Darrent Williams Bandwagon - The Orange Mane

Killericon · 10-30-2006, 10:09 PM

Who has officially hopped off?

'Nique or DWill?

69bronco · 10-30-2006, 10:14 PM

i'm still on, officially on since end of apr. 2004. I knew he was going to get torched for a few yards when he gaurenteed he would have 2 or 3 picks on manning if he challenged him like he was a reincarnation of darrell green speed, champ coverage and randy moss hands and hops. Any body who fell off will back on soon, unless their still mad at champ for the last time the raiders beat the broncos.

Bronco Billy · 10-30-2006, 10:16 PM

DWill had a bad game against a great offense. I'm not ready to jump ship yet.

WABronco · 10-30-2006, 10:24 PM

He's still a nice young player, with sizeable potential. If the coaching staff didn't have confidence in him he'd be ridin' the pine already...

WABronco · 10-30-2006, 10:24 PM

Oh, I see Kmart is viewing this thread!

Hey Kmart! Say something about him being a midget, or whatever!

SteveTensi13 · 10-30-2006, 10:24 PM

I'll give him one more game to cowboy up.

Broncosfreak_56 · 10-30-2006, 10:25 PM

D-will will bounce back.

(Jae) · 10-30-2006, 10:27 PM

I still believe in him 100%
I believe he will bounce back, and learn from this to better himself in the future.
It takes a game like this to really show where you can get/do better.
I'll take it now rather then wait until the playoffs and have everything come at you too fast like Roc/Fox and company with good O's.

spdirty · 10-30-2006, 10:32 PM

Well since Im still having nightmares of Big Ben scorching Foxworth, and my nightmare last night of DWill gettin scorched by Peyton, uhhhhhhh, KARL PAYMAH!!!!!

SouthStndJunkie · 10-30-2006, 10:33 PM

Give the guy a break. He had a terrible game.

He will bounce back.

Crushaholic · 10-30-2006, 10:48 PM

Can Cutler play corner?

Killericon · 10-30-2006, 10:49 PM

I voted for Darrent, just so everyone knows.

Killericon · 10-30-2006, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

Can Cutler play corner?

He can play any ****ing position he wants.

maven · 10-30-2006, 10:53 PM

Neither CB are great. I'd be willing to give Foxy another chance. Peyton and Reggie Wayne ABUSED DW. Why not give foxy a chance... He couldn't do any worse than DW did this past Sunday.

(Jae) · 10-31-2006, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maven

He couldn't do any worse than DW did this past Sunday.

Why couldnt he?
You saw what Cedric Wilson of all people did to him when Ben had the same amount of time Peyton had.

Taco John · 10-31-2006, 12:59 AM

Go Darrent!

fontaine · 10-31-2006, 02:02 AM

I believe in the guy. We have weak links in our Defense and pretty much everyone knows the lack of pass rush doesn't help.

DWill had a pretty poor game but he was going up against one of the best QB-WR combinations. What he does NOW to pick himself up is most important.

We had a previous high profile CB who went bust when he was down and beaten a few times instead of forgetting about it and moving on.

I think DWill is too confident to let this get to him but he still needs to improve his coverage.

elsid13 · 10-31-2006, 02:05 AM

In the Yahoo Sport Section, one of columnist talk about how the Colts set up there offense to ensure that Darrent had one on one coverage with Wayne. The Colts deliberately spilt the TE wide to force the Safeties to cover him(TE) vs provide help over the top for Darrent. While Darrent was instructed not to give up the big play over the top, the underneath stuff was open. So of it was his fault and some of it was real good gameplaning by the Colts.

fontaine · 10-31-2006, 02:49 AM

Here's some perspective:
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...ispers2117.htm

Quote:

Word is Jets rookie CB Drew Coleman has earned a starting position over Justin Miller, a second-round pick in the 2005 draft, because Coleman is more dependable as a tackler and in coverage. We hear the team values Miller as a kick returner, but that may not be enough for him to keep his roster spot in 2007.

Miller was picked right after DWill even though it seemed as if we should have picked up Miller because he was the taller guy.

DWill still is a very solid pickup for us. I believe he'll continue to improve and he definitely needs to because with Champ locking down his side, teams will continue to go after DWill!!

Northman · 10-31-2006, 02:52 AM

Very few players can cover Reggie Wayne. Dwill had a bad game it happens.

