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ZachKC · 10-29-2006, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

No you guys are good I just think the outcome would have been worse if you played Indy today. You would have lost by at least 14 since you have suspect CB's at best.

You would think a team that had CB's that were suspect at best would be lower than 6th in passing defense.

Bob's your Information Minister · 10-29-2006, 11:43 PM

Speaking of the Colts, I would love to see Larry Johnson play that defense.

ZachKC · 10-29-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Uh, no. You apparently don't know what a flava clown is. You sound like a 50 year old trying to be hip.

I will stick around more OMers for the information superhighway lingo and 12 year old schticks.

theAPAOps5 · 10-29-2006, 11:45 PM

No you have a pass rush that is why you guys are good at pass defense. Take that away and they are suspect. We have no pass rush and one of our CB's takes away one side of the field. Unfortunately Darrent he was suspect as well.

theAPAOps5 · 10-29-2006, 11:45 PM

I think any running back would love to play them, them make RBs look great!

Bob's your Information Minister · 10-29-2006, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

No you have a pass rush that is why you guys are good at pass defense.

We've got a solid pass rush, but they were shut down today. We still played well against the pass.

ZachKC · 10-29-2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

No you have a pass rush that is why you guys are good at pass defense. Take that away and they are suspect. We have no pass rush and one of our CB's takes away one side of the field. Unfortunately Darrent he was suspect as well.

Hahaha. So the only way you would qualify a KC team having CB's that are...using your words better than "suspect at BEST" we would have to have no pass rush.

Ever here of a coverage sack?

I guess our CB's have nothing to do with KC's pass defense numbers.

BigPlayShay · 10-29-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

I will stick around more OMers for the information superhighway lingo and 12 year old schticks.

You spend enough time here already.

theAPAOps5 · 10-29-2006, 11:48 PM

Yeah but that was Seneca Wallace I watched him tons of times when he was at Iowa State he is a running back who is tall, he can't throw! Still a win is a win and you guys are in the hunt so we can't rag you too much.

ZachKC · 10-29-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

I think any running back would love to play them, them make RBs look great!

Except for Tatum Bell.

mattbeymvp · 10-29-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

Hahaha. So the only way you would qualify a KC team having CB's that are...using your words better than "suspect at BEST" we would have to have no pass rush.

Ever here of a coverage sack?

I guess our CB's have nothing to do with KC's pass defense numbers.

When Ty Law fell flat on his face today in coverage I laughed really hard.

ZachKC · 10-29-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigPlayShay

You spend enough time here already.

I enjoy getting in about once a week.

theAPAOps5 · 10-29-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

Except for Tatum Bell.

No you have me there, Tatum was baaaaadddd today. He must be injured more than is being let on.

ZachKC · 10-29-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

No you have me there, Tatum was baaaaadddd today. He must be injured more than is being let on.

I didn't know he was injured at all. Did he tweak something?

BigPlayShay · 10-29-2006, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

I didn't know he was injured at all. Did he tweak something?

http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.ph...4&storyID=6155

TATUM SLOWED BY INJURY: Tatum Bell started Sunday's contest vs. the Colts as Denver's primary running back -- the same role he's filled since the season opener in St. Louis.

However, a toe injury he'd been pushing through all week kept him on the sideline for much of the second half, opening the door for Mike Bell's 136-yard, two-touchdown performance.

theAPAOps5 · 10-29-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

I didn't know he was injured at all. Did he tweak something?

He has turf toe and played through it last week but told the coaches at half time he couldn't go 100% so that is why there was a healthy dose of Mike Bell. Unfortunately that is par for the course with Tatum. He gets dinged up too much.

labronx · 10-30-2006, 12:07 AM

Back to the topic at hand.

Zach KC and Bob please exit stage left and thank you!

Slap,

Marino won with less talent than Manning because he was plain and simply more talented. Marino to me is the best pocket or pure passer I've ever seen.

His arm strength, release, pressence, field vision was amazing. It was trully dissapointing as a fan of the NFL that he never won a ring especially in the latter part of his career, once Elway had won his.

You give Marino the Bills teams of the 90's and he would have won atleast one ring.

Taco,

Thats the whole thing, Manning is amazing at a level that Plummer has no idea about and never will be.

Lets Stop playing the blame game and realize it is what it is.
Like Slap said, Manning is Robot, Plummer is goof who plays football for a living and has other interests in life. Manning is a Quarterback 24hrs of the day all the time.

Thats the why its so idiotic to try to blame the D. Thats a freakin joke, Manning can't be stopped, only the dude that does is Bellicheck and Manning will most likely beat him this year.

Pittsburgh got lucky and they have a franchise QB. So it helps to be lucky and good.
Plus Indi had some weird stuff happen to them down the stretch that affected their team psyche.

The reason they won is Peyton Manning.
The reason we lost is Peyton Manning.

We didn't have one on the field today...but we will soon.

That is what pisses me off the most, now I know how Browns fans felt back in the days.

Blame it on the D...pifff what a joke...and Plummer played great right?

dang im pissed especially at the never ending stupid a$$ excuses for Plummer.

The dude is straight up average at best and I can't wait for Cutler to play and put an end to this played out argument.

I cant wait to fully blame Cutler atleast I know it's not Plummer anymore. It's gotten worse than Griese.

Atleast I knew Griese had no heart so u had an explanation, with Plummer we HAVE to accept that we dont have the guns to compete.

it is what it is.

Jake Plummer
Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Ben Rothlisberger
Donovan McNabb
Jake Delohme
Trent Dilfer
Kerry Collins
Kurt Warner
Steve McNair
Rich Gannon
Brad Johnson
Matt Hasslebeck

fdf · 10-30-2006, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by killericon

Truth...But it was too heart-breaking to just say "We were out-played".

