Elways comebacks: Talk about a long read!

[Atlas]

Mr. Comeback


July 29, 2004
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eClass of 2004 John Elway had one of the most illustrious careers of any quarterback in National Football League history. He was selected by the Baltimore Colts as the first player overall in the 1983 NFL Draft and was later traded to the Denver Broncos.


Sixteen seasons later, he capped his Hall of Fame career by not only leading the Broncos to their second straight Super Bowl victory but by also earning the game's Most Valuable Player honor. Elway completed 18 of 29 passes for 336 yards and threw one touchdown as well as scored another touchdown on the ground as Denver beat the Atlanta Falcons, 34-19 in Super Bowl XXXIII.

While his swan song in the NFL was of storybook fashion, his proclivity for leading the Broncos from behind throughout his career was simply magical. Elway chalked up a record 47 fourth quarter come-from-behind comebacks during his pro career. Of those 47 last minute heroics by Elway, the Broncos scored the winning points 21 times under two minutes and 13 times with less than one minute left in the game.

"The thing that was so impressive was the concentration level and poise and thriving on pressure," commented Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan on the comebacks.

John Elway’s Fourth Quarter Comebacks
(Source: Denver Broncos)

Dec. 11, 1983 vs. Baltimore — Throws three fourth-quarter TD passes, the last a 26-yarder to Gerald Willhite with 0:44 left in 21-19 win.

Nov. 4, 1984 vs. New England — Directs 8-play, 78-yard drive for seven-yard TD pass to Butch Johnson with 4:03 left to tie score at 19-19; Dennis Smith returns a fumble 64 yards for TD with 1:45 left in a 26-19 win.

Nov. 11, 1984 at San Diego — Directs 10-play, 77-yard drive for Sammy Winder one-yard TD run with 0:38 left in 16-13 win.

Dec. 9, 1984 vs. San Diego — Directs 12-play, 40-yard drive for Rich Karlis field goal with 2:08 left in 16-13 win.

Sept. 22, 1985 at Atlanta — Directs three scoring drives (two TDs, one FG) in fourth quarter, erasing 28-27 deficit, in 44-28 win.

Nov. 11, 1985 vs. San Francisco — Directs 9-play, 63-yard drive for Rich Karlis 24-yard field goal with 1:27 left in 17-16 win.

Nov. 17, 1985 vs. San Diego — Directs 7-play, 48-yard drive for Rich Karlis 34-yard field goal with 0:05 left to tie San Diego; Denver wins 30-24 on Louis Wright’s 60-yard TD return of a blocked field goal in OT.

Dec. 1, 1985 at Pittsburgh — Directs 7-play, 58-yard drive for Steve Sewell two-yard TD run with 1:45 left, taking a 24-23 lead; Mike Harden returns an interception 42 yards for a score for 31-23 win.

Dec. 14, 1985 vs. Kansas City — Directs 8-play, 59-yard drive for Sammy Winder one-yard TD run with 0:22 left in 14-13 win.

Dec. 20, 1985 at Seattle — Directs 8-play, 80-yard drive for Steve Sewell one-yard run to tie game at 24-24 with 2:35 remaining; then passes for 27 yards to start a five-play, 34-yard drive (Gary Kubiak takes over when Elway is injured) for a Rich Karlis 43-yard field goal with 0:55 remaining in 27-24 win.

Sept. 7, 1986 vs. L.A. Raiders — Directs 9-play, 39-yard drive for seven-yard pass to Gene Lang with 5:11 left in 38-36 win.

Jan. 11, 1987 at Cleveland (AFC Championship Game) — Directs 15-play, 98-yard drive for five-yard TD pass to Mark Jackson with 0:39 left to tie game 20-20; in Denver’s first OT possession, directs 60-yard drive for Rich Karlis 33-yard FG in 23-20 win.

Sept. 20, 1987 at Green Bay — Directs 18-play, 80-yard drive for Steve Sewell one-yard run with 5:53 remaining to tie game at 17-17; game ends in an overtime tie.

Nov. 16, 1987 vs. Chicago — Directs 8-play, 61-yard drive for Steve Sewell four-yard TD run with 4:58 left in 31-29 win.

