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Jori · 10-22-2006, 10:11 PM

If Sakic was retiring after this season, adding a guy like Lecavalier would make sense. Certanly can't rule out the possibility of Colorado making a call, but I personally have soured on him as a player.

Then again, it's a Larry Brooks article so you have to question his availability.

Clockwork Orange · 10-22-2006, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jori

If Sakic was retiring after this season, adding a guy like Lecavalier would make sense. Certanly can't rule out the possibility of Colorado making a call, but I personally have soured on him as a player.

Then again, it's a Larry Brooks article so you have to question his availability.

Ahh, missed the Larry Brooks part. He must have been throwing darts and one landed on Lecavalier. That seems to be the SOP of rumor mongoring for NHL writers (Strachan, Garrioch, etc.).

I agree though, if Joey was planning on calling it a career, it'd be nice to have his replacement all lined up. Still, that's $6.875 million against the cap for three years after this season. I like Vinny, but much like Theodore, that's elite player money going to someone who isn't an elite player. Don't get me wrong, Lecavalier contributes at a higher level than Theodore does, but still not enough to justify that salary.

Clockwork Orange · 10-22-2006, 11:42 PM

More bad news for the Blackhawks, Handzus could be out for the season with a torn ACL & MCL. Khabibulin will be out at least two weeks.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=181633&hubname=

All of this coming on the heels of Havlat's ankle sprain. That team can't buy a break. Even if they could, "Dollar" Bill Wirtz probably wouldn't want to pay for it.

broncocalijohn · 10-23-2006, 01:57 AM

the bad news is they lost to The Blues!

broncocalijohn · 10-23-2006, 02:03 AM

Ok champ, hope you enjoyed the game today. Buffalo and Ducks are the only team w/o a regualtion loss. We actually won in overtime! Nothing like taking down your rivals. If the Avs need a goalie, what can you give up for our backup Ilya? He would be starting in many organizations.

chadta · 10-23-2006, 05:59 AM

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No chance in hell. No one's taking on his contract. The Avs are stuck with him until the 2008-09 season.

Lord knows they'll probably give him a contract extension before then and tell everyone what a great guy he is.

****ing nauseating. I never wanted this loser here in the first place.

Call the flyers, you take on our pylons hatcher, and rathje, and take the human seive robert esche off our hands give us theadore and your second and third rounds next year, consider it a done deal.

Jens1893 · 10-23-2006, 06:30 PM

Avs up 3-1 midway thru the 2nd ... 3 PP goals by Svatos, Liles and Hejduk, Stastny with another assist ... keep it up.

Make that 4-1 ... Stastny with the 2nd goal of his NHL career.

Clockwork Orange · 10-23-2006, 07:08 PM

Milan Hejduk gave his "magical 'ands" a rest and scored one off his face.

24champ · 10-23-2006, 08:34 PM

Kings played fine for a while and then they just played stupid by commiting stupid ****ing penalties that put us in the hole for good. I liked what I saw from Kopitar but damn none of his linemates know what to do when Kopitar puts them in position to score. Sam Gagner come on down and collect your prized Kings jersey on June 23rd in Columbus, OH.

Mtbrncofn · 10-23-2006, 09:20 PM

Great game, eh champ?

I hope Jose was paying attention.

Breck Bronc · 10-23-2006, 09:24 PM

I'm glad we still have Peter Budaj. I think in today's NHL a goaltender has to be able to shake off any goals they give up and move on. This isn't the Dead Puck-era anymore and goalies are going to have really bad nights on occasion.

I think both David Aebischer and Jose Theodore tend to fall apart mentally after a few goals, unlike Budaj. I've never been a big fan of Aebischer's technical game in net, either. He gives up way too many rebounds for my taste and is streaky just like the guy who he was traded for.

Theodore doesn't cover enough net and has an awful glove hand. I was hoping he would have even a little bit of a turnaround this season, but the early results aren't encouraging. He played decent against Dallas, very good against Vancouver, below average against Edmonton, absolutely terrible vs. Chicago, good against Ottawa, and below average vs. Montreal. He didn't have much of a chance on a lot of the goals against his former team and I'll give him a pass on that game. The Chicago game he deserved all the criticism he received, but he didn't deserve it for Montreal, IMO.

