they're playing zone who's responsiblility is that? And the safties didn't blitz on that play, Lynch came down to cover the TE who had came in Darrent's zone.

Peyton threw the ball 37 times, Wayne caught 10 of those. I'm 100% sure Wayne ran across the field and caught the ball on the other side of the formation twice so let's say Darrent gave up 8 catches to Wayne. So out of 37 attempts you're telling me that Payton looked to Wayne only 10 times? If Darrent "failed repeatedly to do his job" Wayne would have had alot more that 8 completions on Darrent. I sure on all the check downs Peyton made to wide open backs and TEs Wayne as wide open, he just didn't want throw it to him.

He's a 5'8" 180lb starting CB in the NFL in his second year and you expect him to be Deion Sanders on every freaking play, you are unreal.

Rhino · 10-31-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 55CrushEm

Ouch....the newby just got tooled.....

Not a newbie Sir. I've been reading these message boards since the kid got drafted. Just promised my sister that I wouldn't respond to you so-called "fans". After reading all this bashing and some guy wishing he would wreck his car and break a leg I just got fed up and had to respond. It's all good though, we got 2 more years on this contract. I'm just hoping and praying the Mr. Jones pony up and bring the kid home. You bronco fans are the most knee jerking fans I've ever encountered and I live in Cowboy land.

troya900 · 10-31-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

If Williams got his ass kicked all over the field playing cautious defense, how bad do you think he got beat on the five blitzes the Bronocs did run

Try three First downs and two TD's worth of ass kicking. But, but ,but we were too cautious LMAO

Well I'm not observant of EVERY blitz that might have happened, but I remember one in the first quarter that stopped the Colts on 3rd down to force the first FG of the game. I understand that Williams played like crap and got burnt numerous times, but most of the blitzes were god awful. The only one that looked decent is the one that actually did stop the colts on 3rd down. It's just a fact that you have to somewhat consistently pressure peyton if he feels comfortable and has forever that team will burn about anyone.

broncosteven · 10-31-2006, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mediator12

No, I do not hate Darrent. I expect him to cover somebody sometimes though. He has not covered anyone all year and even you know it. He has one good game this year against BAL and that is his only game above average.

The problem with Labelers like yourself is that facts are irrelevant to your opinion. You do not have the capacity to be objective, because you are too emotionally attached to said player and do not care about the other factors. Its called the fundamental attribution error or correspondence bias. You take every fact and filter it through your lens to make a performance like that come out average when he failed repeatedly to do his job. I am not attached to anyone player and give kudos for performance not reputation or good will.

Get over the fact that Darrent has been one of the weaknesses in this defense all year and beaten at a higher percentage than any other CB in the league BEFORE Peyton Manning even came to town. Otherwise, you just come off looking like you have no clue.

I love this post.

10-31-2006, 12:45 AM	#1
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,311 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	Broncos' Williams aims to recover fast from Sunday's burns No thrill in the chase when making up space Broncos' Williams aims to recover fast from Sunday's burns By Bill Williamson Denver Post Staff Writer Article Last Updated:10/31/2006 12:19:29 AM MST Darrent Williams, left, joined a legion of cornerbacks who have come up on the short end vs. Peyton Manning. (Post / Andy Cross)Domonique Foxworth saw close friend Darrent Williams return, dejected, to the Broncos' sideline series after series Sunday as Indianapolis quarterback Peyton Manning picked apart the Broncos' defense. It brought back what Foxworth endured on the same field nine months earlier against Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in the AFC championship game. "It was exactly what I went through against Pittsburgh," Foxworth said Monday. "I just told him that he knows the deal. What looked like was happening wasn't happening. He was playing in the defense that we ran, just as I was playing in the defense we were running "We've been successful in it. Occasionally, things like this happen to everyone. Ben Roethlisberger had a big game against us last year, and Peyton Manning always seems to have big games. What happened in Darrent's case is really a compliment to Peyton Manning. He made it happen." Williams was covering Reggie Wayne on Sunday when the Colts receiver made three touchdown catches and a two-point conversion in the second half of the Colts' 34-31 victory. Williams, normally outgoing, left the locker room without speaking, but his anger was apparent. Monday, he was laughing in the locker room and talked at length about the previous day's game. "I needed some time to cool down and think about things," Williams said. "I know it's one day. It was one bad day, but it was a team thing. We all made mistakes, and we all have to get better. It's like Foxworth's day against Pittsburgh: Things can look worse than they were. I know I'm going to come out next week and every week and be the same, aggressive player." The Broncos' scheme put Williams in a tough spot. Because the Colts were in two-receiver and two-tight end sets, the Broncos played in two-cornerback sets with Williams and Champ Bailey, while Foxworth sat out. As the nickel cornerback, Foxworth is used in three- receiver sets, a common alignment. Coming out of the no-huddle defense, it became clear early the Colts and Manning, who completed 32-of-39 passes for 345 yards, would avoid Bailey, who was covering Marvin Harrison. The plan was to get Wayne the ball. It worked: He had 10 catches for 138 yards. The Broncos remained in the same alignment the entire game. Denver cornerbacks stayed off the Colts receivers. Williams said he understood the plan, but he thought it was a "little too cautious." Broncos defensive coordinator Larry Coyer said he respected Williams' opinion, but disagreed. "It was the plan and we stuck with it," Coyer said. "We gave (Manning) too much time. We made a few plays, but not enough. We all just have to get better." Coyer praised Williams for his effort. "He played hard, he battled," Coyer said. "He's a good player. I'm glad we have him." A blown coverage contributed to Wayne's final touchdown. Broncos coach Mike Shanahan stood by Williams, who was outstanding in the first six games, playing opposite Bailey. Shanahan said there was more than met the eye concerning Williams' play. "You know he is a good corner, and most people do not understand that in zone coverage a guy has to be deep in the field, and what he has to do is make those tackles," Shanahan said. "We had a miscommunication on one of those touchdown passes ... but all in all Darrent Blog: All Things Broncos Post reporters Jim Armstrong, Mike Klis and Bill Williamson post daily entries on this blog devoted to your beloved Broncos. Visit it here. played a pretty good game." Added safety John Lynch: "Darrent battled all game, and he really did a good job. I've been big on him since he's got here and I will always be big on him. He's been a pro." Williams, who received several phone calls and text messages Sunday to encourage him, promises a fast turnaround. And he can't wait to see No. 18 again. "You don't play Peyton Manning, who'll probably be the best to ever play the game when it's all over, every game," Williams said. "But hopefully we see them in the playoffs." Youth served Young Denver cornerbacks have been victimized in the past two playoff losses and again Sunday: DARRENT WILLIAMS 34-31 loss to Colts on Sunday Reggie Wayne (above with Williams) had three touchdown catches and a two-point conversion in the second half. DOMONIQUE FOXWORTH 34-17 AFC title game loss vs. Steelers The Steelers went toward Foxworth repeatedly as receiver Cedric Wilson made five catches for 92 yards and Ben Roethlisberger threw for 275 yards. ROC ALEXANDER 49-24 loss at Colts in 2004 playoffs As a cornerback in the nickel package, Alexander was burned by Wayne (10 catches, 221 yards, two touchdowns). Staff writer Bill Williamson can be reached at 303-954-1262 or bwilliamson@denverpost.com. http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_4577612 __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