Dec. 6, 1987 vs. New England — Directs 6-play, 74-yard drive for two-yard TD pass to Mark Jackson with 12:41 left for 24-20 lead; Mark Haynes later returns an interception for 14 yards and a score in 31-20 win.

Jan. 17, 1988 vs. Cleveland (AFC Championship Game) — Directs 5-play, 75-yard drive for 20-yard TD pass to Sammy Winder with 4:01 left for 38-31 lead; after safety and Ernest Byner fumble, Denver wins 38-33.

Oct. 9, 1988 at San Francisco — Directs 9-play, 58-yard drive for eight-yard TD pass to Vance Johnson with 8:37 left to tie game 13-13; Broncos win in overtime when Steve Wilson’s interception sets up Rich Karlis 22-yard field goal 8:11 into overtime.

Oct. 8, 1989 vs. San Diego — Directs 11-play, 74-yard drive for Bobby Humphrey 17-yard TD run with 1:03 left in 16-10 win.

Oct. 22, 1989 at Seattle — Throws 54-yard TD pass to Vance Johnson with 2:19 left (only play of drive) to tie game 21-21; Dennis Smith interception sets up David Treadwell’s 27-yard field goal at 7:14 of OT for 24-21 win.

Nov. 12, 1989 at Kansas City — Directs 10-play, 72-yard drive for David Treadwell 26-yard FG with 0:01 left in 16-13 win.
Jan. 7, 1990 vs. Pittsburgh (AFC Divisional Playoff) — Directs 9-play, 71-yard drive for Melvin Bratton one-yard run with 2:27 left in 24-23 win.

Sept. 17, 1990 vs. Kansas City — Directs 10-play, 79-yard drive for David Treadwell 22-yard FG with 0:00 left for 24-23 win.

Oct. 21, 1990 at Indianapolis — Directs 9-play, 58-yard drive for David Treadwell 42-yard FG to break tie with 3:45 left; then directs five-play, 56-yard drive for Steve Sewell two-yard run with 1:41 left in 27-17 win.

Oct. 20, 1991 vs. Kansas City — Directs 7-play, 70-yard drive for David Treadwell 27-yard field goal with 2:37 left in 19-16 win.

Oct. 27, 1991 at New England — Directs 9-play, 42-yard drive for David Treadwell 34-yard field goal with 1:56 left in 9-6 win.

Dec. 8, 1991 at Cleveland — Directs 16-play, 64-yard drive for six-yard TD pass to Vance Johnson with 8:54 left to break 7-7 tie; then directs six-play, 66-yard drive for David Treadwell 37-yard field goal with 3:29 remaining in 17-7 win.

Dec. 15, 1991 vs. Phoenix — Directs 6-play, 66-yard drive for Elway’s four-yard TD run with 1:46 left in 24-19 win.

Jan. 4, 1992 vs. Houston (AFC Divisional Playoff) — Directs 12-play, 87-yard drive for David Treadwell 28-yard field goal with 0:20 left in 26-24 win.

Sept. 6, 1992 vs. L.A. Raiders — Directs 7-play, 85-yard drive for Reggie Rivers one-yard TD run with 0:55 left in 17-13 win.

Oct. 4, 1992 vs. Kansas City — Directs 14-play, 80-yard drive for 25-yard pass to Mark Jackson with 1:55 left to pull Denver within six points at 19-13; after a 28-yard punt return, directs a three-play, 27-yard drive for a 12-yard TD pass to Vance Johnson with 0:38 left in 20-19 win.

Oct. 18, 1992 vs. Houston — Directs 3-play, 80-yard drive for Reggie Rivers’ 20-yard TD run with 1:34 left in 27-21 win.

Dec. 12, 1993 vs. Kansas City — Directs three-play, 11-yard drive for six-yard TD pass to Shannon Sharpe with 10:34 left in 27-21 win.

Oct. 23, 1994 at San Diego — Directs 4-play, four-yard drive to set up Jason Elam’s 54-yard field goal with 10:02 remaining that put Denver ahead 17-15; then directed a nine-play, 66-yard drive to set up Elam for a 25-yard field goal that provided the final score of 20-15 with 4:07 remaining.

