Allens Revenge - The Orange Mane

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 07:39 PM

Perfect timing too. But I think the bigger question is, when did Pelosi and Reid know about this?? I think there should be an investigation.

http://drudgereport.com/flashaw.htm

ALLEN'S REVENGE: EXPOSES UNDERAGE SEX SCENES IN OPPONENT'S NOVELS
Thu Oct 26 2006 20:05:37 ET

Sen. George Allen, R-VA, unleashed a press release late Thursday that exposed his rival's fiction writing, which includes graphic underage sex scenes.

The press release, as provided by the Allen Campaign:

WEBB’S WEIRD WORLD

The Author’s Disturbing Writings Show a Continued Pattern of Demeaning Women

· Some of Webb’s writings are very disturbing for a candidate hoping to represent the families of Virginians in the U.S. Senate.

· Many excellent books about the United States military and wartime service accomplish their purposes, and even win awards, without systematically demeaning women, and without dehumanizing women, men and even children.

· Webb’s novels disturbingly and consistently – indeed, almost uniformly – portray women as servile, subordinate, inept, incompetent, promiscuous, perverted, or some combination of these. In novel after novel, Webb assigns his female characters base, negative characteristics. In thousands of pages of fiction penned by Webb, there are few if any strong, admirable women or positive female role models.

Why does Jim Webb refuse to portray women in a respectful, positive light, whether in his non-fiction concerning their role in the military, or in his provocative novels? How can women trust him to represent their views in the Senate when chauvinistic attitudes and sexually exploitive references run throughout his fiction and non-fiction writings?

· Most Virginians and Americans would find passages such as those below shocking, especially coming from the pen of someone who seeks the privilege of serving in the United States Senate, one of the highest offices in the land:

– Lost Soldiers: “A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy’s penis in his mouth.”

Bantam Books, NY, 1st Edition, 2001, (hard cover), page 333.
Quote is from para. 10,.Chap. 34.

– Something to Die For: "Fogarty . . . watch[ed] a naked young stripper do the splits over a banana. She stood back up, her face smiling proudly and her round breasts glistening from a spotlight in the dim bar, and left the banana on the bar, cut in four equal sections by the muscles of her vagina."

William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 36.
Avon Books, New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 35
Quote is from para. 29, Chap. 2 “The South China Sea,”, Section 2

– A Country Such as This: "[He] could see Jawbone and Ashley Asthmatic [two guards at a Vietnamese prison camp] napping together in the grass. They faced inward, their arms entwined. It looked like they were masturbating each other. It didn't surprise him. … It was common to see men holding hands, embracing, playing with each other. Some of them [the guards] had wanted him. He could tell in those evanescent moments between his bao cao bow, the obligatory deference when a guard entered his cell, and the first word or blow that followed it… Quick, grinding voices, turgid with repressed passion. An exploratory reaching of the hand near his groin…”

Doubleday & Co., Garden City, NY, 1983 (hardcover); page 396.
Bluejacket Books, 2001 (Trade paperback edition), page 396
Page numbers are the same in the Naval Institute Press (paperback) edition, 1983.
Quote is from fifth para, Part 5 “A Country Such As This,” Chap. 24, Section 1

– A Sense of Honor: “Nurse Goodbody, dark and voluptuous (Lenahan had forgotten her actual name, it was something long and Italian), was a bedtime friend to many of the doctors in Bethesda. She had hinted to Lenahan that she simply could not contain herself. Doctors tending to patients, she explained, aroused her. Morphine Mary (again Lenahan could not remember her exact name) was a thin, nervous drill sergeant type, a disciplinarian who did not allow her patients even to complain. Lenahan was convinced that Morphine Mary did not even sleep with her husband. She wasn’t bad looking, he mused again, staring at her thin frame. If she’d just get laid every now and then she’d mellow out and stop being such a damn witch.” (p. 164) (Lenahan brings Goodbody home with him and has sex, pp. 188-190)

Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 164
Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 164
Quote is from fourth para in Part 3, “Chapter 4:1600”

– Something to Die For: "[Fogarty] has been thinking of the firm, springy skin and the sweet smells of a young Filipina woman named Maria in whose bed he had spent three nights almost twenty years ago. . . . She was a deliciously bad young woman. . . . On the second night, he had brought her a box of Godiva chocolates . . . . he had awakened to find her in the bathroom, sitting on the toilet with her knees underneath her chin, eating chocolates and counting her rosary beads as she prayed."