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10-31-2006, 06:22 AM	#3
SportinOne Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,422	The plan was to slow the game down and take away the big play.. this was obvious from the moment Peyton snapped the ball. You never see our LB's that far back.. then you add the CB's who were just as far back.. The plan worked, in my opinion.. our offense just didn't deliver that final blow.... oh well, i still think we could beat them if we play them again this year. I don't think we'll have to, someone will take them out for us. A 3-4 team like San Diego...

10-31-2006, 06:48 AM	#4
Mediator12 OM analyst REAL Front Seven Bandwagon !!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDY Posts: 9,701 Adopt-a-Bronco: Malik Jackson	If Williams got his ass kicked all over the field playing cautious defense, how bad do you think he got beat on the five blitzes the Bronocs did run Try three First downs and two TD's worth of ass kicking. But, but ,but we were too cautious LMAO

10-31-2006, 07:26 AM	#7
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,843	Darrent has a great set of skills, and especially, speed. It takes a few years to turn somebody into a good CB and there are major burns along the way. Darrent has looked amazingly bad sometimes. Like Chick Hearn used to say, Wayne put him in the "popcorn machine" a few times yesterday. He's also looked very good at other times. I still believe that DW has a lot of upside. I'm sure he'll get plenty of coaching after Sunday's day in the toaster. Hopefully, he takes it seriously. I still think he can be a damn, good corner.

10-31-2006, 07:29 AM	#8
55CrushEm Dynamic Duo Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North of Boston, MA Posts: 5,592 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quanterus Smith	Can someone answer this for me? I'm sure it's been discussed in other threads, but I don't have the time to sift through hundreds of posts. How come when we play the Patriots, we can consistently get tons of pressure on Brady? I mean, we knock him on his a$$ all day..... But when we played the Colts on Sunday, we had ZERO pressure? Not one finger laid on mellonhead's uniform. I find it very difficult to believe that the Patriots o-line is that much worse than the Colts...... Anyone?

10-31-2006, 07:44 AM	#9
Mediator12 OM analyst REAL Front Seven Bandwagon !!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDY Posts: 9,701 Adopt-a-Bronco: Malik Jackson	Manning holds the ball as long as he needs to. And, he adjusts the protection better than any QB in the game before the snap. Brady will wait for a route to develop and take a hit to make the play better than Peyton. Peyton will dump off quicker if he sees trouble and wait for the next play to beat you.

10-31-2006, 08:20 AM	#11
Iowanian Heeaaaaaaaaw Duke of Donkeyville Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: 1 Arrowhead Drive Posts: 1,990	Is it possible that Williams will even be released from the Burn unit by sunday?

10-31-2006, 08:41 AM	#12
PatsWin2002 Giggity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South of Boston Posts: 6,270	The Colts had to be amazed that that physical mismatch was allowed to exist as long as it did. At least they didn't forget it was there.

10-31-2006, 09:19 AM	#16
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,044	Word to your mother...or something like that...