General Hockey Thread v3.0

[Clockwork Orange]

Chris Gratton returns for his third tour of duty with the Lightning, traded from the Panthers for a 2nd round pick.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=210735&hubname=nhl

That's a steal for the Panthers.

[Jori]

Originally Posted by killericon

Calgary Flames to hire Mike Keenan as new Head Coach.

Playfair to remain on staff.

Can't imagine Huselius is too thrilled.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Jori

Can't imagine Huselius is too thrilled.

Can't imagine Flames fans are either.

[Jori]

Award winners announced
All-Star Teams
All-Rookie Team

Sakic Action Figure:

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=...ticleid=318372

[Clockwork Orange]

The awards have been handed out.

Hart Trophy
Winner: Sidney Crosby (he also won the Pearson & Art Ross)

Crosby 1,225 (91)
Luongo 801 (25)
Brodeur 763 (21)
Lecavalier 362 (5)
Thornton 230
Lidstrom 53 (1)
Niedermayer 45
Sakic 44
Selanne 36
Hossa 35

Norris Trophy
Winner: Nicklas Lidstrom

Lidstrom 1,217 (87)
Niedermayer 1,024 (46)
Pronger 608 (6)
Boyle 219 (1)
Timonen 144
Phaneuf 98
Gonchar 85
Souray 67
Zubov 42
Campbell 42

Vezina Trophy
Winner: Martin Brodeur

Brodeur 122 (16)
Luongo 116 (14)
Kiprusoff 7
Lundqvist 7
Hasek 5
Backstrom 4
Miller 4
DiPietro 2
Giguere 2
Mason 1

Adams Trophy
Winner: Alain Vigneault

Vigneault 134
Ruff 126
Therrien 91
Trotz 89
Nolan 47
Babcock 40
Lemaire 32
Carlyle 20
Tippett 17
Murray 15

Calder Trophy
Winner: Evgeni Malkin

Malkin 1,357 points (120 first-place votes)
Stastny 965 points (16)
Staal 565 (6)
Kopitar 417
Penner 107
Vlasic 96 (1)
Carle 95
Wolski 30
Radulov 23
Zajac 13

(whoever gave a 1st place vote to Vlasic should have their vote taken away)

Selke Trophy
Winner: Rod Brind'Amour

Brind`Amour 420 pts (16-21-7-23-9)
Sam Pahlsson 405 (24-8-18-4-7)
Jay Pandolfo 311 (16-10-10-7-10)

1st team All-Stars:
LW Alexander Ovechkin
C Sidney Crosby
RW Dany Heatley
D Scott Niedermayer
D Nicklas Lidstrom
G Martin Brodeur

2nd team
LW Thomas Vanek
C Vincent Lecavalier
RW Martin St. Louis
D Chris Pronger
D Dan Boyle (Huh? Really?)
G Roberto Luongo

All-Rookie Team
F Evgeni Malkin
F Paul Stastny
F Jordan Staal
D Matt Carle
D Marc-Edward Vlasic

Pavel Datsyuk wins the Lady Byng (don't disrespect the Byng!)
Saku Koivu wins the King Clancy
Phil Kessel wins the Masterson

[24champ]

Must be nice to be raking in dough and the ladies vinny and Doan.

[24champ]

Agent believes Theodore will return

Thursday, Jun 14, 2007 3:07 pm EDT
Jose Theodore

Getty Images

Colorado Avalanche goalie Jose Theodore is due to make $6 million next season, a fair amount of cash for a guy who spent the better part of last season backing up Peter Budaj.

There has been speculation the Avs might buy out the final year of Theodore's contract, but the goalie's agent says he expects his client to return to Colorado in 2007-08.

Source: Rocky Mountain News


http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/rumors/p...?urn=nhl,36544

[Clockwork Orange]

It does not suck to be Shane Doan.

[Mtbrncofn]

I think Luongo got shafted on the Vezina. I'm so sick of Marty winning it. I knew it would go to him though.

Joe got the Lady Byng stolen out from under him by Datsuck?! Geez. No respect.

Thanks for trying to ruin the day with that ****ty news article you posted, 24cb. You suck.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by Mtbrncofn

I think Luongo got shafted on the Vezina. I'm so sick of Marty winning it. I knew it would go to him though.

Joe got the Lady Byng stolen out from under him by Datsuck?! Geez. No respect.

Thanks for trying to ruin the day with that ****ty news article you posted, 24cb. You suck.

Payback for Statsny going ahead of Kopitar in the voting...

[Mtbrncofn]

I think you better blame that on ol Anze.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Mtbrncofn

I think you better blame that on ol Anze.

Jordan Staal, too.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Jordan Staal, too.

[alkemical]

Even though Malkin had a tremendous year - I really enjoyed Staal's year more for the Pens.

[bronco militia]

Originally Posted by Jori

Award winners announced
All-Star Teams
All-Rookie Team

Sakic Action Figure:

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=...ticleid=318372

[Killericon]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Can't imagine Flames fans are either.

Keenan > Playfair. That's all that matters.

Plus, Keenan gave Sutter his first job, and the big knock on Keenan is he's hard to get long with.

I'm happy. Everyone I've talked to about it around here is happy...but primarily because Playfair's no longer in charge.

[Pendejo]

Originally Posted by bronco militia

Sakic smash!!!!

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by killericon

Keenan > Playfair. That's all that matters.

Plus, Keenan gave Sutter his first job, and the big knock on Keenan is he's hard to get long with.

I'm happy. Everyone I've talked to about it around here is happy...but primarily because Playfair's no longer in charge.

Yeah, you're happy right now, seemingly so are most when Keenan is first hired for some reason. Get back to me a year from now when Flames fans will be calling for Keenan's head on a platter en masse. He doesn't bounce from job to job like the NHL's version of Larry Brown for no reason.

