Why Didn't Shanahan Try And Win This Game? - The Orange Mane

Bronco_Beerslug · 10-29-2006, 05:22 PM

We were at Colt's 32 yard line with 3:24 to go and basically sat on the ball to go for a tie.

Does anyone here think Manning and Colts would have played for a tie in that position or went for the win?

Why didn't we throw the ball down there and try and get a TD to win the game?

SprintRightOption · 10-29-2006, 06:04 PM

Shanny probably thought we could run 5-7 running plays and take up all the clock and score in the very end. I can see the reasoning, but we really should have been more creative than 2 runs up the middle and then a straight dropback pass where the D could pin their ears back instead of a boot or Sprint Right Option.

broncos love · 10-29-2006, 06:10 PM

Im sorry people but the broncos got beat by the better team today. The offense did everthing it could do but didnt have the ball last .

freak6 · 10-29-2006, 06:14 PM

I think the formations called to end that drive were weak as the colts stacked the line to stop the run, we should've spread them out on the 2nd down play. And still ran it. That said, I think Mike was planning on a 3rd and 5 or less, not 8.

To many new threads. I'm going out and having some fun, enjoying our 5-2 record.

Same record as last year!!!

Blart · 10-29-2006, 06:16 PM

Tatum: slip!
Mike: slip!

3rd down and 9...
Offensive line: SLIP

and that was the end of our offense.

TheDave · 10-29-2006, 06:17 PM

Give me a break Slug... Do you honestely think that Shanahan got down to the 32 and then decided to play for the tie. NO

Problem was that on the next play Tatum ran head first into a pile (again)... the next play mike bell slipped... Then Jake did a good job of avoiding the sack only to throw one in the dirt. We just didn't execute.

-Slap- · 10-29-2006, 06:21 PM

Major props to Jason Elam for that pressure 49 yarder to tie the game. What a great Bronco he's been and I consider kickers a necessary evil at best.

spdirty · 10-29-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDave

Give me a break Slug... Do you honestely think that Shanahan got down to the 32 and then decided to play for the tie. NO

Problem was that on the next play Tatum ran head first into a pile (again)... the next play mike bell slipped... Then Jake did a good job of avoiding the sack only to throw one in the dirt. We just didn't execute.

Exactly Dave. We had run for 116 yards in THE 4TH QUARTER!!!!!!!! There is no way Shanny screwed us. Had Mike not have slipped that play was wide open for at least a first down run. Maybe more. We'd have killed the clock, and won the game. You are an a$$hat, a retard, an artard, a moron, and you probably watched the game with eyes closed if you truly think that we lost because of Mike Shanahans play calling at the end. Their defense was absolutely gassed and there was no reason to think that we wouldn't be able to run the same exact play 5 more times and not get a touchdown. 2 slips lost that game.

And no pass rush.

admac4 · 10-29-2006, 06:32 PM

Today goes to show what I've been saying all year. It's not Jake, Shanny's game calling has been too conservative!!!

Granted, the Bells clanked at the end, but what about the other games? 17 pts against the Browns? Come on!! It's like Mike doesn't want to answer the QB questions so he's cut back on the game plan. If that's the case, put Cutler in and play for next year. If that's not the plan, then call the game the way it's been for the last 10+ years.

Garcia Bronco · 10-29-2006, 06:36 PM

I felt like we were in 4 down territory and should have run it twice to get a first

spdirty · 10-29-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by admac4

Today goes to show what I've been saying all year. It's not Jake, Shanny's game calling has been too conservative!!!

Granted, the Bells clanked at the end, but what about the other games? 17 pts against the Browns? Come on!! It's like Mike doesn't want to answer the QB questions so he's cut back on the game plan. If that's the case, put Cutler in and play for next year. If that's not the plan, then call the game the way it's been for the last 10+ years.

116 rush yards in the 4th quarter after the 50+ run. What the hell makes you think we wouldnt have been successful keeping it on the ground and running it in at the end? Don't be stupid.