William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 32.
Avon Books New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 30
Quote is from third para in Chapter 2 “South China Sea,”, Part 2

– Something to Die For: "We're on our way to becoming the world's recreational center, a nation [USA] not to be taken seriously. Where are we still the undisputed leader? Music. Movies. Fast food. Drugs. . . . the billboards fifty years from now as you come over the bridge and stop at the tollbooths outside Manhattan: A smiling beautiful naked woman, and the sign saying AMERICAN ASS IS OUR MOST IMPORTANT PRODUCT."

William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 199.
Avon Books New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 237
Quote is from para. 38, Chap. 13, Part 1, (five paras before Part 2).

– Fields of Fire: Snake (the protagonist) sees his mother on the bed: "She looked as if she were carefully attempting to re-create a picture from some long-forgotten men's magazine . . . . She was naked underneath the robe . . . . and the robe fell loosely away, revealing her. Snake shrugged resignedly."

Prentice-Hall, New York, 1978 (Hardcover, 1st edition), p. 8
Bantam Books "mass market [paperback] edition" published in Sept. 2001. p. 9.
Quote is from paragraphs 18-23, Part 1 “The Best We Have”, Section 1
(NOTE: Part 1 is after the Prologue)

– Fields of Fire: "He saw the invitation with every bouncing breast and curved hip. . . . He was thirteen. . . . She was fifteen . . . . In a few moments she drew him to her and he murmured in his quiet voice, 'I am still small.' 'You are large enough,' she answered. And he found he was."

Prentice-Hall, New York, 1978 (Hardcover, 1st edition), pp. 211-212
Bantam Books "mass market [paperback] ed." published in Sept. 2001, pp. 280-81.
Quote is from paragraphs 8-20, Part 2 “The End of the Pipeline,” Chapter 24

– A Sense of Honor: “… that is, if you knew who your sister was, Brustein, and if she’d been born with anything between her legs except an a-hole, I’d be happy to bring some class to your low-rent name by knocking the b**** up.” (p. 223)

Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 223
Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 223
Quote is from 17th para in Part 4, “Chapter 7:1930”

– A Sense of Honor: “You wouldn’t have believed it, Swede. She just dropped her britches and lifted up her skirt and pissed like a man. Didn’t lose a drop, either. Not a drop.” (p. 183)

Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 183
Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 183
Quote is from 23rd para in Part 3, “Chapter 8: 2300”

END

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 07:41 PM

Webb Says His Novels 'Inappropriate' for News Radio
By Nathan Burchfiel
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
October 27, 2006

(Editor's note: Corrects quote in the 10th paragraph.)

(CNSNews.com) - In an interview on Washington Post Radio Friday morning, Jim Webb, the Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Virginia, said excerpts of his novels are "a little bit inappropriate" to be read on news radio.

"I don't know why you're reading that on WTOP," Webb told host Mark Plotkin. "I think it's a little bit inappropriate."

Plotkin was reading an excerpt from Webb's novel "Something to Die For," in which Webb describes a female stripper performing sexual acts with a banana.

"I don't think that's appropriate for you to read on WTOP," Webb said again as Plotkin finished the excerpt. (Washington Post Radio is WTOP's sister station.)

The campaign of Republican Sen. George Allen on Thursday released excerpts from some of the war novels Webb wrote between 1978 and 2002. The books include some graphic sexual passages, as well as frequent uses of a racial slur for blacks and descriptions of Vietnamese women as "monkey-faced."

Among the excerpts is a scene from the 2002 novel "Lost Soldiers," in which a man embraces his four-year-old son and places the boy's penis in his mouth.

Webb said the release of the excerpts was "a Karl Rove campaign tactic" and a "classic example of the way this campaign has worked. It's smear after smear."

He defended his fiction as "illuminative."