But even worse to say we have been outplayed by them every important game we have played against them for years. Big changes are necessary before we have any reasonable chance to win a key game against them. We just don't have the horsepower and haven't for years.

Taco John · 10-30-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

I will stick around more OMers for the information superhighway lingo and 12 year old schticks.

Haha! Yeah. Admit it. You come here for football talk in between moderating biggest dump and Skip Towne meltdown threads

broncocalijohn · 10-30-2006, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rascal

challenge?

Since when was playing toss with Wayne a challenge? Don't distract this...we lost because Coyer and the Defense didn't adjust and they were owned (especially the d-line and DW to a lesser extent IMO).

dont be a poor loser. He manages his team, histiming is superb and sees everything. I dont know if Manning plays chess but he comes to play with that mentality. He is awesome. Any other disagree?

BroncoFanCam · 10-30-2006, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 56crash

this might sound strange but I blame this lose on Al Wilson ! he never seems to be in the right place in Passing situations. why is that ?

It's not Al Wilson's responsibility to help a corner that is being burned, it's one of the saftey's job. They can't do it, unless the coach calls the play though.

OrangeShadow · 10-30-2006, 05:04 AM

i just dont see how a team that cant stop anyone on offense is going to contend late in the year. You can physically RUN OVER them as we did today i think New england has a chance to beat them because they get pressure on the quarterback

riiiiick · 10-30-2006, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Look here, SoCal. If you want to crown their asses, then CROWN THEIR ASS!

They are exactly who we thought they were!

-Slap- · 10-30-2006, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

Senecca>Plummer

You might want to at least spell the guy's name correctly.

Anyway, Jake played a pretty solid game yesterday. The resident knuckleheads are hailing him like Johnny Unitas, but that was to be expected.

I almost agree with you, though. The Kubiak/Shanahan tandem could have taken a guy like Wallace and molded him into basically about what we've got under center right now.

I'll be interested to see if Jake can extend his level of competent play to two consecutive weeks against a 3-4 defense that will take away his rollouts.

Mile High Shack · 10-30-2006, 06:16 AM

I don't get the Payaton love here TJ

he is a great QB, but you hit him in the mouth and try to disguise coverages, rather than just playing straight up zone, you can beat him

Look at NE and Pitt, what they normally do to him.

we did none of that and Coyer failed to adjust...like normal against a good offense

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10-29-2006, 11:43 PM	#77
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Speaking of the Colts, I would love to see Larry Johnson play that defense.

10-29-2006, 11:45 PM	#79
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	No you have a pass rush that is why you guys are good at pass defense. Take that away and they are suspect. We have no pass rush and one of our CB's takes away one side of the field. Unfortunately Darrent he was suspect as well.

10-29-2006, 11:48 PM	#84
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Yeah but that was Seneca Wallace I watched him tons of times when he was at Iowa State he is a running back who is tall, he can't throw! Still a win is a win and you guys are in the hunt so we can't rag you too much.

10-30-2006, 12:07 AM	#92
labronx Fluid Hips Astronomy, Math, Medicine & Music Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The San Fernando Valley (5th largest city in the country!) Posts: 1,958	Back to the topic at hand. Zach KC and Bob please exit stage left and thank you! Slap, Marino won with less talent than Manning because he was plain and simply more talented. Marino to me is the best pocket or pure passer I've ever seen. His arm strength, release, pressence, field vision was amazing. It was trully dissapointing as a fan of the NFL that he never won a ring especially in the latter part of his career, once Elway had won his. You give Marino the Bills teams of the 90's and he would have won atleast one ring. Taco, Thats the whole thing, Manning is amazing at a level that Plummer has no idea about and never will be. Lets Stop playing the blame game and realize it is what it is. Like Slap said, Manning is Robot, Plummer is goof who plays football for a living and has other interests in life. Manning is a Quarterback 24hrs of the day all the time. Thats the why its so idiotic to try to blame the D. Thats a freakin joke, Manning can't be stopped, only the dude that does is Bellicheck and Manning will most likely beat him this year. Pittsburgh got lucky and they have a franchise QB. So it helps to be lucky and good. Plus Indi had some weird stuff happen to them down the stretch that affected their team psyche. The reason they won is Peyton Manning. The reason we lost is Peyton Manning. We didn't have one on the field today...but we will soon. That is what pisses me off the most, now I know how Browns fans felt back in the days. Blame it on the D...pifff what a joke...and Plummer played great right? dang im pissed especially at the never ending stupid a$$ excuses for Plummer. The dude is straight up average at best and I can't wait for Cutler to play and put an end to this played out argument. I cant wait to fully blame Cutler atleast I know it's not Plummer anymore. It's gotten worse than Griese. Atleast I knew Griese had no heart so u had an explanation, with Plummer we HAVE to accept that we dont have the guns to compete. it is what it is. Jake Plummer Peyton Manning Tom Brady Ben Rothlisberger Donovan McNabb Jake Delohme Trent Dilfer Kerry Collins Kurt Warner Steve McNair Rich Gannon Brad Johnson Matt Hasslebeck

10-30-2006, 05:04 AM	#97
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	i just dont see how a team that cant stop anyone on offense is going to contend late in the year. You can physically RUN OVER them as we did today i think New england has a chance to beat them because they get pressure on the quarterback

10-30-2006, 06:16 AM	#100
Mile High Shack Ring of Famer Cock-a-doodle-do Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 17,010	I don't get the Payaton love here TJ he is a great QB, but you hit him in the mouth and try to disguise coverages, rather than just playing straight up zone, you can beat him Look at NE and Pitt, what they normally do to him. we did none of that and Coyer failed to adjust...like normal against a good offense