8th Grader Taken From Class And Questioned By Secret Service Over Web Site Picture - The Orange Mane

Bronco_Beerslug · 10-14-2006, 09:56 AM

I understand completely, it was a national security issue that couldn't possibly have waited until she got home.

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Teen questioned for online Bush threats
By DON THOMPSON, Associated Press Writer Sat Oct 14,

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Upset by the war in
Iraq, Julia Wilson vented her frustrations with
President Bush last spring on her Web page on MySpace.com. She posted a picture of the president, scrawled "Kill Bush" across the top and drew a dagger stabbing his outstretched hand. She later replaced her page on the social-networking site after learning in her eighth-grade history class that such threats are a federal offense.

It was too late.

Federal authorities had found the page and placed Wilson on their checklist. They finally reached her this week in her molecular biology class.

The 14-year-old freshman was taken out of class Wednesday and questioned for about 15 minutes by two
Secret Service agents. The incident has upset her parents, who said the agents should have included them when they questioned their daughter.

On Friday, the teenager said the agents' questioning led her to tears.

"I wasn't dangerous. I mean, look at what's (stenciled) on my backpack — it's a heart. I'm a very peace-loving person," said Wilson, an honor student who describes herself as politically passionate. "I'm against the war in Iraq. I'm not going to kill the president."

Her mother, Kirstie Wilson, said two agents showed up at the family's home Wednesday afternoon, questioned her and promised to return once her daughter was home from school.

After they left, Kirstie Wilson sent a text message to her daughter's cell phone, telling her to come straight home: "There are two men from the secret service that want to talk with you. Apparently you made some death threats against president bush."

"Are you serious!?!? omg. Am I in a lot of trouble?" her daughter responded.

Moments later, Kirstie Wilson received another text message from her daughter saying agents had pulled her out of class.

Julia Wilson said the agents threatened her by saying she could be sent to juvenile hall for making the threat.

"They yelled at me a lot," she said. "They were unnecessarily mean."

Spokesmen for the Secret Service in Sacramento and Washington, D.C., said they could not comment on the case.

Wilson and her parents said the agents were justified in questioning her over her MySpace.com posting. But they said they believe agents went too far by not waiting until she was out of school.

They also said the agents should have more quickly figured out they weren't dealing with a real danger. Ultimately, the agents told the teen they would delete her investigation file.

Assistant Principal Paul Belluomini said the agents gave him the impression the girl's mother knew they were planning to question her daughter at school. There is no legal requirement that parents be notified.

"This has been an ongoing problem," said Ann Brick, an attorney with the
American Civil Liberties Union in San Francisco.

Former Govs. Pete Wilson and
Gray Davis vetoed bills that would have required that parents give consent or be present when their children are questioned at school by law enforcement officers. A similar bill this year cleared the state Senate but died in the Assembly.

Julia Wilson plans to post a new MySpace.com page, this one devoted to organizing other students to protest the Iraq war.

"I decided today I think I will because it (the questioning) went too far," she said.
http://tinyurl.com/uguso

Spider · 10-14-2006, 10:03 AM

They should beat that girl send her to Gitmo ....either that or Bomb jesus into her ........

defenseman · 10-14-2006, 10:09 AM

Not a good move on here part. Killers in this country are getting younger and younger unfortunately. Secret service can't take any chances, especially with such a violent depiction of what that 14 year old wanted to do the president.....dman

Spider · 10-14-2006, 10:10 AM

I bet this little bítch has WMD stashed in her Barbie Doll house ............ Bush save us from this 14 year old terrorist , I think she couuld very well be the next Miss Hitler ........Save us Mr War president .........

baja · 10-14-2006, 10:11 AM

Well it is just a matter of time before the bust in on LABF, watch out bro.

Spider · 10-14-2006, 10:13 AM

Save us Bush , I heard through a friend of hers that she has ties to Al Qadea ...... Next Hitler , Mushroom cloud ... go boom glow in the Dark ....... Take her down now Mr President , I bet she even has vioated UN resolutions .........

baja · 10-14-2006, 10:14 AM

Either you are with us or you are against us you little bittch

Bronco_Beerslug · 10-14-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by defenseman

Not a good move on here part. Killers in this country are getting younger and younger unfortunately. Secret service can't take any chances, especially with such a violent depiction of what that 14 year old wanted to do the president.....dman

Yeah it only took them 5 months before they decided to do anything about her picture that no longer existed. That's some quick police work there.