I did think it was funny how Haynes and McNab kept saying they were surprised it was a high scoring game Saturday night in Montreal. I told my friends before the game that there were going to be a ton of goals because all the Colorado and Montreal shooters knew the goalies' weaknesses, and let's face it, both Theo and Aebi have some rather glaring weaknesses.

With our defense there's not going to be a lot of easy games for Theodore or Budaj, but tonight vs. Los Angeles was one of them. The Kings don't have a lot of offensive talent aside from their good young prospects. Rob Blake didn't look all that interested in tonight's game (what kind of reception did Blake get? I missed the opening of the telecast since I forgot it was a 6:00 start). I thought Anze Kopitar and his eyes looked kind of freaky. Maybe the NHL should do a Halloween promotion with the young gun.

Anyway, I'm really excited to go to the Pepsi Center Wednesday night to see Alexander Ovechkin and Alexander Semin. Jose Theodore needs to have a good game or he may be the next Drew Bledsoe.

Mtbrncofn · 10-23-2006, 09:31 PM

I'm certainly not going to b****, but on the one goal they scored, did everyone notice who was standing in front of the net like a damn statue?

Jens1893 · 10-23-2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mtbrncofn

I'm certainly not going to b****, but on the one goal they scored, did everyone notice who was standing in front of the net like a damn statue?

I didnt see it, so let me guess ... is the suspect French Canadian?

Mtbrncofn · 10-23-2006, 09:46 PM

Yes, he would be FC and a defenseman if that helps.

24champ · 10-23-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mtbrncofn

I'm certainly not going to b****, but on the one goal they scored, did everyone notice who was standing in front of the net like a damn statue?

Yeah I would say because they were suprised a defenseman like Sopel was blowing through there. Marc Crawford is using him right. Just wish we would play smarter and not have stupid ****ing penalties.

24champ · 10-23-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jens1893

I didnt see it, so let me guess ... is the suspect French Canadian?

I didn't see Avery fight anyone so I doubt it.

Jori · 10-23-2006, 10:14 PM

I'm glad that I was wrong about Paul Stastny leaving DU early. That Wolski/Stastny/Hejduk line is fun to watch. The two kids seem to have rejuvenated Hejduk. Things have to be going right when you are scoring goals off your face

Sakic only two points away from 1500

I must say that Boods mask is awesome

If I'm lucky, I'll be able to see Sakic get to 1500 on Wednesday night. Can't wait...should be a fun game

Jens1893 · 10-23-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mtbrncofn

Yes, he would be FC and a defenseman if that helps.

Then the answer is Ian Laperriere as I yet have to see Patrice Frisbee doing anything that resembles the play of a defenseman in an Avs sweater. What do I win?

Clockwork Orange · 10-23-2006, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Breck Bronc

I'm glad we still have Peter Budaj. I think in today's NHL a goaltender has to be able to shake off any goals they give up and move on. This isn't the Dead Puck-era anymore and goalies are going to have really bad nights on occasion.

I think both David Aebischer and Jose Theodore tend to fall apart mentally after a few goals, unlike Budaj. I've never been a big fan of Aebischer's technical game in net, either. He gives up way too many rebounds for my taste and is streaky just like the guy who he was traded for.

Theodore doesn't cover enough net and has an awful glove hand. I was hoping he would have even a little bit of a turnaround this season, but the early results aren't encouraging. He played decent against Dallas, very good against Vancouver, below average against Edmonton, absolutely terrible vs. Chicago, good against Ottawa, and below average vs. Montreal. He didn't have much of a chance on a lot of the goals against his former team and I'll give him a pass on that game. The Chicago game he deserved all the criticism he received, but he didn't deserve it for Montreal, IMO.

I did think it was funny how Haynes and McNab kept saying they were surprised it was a high scoring game Saturday night in Montreal. I told my friends before the game that there were going to be a ton of goals because all the Colorado and Montreal shooters knew the goalies' weaknesses, and let's face it, both Theo and Aebi have some rather glaring weaknesses.