"It's not a sexual act," Webb told Plotkin regarding the "Lost Soldiers" excerpt. "I actually saw this happen in a slum in Bangkok when I was there as a journalist."

"The duty of a writer is to illuminate the surroundings," he added.

Coincidentally, a Cambodian woman in Las Vegas is facing sexual assault charges for performing a similar act on her young son, according to an Oct. 14 report in the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

The article quotes an office manager for the Cambodian Association of America, who described the act as a sign of respect or love.

"It's an exception," Thira Srey told the Review-Journal of the practice. According to the report, the act is usually performed by a mother or caretaker on a child who is one year old or younger. In Webb's novel, the child is four years old.

Webb criticized the Allen campaign for focusing on excerpts from his novels.

"The most important issue facing the country, he hasn't got a statement to make on it," Webb said of the Iraq war. "This country's been breaking into pieces economically ... they've got no position on that.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics....20061027c.html

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 07:42 PM

Oh and isn't this cute.

Webb on sex passage recital: 'It's smear after smear'

POSTED: 9:49 p.m. EDT, October 27, 2006

From Joshua Levs
CNN
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RICHMOND, Virginia (CNN) -- The bitter Senate campaign in Virginia turned uglier Friday when the Republican incumbent pulled up sexual passages from novels written by his Democratic opponent, who called the move baseless character assassination.
In a news release and list of quotes posted Friday on the Drudge Report Web site, Sen. George Allen accused his opponent, former Navy Secretary Jim Webb, of "demeaning women" and "dehumanizing women, men and even children" through his fiction writings. At least two of the listed passages include children in sexual situations.
Allen's campaign did not include the press release and list of passages on its Web site, where press releases are generally posted.
There was, however, a Thursday statement from Chris LaCivita, general consultant for the Allen campaign, saying some references in Webb's novels are "disturbing" and "portray women as servile, subordinate and promiscuous." (Watch as Allen stirs the pot and Webb responds -- 2:16)
Webb served in Vietnam and later led the Navy during the Reagan administration. He is running as a Democrat.
He has written six best-selling novels from 1978 to 2001, his Web site says. His writings have largely focused on war and military storylines, influenced by things he experienced.
The first quote describes a shirtless man picking up a naked boy who runs toward him. The book describes what happens after the man picks up the boy and turns him upside down. It comes from the 2001 book "Lost Soldiers."
Webb responded Friday morning on Washington Post radio. "Let me explain what that was," he said. "I actually saw this happen in a slum of Bangkok and when I was there as a journalist. A man placing his lips on his son's private parts. ... And the duty of a writer is to illuminate the surroundings.
"There is nothing that's been in any of my novels that, in my view, hasn't been either illuminating surroundings or defining a character or moving a plot," Webb said.
He added that he has "strong female characters" in his writings -- rejecting LaCivita's assertion that Webb's books portray women as "servile, subordinate and promiscuous."
The Allen campaign included several passages aimed at supporting that argument, including graphic sexual depictions and a quote from the 1981 book "A Sense of Honor," describing the character "Nurse Goodbody" as "a bedtime friend to many of the doctors in Bethesda" who had hinted "that she simply could not contain herself."
Webb told Washington Post radio that to pull excerpts from his writings "and force them on people, sort of, like pound them over the head with them," rather than having someone read the entire book "is just a classic example of the way this [Allen] campaign has worked. And you know, it's smear after smear."
"This is a Karl Rove campaign," Webb said, referring to President Bush's chief political strategist. "We have known this one was coming for quite some time."
Webb said advisers had warned him his opponent would pore over his novels to find incendiary passages. Webb accused Allen of not having "a record to run on" and attempting "character assassination."
The Allen campaign's attack came days after a Washington Post article headlined "Women's Vote Could Tip Close Contest." A Washington Post poll earlier this month found the two candidates virtually tied among female voters.
On Thursday, Webb's campaign posted a news release looking at parts of Allen's voting record with the headline, "George Allen Votes Against Victims of Sexual Assault and Domestic Violence." Allen has denied such complaints.
Allen's re-election bid has been dogged by complaints of racial insensitivity. Polls in mid-August showed him with a solid lead until he was caught on videotape referring to Webb campaign volunteer S.R. Sidarth, who is of Indian descent, as "Macaca." The term refers to a class of monkey.
Allen apologized repeatedly and said the term was something he made up. Later, two former associates told CNN that Allen used a racial epithet to describe African-Americans -- allegations Allen and other former associates denied vigorously.
Sexual scenarios in fiction novels by prominent political and governmental figures have been controversial in the past. Webb, on Washington Post radio Friday, referred to one.
"I mean we can go and read Lynne Cheney's lesbian love scenes if you want to, you know, get graphic on stuff," he said.
Lynne Cheney, wife of Vice President Dick Cheney, wrote the novel "Sisters," published in 1981, which included lesbian love scenes.
Lynne Cheney responded Friday: "Jim Webb is full of baloney. I have never written anything sexually explicit." (Watch Lynne Cheney defend her novel, criticize Webb -- 10:18)
The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee sent out a news release Friday pointing to sexual passages in books by other GOP conservatives, including Dick Cheney's former chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/27/webb.allen/

