End Of The Line For Hastert and Any Other Republicans Who Lied About Foley - The Orange Mane

Bronco_Beerslug · 10-04-2006, 10:36 PM

No wonder none of them will take questions about their involvement!!!

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Aide says he reported Foley 3 years ago
By DEVLIN BARRETT and DAVID ESPO, Associated Press Writers

WASHINGTON - House Speaker Dennis Hastert's political support showed signs of cracking on Wednesday as Republicans fled an election-year scandal spawned by steamy computer messages from former Rep. Mark Foley (news, bio, voting record) to teenage male pages.

At the same time, Foley's former chief of staff said in an Associated Press interview that he first warned Hastert's aides more than three years ago that Foley's behavior toward pages was troublesome. That was long before GOP leaders acknowledged learning of the problem.

Kirk Fordham, who was Foley's top aide until January 2004, said he had "more than one conversation with senior staff at the highest level of the House of Representatives asking them to intervene" several years ago.

Fordham resigned Wednesday as staff chief for another lawmaker caught up in the scandal, New York Rep. Thomas Reynolds (news, bio, voting record), the House GOP campaign chief who says he alerted Hastert to concerns about Foley last spring.

The aide's claim drew a swift, unequivocal denial from Hastert's chief of staff. "What Kirk Fordham said did not happen," Scott Palmer said through a spokesman.

Hastert's political difficulties were evident half a continent away.

Rep. Roy Blunt (news, bio, voting record) of Missouri, third-ranking leader, pointedly told reporters he would have handled the matter differently than the speaker, had he known of it.

"I think I could have given some good advice here, which is, You have to be curious, you have to ask all the questions you can think of," said Blunt, a member of the leadership. "You absolutely can't decide not to look into activities because one individual's parents don't want you to."

Republican Rep. Ron Lewis (news, bio, voting record) of Kentucky, in a tougher-than-expected re-election race, abruptly canceled an invitation for Hastert to join him at a fundraiser next week.

"I'm taking the speaker's words at face value," Lewis told the AP. "I have no reason to doubt him. But until this is cleared up, I want to know the facts. If anyone in our leadership has done anything wrong, then I will be the first in line to condemn it."

Republican officials said at least a few disgruntled members of the GOP rank and file had discussed whether to call on the speaker to step aside. It was not known how far the effort had gone. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the issue.

Ron Bonjean, Hastert's spokesman, said the entire matter had been referred to the House ethics committee. "We fully expect that the bipartisan panel will do what it needs to do to investigate this matter and protect the integrity of the House," he added.

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi went one step further, saying in a statement that Hastert and the rest of the GOP leadership should be "immediately questioned under oath...."

"The children, their parents, the public, and our colleagues deserve answers and those who covered up Mark Foley's behavior must be held accountable," she said.

Foley, 52, a Florida Republican, resigned last Friday after he was confronted with sexually explicit electronic messages he had sent teenage male pages. He has since entered an alcohol rehabilitation facility at an undisclosed location. Through his lawyer, he has said he is gay but denied any sexual contact with minors.

His abrupt departure left behind an Internet-age sex scandal that has shaken Republican confidence — and poll numbers — little more than a month before elections at which their control of the House will be tested.

It also plunged Hastert and others into an intensive effort to grapple with conflicting claims about what senior lawmakers knew, when they learned it and what they did about it.

Fordham said that more than three years ago, he repeatedly asked GOP staffers to intervene with Foley, his boss at the time. He declined to identify them, but officials said Palmer, Hastert's chief of staff, was one of them. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

Fordham also disputed allegations that he covered up any misdeeds by Foley. "At no point ever did I ask anyone to block any inquiries," said Fordham, who was Foley's longtime chief of staff until leaving in January 2004.

He said he intends to fully disclose to the
FBI and the House ethics committee "any and all meetings and phone calls" about Foley that he had with senior aides in the House leadership.

State and federal investigators swung into action.

The Justice Department ordered House officials to "preserve all records" related to Foley's electronic correspondence with teenagers, and one law enforcement official said FBI agents have begun interviewing participants in the House page program. It was not clear whether those questioned were current or former pages, or both.

The request for record preservation is often followed by search warrants and subpoenas, and signal that investigators are moving closer to a criminal investigation.

The request was aimed at averting a conflict with the House similar to a standoff in May when FBI agents raided Louisiana Rep. William Jefferson (news, bio, voting record)'s office seeking information in a bribery investigation.

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Spider · 10-04-2006, 10:41 PM

This is bad , goes beyond party lines ......Kinda reminds me of Cardinal Law of the Catholic Church and the game of hide the pedophile priest ....... Does aiding and abedding come into play if foley is found guilty of a crime ?