Barry Ramey · 10-29-2006, 06:46 PM

Unfortunately, the first play in that situation was wasted with a run by Tatum who did what he did the whole game and fall over himself and got nothing.

admac4 · 10-29-2006, 06:47 PM

Keeping it on the ground would've been fine, but it's been like this all year. While I agree that Jake is NOT the future and to get back to the SB it'll take someone else. Shanahan has not done much to ease the pressure from Plummer. Granted, Jake makes some dumb plays, but he isn't the only reason the offense isn't clicking. No one's talking about Kubiak's departure.

fatcard · 10-29-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I felt like we were in 4 down territory and should have run it twice to get a first

yup... we couldn't even afford to give the colts a minute left the way they were going, and we were averaging 8 per carry in the 4th quarter or something ridiculous.

Bob's your Information Minister · 10-29-2006, 07:02 PM

It would have required a pass, and Shanahan has NO CONFIDENCE in his quarterback.

theAPAOps5 · 10-29-2006, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blart

Tatum: slip!
Mike: slip!

3rd down and 9...
Offensive line: SLIP

and that was the end of our offense.

Than you. MBell slipped and had some daylight. That play and the previous play just made it really hard to do anything. It was obvious throwing down and they forced Jake to pocket pass and go pressure. Kudos to Jake for slipping the sack and keeping FG range.

Time to get longer cleats!!!!

fatcard · 10-29-2006, 07:05 PM

they knew we were running and they still couldn't stop us (we stopped ourselves in the end)... unlucky really

fatcard · 10-29-2006, 07:08 PM

in hindsight... after getting the first down at the 30, wind the clock, take a TO and let Mike Bell catch his breath. tatum was doing nothing at that point.

DeuceOfClub · 10-29-2006, 07:16 PM

Shanahan tried to repeat what he did so successfully in the end of the first half.

broncosteven · 10-29-2006, 07:17 PM

Had both Bells not slipped & actually converted we would have been able to run down the clock. Had we passed on 1st & 2nd they would have had more time & we would have ran risk of Plummer INT.

Kaylore · 10-29-2006, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by broncos love

Im sorry people but the broncos got beat by the better team today. The offense did everthing it could do but didnt have the ball last .

I agree. I was pretty sore about that fumble, but other than that, if your offense scores 31 points, that's all you can ask. All our drives were long and put points on the board, mostly touchdowns. Shanahan had run on them at will and then both backs fell down at the end there. It just bounced the Colts' way.

Mile High Shack · 10-29-2006, 07:48 PM

he didn't, we were running the ball really really well, so why not continue doing what is working.

our offensive line blew it on the 3rd down play and it was only due to a great play by Plummer we even had a chance to kick the FG to tie

Garcia Bronco · 10-29-2006, 08:08 PM

bottom line...we got clowned and everybody lost this close one.

Bronco_Beerslug · 10-30-2006, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDave

Give me a break Slug... Do you honestely think that Shanahan got down to the 32 and then decided to play for the tie. NO

Problem was that on the next play Tatum ran head first into a pile (again)... the next play mike bell slipped... Then Jake did a good job of avoiding the sack only to throw one in the dirt. We just didn't execute.

If he wasn't then why did we hand the ball off to Tatum Bell up the middle who was hardly able to walk all game let alone run the ball and then Mike Bell up the middle? They were stacked against the run on both plays. You don't think play action or a bootleg might have worked down there to get another first down getting us closer to getting a TD?

And like I said, Do you think Manning and the Colts would have run up the middle twice or tried to score a TD and take the lead?

Smiling Assassin27 · 10-30-2006, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDave

Give me a break Slug... Do you honestely think that Shanahan got down to the 32 and then decided to play for the tie. NO

Problem was that on the next play Tatum ran head first into a pile (again)... the next play mike bell slipped... Then Jake did a good job of avoiding the sack only to throw one in the dirt. We just didn't execute.

it was obvious. when it was 2nd and 10 after bell fell down, this team shut down. you have javon who was getting open all day long and shanny decides to take the colts into OT. bad decision.

10-29-2006, 05:22 PM	#1
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	Why Didn't Shanahan Try And Win This Game? We were at Colt's 32 yard line with 3:24 to go and basically sat on the ball to go for a tie. Does anyone here think Manning and Colts would have played for a tie in that position or went for the win? Why didn't we throw the ball down there and try and get a TD to win the game?

10-29-2006, 06:10 PM	#3
broncos love THE MAN Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 822	Im sorry people but the broncos got beat by the better team today. The offense did everthing it could do but didnt have the ball last . Last edited by broncos love; 10-29-2006 at 06:13 PM..

