OBL wont be arrested .......

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Press secretary to the president of Pakistan tells ABC Osama bin Laden will not be captured if he agrees to live 'peaceful life'

Ron Brynaert
Published: Tuesday September 5, 2006

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Major General Shaukat Sultan Khan, press secretary to the president of Pakistan, tells ABC News that -- if found -- Osama bin Laden won't be arrested, as long as he promises to behave like a "peaceful citizen."

"If he is in Pakistan, bin Laden 'would not be taken into custody,' Major General Shaukat Sultan Khan told ABC News in a telephone interview, 'as long as one is being like a peaceful citizen," report Brian Ross and Gretchen Peters at ABC's blog, The Blotter.

"No, as long as one is being like a peaceful citizen, one would not be taken into custody," said Khan. "One has to stay like a peaceful citizen and not allowed to participate in any kind of terrorist activity."

"The surprising announcement comes as Pakistani army officials announced they were pulling their troops out of the North Waziristan region as part of a 'peace deal' with the Taliban," reports ABC.

Pakistan will also be returning many Taliban prisoners and seized weapons.

According to VOA, "security experts say Afghan insurgents and remnants of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network have managed to establish several bases in the region."

Earlier today, President Bush cited Pakistan's help in working together "to stop the world's most dangerous men from getting their hands on the world's most dangerous weapons," in a speech on the global war on terror he gave in Washington, D.C. to the Military Officers Association of America.

"Working with Great Britain and Pakistan and other nations, the United States shut down the world's most dangerous nuclear trading cartel, the AQ Khan network," Bush had said. "This network had supplied Iran and Libya and North Korea with equipment and know-how that advanced their efforts to obtain nuclear weapons."

The president also said that "we're working with friends and allies to deny the terrorists the enclaves they seek to establish in ungoverned areas across the world."

Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan, famously known as the "father of Pakistan's nuclear program," was dismissed from his position as Science Adviser to President Musharraf in January of 2004 but was never arrested. A month later, after apologizing to the nation on television, Musharraf pardoned A.Q. Khan.
Reports of al Qaeda in Pakistan

It has recently been reported that al Qaeda's production company, As Sahab, is based in Pakistan.

"Five years after 9/11, Pakistan appears to have replaced Afghanistan as the group's center of gravity," reported CNN. "Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, are widely believed to be in the more remote parts of this country."

"Waziristan is one of the places where bin Laden and al-Zawahiri are thought to have hidden out and where As Sahab produces its work," wrote Henry Schuster for CNN.

Two-and-a-half years ago, after reports surfaced that al-Zawahiri had been "captured or killed" in Pakistan, Shaukat Sultan Khan, then spokesman for the Army, said that nobody could "be confident" about such news.

"It can't be said with certainty who is here and who is not here," said Shaukat Sultan Khan in March of 2004.
ABC'S Report

"In effect, the Pakistani government said today as long as bin Laden and the Taliban promise to behave they can stay in Pakistan and will not be taken into custody," reported Brian Ross on ABC's broadcast Tuesday evening.

ABC noted that the deal with Taliban militants "comes just six months after President Bush said Pakistani President Musharraf was committed to victory against terrorists."

"Mr. President and I reaffirmed our shared commitment to a broad and lasting strategic partnership," Bush had said in a joint press conference with Musharraf held during his March visit to Pakistan. "And that partnership begins with close cooperation in the war on terror."

In that press conference, a reporter asked the president if the United States was "getting the access and the help that it needs to go after al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden."

"The best way to defeat al Qaeda is to find -- is to share good intelligence to locate them, and then to be prepared to bring them to justice," Bush had said.

News that Pakistan will "in effect" leave Osama bin Laden alone if he behaves "peacefully" in the region is certain to cause a stir less than a week before the five-year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Democrats, as well as many Republicans, may characterize Pakistan's stance as going against President Bush's 2001 declaration that nations which harbor terrorists should be considered "hostile."

"Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make," Bush told the world on September 20, 2001. "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."

"From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime," Bush had declared.

After Bush's speech today, Senator John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic Presidential nominee, accused the president of losing "focus" on the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

"Because President Bush lost focus on the killers who attacked us and instead launched a disastrous war in Iraq, today Osama bin Laden and his henchmen still find sanctuary in the no man's land between Afghanistan and Pakistan, where they still plot attacks against America," said Kerry.



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[Spider]

Bush got what he wanted ....... OBL is free and he has his war in Iraq .......and wahts worse is we all saw this comming , but putting party before country was more important ..........

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

Bush got what he wanted ....... OBL is free and he has his war in Iraq .......and wahts worse is we all saw this comming , but putting party before country was more important ..........

Yep.

Without Bin Laden and 9/11, Bush would not have been able to do most of the things the people who purchased him wanted.

Major General Shaukat Sultan Khan, press secretary to the president of Pakistan, tells ABC News that -- if found -- Osama bin Laden won't be arrested, as long as he promises to behave like a "peaceful citizen."

Look for BushCo to reward Pakistan with some more military hardware or technology.

