Some voter information (these Senators need to go!!!!!) - The Orange Mane

spdirty · 10-29-2006, 08:59 PM

Got this in an email. Figured I'd share.

THESE ARE THE SENATORS WHO VOTED TO GIVE ILLEGAL ALIENS SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS. REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL PARTY, THESE POLITICIANS NEED TO BE DEFEATED IN 2006, 2008 OR 2010 WHENEVER THEY COME UP FOR OFFICE.

BE SURE YOU ARE REGISTERED
TO VOTE!!! SEND THIS TO ANYONE YOU KNOW IN ANY OF THE STATES LISTED. THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEED TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION. THAT IS UNLESS THEY DO NOT MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS WHEN AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE BEING LEFT OUT.

Grouped by Home State
Alabama:
Alaska: Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Arizona: McCain (R-AZ), Yea
Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Yea
California: Boxer (D-CA), Yea Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Colorado: Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Yea Carper (D-DE), Yea
Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Yea
Georgia:
Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Idaho:
Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Yea Obama (D-IL), Yea
Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Iowa: Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Kentucky:
Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Maine:
Maryland: Mikulski (D-MD), Yea Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Yea Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Minnesota:
Mississippi:
Missouri:
Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Nevada: Reid (D-NV), Yea
New Hampshire:
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
New York: Clinton (D-NY), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea
North Carolina:
North Dakota: Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Ohio: DeWine (R-OH), Yea Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Oklahoma:
Oregon: Wyden (D-OR), Yea
Pennsylvania: Specter (R-PA), Yea
Rhode Island: Chafee (R-RI), Yea Reed (D-RI), Yea
South Carolina: Graham (R-SC), Yea
South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Tennessee:
Texas:
Utah:
Vermont: Jeffords (I-VT), Yea Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Virginia:
Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Murray (D-WA), Yea
West Virginia: Rockefeller (D-WV), Not Voting
Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Yea Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Wyoming:

Crushaholic · 10-29-2006, 09:18 PM

unbelievable...

One way to fix the Social Security system is not give it to people who aren't supposed to be here in the first place. I can't believe that's a hard concept for our politicians to grasp...

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-30-2006, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

unbelievable...

Not when you understand that their first loyalty is to people who benefit from illegal immigration as opposed to average Americans like us.

gunns · 10-30-2006, 05:18 AM

I'm also wondering why we are giving some legal aliens social security benefits within months of them arriving in this country.

W*GS · 10-30-2006, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Not when you understand that their first loyalty is to people who benefit from illegal immigration as opposed to average Americans like us.

So how come, out of that list of 50, 38 are Democrats, including Obama, Kennedy, Kerry, Clinton, and Schumer?

defenseman · 10-30-2006, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunns

I'm also wondering why we are giving some legal aliens social security benefits within months of them arriving in this country.

You are wondering with good reason. They certianly have NOT earned it. Imagine if it gets passed? You couldn't do anything to stem the tide. Free handouts, free coverage courtesy of the our elected officials with OUR money. How nice. Every one of them that voted yes deserves to be slapped silly....dman

Barry Ramey · 10-30-2006, 08:49 AM

I have heard of illegals finding a way to get money back from tax returns even though they didn't pay anything in somehow using false documents and W2's.

defenseman · 10-30-2006, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

I have heard of illegals finding a way to get money back from tax returns even though they didn't pay anything in somehow using false documents and W2's.

Heard and evidence are two different things. If they are though, wouldn't surprise me in the least...dman

Barry Ramey · 10-30-2006, 09:12 AM

Well, it's someone that works at the same place as someone I know basically boasting about it and that person claiming knowing others who have somehow done this as well.

alkemical · 10-30-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

Well, it's someone that works at the same place as someone I know basically boasting about it and that person claiming knowing others who have somehow done this as well.

Hearsay?

Barry Ramey · 10-30-2006, 09:31 AM

Nope, but could be someone just pretending they scam the government, but I don't know what that accomplishes. Plus, I believe they aren't able to do this alone. This wouldn't shock me since there are people where I live that are illegal and have fake social security numbers and the companies know it. Plus schools here are not allowed by law to to turn in someone they suspect is illegal. Arizona has some unusual laws in regards to this matter.

alkemical · 10-30-2006, 02:05 PM

If you guys want to do any legwork on maybe who got what monies from where -

www.opensecrets.org

W*GS · 10-30-2006, 02:34 PM

I've looked at opensecrets.org many times. Interesting data.

alkemical · 10-30-2006, 02:43 PM

Well wags. Even though i know you disagree with my "f the system" mantra - deep down i only want to do whats best.

Unfortunatly instead of hacking at the branches, i choose to go for the root. But i try to do with the understanding of comprimise, in that even though in my heart - i'm an anarchist (but understanding of the pros/cons - that not everyone can live in an anarchist society) - but am willing to comprimise on the Constitution.

Do i have answer on how to take the power back to the people? It's hard with big business and big money from lobbysts? not really.

Somedays i subscribe to R. A. Wilson's character hagaberd celine from the illuminatus trillogy - in that a corrupt politician is safer than a 'do-gooder' (if i may speak on bush's level). Other days i prefer to just throw gasoline on Nero's fire and accelerate the process - no matter the pain and consequences - in order to start new again.

It's my dichotomy.

gunns · 10-30-2006, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

I have heard of illegals finding a way to get money back from tax returns even though they didn't pay anything in somehow using false documents and W2's.

