Dear voters: We're getting out of Iraq..honest!!

[enjolras]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

Wow.. the GOP is really desperate. They're even working on 'cutting and running' in Iraq at this point (not that I beleive a word of it).

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by enjolras

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

Wow.. the GOP is really desperate. They're even working on 'cutting and running' in Iraq at this point (not that I beleive a word of it).

Ha ha ha!

Just a few weeks ago their strategy was to attack the Democrats for wanting to "cut and run."

Talk about flip-flopping.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by enjolras

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

Wow.. the GOP is really desperate. They're even working on 'cutting and running' in Iraq at this point (not that I beleive a word of it).

The Bush administration is in disarray, apparently.

Bush administration, Oct, 2006... "It's never been a stay-the-course strategy"

"If we leave the streets of Baghdad before the job is done, we will have to face the terrorists in our own cities. We will stay the course, we will help this young Iraqi democracy succeed, and victory in Iraq will be a major ideological triumph in the struggle of the 21st century.".....George Bush, Aug 30th/2006

Tony Snow, Aug, 2006..."You also cannot be a president in a wartime and not realize that you've got to stay the course."

http://tinyurl.com/y23jng

[Bronco_Beerslug]

"Listen, we've never been stay the course" George Bush Oct, 2006.

[defenseman]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

The Bush administration is in disarray, apparently.







http://tinyurl.com/y23jng

Agreed. They are committing some major tactical errors presently that probably will cost them both the house and the senate. My fear? Nancy pelosi the the speaker of the house, oh my god, talk about scary stuff, she is the poster child for it. Do me a favor, MAKE SURE, if the dems take the two, the DEMS are smart enough to ensure she doesn't become the speaker of the house. She is scary to say the least. Way too much San Fran influence from her to be a safe speaker......dman

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by defenseman

Agreed. They are committing some major tactical errors presently that probably will cost them both the house and the senate. My fear? Nancy pelosi the the speaker of the house, oh my god, talk about scary stuff, she is the poster child for it. Do me a favor, MAKE SURE, if the dems take the two, the DEMS are smart enough to ensure she doesn't become the speaker of the house. She is scary to say the least. Way too much San Fran influence from her to be a safe speaker......dman

Maybe you could point out exactly what scares you about her politics?

The post below is from another board whose author is 100% right wing conservative.

Well, pigs actually do fly. I watched her carefully on '60 minutes' last night and I was favorably impressed with her. Since she will be two heartbeats from the presidency she seemed tough enough to do the job. All-in-all, I think she is up to the job. I just hope she leaves the loony San Francisco politics there should she assume the presidency.

[defenseman]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Maybe you could point out exactly what scares you about her politics?

The post below is from another board whose author is 100% right wing conservative.

loony San Fran politics about sums it up. ANYTHING political from San Francisco, ESPECIALLY a politician, is scary for the most part. In short , she is WAY over the top, I could not even fathom her assuming the duties as POUS, scary indeed. That in itself, is a reason NOT to make her speaker of the house...dman

[defenseman]

I suggest you do homework on Pelosi in the following arenas:

1) Trips funded by private groups for politicians. you'll find pelosi pretty much guilty along the same lines as Tom Delay to a degree.

2) Eminnent Domain. Corporate takeovers of land of our private citizens. She has no problem with this.

That's just for starters. She is scary and flops on subjects enough to be very, very hypocritical. In her defense, nearly 90% of the politicians in DC have been hypocritical. However, it appears to me anyway, her best work is done with a tophat and cane and a catchie tune...dman

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by defenseman

loony San Fran politics about sums it up. ANYTHING political from San Francisco, ESPECIALLY a politician, is scary for the most part. In short , she is WAY over the top, I could not even fathom her assuming the duties as POUS, scary indeed. That in itself, is a reason NOT to make her speaker of the house...dman

You better start getting use to a LOT of new things.

[Rohirrim]

They're right. I think in 12 to 18 months, the people of Iraq will be throwing flowers at us.

[W*GS]

A strange quote from Pelosi:

"The gavel of the speaker of the House is in the hands of special interests, and now it will be in the hands of America's children."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...home-headlines

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by W*GS

A strange quote from Pelosi:

"The gavel of the speaker of the House is in the hands of special interests, and now it will be in the hands of America's children."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...home-headlines

The entire quote...

"I think the fact that I am a woman will raise expectations in terms of more hope in government, and I will not disappoint," she says.

"The gavel of the speaker of the House is in the hands of special interests, and now it will be in the hands of America's children. I don't mean to imply my male colleagues will have any less integrity…. But I don't know that a man can say that as easily as a woman can."

Somewhat strange, I guess.

[defenseman]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

You better start getting use to a LOT of new things.

I wouldn't be counting chickens quite yet. The election is far from over, and some of the states are virtual dead heats vice the dem victory they are claiming. Leaning on polls, doesn't get one elected. In any case, I'd be stowing the celebratory devices till all is said and done...dman

*You just never know how it's going to turn out sometimes, I'd be waiting till the votes are in.

[defenseman]

Originally Posted by W*GS

A strange quote from Pelosi:

"The gavel of the speaker of the House is in the hands of special interests, and now it will be in the hands of America's children."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...home-headlines

hypocritical at the minumum, she is scary ...dman

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by defenseman

hypocritical at the minumum, she is scary ...dman

Explain why it's hypocritical, did you read the entire quote?

As far as being scary, the people who voted for Bush TWICE are the real scary people.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

As far as being scary, the people who voted for Bush TWICE are the real scary people.

I feel the same way about the folks who voted for Clinton TWICE.

[bendog]

Originally Posted by W*GS

I feel the same way about the folks who voted for Clinton TWICE.