Bronco_Beerslug · 10-04-2006, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by §Pide®

This is bad , goes beyond party lines ......Kinda reminds me of Cardinal Law of the Catholic Church and the game of hide the pedophile priest ....... Does aiding and abedding come into play if foley is found guilty of a crime ?

One would think their complicity (trying to keep one of their own in office knowing he was a sexual deviant) is a BIG problem for them now, legally.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-05-2006, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

One would think their complicity (trying to keep one of their own in office knowing he was a sexual deviant) is a BIG problem for them now, legally.

Except for the fact that the repukes are basically untouchable insofar as they control both houses and the judiciary. Were this not the case, Bush and his entire crime syndicate would be behind bars right about now.

At any rate, the Grand Old Pedophiles will throw Hastert under the bus if they think he's becoming too much of political liability for them - not because it's the right thing to do or because they care about what's good for the country.

ClevelandBronco · 10-05-2006, 03:03 AM

What an absolute embarrassment it is to be associated with men such as these.

I have no problem with having a difference of opinion about any number of issues with you guys, but this has nothing to do with that.

This is all just disgraceful.

ClevelandBronco · 10-05-2006, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by §Pide®

This is bad , goes beyond party lines ......Kinda reminds me of Cardinal Law of the Catholic Church and the game of hide the pedophile priest ....... Does aiding and abedding come into play if foley is found guilty of a crime ?

You mean "abetting," not "abedding."

Though in this case there's virtually no difference.

In fact, forget it. Your Spiderism is closer to the truth than the facts are.

Bronco_Beerslug · 10-05-2006, 04:55 AM

Fox News jumps into the Republican game of liars. Notice how they portray Foley on their news reports.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-05-2006, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Fox News jumps into the Republican game of liars. Notice how they portray Foley on their news reports.

The really sickening part is that a lot of people who aren't political junkies and/or who don't follow the news all that closely are going to see this and accept it as a fact.

The slimebags at Fux know this.

That's how sleazy and dishonest these f_cks are.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-05-2006, 05:45 AM

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-05-2006, 05:56 AM

defenseman · 10-05-2006, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Fox News jumps into the Republican game of liars. Notice how they portray Foley on their news reports.

Yep, I caught that too. Unsatisfactory for sure...dman

defenseman · 10-05-2006, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

What an absolute embarrassment it is to be associated with men such as these.

I have no problem with having a difference of opinion about any number of issues with you guys, but this has nothing to do with that.

This is all just disgraceful.

If it's true, it truly is disgraceful. Consequently, the members who are involved need to be looked at hard. And step down if need be. I was listening to the radio and Hastert has apparently told someone with a bit of influence that if it will help the republican party, he'd step down. Hadn't heard that yet out of him. I guess we'll see where it goes. In any case, it's sure getting interesting to see how this is developing....dman

Rohirrim · 10-05-2006, 06:45 AM

Wow! Flip on the light and all the cockroaches scurry for cover. I'll bet Hastert thought he had some good buddies on the Hill - until this happened. Boehner's already tossed him to the wolves. Now Blunt. Haven't these guys ever heard of loyalty? Last week they had their arms wrapped around ole Denny. Now, they're fighting over who gets to replace him.

What's even funnier is that all of these guys are the ones most tied up with Abramoff. If they think the **** has hit the fan, just wait until the Dems move in and start some REAL investigations into the bribery and payoffs that have been going on up there for the last decade - instead of the sham investigtions that Denny has been allowing to idle in neutral. Of course, the way it looks now, Hastert was protecting Foley because Foley is one of the GOP's best fundraisers. Or was.

defenseman · 10-05-2006, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Wow! Flip on the light and all the cockroaches scurry for cover. I'll bet Hastert thought he had some good buddies on the Hill - until this happened. Boehner's already tossed him to the wolves. Now Blunt. Haven't these guys ever heard of loyalty? Last week they had their arms wrapped around ole Denny. Now, they're fighting over who gets to replace him.

What's even funnier is that all of these guys are the ones most tied up with Abramoff. If they think the **** has hit the fan, just wait until the Dems move in and start some REAL investigations into the bribery and payoffs that have been going on up there for the last decade - instead of the sham investigtions that Denny has been allowing to idle in neutral. Of course, the way it looks now, Hastert was protecting Foley because Foley is one of the GOP's best fundraisers. Or was.

