Dead rumor via Anthony Gargano of WIP Radio in Philly - The Orange Mane

eagles nut · 08-21-2006, 08:31 PM

WR Ashley Lelie and RB Tatum Bell

for DT Darwin Walker, RB Ryan Moats, and 5th round pick

Don't know if he's just saying it's being discussed or if it will happen.

I'll try to find out more.

Atlas · 08-21-2006, 08:33 PM

Take it!!!!!!

I think Denver should get a 3rd instead of a 5th however.

GonzoLays · 08-21-2006, 08:34 PM

I feel an erection coming on.

Garcia Bronco · 08-21-2006, 08:35 PM

(GABLE!) SOLD! To the man witht he **** eating grin.

Atlas · 08-21-2006, 08:36 PM

Walker automatically starts next to Warren. He is a very solid DT and has about 25 sacks or so in his career.

watermock · 08-21-2006, 08:36 PM

NO. Not BOTH players unless Walker is some beast. Moats is 5.8 and Walker's stats have gone down since 02-03 every year. He's also under 300 pounds.

Garcia Bronco · 08-21-2006, 08:37 PM

It should be a 4th round pick because....ahh Tatum is a beast.

Garcia Bronco · 08-21-2006, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

(GABLE!) SOLD! To the man witht he **** eating grin.

or is it gavel? You know...after all those years of watching Night Court....I should know this.

freak6 · 08-21-2006, 08:40 PM

Hell no. Ashley is worth more than Walker, and Moats for Tatum isn't close either. The pick should be a 2nd round. Moats wouldn't displace Nash let alone Bell or Cobbs.

watermock · 08-21-2006, 08:42 PM

That's not a trade, it's a fire sale. We don't need Moats. Maybe for Walker and a third. If we have our own fire sale backs, that's fine. MB, Nash and Cobbs, all off the street might turn the trick, but that trade doesn't have much value. When Sapp gets healthy, he can play tailback in a pinch as well.

Dedhed · 08-21-2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

or is it gavel? You know...after all those years of watching Night Court....I should know this.

I'm pretty sure it's gavel, but either way you got the important part right: SOLD!!!!!

Garcia Bronco · 08-21-2006, 08:48 PM

I just don't think Ashley gets traded. He just doesn't have any value, because whomever would have to want him long term, and why would anyone pay him when he's a trouble maker

Garcia Bronco · 08-21-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedhed

I'm pretty sure it's gavel, but either way you got the important part right: SOLD!!!!!

Btw man...what's your favorite show?

plummershelper · 08-21-2006, 08:49 PM

Moats has been talked about as being on the fringe lately in Philly. Thats like us trading Lelie and Dayne for Kearse and Westbrook. Well maybe not that bad, but it's them trading a weak 5th, a smallish fumble prone rb on the bubble, and a DT on the decline ready to be replaced by a 1st round pick. Sounds like too much convenience for the eagles. I would however take Lelie and Bell for Walker and Trent Cole and a 5th. Both immediately upgrade the Dline while Philly gets 2 offensive game breakers. The deal, as earlier written, would be a fleecing of redskin proportions.

BroncoMatt · 08-21-2006, 08:49 PM

as much as I want Ashley to go to philly, adding Tatum is too much. I'll trust my adopt a bronco to do the right thing

GonzoLays · 08-21-2006, 08:50 PM

Who could be against this trade? We are trading a guy who will never suit up for us and a backup runningback for a starting DT. Where do I sign up?

broncogary · 08-21-2006, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eagles nut

I'll try to find out more.

Exactly how big is an eagle's nut?

Rock Chalk · 08-21-2006, 08:52 PM

Thank God this is just a rumor.

We dont need another rotational DT and a fumble prone RB. A 5th round pick? Are you kidding me?

This deal blows in every way imaginable. I wouldnt give Lelie alone for both those castoffs and the 5th much less Tatum included.