With our defense there's not going to be a lot of easy games for Theodore or Budaj, but tonight vs. Los Angeles was one of them. The Kings don't have a lot of offensive talent aside from their good young prospects. Rob Blake didn't look all that interested in tonight's game (what kind of reception did Blake get? I missed the opening of the telecast since I forgot it was a 6:00 start). I thought Anze Kopitar and his eyes looked kind of freaky. Maybe the NHL should do a Halloween promotion with the young gun.

Anyway, I'm really excited to go to the Pepsi Center Wednesday night to see Alexander Ovechkin and Alexander Semin. Jose Theodore needs to have a good game or he may be the next Drew Bledsoe.

Theodore also doesn't seem to be focused on some nights. It's been so noticeable that I've honestly wondered if he's having problems with his eyesight.

I'm looking forward to getting a close look at Alexander The Great and Alexander The Pretty Damn Good on Wednesday, too. I'll be at the end they're attacking twice, so if Theo gets bombed, I'll have a real good view of it.

SoCalBronco · 10-23-2006, 10:49 PM

I bet Herc is definitely going to that game.

Clockwork Orange · 10-23-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jori

If I'm lucky, I'll be able to see Sakic get to 1500 on Wednesday night. Can't wait...should be a fun game

I was at the game that Sakic scored goals #498 & 499. I was just gripping in hopes that he'd complete the hat trick so that I could say I was there for #500. Unfortunately, that happened in Vancouver, in a game that wasn't even broadcast locally. If you didn't have Center Ice, you were SOL and didn't get to see him make history. Fox Sports really stepped in it on that one.

By the way, that game in which he got #498 & 499 was against Montreal. Patrick Roy and Jose Theodore put on a clinic that night....or should have checked into one. The game ended with the Avs getting the win in OT 7-6.

Hercules Rockefeller · 10-24-2006, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

I bet Herc is definitely going to that game.

Have tickets, but probably won't know until tomorrow whether or not I will be able to go because of work stuff.

Bronx33 · 10-24-2006, 08:19 AM

Stastny make number 3 star on nhl.com

http://www.nhl.com/

Kid A · 10-24-2006, 03:03 PM

http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_4539860

Goaltending controversy? If Theodore doesn't get his crap together this could get very interesting.

Hercules Rockefeller · 10-24-2006, 03:10 PM

Just let Jose play tomorrow night before the controversy erupts

10-22-2006, 10:11 PM	#276
Jori US Olympian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,627	If Sakic was retiring after this season, adding a guy like Lecavalier would make sense. Certanly can't rule out the possibility of Colorado making a call, but I personally have soured on him as a player. Then again, it's a Larry Brooks article so you have to question his availability. Last edited by Jori; 10-22-2006 at 10:15 PM..

10-22-2006, 11:42 PM	#278
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,352	More bad news for the Blackhawks, Handzus could be out for the season with a torn ACL & MCL. Khabibulin will be out at least two weeks. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=181633&hubname= All of this coming on the heels of Havlat's ankle sprain. That team can't buy a break. Even if they could, "Dollar" Bill Wirtz probably wouldn't want to pay for it. Last edited by Clockwork Orange; 10-22-2006 at 11:49 PM..

10-23-2006, 10:14 PM	#292
Jori US Olympian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,627	I'm glad that I was wrong about Paul Stastny leaving DU early. That Wolski/Stastny/Hejduk line is fun to watch. The two kids seem to have rejuvenated Hejduk. Things have to be going right when you are scoring goals off your face Sakic only two points away from 1500 I must say that Boods mask is awesome If I'm lucky, I'll be able to see Sakic get to 1500 on Wednesday night. Can't wait...should be a fun game Last edited by Jori; 10-23-2006 at 10:17 PM..

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10-23-2006, 01:57 AM	#279
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings I said Do It! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 32,070 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	the bad news is they lost to The Blues!

10-23-2006, 02:03 AM	#280
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings I said Do It! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 32,070 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	Ok champ, hope you enjoyed the game today. Buffalo and Ducks are the only team w/o a regualtion loss. We actually won in overtime! Nothing like taking down your rivals. If the Avs need a goalie, what can you give up for our backup Ilya? He would be starting in many organizations.