Don't see that happening. IF, the dems play their cards right, and they better, they'll stay on subject (Foley/Hastert and whomever) and deal with that as an entity in itself. Again, politicizing this beyond a certian threshold could very well backfire on them. Pelosi is pushing the envelope right now. She needs to back down a bit. The entire GOP leadership? Nobody has anything solid on alot of folks right now yet they are trying to put them all under the same umbrella. Not a good thing. Especially since, IF some Dems start getting sucked in, they are shooting themselves in the foot. Don't get me wrong, it appears anyway that a full blown investigation needs to be performed, and see where it leads. Wouldn't surprise me of some from both parties get their door knocked on with this one..dman

*In short, because a member of any party is obviously a screwed up individual doesn't mean the rest of the party is screwed up. that goes the same for both sides of the fence.

Rohirrim · 10-05-2006, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by defenseman

Don't see that happening. IF, the dems play their cards right, and they better, they'll stay on subject (Foley/Hastert and whomever) and deal with that as an entity in itself. Again, politicizing this beyond a certian threshold could very well backfire on them. Pelosi is pushing the envelope right now. She needs to back down a bit. The entire GOP leadership? Nobody has anything solid on alot of folks right now yet they are trying to put them all under the same umbrella. Not a good thing. Especially since, IF some Dems start getting sucked in, they are shooting themselves in the foot. Don't get me wrong, it appears anyway that a full blown investigation needs to be performed, and see where it leads. Wouldn't surprise me of some from both parties get their door knocked on with this one..dman

If there's a way for the Dems to shoot themselves in the foot, believe me, they'll shoot themselves in both feet. In the first place, having Pelosi in charge is like being in the front of the race and throwing out your anchor. Why the Dems think the rest of the country can even relate to these NY/SanFran liberals is beyond me. They are on the fringe of American politics. It's like the Dems keep sending the message, "If you're in NY or San Francisco, we love you. If you're from anywhere else in the U.S., you can go **** yourself."

Like another article posted on the board today, Westerners can't stand these friggin people (Dean, Pelosi, Hillary). Personally speaking, I wish Pelosi would step down and the Dems would put Rangel in charge. I don't know his politics (except he's a Dem) but he sure would be more entertaining to listen to. He's the one who said about Bush, "Well, he has single-handedly destroyed the myth of white supremacy."

Besides, he's a tough old pol. He could whip these Dems into shape.

Spider · 10-05-2006, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

You mean "abetting," not "abedding."

Though in this case there's virtually no difference.

In fact, forget it. Your Spiderism is closer to the truth than the facts are.

...looks like I have to get more clever ... you and tredci are hard to get things by ........................Tredci got me on one Tarding cards of Raider fans ) pun being tards instead of trading

) now the bedding . good job

Paladin · 10-05-2006, 12:24 PM

ABCnews.com

"Hastert is also going on the offensive, accusing Democrats tied to former President Clinton and the media of promoting the Foley story in order to hurt Republican chances in the midterm elections. Although Hastert has offered no proof for the allegations, such charges in the past have worked well in inspiring the party's conservative base to turn out to vote."

I just knew this had to be Clinton'c fault. Thank you, Denny. We now know that there is a shadowy group of....um....liberals out there who intentionally rigged Foley's e-mails so that they would be xc'd to the New York Times and to the Los Angeles Times and to...... All, of course are ready to piunce upon the poor hapless.......hapless.........Republicans because they obviously don't know squat about Iraq, don't know squat about their own party an don't wnat to know, any way.

Big difference, folks: Lewinsky was female and of age. Foley's tagets were 16-year-old boys, and Foley was in a position of an adult supervisor. Scumbags is scumbags. What's good for Clinton is good for Hastert.

Gawddamm spin doctors. Don't know the truth and can't say it. I think the entire Republican Party is in a State of Denial.

bronco militia · 10-05-2006, 12:28 PM

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU OCT 5 2006 2:53:48 ET XXXXX

CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**

According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.

The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.

The news come on the heels that Edmund has hired former Timothy McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones.

Developing...

alkemical · 10-05-2006, 12:33 PM

Even false things are true.....

Traveler · 10-05-2006, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco militia

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU OCT 5 2006 2:53:48 ET XXXXX

CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**

According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.

The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.

The news come on the heels that Edmund has hired former Timothy McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones.

Developing...

deflection anyone?