Spider · 10-14-2006, 10:16 AM

the terror alert level has been raised to RED !!!!!!!!!!!!!1 there is a terrorist that Infiltrated our schools ......... Invade now Mr president , bring democracy to this little shíts house , Besides if you are successfull , you can apply to what you did right with this wiley , vicious evil terrorist and aplly it to Iraq ........ Act Now Mr Bush !!!!!!!!!!! the destiny of this great country is in your hands sir .......

Spider · 10-14-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by baja fan

Either you are with us or you are against us you little bittch

i say we beat her ass and put her in Gitmo .......... The Right wingwers were scared enough of terrorist , so scared they wanted ot throw freedom out the window ..... Errand must be cowering somewhere in a corner ........ This little Bítch caused aloot of harm today ...... she needs to pay

alkemical · 10-14-2006, 10:25 AM

*plays taps*

defenseman · 10-14-2006, 10:29 AM

Well, the secret service had a job to do, they did it. Need to move on....I'm thinking we are overreacting a bit to this particular case, but, to each his own....dman

*Children, this girls age and younger were used to kill our soldiers in Vietnam on a routine basis. I believe the secret service needs to look hard at depictions similar to that 14 yr olds and investigate if necessary. You never know these days..

alkemical · 10-14-2006, 10:30 AM

Dman,

This isn't the first time the SS has come looking at kids for what they posted about the president, etc.

*what i mean by that is - It appears to me the gov't is getting more paranoid because the people are getting tired of the bull****. The president is a figure head and will always be in the 'scope' of what is wrong.

Honestly i don't want bush assinated. I think it would provoke a much dire situation with a power vacumn in which someone even "worse" could take the reigns.

I prefer non violence and using technology for my culture war.

defenseman · 10-14-2006, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Dman,

This isn't the first time the SS has come looking at kids for what they posted about the president, etc.

Your point being? And the ages of the little terrorists over the past ten years that have killed kids at high schools / middle schools. Same if a bit older than this 14 year old. You ask when do you draw the line, I ask when are parents going to take charge and responsibilty for their children. A violent teenager, hides well in most cases, and then explodes unannounced. The results can be quite shocking sometimes. Got to keep your finger on them, simple as that...dman

Spider · 10-14-2006, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defenseman

Well, the secret service had a job to do, they did it. Need to move on....I'm thinking we are overreacting a bit to this particular case, but, to each his own....dman

*Children, this girls age and younger were used to kill our soldiers in Vietnam on a routine basis. I believe the secret service needs to look hard at depictions similar to that 14 yr olds and investigate if necessary. You never know these days..

this isnt viet nam .......... This was no muslim . should the Ss investigate ? damn right , should they pull a 14 year old girl out of class , grill her without mom and dad ? **** no they shouldnt ..............there are lines in our society we have laws , when those that enforce the law break the laws or use strong arm tactics , we all loose ....... and that you can take ot the Bank ..............

defenseman · 10-14-2006, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Dman,

This isn't the first time the SS has come looking at kids for what they posted about the president, etc.

*what i mean by that is - It appears to me the gov't is getting more paranoid because the people are getting tired of the bull****. The president is a figure head and will always be in the 'scope' of what is wrong.

Honestly i don't want bush assinated. I think it would provoke a much dire situation with a power vacumn in which someone even "worse" could take the reigns.

I prefer non violence and using technology for my culture war.

Ok, I empathise with ya. Some people in the US are getting tired of the Columbia Universities of the world feeding BS to our kids too. How do you fix that? I'm tired of alot of stuff. BUT, if you threaten the president, they are going to come talk to you. Expect it. There is a few things you don't do in this world, and one of them is exactly what she did. You don't have to accept that, and it matters not how old or the sex of the offender, however, it is an absolute unadulterated fact. End of story..dman

Bronco_Beerslug · 10-14-2006, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defenseman

Ok, I empathise with ya. Some people in the US are getting tired of the Columbia Universities of the world feeding BS to our kids too. How do you fix that? I'm tired of alot of stuff. BUT, if you threaten the president, they are going to come talk to you. Expect it. There is a few things you don't do in this world, and one of them is exactly what she did. You don't have to accept that, and it matters not how old or the sex of the offender, however, it is an absolute unadulterated fact. End of story..dman

It sure in the hell does too matter how old you are!!!!