Nov. 20, 1994 vs. Atlanta — Directs 10-play, 73-yard drive for 32-yard TD pass to Anthony Miller to pull Denver within 28-25 with 10:19 remaining; then drove the Broncos 57 yards in 10 plays, capping the drive with a four-yard TD run to put Denver ahead to stay 32-28 with 1:56 remaining.

Sept. 17, 1995 vs. Washington — Directs 8-play, 80-yard drive that culminated with a 43-yard TD strike to Rod Smith on the final play of the game (play started at 0:06), breaking a 31-31 tie and giving Denver a 38-31 win. The drive began on the Broncos’ 20-yard line with 1:07 remaining.

Nov. 19, 1995 vs. San Diego — Directs 7-play, 53-yard drive to set up Jason Elam’s game-wining 32-yard field goal, breaking a 27-27 tie, and lifting Denver to a 30-27 win. The drive began on the Broncos’ 33-yard line with 3:43 remaining.

Dec. 24, 1995 at Oakland — Directs 12-play, 79-yard drive to set up Jason Elam’s 27-yard field goal to pull Denver to within 28-20 with 12:47 remaining; then drove the Broncos 87 yards in 13 plays, culminating with a four-yard TD pass to Ed McCaffrey — on which Elway ran in for the two-point conversion — to tie the score at 28-28 with 5:46 remaining; then drove 53 yards in nine plays to set up Elam’s game-winning 37-yard field goal with 0:48 remaining, giving Denver the 31-28 victory.

Sept. 15, 1996 vs. Tampa Bay — Directs 14-play, 80-yard drive over an 8:11 span, capped by Terrell Davis’ three-yard run with 3:32 remaining, giving Denver a 27-23 win.

Oct. 20, 1996 vs. Baltimore — Directs 10-play, 57-yard yard drive in 4:31, culminating with a 6-yard touchdown pass to Ed McCaffrey, to put Denver ahead 38-34 with 10:57 remaining. He later led the club 15 yards in three plays, capped by his own 9-yard touchdown run with 1:16 remaining, to provide the final margin of 45-34.

Nov. 4, 1996 at Oakland — Directs 6-play, 73-yard drive over a 47-second span, culminating with a 49-yard touchdown pass to Rod Smith with 4:14 remaining to erase a 21-16 Raiders lead and lift Denver to a 22-21 win.

Nov. 24, 1996 at Minnesota — Directs 11-play, 84-yard drive in 5:02, capped by a five-yard touchdown pass to Ed McCaffrey with 19 seconds remaining that was tipped three times by Vikings defenders, to give Denver a 21-17 win.

Oct. 26, 1997 at Buffalo — Directs 9-play, 43-yards drive in 4:47 during overtime to set up a 33-yard Jason Elam field goal with 1:56 remaining on the clock, giving Denver a 23-20 win.

Nov. 2, 1997 vs. Seattle — Directs 8-play, 69-yard drive in 4:34 to set up a 22-yard Jason Elam field goal with 7:28 remaining, breaking a 27-27 tie and giving Denver a 30-27 win.

Jan. 4, 1998 at Kanas City (AFC Divisional Playoff) — Directs 6-play, 49-yard drive in 2:38, capped by a 1-yard Terrell Davis touchdown run with 12:32 remaining to give Denver a 14-10 AFC Divisional Playoff victory. Key to the drive was Elway’s 43-yard strike to Ed McCaffrey that set up the Broncos at the Chiefs’ 1-yard line.

Jan. 25, 1998 vs. Green Bay (Super Bowl XXXII) — Directs 5-play, 49-yard drive in 1:42, culminating in a 1-yard Terrell Davis touchdown run with 1:45 remaining to break a 24-24 tie and give Denver a 31-24 win to claim its first World Championship. Key to the drive was a screen pass to fullback Howard Griffith that covered 23 yards and put Denver at the Green Bay 8-yard line.

Nov. 1, 1998 at Cincinnati — Directs 5-play, 53-yard drive in 1:56, culminating in a 5-yard Terrell Davis touchdown run with 58 seconds remaining to break a 26-26 tie and give Denver a 33-26 win. Key to the drive was a 38-yard kickoff return by Vaughn Hebron to stake the Broncos with good field position.

