Is Bush trying to push Iran into War - The Orange Mane

baja · 10-25-2006, 12:52 PM

US naval war games off the Iranian coastline: A provocation which could lead to War?

by Michel Chossudovsky

October 24, 2006
GlobalResearch.ca

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There is a massive concentration of US naval power in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. Three US naval strike groups off the Iranian coastline are deployed: USS Enterprise, USS Eisenhower and USS Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group.

The naval strike groups have been assigned to fighting the "global war on terrorism."

Tehran considers the US war games to be conducted in the Persian Gulf, off the Iranian coastline as a provocation, which is intended to trigger a potential crisis and a situation of direct confrontation between US and Iranian naval forces in the Persian Gulf:

"Reports say the US-led naval exercises based near Bahrain will practise intercepting and searching ships carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles.

Iran's official news agency IRNA quoted an unnamed foreign ministry official as describing the military manoeuvres as dangerous and suspicious.
Reports say the US-led naval exercises based near Bahrain will practise intercepting and searching ships carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles.

The Iranian foreign ministry official said the US-led exercises were not in line with the security and stability of the region. Instead, they are aimed at fomenting crises, he said." (quoted in BBC, 23 October 2006)

USS Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG 5) to arrive in Arabian Sea

The USS Boxer (LHD 4), --which is the flagship for the Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG 5)-- which left Singapore on October 16, is scheduled to join the three naval strikes groups. ESG 5 is comprised of USS Boxer, Bunker Hill, USS Dubuque (LPD 8), USS Comstock (LSD 45), USS Benfold (DDG 65), and USS Howard (DDG 83). ESG 5 also includes PHIBRON 5, the 15th MEU, Coast Guard Cutter Midgett (WHEC 726).

“We are about to enter a part of the world that can be very dangerous,” said Chief Aviation Ordnanceman (AW/SW) Jacques Beaver, Boxer’s flight deck ordnance chief. “We must be flexible and prepared to defend ourselves from any threats.”

Boxer has been preparing for the weapons upload for two months by completing required maintenance and electronic pre-checks. Checks ensure that the ship’s missile and launching systems are up to standard and safe to load with live ordnance.

“It has taken a lot of hard work for our people to get this done,” said Chief Fire Controlman (SW) William Lewis, combat systems, fire control division’s leading chief petty officer. “You cannot measure the importance of having these defenses guarding the lives of the Sailors and Marines in this strike group.”

BOXESG is comprised of USS Boxer (LHD 4), USS Bunker Hill (CG 52), USS Dubuque (LPD 8), USS Comstock (LSD 45), USS Benfold (DDG 65) and USS Howard (DDG 83). The strike group also includes Amphibious Squadron 5, the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit, Coast Guard Cutter Midgett (WHEC 726) and Canadian Frigate HMCS Ottawa (FFH 341).

BOXESG is currently conducting operations in support of the global war on terrorism while transiting to the Arabian
Gulf." (http://www.c7f.navy.mil/news/2006/october/3.htm)

Spider · 10-25-2006, 01:02 PM

I think it is more of a show of might ( at least I hope that is what it is ).Kinda like the Look you get before you wife puts a frying pan up side your head ..........

baja · 10-25-2006, 01:13 PM

Just like people countries react differently to the threat of a frying pan up side the head. Usually not a great way to negotiate anything

Spider · 10-25-2006, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja fan

Just like people countries react differently to the threat of a frying pan up side the head. Usually not a great way to negotiate anything

This is Bush we are talking about ........a man that choked on a pretzel ........ lets dont expect to much from him

baja · 10-25-2006, 01:24 PM

http://www.hnn.us/articles/31051.html

El Guapo · 10-25-2006, 01:32 PM

definitely just flexing the muscle.

baja · 10-25-2006, 01:34 PM

Question is which muscle?

Rohirrim · 10-25-2006, 01:40 PM

Maybe that's why Rove is not in the least bit worried about this election? Maybe he already knows it's not going to take place? Here's a scenario: The CIA somehow coerces some lunatic fundamentalist Iranian to fire a missile at U.S. ships from the coast of Iran. U.S. ships return fire. Iran opens up from its coastal defenses. Bush suckers the boot lappers in Congress to once again give him carte blanche by declaring war in Iran. Bush, using plenary powers given him by Congress over the last few months decides to declare martial law and postpone all elections.

I could see that. It's what Orwell recommended.

baja · 10-25-2006, 01:43 PM

Shiit I an flying on Nov. 7th

alkemical · 10-25-2006, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Maybe that's why Rove is not in the least bit worried about this election? Maybe he already knows it's not going to take place? Here's a scenario: The CIA somehow coerces some lunatic fundamentalist Iranian to fire a missile at U.S. ships from the coast of Iran. U.S. ships return fire. Iran opens up from its coastal defenses. Bush suckers the boot lappers in Congress to once again give him carte blanche by declaring war in Iran. Bush, using plenary powers given him by Congress over the last few months decides to declare martial law and postpone all elections.

I could see that. It's what Orwell recommended.

But Ro, i need to be safe and warm. how can the gov't, who obviously loves me want to harm me? Why would they lie to me, and why is it so bad if the only choices i have are A=B?

Rohirrim · 10-25-2006, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

But Ro, i need to be safe and warm. how can the gov't, who obviously loves me want to harm me? Why would they lie to me, and why is it so bad if the only choices i have are A=B?

You need a girlfriend... or a dog.

alkemical · 10-25-2006, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

You need a girlfriend... or a dog.

