Shell, Walsh a clumsy coaching combination - The Orange Mane

Bob's your Information Minister · 10-02-2006, 03:50 PM

http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/a...lsh021006.html

"I don't feel like I've been in retirement at all."

"We've been doing all of the technology that's been in all of the Sega games and all of those products -- all of the playbook stuff."

In late July, Tom Walsh made sure it was clear to all.

He had a friend who wrote the coding for a video football game, on a platform whose highest-selling console debuted in 1989.

All at once, the city of Oakland breathed a sigh of relief.

Their Raiders were in good hands.

Yeah, right.

Three games into the '06 season, Walsh has shown his mastery of "all of the playbook stuff" by generating 27 points, 531 total yards and 19 sacks against. The Raiders, consequently, have dropped their first three games of the season, including a devastating 24-21 defeat on Sunday against the Cleveland Browns .

In the team's most efficient offensive outing, starting quarterback Andrew Walter completed just 9-of-23 passes for 68 yards against the injury-laden Browns' secondary, despite establishing a daunting rushing attack early. With Jerry Porter deactivated for the third straight game, Ronald Curry emerged as the team's leading receiver, with just 27 yards on three catches.

Meanwhile, on the sidelines, head coach Art Shell was emotionless as ever.

"That's who I am," Shell said prior to the game. "People have said to me, 'You don't show any emotions.' I am who I am. I can't be anybody else. I can't be yelling and screaming if I'm not that type of guy."

"I can't be looking up at the scoreboard, doodling on my clipboard and throwing a red flag simultaneously," he should have added.

Shell, with just over 11 minutes remaining in the fourth quarter, failed to challenge a blatantly poor ball spot, later citing the almighty booth's failure to relay the message to him down on the sidelines. Rather than attempt a game-tying field goal or QB sneak on fourth down, LaMont Jordan was handed the ball, abruptly dropped two yards deep in the backfield by Orpheus Roye. In the subsequent drive, Cleveland would control the ball for over seven minutes.

"You know, all of this so-called bad press that you get from outside sources...it's like someone is writing a lot of fiction," Tom Walsh said three months ago.

Prove it.

Clockwork Orange · 10-02-2006, 03:54 PM

I remember saying during the offseason that the Fade were going to be reduced to interviewing local high school coaches to fill the vacancies that Shell and the innkeeper eventually did. I was kidding at the time, but now I'm starting to think that they might have been better off if that'd actually happened. Things certainly wouldn't be any worse.

Bronx33 · 10-02-2006, 04:20 PM

Scary alice has drivin the fanchise into the ground but ask any raider fan and they will say hes a freaking NFL legend, ATTN: raider faithful even freaking legends can lose their marbles and nobody that is worth a squat wants to caoch for the lunatic. (i wonder why?)

Killericon · 10-02-2006, 04:32 PM

I think that if the NFL expanded again, that new team would be in better shape than the Raiders.

Beantown Bronco · 10-02-2006, 04:45 PM

Hopefully they find a replacement before Fisher becomes available....

Billy Clyde Puckett · 10-02-2006, 04:58 PM

Fisher will have better offers. Maybe Giants if they under achieve, maybe the phins if the players revolt on Sabin, maybe Dallas if Tuna has had enough.

DomCasual · 10-02-2006, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Hopefully they find a replacement before Fisher becomes available....

Nah. Considering Walsh's comments in the article, I think their best bet is to hire someone among this group.

Old Dude · 10-02-2006, 05:13 PM

The Raiders are so pathetic, I almost feel sorry for them.

I can't think of a nastier thing to say than that.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 10-02-2006, 05:27 PM

I'm thinking one of these guys might continue the tradition

jossjeff · 10-02-2006, 09:25 PM

I laughed.

Then cried a little.

Florida_Bronco · 10-02-2006, 10:10 PM

Hahahahaha...that's funny **** right there.

watermock · 10-02-2006, 11:06 PM

I honestly believe I could coach that catastrophe better than the last half dozen. They are going thru coaching stfffs faster than paper plates. First thing I do is clean the plate completely. I mean completely. I have never seen a team so devoid of talent.

BTW, Fargas had a 48 yard run Slappy. What did Pierce do last week? At any rate, the whole team needs dismantling.

I could at least have Al shot up with Vicodin and delegate some authority and get rid of the crap the is so pervasive, including Moss. If he is the "Missing Link" then anthropologists are out of a job.