SteveTensi13 · 10-27-2006, 07:52 PM

Come on SPdirty, you know just as much as I do the "mainstream" media will completely avoid this matter for the simple fact it is a demoncat being implicated and not a Repub. Double standard doesnt even describe it, its outright complicity to affect an election by a supposed neutral entity.

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveTensi13

Come on SPdirty, you know just as much as I do the "mainstream" media will completely avoid this matter for the simple fact it is a demoncat being implicated and not a Repub. Double standard doesnt even describe it, its outright complicity to affect an election by a supposed neutral entity.

Yeah, thats old news. It'll always happen which is why I don't watch Network news. Or ESPN. I just love hearing Webb whining about getting smeared after what he did.

Spider · 10-27-2006, 08:08 PM

ummmmmmmmm Drudge lied his ass off ......... Webb wrote nothing more then Lynn Cheney did in her book about Carpet munchers called sisters

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 08:16 PM

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ummmmmmmmm Drudge lied his ass off ......... Webb wrote nothing more then Lynn Cheney did in her book about Carpet munchers called sisters

What about CNN and CNS??

Spider · 10-27-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spdirty

What about CNN and CNS??

CNN I dont trust to much , and that Damn CNS is thrown at us here in Wyoming alot , they have a way of avoiding Bad news about Bush .......... they confirmed Tony snows Bush only said stay the course 8 times , despite video saying different ..........

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

CNN I dont trust to much , and that Damn CNS is thrown at us here in Wyoming alot , they have a way of avoiding Bad news about Bush .......... they confirmed Tony snows Bush only said stay the course 8 times , despite video saying different ..........

Fine. Here. Pick one. Im sure you could get plenty of info on his novels.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...s+&btnG=Search

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-27-2006, 08:48 PM

Ha ha ha!

The Gary Studds deflection didn't work, so now they're trying another.

Too funny.

Spider · 10-27-2006, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spdirty

Fine. Here. Pick one. Im sure you could get plenty of info on his novels.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...s+&btnG=Search

So this has what to do with Pelosi and Reid again ?
Surely you are not insinuating that what Webb did is the same as what Foley did ...... like I said there is nothing in Webbs Books that isnt in Cheneys book .......
And you never heard me speak of Cheneys book , same with Webb ........ IE both books writters are non stories

Spider · 10-27-2006, 08:50 PM

oh wait , I know what your and the right are doing .....Creating a story where there isnt one to take the Focus off of Rush and what he said about Fox .....

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-27-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

So this has what to do with Pelosi and Reid again ?

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

Surely you are not insinuating that what Webb did is the same as what Foley did ......

A sure sign of desperation, eh?

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

So this has what to do with Pelosi and Reid again ?
Surely you are not insinuating that what Webb did is the same as what Foley did ...... like I said there is nothing in Webbs Books that isnt in Cheneys book .......
And you never heard me speak of Cheneys book , same with Webb ........ IE both books writters are non stories

Its nothing more than a mudslinging ploy to get all the little ninnies panties all bunched up and to the polls, it is perfectly timed before an election and Allen is running with it. It will work and will give him the momentum necessary to get reelected.