That guy has to have made a fortune on buy outs from being fired. I'm surprised that he's been able to milk that one Stanley Cup he won 13 years ago into so many jobs that ended miserably, yet teams keep on hiring him.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Yeah, you're happy right now, seemingly so are most when Keenan is first hired for some reason. Get back to me a year from now when Flames fans will be calling for Keenan's head on a platter en masse. He doesn't bounce from job to job like the NHL's version of Larry Brown for no reason.

That guy has to have made a fortune on buy outs from being fired. I'm surprised that he's been able to milk that one Stanley Cup he won 13 years ago into so many jobs that ended miserably, yet teams keep on hiring him.

I disagree, Keenan can be a good coach when put in the right situation. He led the Flyers to the Cup finals in 87' and took the Chicago Blackhawks to the 92' Finals. He made some stupid moves when he was with the Blues, Vancouver, Boston. I think the Flames have the pieces to be successful and "Iron Mike" should have the pieces he needs. I think the player that will benefit the most is Phaneuf, a young kid with a wild style that needs to be straightened out.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by 24champbailey

I disagree, Keenan can be a good coach when put in the right situation. He led the Flyers to the Cup finals in 87' and took the Chicago Blackhawks to the 92' Finals. He made some stupid moves when he was with the Blues, Vancouver, Boston. I think the Flames have the pieces to be successful and "Iron Mike" should have the pieces he needs. I think the player that will benefit the most is Phaneuf, a young kid with a wild style that needs to be straightened out.

Since he won his one and only Stanley Cup in 1994, he's led the myriad of teams he's coached to a grand total of 2 playoff appearances and neither of those went further than the 2nd round. I don't care what he did 20, 15 or 13 years ago, he's been a miserable failure everywhere he's been for over a decade.

What the Flames have are two superstars (Iginla & Kipper) who will be UFA's one year from now. With Keenan's penchant for alienating players and playing musical goaltenders, Sutter had better be very conscious of what's going on between his coach and his top players, as they might be reluctant to re-sign if Keenan's going to be there for the forseeable future.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Since he won his one and only Stanley Cup in 1994, he's led the myriad of teams he's coached to a grand total of 2 playoff appearances and neither of those went further than the 2nd round. I don't care what he did 20, 15 or 13 years ago, he's been a miserable failure everywhere he's been for over a decade.

I just find this hilarious...not even gonna go there.

What the Flames have are two superstars (Iginla & Kipper) who will be UFA's one year from now. With Keenan's penchant for alienating players and playing musical goaltenders, Sutter had better be very conscious of what's going on between his coach and his top players, as they might be reluctant to re-sign if Keenan's going to be there for the forseeable future.

It's all speculation, as long as he wins in Calgary I don't see a problem there.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by 24champbailey

I just find this hilarious...not even gonna go there.

I find your straining to defend a loser like Keenan hilarious, too. So I guess we're even

Probably best for you that you don't go there considering that you have nothing to come back with.

It's all speculation, as long as he wins in Calgary I don't see a problem there.

He hasn't won anywhere since 1994 and he's taking over a team that had to battle all the way to the second to last game in order to be the 8th seed.

Though, he was hired by his buddy Sutter, so he'll probably get a longer leash than he's had in the past.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I find your straining to defend a loser like Keenan hilarious, too. So I guess we're even

Probably best for you that you don't go there considering that you have nothing to come back with.

Well I just found it funny that an Avalanche fan is saying it is a stupid hire because he hasn't had any playoff success in recent years...yet your team hires Joel Chokeville who is notorious for taking a crap in the playoffs.

He hasn't won anywhere since 1994 and he's taking over a team that had to battle all the way to the second to last game in order to be the 8th seed.

Though, he was hired by his buddy Sutter, so he'll probably get a longer leash than he's had in the past.

He is taking over a team that has a solid scorer, goaltender, defenseman and they almost knocked off the top seed in the playoffs. Just needs to add a couple pieces and by the way Calgary isn't as bad as you make them out to be. Keenan is familiar with Sutter so that helps. It's all speculation as to what will happen with Keenan and Calgary, he is in a better situation than in the past is all I am saying.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by 24champbailey

Well I just found it funny that an Avalanche fan is saying it is a stupid hire because he hasn't had any playoff success in recent years...yet your team hires Joel Chokeville who is notorious for taking a crap in the playoffs.

I'm not exactly what you'd call a big Quenneville fan, but I'd much rather he be in charge of my favorite team than Keenan. I'm not just talking about a lack of playoff success, Keenan has a sub .500 regular season record in that timeframe as well.

13 years of poor results is anything but "recent." Especially when you're talking about a whopping two playoff appearances in that time frame.

He is taking over a team that has a solid scorer, goaltender, defenseman and they almost knocked off the top seed in the playoffs. Just needs to add a couple pieces and by the way Calgary isn't as bad as you make them out to be. Keenan is familiar with Sutter so that helps. It's all speculation as to what will happen with Keenan and Calgary, he is in a better situation than in the past is all I am saying.

I never said Calgary was bad, but they're not the elite team you're portraying them to be. Their trip to the Finals was three years ago and they've been trending downward since. Coaching may be one of the issues that's caused it, but Mike Keenan is one of the last people I'd think they'd want leading their team since his antiquated style and abrasive personality have made him a failure in his last four jobs.

I'm curious to see how the hyper-sensitive Alex Tanguay takes to Keenan's rough style. He didn't respond well to the tough love of Bob Hartley at all when he was here.

[Clockwork Orange]

Anyway, enough about Mad Mike. The draft is a week away and free agency a little over two weeks away.

The bastion of credibility known as Eklund is claiming that Scott Niedermayer may very well retire. Take it with a mine of salt.