Traveler · 10-05-2006, 12:42 PM

Hastert apologizes but refuses to resign

The House ethics committee opened an expansive investigation into the unfolding page sex scandal Thursday by approving four dozen subpoenas for witnesses and documents, as the House Republican leader held his ground against pressure to resign. "I'm deeply sorry this has happened and the bottom line is we're taking responsibility," Hastert said at a news conference outside his district office in Batavia, Ill.

http://www.yahoo.com/s/241351

Thinks folks would have more confidence if outside investigators were brought in.

bronco militia · 10-05-2006, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traveler

deflection anyone?

regardless of this news, Foley didn't care if it was a prank...

and everything else in the news about this story is politics as usual.

we don't need a 3rd party, we need two new parties

alkemical · 10-05-2006, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco militia

regardless of this news, Foley didn't care if it was a prank...

and everything else in the news about this story is politics as usual.

we don't need a 3rd party, we need two new parties

I agree - but the two established parties have made getting any sort of funding next to impossible.

Traveler · 10-05-2006, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Wow! Flip on the light and all the cockroaches scurry for cover. I'll bet Hastert thought he had some good buddies on the Hill - until this happened. Boehner's already tossed him to the wolves. Now Blunt. Haven't these guys ever heard of loyalty? Last week they had their arms wrapped around ole Denny. Now, they're fighting over who gets to replace him.

Hence the term: "Republicans eat their own"

baja · 10-05-2006, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco militia

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU OCT 5 2006 2:53:48 ET XXXXX

CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY
**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**

According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.

The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.

The news come on the heels that Edmund has hired former Timothy McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones.

Developing...

And this is why he resigned, right.

That other boy did it momey

10-04-2006, 10:36 PM	#1
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	End Of The Line For Hastert and Any Other Republicans Who Lied About Foley No wonder none of them will take questions about their involvement!!! --------------------------------------------------------- Aide says he reported Foley 3 years ago By DEVLIN BARRETT and DAVID ESPO, Associated Press Writers WASHINGTON - House Speaker Dennis Hastert's political support showed signs of cracking on Wednesday as Republicans fled an election-year scandal spawned by steamy computer messages from former Rep. Mark Foley (news, bio, voting record) to teenage male pages. At the same time, Foley's former chief of staff said in an Associated Press interview that he first warned Hastert's aides more than three years ago that Foley's behavior toward pages was troublesome. That was long before GOP leaders acknowledged learning of the problem. Kirk Fordham, who was Foley's top aide until January 2004, said he had "more than one conversation with senior staff at the highest level of the House of Representatives asking them to intervene" several years ago. Fordham resigned Wednesday as staff chief for another lawmaker caught up in the scandal, New York Rep. Thomas Reynolds (news, bio, voting record), the House GOP campaign chief who says he alerted Hastert to concerns about Foley last spring. The aide's claim drew a swift, unequivocal denial from Hastert's chief of staff. "What Kirk Fordham said did not happen," Scott Palmer said through a spokesman. Hastert's political difficulties were evident half a continent away. Rep. Roy Blunt (news, bio, voting record) of Missouri, third-ranking leader, pointedly told reporters he would have handled the matter differently than the speaker, had he known of it. "I think I could have given some good advice here, which is, You have to be curious, you have to ask all the questions you can think of," said Blunt, a member of the leadership. "You absolutely can't decide not to look into activities because one individual's parents don't want you to." Republican Rep. Ron Lewis (news, bio, voting record) of Kentucky, in a tougher-than-expected re-election race, abruptly canceled an invitation for Hastert to join him at a fundraiser next week. "I'm taking the speaker's words at face value," Lewis told the AP. "I have no reason to doubt him. But until this is cleared up, I want to know the facts. If anyone in our leadership has done anything wrong, then I will be the first in line to condemn it." Republican officials said at least a few disgruntled members of the GOP rank and file had discussed whether to call on the speaker to step aside. It was not known how far the effort had gone. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the issue. Ron Bonjean, Hastert's spokesman, said the entire matter had been referred to the House ethics committee. "We fully expect that the bipartisan panel will do what it needs to do to investigate this matter and protect the integrity of the House," he added. House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi went one step further, saying in a statement that Hastert and the rest of the GOP leadership should be "immediately questioned under oath...." "The children, their parents, the public, and our colleagues deserve answers and those who covered up Mark Foley's behavior must be held accountable," she said. Foley, 52, a Florida Republican, resigned last Friday after he was confronted with sexually explicit electronic messages he had sent teenage male pages. He has since entered an alcohol rehabilitation facility at an undisclosed location. Through his lawyer, he has said he is gay but denied any sexual contact with minors. His abrupt departure left behind an Internet-age sex scandal that has shaken Republican confidence — and poll numbers — little more than a month before elections at which their control of the House will be tested. It also plunged Hastert and others into an intensive effort to grapple with conflicting claims about what senior lawmakers knew, when they learned it and what they did about it. Fordham said that more than three years ago, he repeatedly asked GOP staffers to intervene with Foley, his boss at the time. He declined to identify them, but officials said Palmer, Hastert's chief of staff, was one of them. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter. Fordham also disputed allegations that he covered up any misdeeds by Foley. "At no point ever did I ask anyone to block any inquiries," said Fordham, who was Foley's longtime chief of staff until leaving in January 2004. He said he intends to fully disclose to the FBI and the House ethics committee "any and all meetings and phone calls" about Foley that he had with senior aides in the House leadership. State and federal investigators swung into action. The Justice Department ordered House officials to "preserve all records" related to Foley's electronic correspondence with teenagers, and one law enforcement official said FBI agents have begun interviewing participants in the House page program. It was not clear whether those questioned were current or former pages, or both. The request for record preservation is often followed by search warrants and subpoenas, and signal that investigators are moving closer to a criminal investigation. The request was aimed at averting a conflict with the House similar to a standoff in May when FBI agents raided Louisiana Rep. William Jefferson (news, bio, voting record)'s office seeking information in a bribery investigation. CONT