I hate that it takes away from what the focus of what the election should be, which is issues, but it works, and Allen is a pretty damn good conservative, so yay for our side.

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

oh wait , I know what your and the right are doing .....Creating a story where there isnt one to take the Focus off of Rush and what he said about Fox .....

What does Fox vs. Rush have to do with Allen vs. Webb?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-27-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spdirty

I hate that it takes away from what the focus of what the election should be, which is issues...

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I'm sure you really hate this sort of thing.

After all, you started this thread.

What more proof could we possibly need?

Spider · 10-27-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by spdirty

What does Fox vs. Rush have to do with Allen vs. Webb?

everything ........ Rush and Fox is all over the news Reps are taking a black eye , the Allen thing attempts to show that the Dems have thier demons also ..........

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

everything ........ Rush and Fox is all over the news Reps are taking a black eye , the Allen thing attempts to show that the Dems have thier demons also ..........

And its gonna WORK!!!! And Allens gonna b****slap Webb like our defense will b****slap PEYTON!

Man I can't wait for this game

Spider · 10-27-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spdirty

And its gonna WORK!!!! And Allens gonna b****slap Webb like our defense will b****slap PEYTON!

Man I can't wait for this game

we willl see about Webb ...........but you are 100% on the money about our D

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

we willl see about Webb ...........but you are 100% on the money about our D

Mike Shanahan and John Elway are Republicans

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 09:17 PM

Jake Plummer and Brian Griese are Democrats

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-27-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spdirty

Mike Shanahan and John Elway are Republicans

Nobody's perfect.

spdirty · 10-27-2006, 09:18 PM

But Cutler is also a Republican.

Spider · 10-27-2006, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spdirty

Mike Shanahan and John Elway are Republicans

too many hits , it happens

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-27-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spdirty

And its gonna WORK!!!! And Allens gonna b****slap Webb like our defense will b****slap PEYTON!

So the means - no matter how sleazy and dishonest - justify the end?

This just shows that you are afraid of a fair fight.

As usual.