Watching Oakland coaches is like watching a slackjawed hillbilly at a physics convention. Shell is so clueless it's literally hysterical.

I don't think even Lou Holtz would take that job.

Fisher isn't going to take a job there. We can find a spot for him here if he wants one. I don't care what stupid title they give him. Assistant to the assistant...whatever. Shanahan and Fisher are friends and he would be an addition. The last thing he needs is another beat down in Oakland to totally throw his career into the dumpster.

Walter managed a fantastic 29 rating with the great Moss. I can only hope they bottle Crazy Al's head for the next half century. I can't imagine any legitimate coach that would go there.

Art Shell isn't even a legitimate coach. He thinks using motion if for birds. Motion has been used for 40 years. He's nothing but an old school offensive line coach that can't get Gallery to give a rats ass. Great coaching. #2 pick and he's a turnstile.

I enjoy rivalries...Kansas City, San Diego can give us a fight or even win. At any rate, I don't really give a RatBird's ass either way. Getting them twice won't make any difference in the division, just the conference.

BTW, this is the most talented team Brett Favre has ever had the privelege of playing behind. We will tell you so as soon as he has spinal reconstruction.

NaptownChief · 10-02-2006, 11:44 PM

I just can't believe old Don't Go Messing Your Pants hasn't been around as he told me he shows up win or "loose".

DeuceOfClub · 10-03-2006, 04:25 AM

“What smells like old cheese?”

“That’s just Shell”

“Oh, that’s just Shell, honey”

ol number 7 · 10-03-2006, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronx33

Scary alice has drivin the fanchise into the ground but ask any raider fan and they will say hes a freaking NFL legend, ATTN: raider faithful even freaking legends can lose their marbles and nobody that is worth a squat wants to caoch for the lunatic. (i wonder why?)

Muhammed Ali is a legend, Anyone want to put some money on him against any club fighters right now? Al is as Stubborn as he is stupid !! He doesn't want to hire anyone who knows more than him so that's why he hired a big ol dummy named Shell. Who in there right mind would take that piece of crap job after what he did to Gruden? See you in two weeks as I'm comin to town for "The Beatdown of Al Davis part XXV" .

ol number 7 · 10-03-2006, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomCasual

Nah. Considering Walsh's comments in the article, I think their best bet is to hire someone among this group.

I think the St. LOuis guy House Shoe Brown might fit in well with Oakland.

Circle Orange · 10-03-2006, 09:39 AM

I never understood Shell going back to coach the Raiders. If an employer kicked me out I sure as hell wouldn't go crawling back (and as a last option at that).

He may have had a winning record before, but I think he's probably just a lousy head coach. Something that seems to escape a lot of the pundits out there.

10-02-2006, 03:50 PM	#1
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Shell, Walsh a clumsy coaching combination http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/a...lsh021006.html "I don't feel like I've been in retirement at all." "We've been doing all of the technology that's been in all of the Sega games and all of those products -- all of the playbook stuff." In late July, Tom Walsh made sure it was clear to all. He had a friend who wrote the coding for a video football game, on a platform whose highest-selling console debuted in 1989. All at once, the city of Oakland breathed a sigh of relief. Their Raiders were in good hands. Yeah, right. Three games into the '06 season, Walsh has shown his mastery of "all of the playbook stuff" by generating 27 points, 531 total yards and 19 sacks against. The Raiders, consequently, have dropped their first three games of the season, including a devastating 24-21 defeat on Sunday against the Cleveland Browns . In the team's most efficient offensive outing, starting quarterback Andrew Walter completed just 9-of-23 passes for 68 yards against the injury-laden Browns' secondary, despite establishing a daunting rushing attack early. With Jerry Porter deactivated for the third straight game, Ronald Curry emerged as the team's leading receiver, with just 27 yards on three catches. Meanwhile, on the sidelines, head coach Art Shell was emotionless as ever. "That's who I am," Shell said prior to the game. "People have said to me, 'You don't show any emotions.' I am who I am. I can't be anybody else. I can't be yelling and screaming if I'm not that type of guy." "I can't be looking up at the scoreboard, doodling on my clipboard and throwing a red flag simultaneously," he should have added. Shell, with just over 11 minutes remaining in the fourth quarter, failed to challenge a blatantly poor ball spot, later citing the almighty booth's failure to relay the message to him down on the sidelines. Rather than attempt a game-tying field goal or QB sneak on fourth down, LaMont Jordan was handed the ball, abruptly dropped two yards deep in the backfield by Orpheus Roye. In the subsequent drive, Cleveland would control the ball for over seven minutes. "You know, all of this so-called bad press that you get from outside sources...it's like someone is writing a lot of fiction," Tom Walsh said three months ago. Prove it.