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10-04-2006, 10:41 PM	#2
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	This is bad , goes beyond party lines ......Kinda reminds me of Cardinal Law of the Catholic Church and the game of hide the pedophile priest ....... Does aiding and abedding come into play if foley is found guilty of a crime ?

10-05-2006, 03:03 AM	#5
ClevelandBronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Freedonia Posts: 1,643	What an absolute embarrassment it is to be associated with men such as these. I have no problem with having a difference of opinion about any number of issues with you guys, but this has nothing to do with that. This is all just disgraceful.

10-05-2006, 04:55 AM	#7
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	Fox News jumps into the Republican game of liars. Notice how they portray Foley on their news reports.

10-05-2006, 05:45 AM	#9
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694

10-05-2006, 05:56 AM	#10
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10-05-2006, 06:45 AM	#13
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,854	Wow! Flip on the light and all the cockroaches scurry for cover. I'll bet Hastert thought he had some good buddies on the Hill - until this happened. Boehner's already tossed him to the wolves. Now Blunt. Haven't these guys ever heard of loyalty? Last week they had their arms wrapped around ole Denny. Now, they're fighting over who gets to replace him. What's even funnier is that all of these guys are the ones most tied up with Abramoff. If they think the **** has hit the fan, just wait until the Dems move in and start some REAL investigations into the bribery and payoffs that have been going on up there for the last decade - instead of the sham investigtions that Denny has been allowing to idle in neutral. Of course, the way it looks now, Hastert was protecting Foley because Foley is one of the GOP's best fundraisers. Or was.

10-05-2006, 12:24 PM	#17
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,151	ABCnews.com "Hastert is also going on the offensive, accusing Democrats tied to former President Clinton and the media of promoting the Foley story in order to hurt Republican chances in the midterm elections. Although Hastert has offered no proof for the allegations, such charges in the past have worked well in inspiring the party's conservative base to turn out to vote." I just knew this had to be Clinton'c fault. Thank you, Denny. We now know that there is a shadowy group of....um....liberals out there who intentionally rigged Foley's e-mails so that they would be xc'd to the New York Times and to the Los Angeles Times and to...... All, of course are ready to piunce upon the poor hapless.......hapless.........Republicans because they obviously don't know squat about Iraq, don't know squat about their own party an don't wnat to know, any way. Big difference, folks: Lewinsky was female and of age. Foley's tagets were 16-year-old boys, and Foley was in a position of an adult supervisor. Scumbags is scumbags. What's good for Clinton is good for Hastert. Gawddamm spin doctors. Don't know the truth and can't say it. I think the entire Republican Party is in a *State of Denial*.

10-05-2006, 12:28 PM	#18
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX THU OCT 5 2006 2:53:48 ET XXXXX CLAIM: FILTHY FOLEY ONLINE MESSAGES WERE PAGE PRANK GONE AWRY World Exclusive Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal. According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats. The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter. The news come on the heels that Edmund has hired former Timothy McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones. Developing...

10-05-2006, 12:33 PM	#19
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,698 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Even false things are true.....

10-05-2006, 12:42 PM	#21
Traveler Traveling Man! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,411 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	Hastert apologizes but refuses to resign The House ethics committee opened an expansive investigation into the unfolding page sex scandal Thursday by approving four dozen subpoenas for witnesses and documents, as the House Republican leader held his ground against pressure to resign. "I'm deeply sorry this has happened and the bottom line is we're taking responsibility," Hastert said at a news conference outside his district office in Batavia, Ill. http://www.yahoo.com/s/241351 Thinks folks would have more confidence if outside investigators were brought in.