WABronco · 08-21-2006, 08:53 PM

I'm opposed to trading Tatum, but if we can get a solid DT in return I may consider it.

Moats would give us a legit change-of-pace threat, which is all that Tatum has shown he can be to this point (albeit a very good one). If Mike Bell is entrenched as the starter--which he's very much on his way to doing--then perhaps it's in the team's best interest to use one of our RB assets to spread more talent to areas of greater need.

Just off the top of my head, I'd say Walker is a similar player to Demetrin Veal...quick, disruptor type. He's a nice player...

In all honesty though, I don't see Shanny making this deal. I think he would much rather prefer to trade Lelie alone, but that obviously depends on his opinion of Tatum's potential in this system. I think I'll trust Shanny's judgement either way...

Rock Chalk · 08-21-2006, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoLays

Who could be against this trade? We are trading a guy who will never suit up for us and a backup runningback for a starting DT. Where do I sign up?

A rotational DT. He is no better than the depth we already have. As for the "backup RB" bit, Tatum will see a hell of a lot more carries this year for someone than Moats will in his entire career.

plummershelper · 08-21-2006, 08:56 PM

Tatum is worth much more having him as a part of this offense than as a part of a trade for a rotational DT and a marginal rb. I choose Tantrum, I mean Tatum.

eagles nut · 08-21-2006, 08:59 PM

I probably jumped the gun on posting this. All of this is based on one guy at the Philly.com message board posting he heard Gargano say this. I haven't been able to find any other details/confirmation. The talk about Moats being on the fringe is all the talk of Eagles fans who want to cut him after one fumble in a preseason game. He was a 3rd round pick last year. He's not getting cut.

(Jae) · 08-21-2006, 08:59 PM

HELLLLL NOOOO.

Tatum and Leile??

Who the heck do they think Darwin Walker is? Marcus Stroud??
I live in Philly, so I see him on a regular basis.
Dont be fooled by his Madden rating.

and Moats and 5th round pick?
lol, c'mon, we already have about 3 Ryan Moats here already.

rovolution · 08-21-2006, 09:00 PM

I say no, just because we need Tatum as insurance for Mike Bell. If M. Bell goes down, i dont feel comfortable with Nash, Cobbs, or even Dayne for that matter.

Atlas · 08-21-2006, 09:00 PM

Denver doesn't need moats. Assley and Tatum for Walker and a 3rd. Sign me up.

08-21-2006, 08:31 PM	#1
eagles nut Just Drafted New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Dead rumor via Anthony Gargano of WIP Radio in Philly WR Ashley Lelie and RB Tatum Bell for DT Darwin Walker, RB Ryan Moats, and 5th round pick Don't know if he's just saying it's being discussed or if it will happen. I'll try to find out more.

08-21-2006, 08:36 PM	#6
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	NO. Not BOTH players unless Walker is some beast. Moats is 5.8 and Walker's stats have gone down since 02-03 every year. He's also under 300 pounds. Last edited by watermock; 08-21-2006 at 08:40 PM..

08-21-2006, 08:42 PM	#10
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	That's not a trade, it's a fire sale. We don't need Moats. Maybe for Walker and a third. If we have our own fire sale backs, that's fine. MB, Nash and Cobbs, all off the street might turn the trick, but that trade doesn't have much value. When Sapp gets healthy, he can play tailback in a pinch as well. Last edited by watermock; 08-21-2006 at 08:45 PM..

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08-21-2006, 08:33 PM	#2
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	Take it!!!!!! I think Denver should get a 3rd instead of a 5th however.

08-21-2006, 08:34 PM	#3
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	I feel an erection coming on.

08-21-2006, 08:35 PM	#4
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	(GABLE!) SOLD! To the man witht he **** eating grin.

08-21-2006, 08:37 PM	#7
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	It should be a 4th round pick because....ahh Tatum is a beast.