Bin Laden's survival is critical for Bush and the war profiteers who own him.

Bin Laden is the new boogeyman whose purpose is to fill the void left by the ending of the cold war.

[clarker]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Yep.

Without Bin Laden and 9/11, Bush would not have been able to do most of the things the people who purchased him wanted.



Look for BushCo to reward Pakistan with some more military hardware or technology.

Bin Laden's survival is critical for Bush and the war profiteers who own him.

Bin Laden is the new boogeyman whose purpose is to fill the void left by the ending of the cold war.

So you would have dinner with Bin Laden? After all Bush did 9-11 so Bin Laden must be not guilty. Or was it a joint project?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by clarker

So you would have dinner with Bin Laden?

If it's his last meal (because I get to bust a cap in his ass.)

Originally Posted by clarker

After all Bush did 9-11 so Bin Laden must be not guilty.

Another simpleton oversimplification.

It's possible that both parties are complicit in some way or another.

Whether you or I claim this is a fact or not is another story.

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

If it's his last meal (because I get to bust a cap in his ass.)

I certainly wouldn't be willing to do that.

Cleveland Bronco o L.A. Broncos Fan. ¿Quien es más macho?

L.A. Broncos Fan es más macho.

Good thing we have guys like you protecting guys like me. Thanks. Really.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

I certainly wouldn't be willing to that.

I never doubted that for a minute.

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Good thing we have guys like you protecting guys like me. Thanks. Really.

And the pattern continues...

[ClevelandBronco]

Ah, the pattern. Thanks for reminding us of the pattern. We might have have overlooked it otherwise.

What's up?

Did you turn into Mock in the last day or so?

[Stuck In Texas]

Pakistan is denying the OBL report.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=2398972

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Stuck In Texas

Pakistan is denying the OBL report.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=2398972

Damage control ...........

[Stuck In Texas]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

Damage control ...........

That's possible. It's possible that this article was inaccurate. Of course, it's just as possible that the first article is the one that's inaccurate.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Stuck In Texas

That's possible. It's possible that this article was inaccurate. Of course, it's just as possible that the first article is the one that's inaccurate.

Well, one thing is fairly certain already:

Bin Laden has been holed up in Pakistan for over four years now, and the Pakistani government hasn't done squat about it.

And, as far as I can tell, Bush hasn't put any pressure on Pakistan to do anything about it.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Well, one thing is fairly certain already:

Bin Laden has been holed up in Pakistan for over four years now, and the Pakistani government hasn't done squat about it.

And, as far as I can tell, Bush hasn't put any pressure on Pakistan to do anything about it.

This I agree with this 1000%!!!!! How in the hell can the most wanted scumbag in the entire world not be captured or killed when his location is known within a few hundred square miles?

[Stuck In Texas]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Well, one thing is fairly certain already:

Bin Laden has been holed up in Pakistan for over four years now, and the Pakistani government hasn't done squat about it.

And, as far as I can tell, Bush hasn't put any pressure on Pakistan to do anything about it.

Yeah, I agree. It's very frustrating! I read somewhere that the Pakistani government doesn't have any real control over the area they think he's in. As a westerner, it's hard for me to imagine a government being afraid to go into a certain area of its own country. That's one country that scares me because they supposedly have nukes and a VERY radical populace.

I agree that President Bush doesn't seem to be pressuring the Pakistanis. I wish one of our governments would just overwhelm the area and pull bin Laden out by his testicles.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

This I agree with this 1000%!!!!! How in the hell can the most wanted scumbag in the entire world not be captured or killed when his location is known within a few hundred square miles?

Exactly.

Funny how Bush's supporters (the few who are left) don't seem to have a problem with this.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Stuck In Texas

Yeah, I agree. It's very frustrating! I read somewhere that the Pakistani government doesn't have any real control over the area they think he's in. As a westerner, it's hard for me to imagine a government being afraid to go into a certain area of its own country. That's one country that scares me because they supposedly have nukes and a VERY radical populace.

I agree that President Bush doesn't seem to be pressuring the Pakistanis. I wish one of our governments would just overwhelm the area and pull bin Laden out by his testicles.

Bush just gave the Pakistanis some American-made fighter jets recently.

He could have at least tried to use them as a carrot, if you know what I mean,

[Stuck In Texas]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Bush just gave the Pakistanis some American-made fighter jets recently.

He could have at least tried to use them as a carrot, if you know what I mean,

I wasn't aware of the fighter deal. That's a tricky diplomatic region for the U.S. since we have fairly friendly ties with both Pakistan and India. I sincerely hope that there were some caveats tied to that plane sale.

[clarker]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Bush just gave the Pakistanis some American-made fighter jets recently.

He could have at least tried to use them as a carrot, if you know what I mean,

Wow, something we agree on.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Stuck In Texas

That's possible. It's possible that this article was inaccurate. Of course, it's just as possible that the first article is the one that's inaccurate.

actions speak louder then words ........ 4 years and nothing .............