Dec. 6, 1998 vs. Kansas City — Directs 5-play, 50-yard drive in 2:39, capped by a 24-yard touchdown pass to Shannon Sharpe with 3:34 remaining to give Denver a 35-31 lead that would hold up for the win — Denver’s 13th in a row to begin the season (tied for second-best all-time) and 18th in a row overall, dating back to the 1997 season (tied for the longest streak in NFL history, regular and postseason combined).

[Atlas]

Nov. 16, 1987 vs. Chicago — Directs 8-play, 61-yard drive for Steve Sewell four-yard TD run with 4:58 left in 31-29 win.

Best Game ever

[ozomulsion]

Jake has a long list also. To bad non were in the playoffs. I remember teams scoring at will on our old D and Elway would just keep answering back. It wore teams down until the energy of the game shifted to both our offense and Defense. What a privlige to have benn able to witness it all.

[Atlas]

Originally Posted by ozomulsion

Jake has a long list also. To bad non were in the playoffs. I remember teams scoring at will on our old D and Elway would just keep answering back. It wore teams down until the energy of the game shifted to both our offense and Defense. What a privlige to have benn able to witness it all.

That's what seperates Elway from Marino. Marino was a playoff Dud.

[Los Broncos]

#7 best there ever was!

[TheChamp247]

elway was, and will always will be rembered for giving the broncos recongnition and respect

[RhymesayersDU]

Originally Posted by Atlas

Nov. 24, 1996 at Minnesota — Directs 11-play, 84-yard drive in 5:02, capped by a five-yard touchdown pass to Ed McCaffrey with 19 seconds remaining that was tipped three times by Vikings defenders, to give Denver a 21-17 win.

I remember this pass. It was cool, although Elway shouldn't have thrown it. I guess that's what happens when you're one of the greatest. Even your bad passes end up winners.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by Atlas

That's what seperates Elway from Marino. Marino was a playoff Dud.

If you want to be really HONEST ... until the last 14 months of his career, Elway was also a playoff dud.

We remember "The Drive" and the last two Super Bowls ... but what about when he "got sick" vs. Buffalo in the AFC Ch-Ship game in 91 .... Kubiak played well, but we lost by just 3 ... and Pittsburgh in 84? Pitt was an 8-8 or 9-7 team vs. 13-3 Den @ Mile High .... and what about Jax in 96? Maybe not his fault, but along with the 84 Steelers loss, it was THE WORST playoff upset almost ever. And .... sorry, but there's always the first three SBs.

I'm just sayin'

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Alot of low scoring games...sounds like Elway was just making up for dicking around earlier in the game. Like Plummer in Arizona.

[Circle Orange]

My personal favorites? The last play against the redskins, over Darrell Green (another HOFer) to the then unknown Rod Smith.

the shake and bake, then touchdown pass to Shannon when they went 12-0 vs the chargers. Shanny was beaming on the sidelines, like, "Duh?" and goofy Bubby was dancing and hugging everybody. John ran around for like 8 seconds.

Another fav: the cross the field touchdown pass against KC. Marty Shotzy dropped his head on the sidelines.

And the play against Seattle where he ducked under a blitzing linebacker and threw the touchdown pass to Sharpe...

dude was a freak. Plain and simple. Other qbs may compare to him, but he doesn't compare to anybody. Tells you all you need to know.

[Circle Orange]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

If you want to be really HONEST ... until the last 14 months of his career, Elway was also a playoff dud.

We remember "The Drive" and the last two Super Bowls ... but what about when he "got sick" vs. Buffalo in the AFC Ch-Ship game in 91 .... Kubiak played well, but we lost by just 3 ... and Pittsburgh in 84? Pitt was an 8-8 or 9-7 team vs. 13-3 Den @ Mile High .... and what about Jax in 96? Maybe not his fault, but along with the 84 Steelers loss, it was THE WORST playoff upset almost ever. And .... sorry, but there's always the first three SBs.