08-21-2006, 08:40 PM	#9
freak6 3,631 - WAKE UP!!!! Impeach President Cheney and Puppet Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,651 Adopt-a-Bronco: MJK	Hell no. Ashley is worth more than Walker, and Moats for Tatum isn't close either. The pick should be a 2nd round. Moats wouldn't displace Nash let alone Bell or Cobbs.

08-21-2006, 08:48 PM	#12
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	I just don't think Ashley gets traded. He just doesn't have any value, because whomever would have to want him long term, and why would anyone pay him when he's a trouble maker

08-21-2006, 08:49 PM	#14
plummershelper Light Rail Rumor Monger I heard on the light rail ... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Burger Heaven, next to my meteorite Posts: 791	Moats has been talked about as being on the fringe lately in Philly. Thats like us trading Lelie and Dayne for Kearse and Westbrook. Well maybe not that bad, but it's them trading a weak 5th, a smallish fumble prone rb on the bubble, and a DT on the decline ready to be replaced by a 1st round pick. Sounds like too much convenience for the eagles. I would however take Lelie and Bell for Walker and Trent Cole and a 5th. Both immediately upgrade the Dline while Philly gets 2 offensive game breakers. The deal, as earlier written, would be a fleecing of redskin proportions.

08-21-2006, 08:49 PM	#15
BroncoMatt The Blizzard Man Check My Style Out Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: California Posts: 1,559	as much as I want Ashley to go to philly, adding Tatum is too much. I'll trust my adopt a bronco to do the right thing

08-21-2006, 08:50 PM	#16
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	Who could be against this trade? We are trading a guy who will never suit up for us and a backup runningback for a starting DT. Where do I sign up?

08-21-2006, 08:52 PM	#18
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Thank God this is just a rumor. We dont need another rotational DT and a fumble prone RB. A 5th round pick? Are you kidding me? This deal blows in every way imaginable. I wouldnt give Lelie alone for both those castoffs and the 5th much less Tatum included.

08-21-2006, 08:53 PM	#19
WABronco WE SUCK AGAIN All dat force Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 4,976	I'm opposed to trading Tatum, but if we can get a solid DT in return I may consider it. Moats would give us a legit change-of-pace threat, which is all that Tatum has shown he can be to this point (albeit a very good one). If Mike Bell is entrenched as the starter--which he's very much on his way to doing--then perhaps it's in the team's best interest to use one of our RB assets to spread more talent to areas of greater need. Just off the top of my head, I'd say Walker is a similar player to Demetrin Veal...quick, disruptor type. He's a nice player... In all honesty though, I don't see Shanny making this deal. I think he would much rather prefer to trade Lelie alone, but that obviously depends on his opinion of Tatum's potential in this system. I think I'll trust Shanny's judgement either way...

08-21-2006, 08:56 PM	#21
plummershelper Light Rail Rumor Monger I heard on the light rail ... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Burger Heaven, next to my meteorite Posts: 791	Tatum is worth much more having him as a part of this offense than as a part of a trade for a rotational DT and a marginal rb. I choose Tantrum, I mean Tatum.

08-21-2006, 08:59 PM	#22
eagles nut Just Drafted New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I probably jumped the gun on posting this. All of this is based on one guy at the Philly.com message board posting he heard Gargano say this. I haven't been able to find any other details/confirmation. The talk about Moats being on the fringe is all the talk of Eagles fans who want to cut him after one fumble in a preseason game. He was a 3rd round pick last year. He's not getting cut.

08-21-2006, 08:59 PM	#23
(Jae) Pro Bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	HELLLLL NOOOO. Tatum and Leile?? Who the heck do they think Darwin Walker is? Marcus Stroud?? I live in Philly, so I see him on a regular basis. Dont be fooled by his Madden rating. and Moats and 5th round pick? lol, c'mon, we already have about 3 Ryan Moats here already.

08-21-2006, 09:00 PM	#24
rovolution Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,949 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I say no, just because we need Tatum as insurance for Mike Bell. If M. Bell goes down, i dont feel comfortable with Nash, Cobbs, or even Dayne for that matter.