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Old 10-17-2006, 11:33 AM   #226
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There is something wrong here.
Look at how bright the future for this team is. You'd never know it around here, and I put up one tiny thread for a little hi-fiving, among the gloom... and the usual suspects couldn't help but come in to piss on it.

The funniest thing is, these malcontents will use the "you're just sticking your head in the sand" argument when people want to enjoy a win a little. Never mind that everyone on this threads has recognized the teams shortcomings on 200 other threads. That's not enough. We have to be miserable people all the time, like them. Well, apparently until the QB they want to start is in... then we're allowed to enjoy wins, I'd bet.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:44 AM   #227
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Look at how bright the future for this team is. You'd never know it around here, and I put up one tiny thread for a little hi-fiving, among the gloom... and the usual suspects couldn't help but come in to piss on it.

The funniest thing is, these malcontents will use the "you're just sticking your head in the sand" argument when people want to enjoy a win a little. Never mind that everyone on this threads has recognized the teams shortcomings on 200 other threads. That's not enough. We have to be miserable people all the time, like them. Well, apparently until the QB they want to start is in... then we're allowed to enjoy wins, I'd bet.

It's no different than when we would win a game with Griese, despite how you want to paint it. It's just part of the package.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:50 AM   #228
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It's no different than when we would win a game with Griese, despite how you want to paint it. It's just part of the package.
I hope that you guys didnt weigh the bandwidth down with it as much as you have with Plummer. Maybe this is all a grand sociological experiment attempting to quantify the value that individuals put on blaming an individual when 1) the individual is not directly responsible, 2) the individual is part of a group that is succeeding, and 3) the individual has helped the group succeed. Its' the Frankenstein theory. Blame the supposed monster without thinking things through. Then kill the monster.
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Old 10-17-2006, 11:53 AM   #229
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I hope that you guys didnt weigh the bandwidth down with it as much as you have with Plummer. Maybe this is all a grand sociological experiment attempting to quantify the value that individuals put on blaming an individual when 1) the individual is not directly responsible, 2) the individual is part of a group that is succeeding, and 3) the individual has helped the group succeed. Its' the Frankenstein theory. Blame the supposed monster without thinking things through. Then kill the monster.

It consumed the board similarly to what you're seeing now. Only it was for two seasons. 2001-2002... It continued on into June of 2003, when Brian was cut. It then pretty well died completely, as the board started looking forward to what Jake could do for this team.

And it was all the same stuff... "you must hate the Broncos..." "so and so sucks" etc.

There's nothing new under the sun.

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Old 10-17-2006, 12:44 PM   #230
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No, see... you're supposed to ASSUME it's GOING to happen, and get upset about it now.

See, 4-1 is only good if you win with a score in teh 20s.

In other words, winning by 10 or so isn't good enough. 13-3 is bad.
But, had we won 20-10, that apparently would have been good.
Ahhhh, ok. I'm not in the rhythm of the game. Now I'm seeing it. Man, I could have grabbed that ball and took it all the way to Panickville, instead I dropped it. Dang.
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Old 10-17-2006, 01:29 PM   #231
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Just call him what he is--a disgruntled wide receiver. That's what he was in Green Bay. That's what he'll always be. Most WRs are. We're just lucky to have a guy like Rod Smith all these years. I can see us running WRs out of town that don't live up to Rod's standards. That's what happens to fans that get spoiled by a player. (see Elway) Here's a brain teaser: Who gets the credit for Lelie's league leading YPC. Was it Plummer's excellent passing, or was it Lelie's excellent receiving? I'm guessing that most of the pessimists here will now give the credit to Lelie since he is out of the picture and can't bring us down anymore.


Actually, initially i would have given the credit to Jake. But after some posted a video highlight on here ( forgot who ) it showed Lelie making some very tough catches that were not on target whatsovever. Lelie may not have been a great WR but here in Denver he made some catches that i thought were almost impossible.
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Look at how bright the future for this team is. You'd never know it around here, and I put up one tiny thread for a little hi-fiving, among the gloom... and the usual suspects couldn't help but come in to piss on it.

The funniest thing is, these malcontents will use the "you're just sticking your head in the sand" argument when people want to enjoy a win a little. Never mind that everyone on this threads has recognized the teams shortcomings on 200 other threads. That's not enough. We have to be miserable people all the time, like them. Well, apparently until the QB they want to start is in... then we're allowed to enjoy wins, I'd bet.


Actually, after listening to sports talk in D.C this morning we dont have anything on the Skins fans. They are in total meltdown right now.
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It consumed the board similarly to what you're seeing now. Only it was for two seasons. 2001-2002... It continued on into June of 2003, when Brian was cut. It then pretty well died completely, as the board started looking forward to what Jake could do for this team.

And it was all the same stuff... "you must hate the Broncos..." "so and so sucks" etc.

There's nothing new under the sun.


Exactly. Funny how some of the guys who go to bat for Plummer were only to eager to burn Brian to the cross. I mean, aside from mobility there isnt much that seperates Brian from Jake honestly. One guy trips over his dog and another trips over his couch. The only difference is that Jake has benefited from a much better defense the last couple of years.
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Old 10-17-2006, 01:42 PM   #234
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Actually, after listening to sports talk in D.C this morning we dont have anything on the Skins fans. They are in total meltdown right now.
With good reason.

Whereas we (in my opinion) are winning games despite not being up to our full sprint, yet. Honestly, we're 4-1 and not playing as good as I think we can... and will. That's some fairly exciting stuff, to me. I know it's not real fashionable around here to be optimistic... but I'm going to go ahead and buck the rules on that one.
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Old 10-17-2006, 01:44 PM   #235
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I mean, aside from mobility there isnt much that seperates Brian from Jake honestly.
Right, that and the ability to win games and be a team leader. Besides that, they're exactly the same.