10-23-2006, 06:30 PM	#282
Jens1893 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: People´s Republic of Bad Cannstatt Posts: 9,127	Avs up 3-1 midway thru the 2nd ... 3 PP goals by Svatos, Liles and Hejduk, Stastny with another assist ... keep it up. Make that 4-1 ... Stastny with the 2nd goal of his NHL career.

10-23-2006, 07:08 PM	#283
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,352	Milan Hejduk gave his "magical 'ands" a rest and scored one off his face.

10-23-2006, 08:34 PM	#284
24champ Obi-Wan Phillips Keep Calm and Chive on Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nakatomi Plaza Posts: 23,268 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandstarter	Kings played fine for a while and then they just played stupid by commiting stupid ****ing penalties that put us in the hole for good. I liked what I saw from Kopitar but damn none of his linemates know what to do when Kopitar puts them in position to score. Sam Gagner come on down and collect your prized Kings jersey on June 23rd in Columbus, OH.

10-23-2006, 09:20 PM	#285
Mtbrncofn Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bigfork, MT Posts: 8,491	Great game, eh champ? I hope Jose was paying attention.

10-23-2006, 09:24 PM	#286
Breck Bronc Roland Deschain The Gunslinger Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,049	I'm glad we still have Peter Budaj. I think in today's NHL a goaltender has to be able to shake off any goals they give up and move on. This isn't the Dead Puck-era anymore and goalies are going to have really bad nights on occasion. I think both David Aebischer and Jose Theodore tend to fall apart mentally after a few goals, unlike Budaj. I've never been a big fan of Aebischer's technical game in net, either. He gives up way too many rebounds for my taste and is streaky just like the guy who he was traded for. Theodore doesn't cover enough net and has an awful glove hand. I was hoping he would have even a little bit of a turnaround this season, but the early results aren't encouraging. He played decent against Dallas, very good against Vancouver, below average against Edmonton, absolutely terrible vs. Chicago, good against Ottawa, and below average vs. Montreal. He didn't have much of a chance on a lot of the goals against his former team and I'll give him a pass on that game. The Chicago game he deserved all the criticism he received, but he didn't deserve it for Montreal, IMO. I did think it was funny how Haynes and McNab kept saying they were surprised it was a high scoring game Saturday night in Montreal. I told my friends before the game that there were going to be a ton of goals because all the Colorado and Montreal shooters knew the goalies' weaknesses, and let's face it, both Theo and Aebi have some rather glaring weaknesses. With our defense there's not going to be a lot of easy games for Theodore or Budaj, but tonight vs. Los Angeles was one of them. The Kings don't have a lot of offensive talent aside from their good young prospects. Rob Blake didn't look all that interested in tonight's game (what kind of reception did Blake get? I missed the opening of the telecast since I forgot it was a 6:00 start). I thought Anze Kopitar and his eyes looked kind of freaky. Maybe the NHL should do a Halloween promotion with the young gun. Anyway, I'm really excited to go to the Pepsi Center Wednesday night to see Alexander Ovechkin and Alexander Semin. Jose Theodore needs to have a good game or he may be the next Drew Bledsoe.

10-23-2006, 09:31 PM	#287
Mtbrncofn Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bigfork, MT Posts: 8,491	I'm certainly not going to b****, but on the one goal they scored, did everyone notice who was standing in front of the net like a damn statue?

10-23-2006, 09:46 PM	#289
Mtbrncofn Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bigfork, MT Posts: 8,491	Yes, he would be FC and a defenseman if that helps.

10-24-2006, 08:19 AM	#298
Bronx33 Douche Mod Camaraderie-ship for all Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 50,574 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von	Stastny make number 3 star on nhl.com http://www.nhl.com/

10-24-2006, 03:03 PM	#299
Kid A Ring of Famer I don't need love. I just need wins Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,592	http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_4539860 Goaltending controversy? If Theodore doesn't get his crap together this could get very interesting.

10-24-2006, 03:10 PM	#300
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 17,061 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Just let Jose play tomorrow night before the controversy erupts