Pulling an eight grader out of class 5 months after the fact is complete BS!!!! Especially after they just told the parents they were going to question her when she got home from school.

defenseman · 10-14-2006, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by §Pide®

this isnt viet nam .......... This was no muslim . should the Ss investigate ? damn right , should they pull a 14 year old girl out of class , grill her without mom and dad ? **** no they shouldnt ..............there are lines in our society we have laws , when those that enforce the law break the laws or use strong arm tactics , we all loose ....... and that you can take ot the Bank ..............

Threaten the president, your door will eventually get knocked on , simple as that. It's the truth, and, it will never change. I fully understand why the secret service did what they did, it's up to you to make your own decision as to whether or not you agree with their tactics. I'm sure they'll listen to ya if you give them a call and complain...dman

*By the way, I'd use a payphone if you do decide to call, you never know..

alkemical · 10-14-2006, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defenseman

Ok, I empathise with ya. Some people in the US are getting tired of the Columbia Universities of the world feeding BS to our kids too. How do you fix that? I'm tired of alot of stuff. BUT, if you threaten the president, they are going to come talk to you. Expect it. There is a few things you don't do in this world, and one of them is exactly what she did. You don't have to accept that, and it matters not how old or the sex of the offender, however, it is an absolute unadulterated fact. End of story..dman

So we are all terrorists dman..... that's where it's going. Mark my words....

defenseman · 10-14-2006, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

So we are all terrorists dman..... that's where it's going. Mark my words....

Just the opposite....dman

Atlas · 10-14-2006, 10:49 AM

That's pretty amazing. I used to wish Bush be dead until I realized Cheney would be in charge.

defenseman · 10-14-2006, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

So we are all terrorists dman..... that's where it's going. Mark my words....

the secret service has no choice in some of these matters. protocol and SOP are what they are. If you do the wrong thing, the flag goes up and they've have no choice in the matter. And, quite honestly, you don't want them to have a choice. Given time hopefully, all stones are turned over and something really bad may be prevented. Very dedicated guys the secret service, we do need them...dman

alkemical · 10-14-2006, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defenseman

Just the opposite....dman

Dman,

You don't think that putting up CCTV's owned and operated by CityPD, to the E-annoyance act, to congrass changing the definition of terrorist - etc etc etc -

Step by Step - i guess i'd have to choose to march along - or find away to change the tune - and well i don't like marching....

defenseman · 10-14-2006, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlas

That's pretty amazing. I used to wish Bush be dead until I realized Chenny would be in charge.

The last thing anyone should want right now is Pres. Bush expired....very tough time in history....dman

defenseman · 10-14-2006, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Dman,

You don't think that putting up CCTV's owned and operated by CityPD, to the E-annoyance act, to congrass changing the definition of terrorist - etc etc etc -

Step by Step - i guess i'd have to choose to march along - or find away to change the tune - and well i don't like marching....

Better find a way to deal with it. Security wise, things will tighten up alot more than they are presently. I can gaurantee you that. The terrorists that exist presently in world are not standing down..dman