I've heard of American citizens doing that.

10-29-2006, 08:59 PM	#1
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,923 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quentin Jammer	Some voter information (these Senators need to go!!!!!) Got this in an email. Figured I'd share. THESE ARE THE SENATORS WHO VOTED TO GIVE ILLEGAL ALIENS SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS. REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL PARTY, THESE POLITICIANS NEED TO BE DEFEATED IN 2006, 2008 OR 2010 WHENEVER THEY COME UP FOR OFFICE. BE SURE YOU ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE!!! SEND THIS TO ANYONE YOU KNOW IN ANY OF THE STATES LISTED. THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES NEED TO KNOW THIS INFORMATION. THAT IS UNLESS THEY DO NOT MIND SHARING THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY WITH FOREIGN WORKERS WHEN AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE BEING LEFT OUT. Grouped by Home State Alabama: Alaska: Stevens (R-AK), Yea Arizona: McCain (R-AZ), Yea Arkansas: Lincoln (D-AR), Yea Pryor (D-AR), Yea California: Boxer (D-CA), Yea Feinstein (D-CA), Yea Colorado: Salazar (D-CO), Yea Connecticut: Dodd (D-CT), Yea Lieberman (D-CT), Yea Delaware: Biden (D-DE), Yea Carper (D-DE), Yea Florida: Martinez (R-FL), Yea Georgia: Hawaii: Akaka (D-HI), Yea Inouye (D-HI), Yea Idaho: Illinois: Durbin (D-IL), Yea Obama (D-IL), Yea Indiana: Bayh (D-IN), Yea Lugar (R-IN), Yea Iowa: Harkin (D-IA), Yea Kansas: Brownback (R-KS), Yea Kentucky: Louisiana: Landrieu (D-LA), Yea Maine: Maryland: Mikulski (D-MD), Yea Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea Massachusetts: Kennedy (D-MA), Yea Kerry (D-MA), Yea Michigan: Levin (D-MI), Yea Stabenow (D-MI), Yea Minnesota: Mississippi: Missouri: Montana: Baucus (D-MT), Yea Nebraska: Hagel (R-NE), Yea Nevada: Reid (D-NV), Yea New Hampshire: New Jersey: Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea Menendez (D-NJ), Yea New Mexico: Bingaman (D-NM), Yea New York: Clinton (D-NY), Yea Schumer (D-NY), Yea North Carolina: North Dakota: Dorgan (D-ND), Yea Ohio: DeWine (R-OH), Yea Voinovich (R-OH), Yea Oklahoma: Oregon: Wyden (D-OR), Yea Pennsylvania: Specter (R-PA), Yea Rhode Island: Chafee (R-RI), Yea Reed (D-RI), Yea South Carolina: Graham (R-SC), Yea South Dakota: Johnson (D-SD), Yea Tennessee: Texas: Utah: Vermont: Jeffords (I-VT), Yea Leahy (D-VT), Yea Virginia: Washington: Cantwell (D-WA), Yea Murray (D-WA), Yea West Virginia: Rockefeller (D-WV), Not Voting Wisconsin: Feingold (D-WI), Yea Kohl (D-WI), Yea Wyoming:

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10-29-2006, 09:18 PM	#2
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,079	unbelievable... One way to fix the Social Security system is not give it to people who aren't supposed to be here in the first place. I can't believe that's a hard concept for our politicians to grasp...

10-30-2006, 05:18 AM	#4
gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,745 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	I'm also wondering why we are giving some legal aliens social security benefits within months of them arriving in this country.

10-30-2006, 08:49 AM	#7
Barry Ramey Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,700	I have heard of illegals finding a way to get money back from tax returns even though they didn't pay anything in somehow using false documents and W2's.

10-30-2006, 09:12 AM	#9
Barry Ramey Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,700	Well, it's someone that works at the same place as someone I know basically boasting about it and that person claiming knowing others who have somehow done this as well.

10-30-2006, 09:31 AM	#11
Barry Ramey Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,700	Nope, but could be someone just pretending they scam the government, but I don't know what that accomplishes. Plus, I believe they aren't able to do this alone. This wouldn't shock me since there are people where I live that are illegal and have fake social security numbers and the companies know it. Plus schools here are not allowed by law to to turn in someone they suspect is illegal. Arizona has some unusual laws in regards to this matter.

10-30-2006, 02:05 PM	#12
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,723 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	If you guys want to do any legwork on maybe who got what monies from where - www.opensecrets.org

10-30-2006, 02:34 PM	#13
W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,601	I've looked at opensecrets.org many times. Interesting data.

10-30-2006, 02:43 PM	#14
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,723 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Well wags. Even though i know you disagree with my "f the system" mantra - deep down i only want to do whats best. Unfortunatly instead of hacking at the branches, i choose to go for the root. But i try to do with the understanding of comprimise, in that even though in my heart - i'm an anarchist (but understanding of the pros/cons - that not everyone can live in an anarchist society) - but am willing to comprimise on the Constitution. Do i have answer on how to take the power back to the people? It's hard with big business and big money from lobbysts? not really. Somedays i subscribe to R. A. Wilson's character hagaberd celine from the illuminatus trillogy - in that a corrupt politician is safer than a 'do-gooder' (if i may speak on bush's level). Other days i prefer to just throw gasoline on Nero's fire and accelerate the process - no matter the pain and consequences - in order to start new again. It's my dichotomy.