10-29-2006, 06:32 PM	#9
admac4 Just Drafted Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2	Today goes to show what I've been saying all year. It's not Jake, Shanny's game calling has been too conservative!!! Granted, the Bells clanked at the end, but what about the other games? 17 pts against the Browns? Come on!! It's like Mike doesn't want to answer the QB questions so he's cut back on the game plan. If that's the case, put Cutler in and play for next year. If that's not the plan, then call the game the way it's been for the last 10+ years. Last edited by admac4; 10-29-2006 at 06:38 PM..

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10-29-2006, 06:04 PM	#2
SprintRightOption Back on track in 08 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 391	Shanny probably thought we could run 5-7 running plays and take up all the clock and score in the very end. I can see the reasoning, but we really should have been more creative than 2 runs up the middle and then a straight dropback pass where the D could pin their ears back instead of a boot or Sprint Right Option.

10-29-2006, 06:14 PM	#4
freak6 3,631 - WAKE UP!!!! Impeach President Cheney and Puppet Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,651 Adopt-a-Bronco: MJK	I think the formations called to end that drive were weak as the colts stacked the line to stop the run, we should've spread them out on the 2nd down play. And still ran it. That said, I think Mike was planning on a 3rd and 5 or less, not 8. To many new threads. I'm going out and having some fun, enjoying our 5-2 record. Same record as last year!!!

10-29-2006, 06:16 PM	#5
Blart I'm gay for the Broncos! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: All @ same time	Tatum: slip! Mike: slip! 3rd down and 9... Offensive line: SLIP and that was the end of our offense.

10-29-2006, 06:17 PM	#6
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	Give me a break Slug... Do you honestely think that Shanahan got down to the 32 and then decided to play for the tie. NO Problem was that on the next play Tatum ran head first into a pile (again)... the next play mike bell slipped... Then Jake did a good job of avoiding the sack only to throw one in the dirt. We just didn't execute.

10-29-2006, 06:21 PM	#7
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Major props to Jason Elam for that pressure 49 yarder to tie the game. What a great Bronco he's been and I consider kickers a necessary evil at best.

10-29-2006, 06:36 PM	#10
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	I felt like we were in 4 down territory and should have run it twice to get a first

10-29-2006, 06:46 PM	#12
Barry Ramey Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,700	Unfortunately, the first play in that situation was wasted with a run by Tatum who did what he did the whole game and fall over himself and got nothing.

10-29-2006, 06:47 PM	#13
admac4 Just Drafted Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2	Keeping it on the ground would've been fine, but it's been like this all year. While I agree that Jake is NOT the future and to get back to the SB it'll take someone else. Shanahan has not done much to ease the pressure from Plummer. Granted, Jake makes some dumb plays, but he isn't the only reason the offense isn't clicking. No one's talking about Kubiak's departure.

10-29-2006, 07:02 PM	#15
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	It would have required a pass, and Shanahan has NO CONFIDENCE in his quarterback.

10-29-2006, 07:05 PM	#17
fatcard Seasoned Veteran *No Sht** Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 253	they knew we were running and they still couldn't stop us (we stopped ourselves in the end)... unlucky really

10-29-2006, 07:08 PM	#18
fatcard Seasoned Veteran *No Sht** Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 253	in hindsight... after getting the first down at the 30, wind the clock, take a TO and let Mike Bell catch his breath. tatum was doing nothing at that point.

10-29-2006, 07:16 PM	#19
DeuceOfClub ™ 'Tebow Effect' in full effect Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indian Rocks Beach Posts: 1,115 Adopt-a-Bronco: Aaron Brewer	Shanahan tried to repeat what he did so successfully in the end of the first half.

10-29-2006, 07:17 PM	#20
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,036 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	Had both Bells not slipped & actually converted we would have been able to run down the clock. Had we passed on 1st & 2nd they would have had more time & we would have ran risk of Plummer INT.

10-29-2006, 07:48 PM	#22
Mile High Shack Ring of Famer Cock-a-doodle-do Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 17,010	he didn't, we were running the ball really really well, so why not continue doing what is working. our offensive line blew it on the 3rd down play and it was only due to a great play by Plummer we even had a chance to kick the FG to tie

10-29-2006, 08:08 PM	#23
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	bottom line...we got clowned and everybody lost this close one.