I'm just sayin'

Elway got a charley horse in that game and could barely walk. Pittsburgh he was basically a rook, getting playoff experience. They screwed up against the Jags, and still nearly pulled it off. Shanny blamed himself for resting so many starters late in the season, costing the team their edge. Bottom line, Marino was 8-10 in the playoffs, with no signature games. He kept losing to Jim Kelly's Bills (like 3 times) in the playoffs. He only won one AFC championship game. Elway was 14-7 with a 5-1 AFC championship game record. (the only one he lost he didn't finish) I loved Marino too, but his game didn't have the dimension he needed, and something about his personality didn't inspire the same way in the playoffs. Talent wise, he's the nearest thing to John I've seen, despite the style being different. But once his achilles busted, and he had the damaged nerve in his throwing shoulder happened, he was DONE. And the 62-7 Jacksonville blowout was his sendoff.

Funny how the Jags influenced both guys. One for the better, one for the worse.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by Circle Orange

Talent wise, he's the nearest thing to John I've seen, despite the style being different.

That raises interesting questions ... about how you rank great QBs. I always say there are TWO areas:

1) - Physical skill and talent
2) - Leadership, competitive and winning ability

For example, Jeff George has the best arm I ever saw - really. Elway and others throw bullets, sure, but George's passes seemed to actually gain speed as they flew threw the air. 35 yards on a very low, level arc that seemed to defy gravity. Velocity like nobody I ever saw excvept maybe Randall Cunningham (and maybe Kordell). But George is a miscreant scumbucket, Randall prolly couldn't pass a GED test, and Kordell's teammates thought he was ... well ....

On the other end of the spectrum is Doug Flutie. Every treammate loved him to death - and would walk thru fire with him. But physically, skills-wise, he just wasn't there.

The REALLY great ones have both ... Elway, Young, Montana, Marino, Staubach, Bradshaw ....

Actually, truth be told, to gain the stature of these guys, you have to be almost psychotically competitive. The "desire to win," the FIRE you need, is probably a sort of character flaw in society. Guys like Dan Reeves and Mike Ditka - playing "bloody knuckles" until they broke their fingers ... Elway got rid of a $15,000 pool table after he lost on it ... and don't kid yourself: Elway HATED Marino the first decade of their careers for the numbers he put up. There's some bad blood with Elway and other guys ... Steve Deberg talked about it once.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

On the other end of the spectrum is Doug Flutie. Every treammate loved him to death - and would walk thru fire with him. But physically, skills-wise, he just wasn't there.

Just the opposite. Flutie divided alot of locker rooms. That's why he was banished to Canada for a decade.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Just the opposite. Flutie divided alot of locker rooms. That's why he was banished to Canada for a decade.

That's a foolish thing to say. Who, exactly, metes out such "banishments," Bob? The league office?

Which of the 5 or 6 NFL teams he played for (some he did 2 tours with) did he divide?

[Killericon]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Just the opposite. Flutie divided alot of locker rooms. That's why he was banished to Canada for a decade.

First I've heard of this.

[Bob's your Information Minister]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

That's a foolish thing to say. Who, exactly, metes out such "banishments," Bob? The league office?

Which of the 5 or 6 NFL teams he played for (some he did 2 tours with) did he divide?

It was a figure of speech. No one wanted him because he was a marginal talent and he was a jerk in the locker room.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

... but what about when he "got sick" vs. Buffalo in the AFC Ch-Ship game in 91

So it's Elway's fault that David Treadwell missed field goals from 37, 42 & 47 yards? Gotcha.

[Spider]

Nov. 4, 1996 at Oakland — Directs 6-play, 73-yard drive over a 47-second span, culminating with a 49-yard touchdown pass to Rod Smith with 4:14 remaining to erase a 21-16 Raiders lead and lift Denver to a 22-21 win.

one of the best regular season games of all time , When Elway dipped into the magic , all te Raiders could do was watch ........you could see the agony of defeat take every raiders face .and we was in thier house .......

Jan. 4, 1992 vs. Houston (AFC Divisional Playoff) — Directs 12-play, 87-yard drive for David Treadwell 28-yard field goal with 0:20 left in 26-24 win.

3 rd best playoff game of Elways career converting 4th downs ......

