Shameless - The Orange Mane

W*GS · 09-15-2006, 08:35 AM

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2006/09/14/shameless-2/

When will you folks realize that all politicians are scumbags?

Rohirrim · 09-15-2006, 08:43 AM

Well, Frist has certainly proven himself to be a slimeball time and time again (Schiavo, for example). I take it on a case by case basis, but you're right, the overwhelming majority are sleazeballs.

GonzoLays · 09-15-2006, 08:59 AM

If all politicians are scumbags then it could be reasonably inferred that a prevalent trait they all share is the ability to tell lies -- without a conscience -- to the American public. So why should we everbelieve what they tell us? They are, after all, scumbags you know.

W*GS · 09-15-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GonzoLays

So why should we ever believe what they tell us? They are, after all, scumbags you know.

Exactly.

alkemical · 09-15-2006, 09:13 AM

Well wags, what can we do besides hangin's & tar & featherin's.

It's pretty evident our votes don't count.... and well i believe somewhere in the bill of rights/constitution - it's told we can remove the gov't if need be.

I'd hate to use force, i'd rather use say a podcast - but it seems the more you threaten the establishment the more you become a target for those in power -

i mean why or how can i believe anything they say from their policies to their damn reports on what happened on some days.

W*GS · 09-15-2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Well wags, what can we do besides hangin's & tar & featherin's.

Get involved. Use the political process - it still works enough.

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

It's pretty evident our votes don't count....

As if voting every couple of years is the extent of your citizenship.

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

i mean why or how can i believe anything they say from their policies to their damn reports on what happened on some days.

Touche.

alkemical · 09-15-2006, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by W*GS

Get involved. Use the political process - it still works enough.

As if voting every couple of years is the extent of your citizenship.

Touche.

Wags,

Re: Political Process - $omething tell$ me I might not have the clout to make ma$$ive reform$ to the current $tatus quo. The only thing i know how to do Wag$ i$ to do what i do be$t -and that'$ to u$e my broadca$t/media di$tribution $kill$ to create a ripple enough to try to bring the $y$tem down.

Re: Citizen$hip - I pay my taxe$.

W*GS · 09-15-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Re: Political Process - $omething tell$ me I might not have the clout to make ma$$ive reform$ to the current $tatus quo. The only thing i know how to do Wag$ i$ to do what i do be$t -and that'$ to u$e my broadca$t/media di$tribution $kill$ to create a ripple enough to try to bring the $y$tem down.

If you don't like the dollars involved, propose a political finance reform idea that will actually work.

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Re: Citizen$hip - I pay my taxe$.

What else besides paying taxes and voting?

alkemical · 09-15-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by W*GS

If you don't like the dollars involved, propose a political finance reform idea that will actually work.

What else besides paying taxes and voting?

Depends on which 'good american' i am. If i'm a good american for the status quo - i do my part there.

If it's a good american to reduce the tyranny of statist control - i can only inject ideas into those around me to spread what liberty and democracy really are. Beyond that wags, i can only do what i can do. That is use my talents to bring about initiated change into those who welcome it.

loborugger · 09-15-2006, 12:27 PM

Of course, there’s also the naked hypocrisy of exempting state lotteries

It is amazing how when the state is the primary recipient of the proceeds, all the legality problems wash away. I bet Frist wouldnt be against this if we were using our credit cards to buy lottery tickets (they would probably have to be fed lottery tickets thou as state lottos dont give him any $$$) or if the casino was owned by Uncle Sam.

Wasnt it Caligula that funded the Roman debt by hosting a giant orgy? I bet prostitution would no longer be a vice if the Govt was the pimp.

GonzoLays · 09-15-2006, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by loborugger

Wasnt it Caligula that funded the Roman debt by hosting a giant orgy? I bet prostitution would no longer be a vice if the Govt was the pimp.

Bronco_Beerslug · 09-15-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by W*GS

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2006/09/14/shameless-2/

When will you folks realize that all politicians are scumbags?

You just now figuring this out about this radical religious nut?

Smiling Assassin27 · 09-15-2006, 01:14 PM

this just in....water is wet and air is airy...

GonzoLays · 09-15-2006, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

You just now figuring this out about this radical religious nut?

Was Bill Clinton, George Sr., or Ronald Reagan better than this nut? I think not. I cannot remember the last president that didn't sell this country out to some corporation or illogical ideal. The fool in office isn't the first figurehead to sell fear to his constituents to stay in power. The citizens of this country have been terrified of the "boogie man" since Truman...probably before that too.

From Hitler to Stalin to Osama...same trick, works every ****ing time. You think people would catch on by now. Obviously not.

alkemical · 09-15-2006, 08:18 PM

09-15-2006, 08:35 AM	#1
W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,511	Shameless http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2006/09/14/shameless-2/ When will you folks realize that all politicians are scumbags?

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alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,696 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Well wags, what can we do besides hangin's & tar & featherin's. It's pretty evident our votes don't count.... and well i believe somewhere in the bill of rights/constitution - it's told we can remove the gov't if need be. I'd hate to use force, i'd rather use say a podcast - but it seems the more you threaten the establishment the more you become a target for those in power - i mean why or how can i believe anything they say from their policies to their damn reports on what happened on some days. Last edited by alkemical; 09-15-2006 at 09:19 AM..

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09-15-2006, 08:43 AM	#2
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,850	Well, Frist has certainly proven himself to be a slimeball time and time again (Schiavo, for example). I take it on a case by case basis, but you're right, the overwhelming majority are sleazeballs.

09-15-2006, 08:59 AM	#3
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	If all politicians are scumbags then it could be reasonably inferred that a prevalent trait they all share is the ability to tell lies -- without a conscience -- to the American public. So why should we everbelieve what they tell us? They are, after all, scumbags you know.

09-15-2006, 12:27 PM	#10
loborugger lost in the ether Did we finally get a FB??? Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The 'cuse Posts: 5,783 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Of course, there’s also the naked hypocrisy of exempting state lotteries It is amazing how when the state is the primary recipient of the proceeds, all the legality problems wash away. I bet Frist wouldnt be against this if we were using our credit cards to buy lottery tickets (they would probably have to be fed lottery tickets thou as state lottos dont give him any $$$) or if the casino was owned by Uncle Sam. Wasnt it Caligula that funded the Roman debt by hosting a giant orgy? I bet prostitution would no longer be a vice if the Govt was the pimp.

09-15-2006, 01:14 PM	#13
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,983 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	this just in....water is wet and air is airy...