I have a dog - but finding a woman who can put with me - is a challenge only zues could have made.

baja · 10-25-2006, 02:02 PM

There's your answer get a women that is a dog.

alkemical · 10-25-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja fan

There's your answer get a women that is a dog.

You know baja - you are on to something there

baja · 10-25-2006, 02:08 PM

"Never make a Pretty Woman your Wife"

alkemical · 10-25-2006, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baja fan

"Never make a Pretty Woman your Wife"

Aren't you married to a beautiful senora?

baja · 10-25-2006, 02:23 PM

Ya but I had her teeth pulled so she would be shy

alkemical · 10-25-2006, 02:42 PM

Rohirrim · 10-25-2006, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

I have a dog - but finding a woman who can put with me - is a challenge only zues could have made.

Zeus knew how to turn himself into a swan. You'll have to buy them drinks.

10-25-2006, 12:52 PM	#1
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Is Bush trying to push Iran into War US naval war games off the Iranian coastline: A provocation which could lead to War? by Michel Chossudovsky October 24, 2006 GlobalResearch.ca Email this article to a friend Print this article There is a massive concentration of US naval power in the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. Three US naval strike groups off the Iranian coastline are deployed: USS Enterprise, USS Eisenhower and USS Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group. The naval strike groups have been assigned to fighting the "global war on terrorism." Tehran considers the US war games to be conducted in the Persian Gulf, off the Iranian coastline as a provocation, which is intended to trigger a potential crisis and a situation of direct confrontation between US and Iranian naval forces in the Persian Gulf: "Reports say the US-led naval exercises based near Bahrain will practise intercepting and searching ships carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles. Iran's official news agency IRNA quoted an unnamed foreign ministry official as describing the military manoeuvres as dangerous and suspicious. Reports say the US-led naval exercises based near Bahrain will practise intercepting and searching ships carrying weapons of mass destruction and missiles. The Iranian foreign ministry official said the US-led exercises were not in line with the security and stability of the region. Instead, they are aimed at fomenting crises, he said." (quoted in BBC, 23 October 2006) USS Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG 5) to arrive in Arabian Sea The USS Boxer (LHD 4), --which is the flagship for the Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG 5)-- which left Singapore on October 16, is scheduled to join the three naval strikes groups. ESG 5 is comprised of USS Boxer, Bunker Hill, USS Dubuque (LPD 8), USS Comstock (LSD 45), USS Benfold (DDG 65), and USS Howard (DDG 83). ESG 5 also includes PHIBRON 5, the 15th MEU, Coast Guard Cutter Midgett (WHEC 726). “We are about to enter a part of the world that can be very dangerous,” said Chief Aviation Ordnanceman (AW/SW) Jacques Beaver, Boxer’s flight deck ordnance chief. “We must be flexible and prepared to defend ourselves from any threats.” Boxer has been preparing for the weapons upload for two months by completing required maintenance and electronic pre-checks. Checks ensure that the ship’s missile and launching systems are up to standard and safe to load with live ordnance. “It has taken a lot of hard work for our people to get this done,” said Chief Fire Controlman (SW) William Lewis, combat systems, fire control division’s leading chief petty officer. “You cannot measure the importance of having these defenses guarding the lives of the Sailors and Marines in this strike group.” BOXESG is comprised of USS Boxer (LHD 4), USS Bunker Hill (CG 52), USS Dubuque (LPD 8), USS Comstock (LSD 45), USS Benfold (DDG 65) and USS Howard (DDG 83). The strike group also includes Amphibious Squadron 5, the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit, Coast Guard Cutter Midgett (WHEC 726) and Canadian Frigate HMCS Ottawa (FFH 341). BOXESG is currently conducting operations in support of the global war on terrorism while transiting to the Arabian Gulf." (http://www.c7f.navy.mil/news/2006/october/3.htm)

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10-25-2006, 01:02 PM	#2
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I think it is more of a show of might ( at least I hope that is what it is ).Kinda like the Look you get before you wife puts a frying pan up side your head ..........

10-25-2006, 01:13 PM	#3
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Just like people countries react differently to the threat of a frying pan up side the head. Usually not a great way to negotiate anything

10-25-2006, 01:24 PM	#5
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	http://www.hnn.us/articles/31051.html

10-25-2006, 01:32 PM	#6
El Guapo aka mav_7. who? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: VA (heart is in TX) Posts: 3,445	definitely just flexing the muscle.

10-25-2006, 01:34 PM	#7
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Question is which muscle?

10-25-2006, 01:40 PM	#8
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,842	Maybe that's why Rove is not in the least bit worried about this election? Maybe he already knows it's not going to take place? Here's a scenario: The CIA somehow coerces some lunatic fundamentalist Iranian to fire a missile at U.S. ships from the coast of Iran. U.S. ships return fire. Iran opens up from its coastal defenses. Bush suckers the boot lappers in Congress to once again give him carte blanche by declaring war in Iran. Bush, using plenary powers given him by Congress over the last few months decides to declare martial law and postpone all elections. I could see that. It's what Orwell recommended.

10-25-2006, 01:43 PM	#9
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Shiit I an flying on Nov. 7th

10-25-2006, 02:02 PM	#13
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	There's your answer get a women that is a dog.

10-25-2006, 02:08 PM	#15
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	"Never make a Pretty Woman your Wife"

10-25-2006, 02:23 PM	#17
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Ya but I had her teeth pulled so she would be shy