Cuts are going to be tough - The Orange Mane

jebures · 08-20-2006, 11:15 AM

When is cut down day? It will be interesting to see who goes first. We all know there are going to be a couple shockers on the first round of cuts. I see Ron Dayne and BVP as possible canidates.

defenseman · 08-20-2006, 11:17 AM

dayne maybe, not BVP..dman

rovolution · 08-20-2006, 11:18 AM

Devoe and C. Adams are basically gone. Hixon will go to IR and come back healthy for next year's TC. Its gonna be hard to cut either Nash or Cobbs. Nash had amazing cutbacks in last night's game. When the o-line got stuffed on that one play, he just cutback, and plowed for a 2 yard gain. made something out of nothing. And BVP's pretty much gone. If he stays, all he is doing is hindering Cutler's development, and I dont like that.

NorthPABroncFan · 08-20-2006, 11:40 AM

Dayne could be trade-bait or perhaps IR-bound. I suspect Van Pelt gets cut in the last round so we can keep a 6th WR -- I doubt anyone other than Houston would pick him up; it's likely he'd be around as a call up should anything happen to Jake. But he has to stick around so he can play most of the last pre-season game

About the only surprise cuts I can see would be someone like Englebarger or Stephen Alexander... the latter is really unlikely, but possible if the coaching staff think that Scheffler is far enough along in his blocking.

TotallyScrewed · 08-20-2006, 11:43 AM

I've a tough time seeing the Broncos keep more than five or six WR's. Keepers are Smith, Walker, Marshall, Watts, Kircus and

Devoe makes a nice grab and then stubs his toe on two holding penalties. Terrell does do enough. Clark is better on ST. Adams was gone and will probably be gone again. Hixon is on IR.

When's the first cut down day, and to how many players?

NFLBRONCO · 08-20-2006, 11:48 AM

Devoe will win cause of ST's

Hercules Rockefeller · 08-20-2006, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defenseman

dayne maybe, not BVP..dman

Too much depth at CB, RB, LB, TE, and WR to go with 3 QBs

titan · 08-20-2006, 12:06 PM

Here's the cutdown dates:

Aug. 29 -- Roster cutdown to maximum of 75 players.

Sept. 2 -- Roster cutdown to maximum of 53 players.

I don't think BVP is going to make it unless the Broncos see him as Cutler's backup longterm once Jake leaves town (like Kubiak was to Elway).

bpc · 08-20-2006, 12:10 PM

If the roster doesn't look like this, I will be very surprised.

QB: Plummer, Cutler
HB: MBell, TBell, Cobbs, Nash
FB: Sapp, KJ
WR: Rod, Walker, Watts, Marshall, Kircus, Devoe
TE: Alexander, Scheffler, Jackson, Leach
OT: Lepsis, Foster, House
OG: Ham, Cooper, Kuper
C: Nalen, Myers,
DT: Warren, Myers, Veal,
DE: Brown, Lang, Ekuban, Elvis, Chukrah
LB: Wilson, DJ, Gold, Webster, Burns, Vaughn
CB: CHamp, Darrent, Fox, Payma, Roc
S: Lynch, Ferguson, Brandon, Abdullah, Cox
PK: Elam
P: Ernster, Saurbrun

PS: Eslinger, Jackson, Vaughn, Clark, Pears, Everett, Save, Parsons

IR: Hixon

Hercules Rockefeller · 08-20-2006, 12:11 PM

They'll keep at least 4 DTs

bpc · 08-20-2006, 12:16 PM

They are... Brown, Elvis and Ekuban can all play DT in a pinch, especially on 3rd down. .

The great thing about this squad is its versatility. We have a lot of flex players.

Garcia Bronco · 08-20-2006, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpc

If the roster doesn't look like this, I will be very surprised.