10-14-2006, 09:56 AM	#1
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	8th Grader Taken From Class And Questioned By Secret Service Over Web Site Picture I understand completely, it was a national security issue that couldn't possibly have waited until she got home. --------------------------------------------------------- Teen questioned for online Bush threats By DON THOMPSON, Associated Press Writer Sat Oct 14, SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Upset by the war in Iraq, Julia Wilson vented her frustrations with President Bush last spring on her Web page on MySpace.com. She posted a picture of the president, scrawled "Kill Bush" across the top and drew a dagger stabbing his outstretched hand. She later replaced her page on the social-networking site after learning in her eighth-grade history class that such threats are a federal offense. It was too late. Federal authorities had found the page and placed Wilson on their checklist. They finally reached her this week in her molecular biology class. The 14-year-old freshman was taken out of class Wednesday and questioned for about 15 minutes by two Secret Service agents. The incident has upset her parents, who said the agents should have included them when they questioned their daughter. On Friday, the teenager said the agents' questioning led her to tears. "I wasn't dangerous. I mean, look at what's (stenciled) on my backpack — it's a heart. I'm a very peace-loving person," said Wilson, an honor student who describes herself as politically passionate. "I'm against the war in Iraq. I'm not going to kill the president." Her mother, Kirstie Wilson, said two agents showed up at the family's home Wednesday afternoon, questioned her and promised to return once her daughter was home from school. After they left, Kirstie Wilson sent a text message to her daughter's cell phone, telling her to come straight home: "There are two men from the secret service that want to talk with you. Apparently you made some death threats against president bush." "Are you serious!?!? omg. Am I in a lot of trouble?" her daughter responded. Moments later, Kirstie Wilson received another text message from her daughter saying agents had pulled her out of class. Julia Wilson said the agents threatened her by saying she could be sent to juvenile hall for making the threat. "They yelled at me a lot," she said. "They were unnecessarily mean." Spokesmen for the Secret Service in Sacramento and Washington, D.C., said they could not comment on the case. Wilson and her parents said the agents were justified in questioning her over her MySpace.com posting. But they said they believe agents went too far by not waiting until she was out of school. They also said the agents should have more quickly figured out they weren't dealing with a real danger. Ultimately, the agents told the teen they would delete her investigation file. Assistant Principal Paul Belluomini said the agents gave him the impression the girl's mother knew they were planning to question her daughter at school. There is no legal requirement that parents be notified. "This has been an ongoing problem," said Ann Brick, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union in San Francisco. Former Govs. Pete Wilson and Gray Davis vetoed bills that would have required that parents give consent or be present when their children are questioned at school by law enforcement officers. A similar bill this year cleared the state Senate but died in the Assembly. Julia Wilson plans to post a new MySpace.com page, this one devoted to organizing other students to protest the Iraq war. "I decided today I think I will because it (the questioning) went too far," she said. http://tinyurl.com/uguso

10-14-2006, 10:30 AM	#13
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,691 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Dman, This isn't the first time the SS has come looking at kids for what they posted about the president, etc. what i mean by that is - It appears to me the gov't is getting more paranoid because the people are getting tired of the bull**. The president is a figure head and will always be in the 'scope' of what is wrong. Honestly i don't want bush assinated. I think it would provoke a much dire situation with a power vacumn in which someone even "worse" could take the reigns. I prefer non violence and using technology for my culture war. Last edited by alkemical; 10-14-2006 at 10:33 AM..*

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Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	That's pretty amazing. I used to wish Bush be dead until I realized Cheney would be in charge. Last edited by Atlas; 10-14-2006 at 10:52 AM..

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10-14-2006, 10:03 AM	#2
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	They should beat that girl send her to Gitmo ....either that or Bomb jesus into her ........

10-14-2006, 10:09 AM	#3
defenseman Ring of Famer 2007 record pred. (7-9) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,232	Not a good move on here part. Killers in this country are getting younger and younger unfortunately. Secret service can't take any chances, especially with such a violent depiction of what that 14 year old wanted to do the president.....dman

10-14-2006, 10:10 AM	#4
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I bet this little bítch has WMD stashed in her Barbie Doll house ............ Bush save us from this 14 year old terrorist , I think she couuld very well be the next Miss Hitler ........Save us Mr War president .........

10-14-2006, 10:11 AM	#5
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,835 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Well it is just a matter of time before the bust in on LABF, watch out bro.

10-14-2006, 10:13 AM	#6
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Save us Bush , I heard through a friend of hers that she has ties to Al Qadea ...... Next Hitler , Mushroom cloud ... go boom glow in the Dark ....... Take her down now Mr President , I bet she even has vioated UN resolutions .........

10-14-2006, 10:14 AM	#7
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,835 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Either you are with us or you are against us you little bittch

10-14-2006, 10:16 AM	#9
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	the terror alert level has been raised to RED !!!!!!!!!!!!!1 there is a terrorist that Infiltrated our schools ......... Invade now Mr president , bring democracy to this little shíts house , Besides if you are successfull , you can apply to what you did right with this wiley , vicious evil terrorist and aplly it to Iraq ........ Act Now Mr Bush !!!!!!!!!!! the destiny of this great country is in your hands sir .......

10-14-2006, 10:25 AM	#11
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,691 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	plays taps

10-14-2006, 10:29 AM	#12
defenseman Ring of Famer 2007 record pred. (7-9) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,232	Well, the secret service had a job to do, they did it. Need to move on....I'm thinking we are overreacting a bit to this particular case, but, to each his own....dman *Children, this girls age and younger were used to kill our soldiers in Vietnam on a routine basis. I believe the secret service needs to look hard at depictions similar to that 14 yr olds and investigate if necessary. You never know these days..