I dunno. I voted for him the second time, and would've a third. I like moderate goper econ policies. welfare refrom, balanced budgets, more teachers, more cops, student aid ... that radical stuff.

But back to the thread, if this wasn't sad it'd be funny.

Bush remains steadfast about remaining in Iraq, they say, but constantly shifts tactics and methods in response to an adjusting enemy. "What you have is not 'stay the course' but in fact a study in constant motion by the administration," Snow said yesterday.

Political rhetoric, of course, is often in constant motion as well. But with midterm elections two weeks away, the Bush team is searching for a formula to address public opposition to the war, struggling to appear consistent and flexible at the same time. That was underscored by the reaction to a New York Times report that the administration is drafting a timetable for the Iraqi government to disarm militias and assume a larger security role. The White House initially called the story "inaccurate." But then White House counselor Dan Bartlett went on CNN yesterday morning to call it "a little bit overwritten" because in fact it was something the administration had been doing for months.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...102301053.html
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So it's taken them 'months' to come up with a timetable, that isn't finished btw, to disband militias and rid the police of death squads.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by W*GS

A strange quote from Pelosi:

"The gavel of the speaker of the House is in the hands of special interests, and now it will be in the hands of America's children."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...home-headlines

same ole same hey W*GS , little bit here and there ....... Perhaps if Polosi were to do some kid like Nugent did she would get your vote hey ................

[Spider]

Originally Posted by W*GS

I feel the same way about the folks who voted for Clinton TWICE.

.......... as if you realy know what you feel

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by bendog

I dunno. I voted for him the second time, and would've a third. I like moderate goper econ policies. welfare refrom, balanced budgets, more teachers, more cops, student aid ... that radical stuff.

You also like doing nothing against our enemies, sending children back to tyrannies, burning children to death, no reform of education, no reform of entitlement programs, the Justice Department extorting billions via de facto legislation, all that other stuff we got with Clinton...

I'll pass - on both Clinton and Bush.

[bendog]

Originally Posted by W*GS

You also like doing nothing against our enemies, sending children back to tyrannies, burning children to death, no reform of education, no reform of entitlement programs, the Justice Department extorting billions via de facto legislation, all that other stuff we got with Clinton...

I'll pass - on both Clinton and Bush.

Well, wags, in the real world it has to be one or the other. WJC was not all he could have been, but he wasn't anti-wage, anti-middle class and a neo-con. He did get a balanced budget, more money for cops and education, and he DID help the working poor.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by bendog

Well, wags, in the real world it has to be one or the other.

Only if you accept the evil of two lessers.

You folks who support the Dems and the GOP then complain about the scumbags they put up for office are making life hell for the rest of us. Explore other options for a change.

Originally Posted by bendog

WJC was not all he could have been, but he wasn't anti-wage, anti-middle class and a neo-con.

He was anti-rights, anti-freedom, and anti-liberty.

I forgot to mention the Defense of Marriage Act and the Communications Decency Act. And he also prosecuted the Drug War to its fullest.

Originally Posted by bendog

He did get a balanced budget, more money for cops and education, and he DID help the working poor.

The first and last had more to do with short-sighted lucky happenstance (which we're paying for now with the bursting of the equity and housing bubbles Clinton allowed to build) than it did his policies.

[loborugger]

I was listening to the radio on the way home from work this afternoon where they played an interview with a rep from a polling firm. He said that while voters are unenthusiased with the GOP, they arent embracing the Dems, and instead are luke warm about the left. I feel that way myself.

On the same note, listening to the same radio on the same stretch of road last week, another political analyst noted that the Dems were working on a plan for Iraq, and were close to something.

WTF. They are working on a plan? They want us to vote for them when they are working on a plan? Have they not been working on this plan for 2 years now - since the 2004 prez election? They have come up with nothing in 2 years?

So, for the Dem apologists on here, tell me this. If I vote Dem this fall, what am I voting for? Specifically, I am talking about Iraq. Cuz, to be honest, I dont have a clue. They wont cut and run... they wont stay the course. What the hell else is there? Seems to me their whole platform is "we arent him." in regards to Bush. And just as that strategy wont work often or well when getting a date, I dont think it will fire up the American voters, either.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

As far as being scary, the people who voted for Bush TWICE are the real scary people.

Amen, brother!

[Spider]

Originally Posted by loborugger

I was listening to the radio on the way home from work this afternoon where they played an interview with a rep from a polling firm. He said that while voters are unenthusiased with the GOP, they arent embracing the Dems, and instead are luke warm about the left. I feel that way myself.

On the same note, listening to the same radio on the same stretch of road last week, another political analyst noted that the Dems were working on a plan for Iraq, and were close to something.

WTF. They are working on a plan? They want us to vote for them when they are working on a plan? Have they not been working on this plan for 2 years now - since the 2004 prez election? They have come up with nothing in 2 years?

So, for the Dem apologists on here, tell me this. If I vote Dem this fall, what am I voting for? Specifically, I am talking about Iraq. Cuz, to be honest, I dont have a clue. They wont cut and run... they wont stay the course. What the hell else is there? Seems to me their whole platform is "we arent him." in regards to Bush. And just as that strategy wont work often or well when getting a date, I dont think it will fire up the American voters, either.

not to be a shít here , but I could careless how you vote , if you are only going ot vote the war in Iraq , then you realy shouldnt vote , no single issue should make your vote .........
But when you vote dem , you vote for the middle class , you want an increase in wages , you are pro labor , you are for womens choice ( after all if you cant trust the woman with a decision to keep or abort her baby , you should be able to trust her to raise the kids )
and several enviormental issues , I wont kiss your áss , I will tell you how it is , if you dont understand the basic difference in rep or Dem , you realy shouldnt be voting ............