10-27-2006, 07:39 PM	#1
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Allens Revenge Perfect timing too. But I think the bigger question is, when did Pelosi and Reid know about this?? I think there should be an investigation. http://drudgereport.com/flashaw.htm ALLEN'S REVENGE: EXPOSES UNDERAGE SEX SCENES IN OPPONENT'S NOVELS Thu Oct 26 2006 20:05:37 ET Sen. George Allen, R-VA, unleashed a press release late Thursday that exposed his rival's fiction writing, which includes graphic underage sex scenes. The press release, as provided by the Allen Campaign: WEBB’S WEIRD WORLD The Author’s Disturbing Writings Show a Continued Pattern of Demeaning Women · Some of Webb’s writings are very disturbing for a candidate hoping to represent the families of Virginians in the U.S. Senate. · Many excellent books about the United States military and wartime service accomplish their purposes, and even win awards, without systematically demeaning women, and without dehumanizing women, men and even children. · Webb’s novels disturbingly and consistently – indeed, almost uniformly – portray women as servile, subordinate, inept, incompetent, promiscuous, perverted, or some combination of these. In novel after novel, Webb assigns his female characters base, negative characteristics. In thousands of pages of fiction penned by Webb, there are few if any strong, admirable women or positive female role models. Why does Jim Webb refuse to portray women in a respectful, positive light, whether in his non-fiction concerning their role in the military, or in his provocative novels? How can women trust him to represent their views in the Senate when chauvinistic attitudes and sexually exploitive references run throughout his fiction and non-fiction writings? · Most Virginians and Americans would find passages such as those below shocking, especially coming from the pen of someone who seeks the privilege of serving in the United States Senate, one of the highest offices in the land: – Lost Soldiers: “A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy’s penis in his mouth.” Bantam Books, NY, 1st Edition, 2001, (hard cover), page 333. Quote is from para. 10,.Chap. 34. – Something to Die For: "Fogarty . . . watch[ed] a naked young stripper do the splits over a banana. She stood back up, her face smiling proudly and her round breasts glistening from a spotlight in the dim bar, and left the banana on the bar, cut in four equal sections by the muscles of her vagina." William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 36. Avon Books, New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 35 Quote is from para. 29, Chap. 2 “The South China Sea,”, Section 2 – A Country Such as This: "[He] could see Jawbone and Ashley Asthmatic [two guards at a Vietnamese prison camp] napping together in the grass. They faced inward, their arms entwined. It looked like they were masturbating each other. It didn't surprise him. … It was common to see men holding hands, embracing, playing with each other. Some of them [the guards] had wanted him. He could tell in those evanescent moments between his bao cao bow, the obligatory deference when a guard entered his cell, and the first word or blow that followed it… Quick, grinding voices, turgid with repressed passion. An exploratory reaching of the hand near his groin…” Doubleday & Co., Garden City, NY, 1983 (hardcover); page 396. Bluejacket Books, 2001 (Trade paperback edition), page 396 Page numbers are the same in the Naval Institute Press (paperback) edition, 1983. Quote is from fifth para, Part 5 “A Country Such As This,” Chap. 24, Section 1 – A Sense of Honor: “Nurse Goodbody, dark and voluptuous (Lenahan had forgotten her actual name, it was something long and Italian), was a bedtime friend to many of the doctors in Bethesda. She had hinted to Lenahan that she simply could not contain herself. Doctors tending to patients, she explained, aroused her. Morphine Mary (again Lenahan could not remember her exact name) was a thin, nervous drill sergeant type, a disciplinarian who did not allow her patients even to complain. Lenahan was convinced that Morphine Mary did not even sleep with her husband. She wasn’t bad looking, he mused again, staring at her thin frame. If she’d just get laid every now and then she’d mellow out and stop being such a damn witch.” (p. 164) (Lenahan brings Goodbody home with him and has sex, pp. 188-190) Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover) Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 164 Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 164 Quote is from fourth para in Part 3, “Chapter 4:1600” – Something to Die For: "[Fogarty] has been thinking of the firm, springy skin and the sweet smells of a young Filipina woman named Maria in whose bed he had spent three nights almost twenty years ago. . . . She was a deliciously bad young woman. . . . On the second night, he had brought her a box of Godiva chocolates . . . . he had awakened to find her in the bathroom, sitting on the toilet with her knees underneath her chin, eating chocolates and counting her rosary beads as she prayed." William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 32. Avon Books New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 30 Quote is from third para in Chapter 2 “South China Sea,”, Part 2 – Something to Die For: "We're on our way to becoming the world's recreational center, a nation [USA] not to be taken seriously. Where are we still the undisputed leader? Music. Movies. Fast food. Drugs. . . . the billboards fifty years from now as you come over the bridge and stop at the tollbooths outside Manhattan: A smiling beautiful naked woman, and the sign saying AMERICAN ASS IS OUR MOST IMPORTANT PRODUCT." William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 199. Avon Books New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 237 Quote is from para. 38, Chap. 13, Part 1, (five paras before Part 2). – Fields of Fire: Snake (the protagonist) sees his mother on the bed: "She looked as if she were carefully attempting to re-create a picture from some long-forgotten men's magazine . . . . She was naked underneath the robe . . . . and the robe fell loosely away, revealing her. Snake shrugged resignedly." Prentice-Hall, New York, 1978 (Hardcover, 1st edition), p. 8 Bantam Books "mass market [paperback] edition" published in Sept. 2001. p. 9. Quote is from paragraphs 18-23, Part 1 “The Best We Have”, Section 1 (NOTE: Part 1 is after the Prologue) – Fields of Fire: "He saw the invitation with every bouncing breast and curved hip. . . . He was thirteen. . . . She was fifteen . . . . In a few moments she drew him to her and he murmured in his quiet voice, 'I am still small.' 'You are large enough,' she answered. And he found he was." Prentice-Hall, New York, 1978 (Hardcover, 1st edition), pp. 211-212 Bantam Books "mass market [paperback] ed." published in Sept. 2001, pp. 280-81. Quote is from paragraphs 8-20, Part 2 “The End of the Pipeline,” Chapter 24 – A Sense of Honor: “… that is, if you knew who your sister was, Brustein, and if she’d been born with anything between her legs except an a-hole, I’d be happy to bring some class to your low-rent name by knocking the b**** up.” (p. 223) Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover) Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 223 Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 223 Quote is from 17th para in Part 4, “Chapter 7:1930” – A Sense of Honor: “You wouldn’t have believed it, Swede. She just dropped her britches and lifted up her skirt and pissed like a man. Didn’t lose a drop, either. Not a drop.” (p. 183) Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover) Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 183 Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 183 Quote is from 23rd para in Part 3, “Chapter 8: 2300” END Last edited by spdirty; 10-27-2006 at 07:45 PM..