It's amazing you could post that and actually believe it.
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With good reason.

Whereas we (in my opinion) are winning games despite not being up to our full sprint, yet. Honestly, we're 4-1 and not playing as good as I think we can... and will. That's some fairly exciting stuff, to me. I know it's not real fashionable around here to be optimistic... but I'm going to go ahead and buck the rules on that one.


Honestly, its not as bad as you might think it is. I love the fact we are winning but im terrified of wasting a great defense this year with a Qb who cant get back on track. Jake should be progressing, not regressing if you know what i mean.
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Right, that and the ability to win games and be a team leader. Besides that, they're exactly the same.

It's amazing you could post that and actually believe it.


Its more in sarcasm if anything. But still, Brian was young when he took over for John and the pressure was ten times as great than it is with Jake. And you think the defense is bad with Jake? What did you think it was with Brian?
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Old 10-17-2006, 02:57 PM   #238
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I'll be honest with you... Watching Jake Plummer stopped being fun for me period.
No fun watching him, period? That's extreme. I know his moments of success this season have been few and far between, but honestly, Taco, did you not have fun watching him scramble for a first down against the Ravens a couple times, throw that TD to Rod in the end zone, throw that 50+ yarder to Javon against the Fade, or light up the Pats for over 130 yards to Javon? If you didn't/couldn't have fun watching those happen, you really are a strange kind of Broncos fan.
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If you didn't/couldn't have fun watching those happen, you really are a strange kind of Broncos fan.

He's the kind that has to have an idol to worship. There's nothing wrong with that, but it complicates things when he sees the ghost of Elway on the field every time the ball is snapped.
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It was great to win... I just don't understand why we aren't winning 13-3 with our future.

Oh well... a win is a win. Nice job defense!
Because TJ, we wouldn't be winning close games with Cutler.

He'd be prone to make a rookie mistake. Nailbiter games like the ones we've been playing require your QB to calm, cool and confident....and that the team respects him.

Just look at it this way....we're winning games and Jake and the O haven't even began to get untracked. Imagine how well they'll do once they do.

I can remember a few seasons ago when 8-8 was all we had to look forward too...once again we have some on here who think 4-1 with an anemic O is worse than 8-8 with an O led by the NFL's most efficient QB bar none when given protection.
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Fool me twice, uh, er, uh, a fooled man can't get fooled again!
Plummer can.
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This should be titled...

THREAD FOR THOSE HAPPY ENOUGH TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS, THEN LOSE

Hey clown, answer this one simple question.

What team won the Super Bowl without making the playoffs?
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This thread title gets funnier every time I see it.
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You DO amuse me, so I have to admit that you are correct this time. Thanks for all the giggles.
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MS is trying to make it a point that Cutler is ready to play and take over. He is smart enough to let the team make the decision for him.s
How does that work, exactly? A closed-door meeting with everyone but Plummer?
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yeah yeah we won but can a 13-3 "win" against the raiders really be considered a win? theres something to be said about playing to your level not playing down. beating the ravens and patriots in close games, exciting, fulfilling....beat the chiefs in a close game, it was divisional, still rusty, yeah good woohoo....but beating the raiders by only 10 points, good but far from fulfilling.
So should we proud we beat the Packers in SBXXXII by a mere 7 points?

Who cares how big the win is? We won the freaking game. Yeah perhaps we should have scored more points...but we didn't. We won the game without scoring 30 points.

The '77 Broncos went to the Super Bowl despite our QB not throwing for 2,000 yards...and only 14 TD's. We went to the SB despite our leading rusher never gaining 500 yards...and our leading receiver had only 29 receptions for the year. But surely they sucked as well, huh?

We're winning games without the offense piling up tons of points......worked for the Ravens...why couldn't it work for us?

Would you be happier losing games 30-28?
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Did we just play the 98 Packers? Or the 2006 Raiders.

Who had 8 false starts?

Who started an absolute scrub in Walter?

Who is 0 - the Season

Who has a terrible coach, terrible talent, no- cohesiveness...

The list is to long.

We were at home, we should be killing loser teams like that. The offense is gonna have to put up pts vs the Colts/Chargers etc...

Again.

Thread for those that enjoy Blue Balls.
I'll demonstrate your absurdity by being absurd myself....

Why didn't our D pitch a shutout...afterall how could they allow a perrenial SB contender like NE only 7 points and the woeful Raiders only 3? The Raiders started a scrub in Walter, have no talent and no cohesiveness...and the league's worst HC.


Freaking clown......
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Actually, after listening to sports talk in D.C this morning we dont have anything on the Skins fans. They are in total meltdown right now.
TRUE. First everyone wanted Brunell out of town, now they want Gibbs' head on a stick...and of course Snyder's getting ripped, too. It's so bad players are being quoted on shows defending Brunell. Everyone's mad we didn't get Merriman, why we aren't playing Duckett, etc., etc. People are sending curse emails to the Radio Talk shows, and they have to edit them for the airwaves.

Meanwhile, I think Popps is one of those radicals out looking for trouble. See how people got worked up again?
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That's only 5 games that Plummer has had to adjust to all the new receivers - mainly Javon, Sheffler and to a lesser extent Kircus (and I saw Marshall out on the field today).

Or do you think that offense doesn't need to have timing and feel for where the players will be?
Ya know what...screw these doom and gloom bastards.

When we were setting offensive records year in and year out all we heard was how Kubiak and his playcalling sucked and how Mike called all the plays that worked. etc.....

So tell us how Mike hasn't taken the playbook back from Heimerdinger and Dennison?

Maybe because Mike like Popps and the rest of us doesn't care how he wins the game as long as we win the game.
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