10-02-2006, 05:27 PM	#9
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	I'm thinking one of these guys might continue the tradition Last edited by Billy Clyde Puckett; 02-03-2007 at 10:59 AM..

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10-02-2006, 03:54 PM	#2
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	I remember saying during the offseason that the Fade were going to be reduced to interviewing local high school coaches to fill the vacancies that Shell and the innkeeper eventually did. I was kidding at the time, but now I'm starting to think that they might have been better off if that'd actually happened. Things certainly wouldn't be any worse.

10-02-2006, 04:20 PM	#3
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Scary alice has drivin the fanchise into the ground but ask any raider fan and they will say hes a freaking NFL legend, ATTN: raider faithful even freaking legends can lose their marbles and nobody that is worth a squat wants to caoch for the lunatic. (i wonder why?)

10-02-2006, 04:32 PM	#4
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	I think that if the NFL expanded again, that new team would be in better shape than the Raiders.

10-02-2006, 04:45 PM	#5
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,040 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	Hopefully they find a replacement before Fisher becomes available....

10-02-2006, 04:58 PM	#6
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	Fisher will have better offers. Maybe Giants if they under achieve, maybe the phins if the players revolt on Sabin, maybe Dallas if Tuna has had enough.

10-02-2006, 05:13 PM	#8
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,146	The Raiders are so pathetic, I almost feel sorry for them. I can't think of a nastier thing to say than that.

10-02-2006, 09:25 PM	#10
jossjeff Pro Bowler Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: RaiderNation Posts: 721	I laughed. Then cried a little.

10-02-2006, 10:10 PM	#11
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	Hahahahaha...that's funny **** right there.

10-02-2006, 11:06 PM	#12
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	I honestly believe I could coach that catastrophe better than the last half dozen. They are going thru coaching stfffs faster than paper plates. First thing I do is clean the plate completely. I mean completely. I have never seen a team so devoid of talent. BTW, Fargas had a 48 yard run Slappy. What did Pierce do last week? At any rate, the whole team needs dismantling. I could at least have Al shot up with Vicodin and delegate some authority and get rid of the crap the is so pervasive, including Moss. If he is the "Missing Link" then anthropologists are out of a job. Watching Oakland coaches is like watching a slackjawed hillbilly at a physics convention. Shell is so clueless it's literally hysterical. I don't think even Lou Holtz would take that job. Fisher isn't going to take a job there. We can find a spot for him here if he wants one. I don't care what stupid title they give him. Assistant to the assistant...whatever. Shanahan and Fisher are friends and he would be an addition. The last thing he needs is another beat down in Oakland to totally throw his career into the dumpster. Walter managed a fantastic 29 rating with the great Moss. I can only hope they bottle Crazy Al's head for the next half century. I can't imagine any legitimate coach that would go there. Art Shell isn't even a legitimate coach. He thinks using motion if for birds. Motion has been used for 40 years. He's nothing but an old school offensive line coach that can't get Gallery to give a rats ass. Great coaching. #2 pick and he's a turnstile. I enjoy rivalries...Kansas City, San Diego can give us a fight or even win. At any rate, I don't really give a RatBird's ass either way. Getting them twice won't make any difference in the division, just the conference. BTW, this is the most talented team Brett Favre has ever had the privelege of playing behind. We will tell you so as soon as he has spinal reconstruction.

10-02-2006, 11:44 PM	#13
NaptownChief Donkeys Nightmare Football Pimp Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,490	I just can't believe old Don't Go Messing Your Pants hasn't been around as he told me he shows up win or "loose".

10-03-2006, 04:25 AM	#14
DeuceOfClub ™ 'Tebow Effect' in full effect Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indian Rocks Beach Posts: 1,115 Adopt-a-Bronco: Aaron Brewer	“What smells like old cheese?” “That’s just Shell” “Oh, that’s just Shell, honey”

10-03-2006, 09:39 AM	#17
Circle Orange SPOT ON. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Styxx, D.C. Posts: 3,956	I never understood Shell going back to coach the Raiders. If an employer kicked me out I sure as hell wouldn't go crawling back (and as a last option at that). He may have had a winning record before, but I think he's probably just a lousy head coach. Something that seems to escape a lot of the pundits out there.