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10-27-2006, 07:41 PM	#2
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Webb Says His Novels 'Inappropriate' for News Radio By Nathan Burchfiel CNSNews.com Staff Writer October 27, 2006 (Editor's note: Corrects quote in the 10th paragraph.) (CNSNews.com) - In an interview on Washington Post Radio Friday morning, Jim Webb, the Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Virginia, said excerpts of his novels are "a little bit inappropriate" to be read on news radio. "I don't know why you're reading that on WTOP," Webb told host Mark Plotkin. "I think it's a little bit inappropriate." Plotkin was reading an excerpt from Webb's novel "Something to Die For," in which Webb describes a female stripper performing sexual acts with a banana. "I don't think that's appropriate for you to read on WTOP," Webb said again as Plotkin finished the excerpt. (Washington Post Radio is WTOP's sister station.) The campaign of Republican Sen. George Allen on Thursday released excerpts from some of the war novels Webb wrote between 1978 and 2002. The books include some graphic sexual passages, as well as frequent uses of a racial slur for blacks and descriptions of Vietnamese women as "monkey-faced." Among the excerpts is a scene from the 2002 novel "Lost Soldiers," in which a man embraces his four-year-old son and places the boy's penis in his mouth. Webb said the release of the excerpts was "a Karl Rove campaign tactic" and a "classic example of the way this campaign has worked. It's smear after smear." He defended his fiction as "illuminative." "It's not a sexual act," Webb told Plotkin regarding the "Lost Soldiers" excerpt. "I actually saw this happen in a slum in Bangkok when I was there as a journalist." "The duty of a writer is to illuminate the surroundings," he added. Coincidentally, a Cambodian woman in Las Vegas is facing sexual assault charges for performing a similar act on her young son, according to an Oct. 14 report in the Las Vegas Review-Journal. The article quotes an office manager for the Cambodian Association of America, who described the act as a sign of respect or love. "It's an exception," Thira Srey told the Review-Journal of the practice. According to the report, the act is usually performed by a mother or caretaker on a child who is one year old or younger. In Webb's novel, the child is four years old. Webb criticized the Allen campaign for focusing on excerpts from his novels. "The most important issue facing the country, he hasn't got a statement to make on it," Webb said of the Iraq war. "This country's been breaking into pieces economically ... they've got no position on that. http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics....20061027c.html