Blart · 10-31-2006, 03:10 AM

Coyer's fault not Darent's.

SportinOne · 10-31-2006, 06:14 AM

I don't think anyone could have covered what DW was put up against.

I really would be curious to see what Champ could have done in that situation. Especially on that last touchdown.

Champ likes to look at the QB most of the time and DW was simply trying not to get left in the dust. Still, DW wasn't too far away when the ball came in, and if he's looking at the ball instead of the receiver he might have had a chance to swat it. It was more of a timing thing, though, and Peyton threw it perfectly... DW didn't bight on the hook all day until that play, figures...

The play i really don't understand was the 2pt conversion... That just shouldn't happen.. That was huge, and i don't think it's really been talked about at all. I think it's because we assume that Peyton should have his way with this defense no matter what, so look somewhere else for blame.. really this defense never came up big at all... not one play. We stopped them on two third downs but the Colts pretty much stopped themselves.. We were just spectators..

KillerBronco#76 · 10-31-2006, 06:28 AM

it seemed like on that touchown pass there was some confusion. He was talking to lynch in a hurry cause the colts were lined up and it looked like he thought he had saftey help over top. Thats why he bit on jumping the route. Then after the play he pointed at lynch and appeared pretty frustrated. I really think he got confused and thought he would get help over the top.

Mediator12 · 10-31-2006, 06:30 AM

This is been discussed better already Here:

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=48750&page=3

Listen to Darrent's interview about not knowing what the hell he was doing on two of three crucial TD's and then trying to say he did not do anything wrong and was not getting beaten all day long. This kid is not a rookie anymore and he should at least know what the terminology for which coverage they are running is and be able to understand the signals.

Here is the interview:

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.ph...o&year=&month=

When a CB blows coverage in the red Zone, its his fault. When he does not even know what coverage they are playing... Good Lord. I can handle the technical errors he made in that game. What I can not excuse is the mental errors in that type of game. If he stops one of those third down TD's the Broncos might have actually won and made Manning force throws late instead of having all day to get into FG range for the best clutch FG kicker of all time.

yhova · 10-31-2006, 06:33 AM

Foxworth is terrible. Williams gave up 3 td's, Foxworth would give up 5 td's.

View Poll Results: Who should start opposite Bailey?
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10-30-2006, 10:09 PM	#1
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	Darrent Williams Bandwagon Who has officially hopped off? 'Nique or DWill? Last edited by Killericon; 10-30-2006 at 10:30 PM..

10-30-2006, 10:27 PM	#8
(Jae) Pro Bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I still believe in him 100% I believe he will bounce back, and learn from this to better himself in the future. It takes a game like this to really show where you can get/do better. I'll take it now rather then wait until the playoffs and have everything come at you too fast like Roc/Fox and company with good O's. Last edited by (Jae); 10-30-2006 at 10:37 PM..

10-31-2006, 02:05 AM	#18
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,080	In the Yahoo Sport Section, one of columnist talk about how the Colts set up there offense to ensure that Darrent had one on one coverage with Wayne. The Colts deliberately spilt the TE wide to force the Safeties to cover him(TE) vs provide help over the top for Darrent. While Darrent was instructed not to give up the big play over the top, the underneath stuff was open. So of it was his fault and some of it was real good gameplaning by the Colts. Last edited by elsid13; 10-31-2006 at 02:47 AM..

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10-30-2006, 10:14 PM	#2
69bronco negrodamus of NFL Q's Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 210	i'm still on, officially on since end of apr. 2004. I knew he was going to get torched for a few yards when he gaurenteed he would have 2 or 3 picks on manning if he challenged him like he was a reincarnation of darrell green speed, champ coverage and randy moss hands and hops. Any body who fell off will back on soon, unless their still mad at champ for the last time the raiders beat the broncos.

10-30-2006, 10:16 PM	#3
Bronco Billy Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,322	DWill had a bad game against a great offense. I'm not ready to jump ship yet.

10-30-2006, 10:24 PM	#4
WABronco WE SUCK AGAIN All dat force Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 4,976	He's still a nice young player, with sizeable potential. If the coaching staff didn't have confidence in him he'd be ridin' the pine already...