[Circle Orange]

Does anyone remember the Raiders game that was some kind of wild shootout, like 31-30? Art Shell was the coach, and wanted Elway on the sidelines so they could 'get control of the game'. Every time the raiders scored on a long drive, Elway would lead a quick strike. Shell finally had enough, resorting to the running game to keep #7 off the field. There were LOTS of fights and penalties (the game was at the Raiders). Dennis Smith was still playing, I remember. May have been around '94 or '95, not sure. I don't remember who won, but it sure was entertaining! Pushing and shoving, refs falling down in piles...it was wild. Raiders and Broncos taking cheap shots, flags flying.

I've been trying to get that game from someone, if they have it.

Oh, on the subject of "Boy George" and his arm. Yeah, it was remarkable. As long as he could stand STOCK STILL, be untouched, and hurl it. But this guy made Bledsoe look like a scrambler, and he could not get the same velocity on the move, or across his body (couldn't hit a hippo's ass once he was forced from the pocket). I saw dude up close when he was in dc...total loser. Said 'leadership was overrated'. Had NOTHING at all except the arm. No instincts, no charisma, no leadership ability, and only average durability, and no athleticism. Guess how much he inspired? In one game, a defensive lineman dragged his sorry butt across the field in the mud after sacking him. Not ONE teammate went out there to help, or even got close enough to see. It was on the cover of the Washington Post. Beautiful. He looked like a drowned rat pulled from the river.

Forget the 'Elway Cross?' so soon? And ask the Bills about #7s arm...in a 'throwback uniform' game Monday night vs Buffalo, he nearly knocked out 2 defenders who tried to intercept his passes (they failed). although John was lucky they weren't picks, they were pretty dumb throws. They were simply thrown too hard to be intercepted, richocheting off face masks. (I have this game on tape, btw).

One of the defenders was a pro bowler by the name of Cornelius Bennett. Dude dived to intercept a laser, it bounced off his helmet. He got up shaking his head.

[Rock Chalk]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

That's a foolish thing to say. Who, exactly, metes out such "banishments," Bob? The league office?

Which of the 5 or 6 NFL teams he played for (some he did 2 tours with) did he divide?

Get Slap's opinion on Flutie. It's a treat.

[Dutch]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Alot of low scoring games...sounds like Elway was just making up for dicking around earlier in the game. Like Plummer in Arizona.

Once again, Boob. You are a rock. John was playing for one of the most consevative coaches in the NFL, Dan Reeves. Mr. "run left-run right-run up the middle-punt" for three and a half quarters, then turn Elway loose for the win at the end of the game. I know Bob, I was there. My Dad used to blow a friggin' gasket every Sunday over Reeves play calling.

Dutch

[jsco70]

What I like best about the Elway Comeback List is the fact I witnessed either in person or on TV every single game. I was very fortunate to have grown-up during the Elway era. Hopefully Culter will go on his own 15 year run.

My all-time favorite comeback stands alone. Without a doubt, the greatest Elway comeback was the Houston playoff game in 1992. Broncos were had less time and farther to go than the Drive and faced to HUGE fourth downs. When Treadwell hit the kick I swear Mile High stadium had never been louder, or crazier in the history of Denver. Okay, maybe in 1977.

Great list and thanks for posting. Reading it brought back some great memories.

[Sgt Sauce]

ahhh, the memories!!

[Tom G]

Originally Posted by jsco70

What I like best about the Elway Comeback List is the fact I witnessed either in person or on TV every single game. I was very fortunate to have grown-up during the Elway era. Hopefully Culter will go on his own 15 year run.

My all-time favorite comeback stands alone. Without a doubt, the greatest Elway comeback was the Houston playoff game in 1992. Broncos were had less time and farther to go than the Drive and faced to HUGE fourth downs. When Treadwell hit the kick I swear Mile High stadium had never been louder, or crazier in the history of Denver. Okay, maybe in 1977.

Great list and thanks for posting. Reading it brought back some great memories.

Amen to that. Of all the Bronco games I've seen (season ticket holder since '62), that's the most exciting one in my opinion. The electricity in the stadium in the last few seconds and after the final gun is still fixed in my memory. Elway at his finest.

[B-Love]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Dan Reeves. Mr. "run left-run right-run up the middle-punt" for three and a half quarters, then turn Elway loose for the win at the end of the game. I know Bob, I was there. Dutch

LMAO!! What a ridiculous take. Man, I can't believe people still write this embarrassing nonsense.

Especially people who say they "were there".