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

actions speak louder then words ........ 4 years and nothing .............

Aid and Comfort: The New Bush-bin Laden Alliance

Is anyone really surprised at this? Bush has never had the slightest intention of catching Osama bin Laden. He needs bin Laden like he needs air or water. Without bin Laden, he is nothing. Without bin Laden, he wouldn't be a "War President" wielding dictatorial powers over a cowed, confused nation. Without bin Laden -- whom Bush has now taken to quoting as an expert on world affairs -- the Potomac pipsqueak would be just another failed, one-term president named George Bush, a national joke, a trivia quiz answer, a half-forgotten goober ridiculed for a feckless reign that made Jimmy Carter look like Bismarck. Without bin Laden, Bush never would have had the chance to seal his prejudices and inadequacies in the blood of tens of thousands of innocent people. How could he ever give up bin Laden, who gave him his truest self? Bush is bin Laden, bin Laden is Bush: they gaze at each other lovingly across the smoldering ruins of cities and the festering pits of mass graves, and whisper tenderly one to the other: "You complete me."

These truces have freed up al Qaeda and Taliban forces now sheltering in North and South Waziristan to kill Americans, Brits, Canadians -- and scores of Afghans. Yet the Bush Administration fully backs these measures -- indeed, they're kicking in untold millions of dollars to the bribes Musharaff is paying to the extremists to keep them sweep. And certainly, no one should -- or could -- believe the "assurances" that the Waziristan warlords will no longer give haven to their brethren. In any case, if the Pakistani military pulls back, how will anybody know who is being sheltered where? And anyway, the Pakistanis say that foreign fighters -- including bin Laden specifically -- are welcome to stay in the region if they are being "peaceful citizens." The assurances are a face-saving sham.

What we have here, unambiguously is this: the Bush Administration has cut a deal with al Qaeda and its allies. If they play ball with Bush's pet military dictator, Musharaff -- whose throne is growing shakier by the day (I'll be writing more on this soon) -- why then, they're free to rampage in Afghanistan and build jihadi brownie points by killing Americans and other assorted infidels. This is as plain as day. Bush has kowtowed to the very people he says attacked America on 9/11 -- and not only kowtowed, but collaborated with them in killing more Americans.

In a land ruled by law and reason, a land where morality had any purchase at all, Bush would be sitting in a jail cell tonight, awaiting trial for high treason, terrorism and conspiracy to commit murder.

Instead, he'll be prancing around the country, taking out his little bin Laden rag doll and shaking at it the crowds to give them a big scare. But you know that when he goes to bed tonight, he'll give that little doll a kiss and snuggle it tight under the covers.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/

Bin Laden Gets a Pass from Pakistan (ABC)

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...den_gets_.html

Pakistan signs pact with pro-Taleban militants (New Zealand Herald)

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...den_gets_.html

[gunns]

Originally Posted by clarker

So you would have dinner with Bin Laden? After all Bush did 9-11 so Bin Laden must be not guilty. Or was it a joint project?

Without Bin Laden running around Bush's fear tactics would take a serious hit. What else would he use to control his sheep?

[clarker]

Originally Posted by gunns

Without Bin Laden running around Bush's fear tactics would take a serious hit. What else would he use to control his sheep?

A shepard?

[mosca]

Originally Posted by Stuck In Texas

That's a tricky diplomatic region for the U.S. since we have fairly friendly ties with both Pakistan and India.

This is where we've gone wrong... The U.S. should offer more support to a nation such as India, instead of Pakistan, if we're truly against the rise of Islamic extremism in that area. Who'll take over the country if Musharaff is overthrown? Not anyone friendly to our likes.

[mhgaffney]

Originally Posted by mosca

This is where we've gone wrong... The U.S. should offer more support to a nation such as India, instead of Pakistan, if we're truly against the rise of Islamic extremism in that area. Who'll take over the country if Musharaff is overthrown? Not anyone friendly to our likes.

Mosco: Are you aware that Bush signed a nuclear treaty with India last year The whole thing stinks. Check out this article to learn why.

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article13590.htm

I saw an interview today on DEMOCRACY NOW with Robert Fisk, who's covered the Mideast for the Independent for many years. Fisk thinks Pakistan is about to explode -- not Iran or Syria.

He is probably right. Musharraf is between a rock and a hard place. Pakistan's intelligence agency ISI has been supporting the Taliban from the beginning -- and also bin Laden. The ISI intel chief was responsible for $100,000 sent to the alleged 911 hijackers. Yet the 911 Commission never checked this out -- one of many things they didn't check out.

I read a piece -- can't recall where -- that the US has contingency plans to invade Pakistan and sieze the country's nuclear arsenal if Musharraf falls. Again, I wouldn't be surprised.

Difficult days ahead.

[Rohirrim]

Does anybody else find it ridiculous that one of the chief weapons in the standard right wing diatribe is the one where Clinton had numerous chances to take Bin Laden out and turned down every one of them - but when it comes to Dubya saying that Bin Laden is "no longer important" they go dead quiet?