10-30-2006, 10:24 PM	#6
SteveTensi13 GIVE ME SOME MORE ORANGE OLD SCHOOL BRONCO Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Helmand province, Afghanistan Posts: 1,830 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandon Stokley	I'll give him one more game to cowboy up.

10-30-2006, 10:25 PM	#7
Broncosfreak_56 Concrete Cyanide Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lakewood Posts: 1,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: Knowshon Moreno	D-will will bounce back.

10-30-2006, 10:32 PM	#9
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,899 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Well since Im still having nightmares of Big Ben scorching Foxworth, and my nightmare last night of DWill gettin scorched by Peyton, uhhhhhhh, KARL PAYMAH!!!!!

10-30-2006, 10:33 PM	#10
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,251	Give the guy a break. He had a terrible game. He will bounce back.

10-30-2006, 10:48 PM	#11
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,041	Can Cutler play corner?

10-30-2006, 10:49 PM	#12
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	I voted for Darrent, just so everyone knows.

10-30-2006, 10:53 PM	#14
maven ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,744	Neither CB are great. I'd be willing to give Foxy another chance. Peyton and Reggie Wayne ABUSED DW. Why not give foxy a chance... He couldn't do any worse than DW did this past Sunday.

10-31-2006, 12:59 AM	#16
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Go Darrent!

10-31-2006, 02:02 AM	#17
fontaine Ring of Famer Go John Manning! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,422	I believe in the guy. We have weak links in our Defense and pretty much everyone knows the lack of pass rush doesn't help. DWill had a pretty poor game but he was going up against one of the best QB-WR combinations. What he does NOW to pick himself up is most important. We had a previous high profile CB who went bust when he was down and beaten a few times instead of forgetting about it and moving on. I think DWill is too confident to let this get to him but he still needs to improve his coverage.

10-31-2006, 02:52 AM	#20
Northman The Enigma Prognosis Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bryci	Very few players can cover Reggie Wayne. Dwill had a bad game it happens.

10-31-2006, 03:10 AM	#21
Blart I'm gay for the Broncos! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: All @ same time	Coyer's fault not Darent's.

10-31-2006, 06:14 AM	#22
SportinOne Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,422	I don't think anyone could have covered what DW was put up against. I really would be curious to see what Champ could have done in that situation. Especially on that last touchdown. Champ likes to look at the QB most of the time and DW was simply trying not to get left in the dust. Still, DW wasn't too far away when the ball came in, and if he's looking at the ball instead of the receiver he might have had a chance to swat it. It was more of a timing thing, though, and Peyton threw it perfectly... DW didn't bight on the hook all day until that play, figures... The play i really don't understand was the 2pt conversion... That just shouldn't happen.. That was huge, and i don't think it's really been talked about at all. I think it's because we assume that Peyton should have his way with this defense no matter what, so look somewhere else for blame.. really this defense never came up big at all... not one play. We stopped them on two third downs but the Colts pretty much stopped themselves.. We were just spectators..

10-31-2006, 06:28 AM	#23
KillerBronco#76 Perennial Pro-bowler "The Beast" From the east Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 899	it seemed like on that touchown pass there was some confusion. He was talking to lynch in a hurry cause the colts were lined up and it looked like he thought he had saftey help over top. Thats why he bit on jumping the route. Then after the play he pointed at lynch and appeared pretty frustrated. I really think he got confused and thought he would get help over the top.

10-31-2006, 06:30 AM	#24
Mediator12 OM analyst REAL Front Seven Bandwagon !!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDY Posts: 9,701 Adopt-a-Bronco: Malik Jackson	This is been discussed better already Here: http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=48750&page=3 Listen to Darrent's interview about not knowing what the hell he was doing on two of three crucial TD's and then trying to say he did not do anything wrong and was not getting beaten all day long. This kid is not a rookie anymore and he should at least know what the terminology for which coverage they are running is and be able to understand the signals. Here is the interview: http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.ph...o&year=&month= When a CB blows coverage in the red Zone, its his fault. When he does not even know what coverage they are playing... Good Lord. I can handle the technical errors he made in that game. What I can not excuse is the mental errors in that type of game. If he stops one of those third down TD's the Broncos might have actually won and made Manning force throws late instead of having all day to get into FG range for the best clutch FG kicker of all time.

10-31-2006, 06:33 AM	#25
yhova Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 293	Foxworth is terrible. Williams gave up 3 td's, Foxworth would give up 5 td's.