10-27-2006, 07:42 PM	#3
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Oh and isn't this cute. Webb on sex passage recital: 'It's smear after smear' POSTED: 9:49 p.m. EDT, October 27, 2006 From Joshua Levs CNN Adjust font size: RICHMOND, Virginia (CNN) -- The bitter Senate campaign in Virginia turned uglier Friday when the Republican incumbent pulled up sexual passages from novels written by his Democratic opponent, who called the move baseless character assassination. In a news release and list of quotes posted Friday on the Drudge Report Web site, Sen. George Allen accused his opponent, former Navy Secretary Jim Webb, of "demeaning women" and "dehumanizing women, men and even children" through his fiction writings. At least two of the listed passages include children in sexual situations. Allen's campaign did not include the press release and list of passages on its Web site, where press releases are generally posted. There was, however, a Thursday statement from Chris LaCivita, general consultant for the Allen campaign, saying some references in Webb's novels are "disturbing" and "portray women as servile, subordinate and promiscuous." (Watch as Allen stirs the pot and Webb responds -- 2:16) Webb served in Vietnam and later led the Navy during the Reagan administration. He is running as a Democrat. He has written six best-selling novels from 1978 to 2001, his Web site says. His writings have largely focused on war and military storylines, influenced by things he experienced. The first quote describes a shirtless man picking up a naked boy who runs toward him. The book describes what happens after the man picks up the boy and turns him upside down. It comes from the 2001 book "Lost Soldiers." Webb responded Friday morning on Washington Post radio. "Let me explain what that was," he said. "I actually saw this happen in a slum of Bangkok and when I was there as a journalist. A man placing his lips on his son's private parts. ... And the duty of a writer is to illuminate the surroundings. "There is nothing that's been in any of my novels that, in my view, hasn't been either illuminating surroundings or defining a character or moving a plot," Webb said. He added that he has "strong female characters" in his writings -- rejecting LaCivita's assertion that Webb's books portray women as "servile, subordinate and promiscuous." The Allen campaign included several passages aimed at supporting that argument, including graphic sexual depictions and a quote from the 1981 book "A Sense of Honor," describing the character "Nurse Goodbody" as "a bedtime friend to many of the doctors in Bethesda" who had hinted "that she simply could not contain herself." Webb told Washington Post radio that to pull excerpts from his writings "and force them on people, sort of, like pound them over the head with them," rather than having someone read the entire book "is just a classic example of the way this [Allen] campaign has worked. And you know, it's smear after smear." "This is a Karl Rove campaign," Webb said, referring to President Bush's chief political strategist. "We have known this one was coming for quite some time." Webb said advisers had warned him his opponent would pore over his novels to find incendiary passages. Webb accused Allen of not having "a record to run on" and attempting "character assassination." The Allen campaign's attack came days after a Washington Post article headlined "Women's Vote Could Tip Close Contest." A Washington Post poll earlier this month found the two candidates virtually tied among female voters. On Thursday, Webb's campaign posted a news release looking at parts of Allen's voting record with the headline, "George Allen Votes Against Victims of Sexual Assault and Domestic Violence." Allen has denied such complaints. Allen's re-election bid has been dogged by complaints of racial insensitivity. Polls in mid-August showed him with a solid lead until he was caught on videotape referring to Webb campaign volunteer S.R. Sidarth, who is of Indian descent, as "Macaca." The term refers to a class of monkey. Allen apologized repeatedly and said the term was something he made up. Later, two former associates told CNN that Allen used a racial epithet to describe African-Americans -- allegations Allen and other former associates denied vigorously. Sexual scenarios in fiction novels by prominent political and governmental figures have been controversial in the past. Webb, on Washington Post radio Friday, referred to one. "I mean we can go and read Lynne Cheney's lesbian love scenes if you want to, you know, get graphic on stuff," he said. Lynne Cheney, wife of Vice President Dick Cheney, wrote the novel "Sisters," published in 1981, which included lesbian love scenes. Lynne Cheney responded Friday: "Jim Webb is full of baloney. I have never written anything sexually explicit." (Watch Lynne Cheney defend her novel, criticize Webb -- 10:18) The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee sent out a news release Friday pointing to sexual passages in books by other GOP conservatives, including Dick Cheney's former chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/27/webb.allen/

10-27-2006, 07:52 PM	#4
SteveTensi13 GIVE ME SOME MORE ORANGE OLD SCHOOL BRONCO Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Helmand province, Afghanistan Posts: 1,830 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandon Stokley	Come on SPdirty, you know just as much as I do the "mainstream" media will completely avoid this matter for the simple fact it is a demoncat being implicated and not a Repub. Double standard doesnt even describe it, its outright complicity to affect an election by a supposed neutral entity.

10-27-2006, 08:08 PM	#6
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	ummmmmmmmm Drudge lied his ass off ......... Webb wrote nothing more then Lynn Cheney did in her book about Carpet munchers called sisters

10-27-2006, 08:48 PM	#10
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Ha ha ha! The Gary Studds deflection didn't work, so now they're trying another. Too funny.

10-27-2006, 08:50 PM	#12
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	oh wait , I know what your and the right are doing .....Creating a story where there isnt one to take the Focus off of Rush and what he said about Fox .....

10-27-2006, 09:17 PM	#21
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Jake Plummer and Brian Griese are Democrats

10-27-2006, 09:18 PM	#23
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	But Cutler is also a Republican.