QB: Plummer, Cutler
HB: MBell, TBell, Cobbs, Nash
FB: Sapp, KJ
WR: Rod, Walker, Watts, Marshall, Kircus, Devoe
TE: Alexander, Scheffler, Jackson, Leach
OT: Lepsis, Foster, House
OG: Ham, Cooper, Kuper
C: Nalen, Myers,
DT: Warren, Myers, Veal,
DE: Brown, Lang, Ekuban, Elvis, Chukrah
LB: Wilson, DJ, Gold, Webster, Burns, Vaughn
CB: CHamp, Darrent, Fox, Payma, Roc
S: Lynch, Ferguson, Brandon, Abdullah, Cox
PK: Elam
P: Ernster, Saurbrun

PS: Eslinger, Jackson, Vaughn, Clark, Pears, Everett, Save, Parsons

IR: Hixon

effing Saurbrun...I agree that we'll keep 4 DT's...I think Abdullah is the guy off your list that makes up for that...and I like your receiver selections. I'll be disappointed if Devow doesn't make the squad.

bpc · 08-20-2006, 12:22 PM

I like Devoe. I thought the holding penalties were ticky tack. The kid is a fighter and he fits our mold. As evident by his PHilly play last year, he has some explosiveness.

I really like Abdullah actually. He is still learning the ropes but the guy has some range at safety that I haven't really seen from Fergy or Brandon.

I don't think we have a true 4th DT who deserves staying. I just wonder why we haven't looked at picking up Grady Jackson yet. He must be an unruly prick or I thought we would have picked up already.

SportinOne · 08-20-2006, 12:24 PM

Here's the roster.

Everyone can give their two cents and in not too long we should have a finished product.

I think the first step would be to find a position where we have an excess amount of bodies (it's what i do in Madden).

Anyway, we currently have 90 players on the roster, and i believe it has to be at 65. GO!

Code:

No. Name                 Pos. 
1   Jason Elam            K
3   Paul Ernster        P/K 
4   Micah Knorr           P 
5   Preston Parsons      QB 
6   Jay Cutler           QB 
10  Todd Sauerbrun        P 
11  Bradlee Van Pelt     QB 
12  Domenik Hixon        WR 
13  David Terrell        WR 
14  Todd Devoe           WR 
15  Brandon Marshall     WR 
16  Jake Plummer         QB 
17  Darius Watts         WR 
19  Brian Clark          WR 
20  Mike Bell            RB 
21  Hamza Abdullah        S 
22  Domonique Foxworth   CB 
23  Willie Middlebrooks  CB 
24  Champ Bailey         CB 
25  Nick Ferguson         S 
26  Tatum Bell           RB 
27  Darrent Williams     CB 
28  Jeff Shoate          CB 
29  Damien Nash          RB 
31  Brandon Miree        RB 
32  Tyler Everett         S 
33  Ron Dayne            RB 
34  Cedric Cobbs         RB 
35  Antwaun Rogers*      CB 
37  Cecil Sapp           RB 
39  Kyle Johnson         FB 
40  Curome Cox            S 
41  Karl Paymah          CB 
42  Sam Brandon           S 
43  Rashon Powers-Neal   FB 
45  Roc Alexander        CB 
46  Chad Mustard         TE 
47  John Lynch            S 
49  Kevin Harrison       LB 
50  Ben Hamilton        G/C 
50  Cameron Vaughn       LB 
51  Keith Burns          LB 
52  Ian Gold             LB 
53  Louis Green          LB 
54  Patrick Chukwurah    LB 
55  D.J. Williams        LB 
56  Al Wilson            LB 
57  T.J. Hollowell       LB 
58  Nate Webster         LB 
59  Ray Wells            LB 
59  Taylor Whitley        G 
60  John Engelberger     DE 
61  Gerard Warren        DT 
62  Chris Myers         C/G 
63  Rob Hunt*           G/C 
64  Erik Pears*           T 
65  Cooper Carlisle     G/T 
66  Tom Nalen             C 
67  Greg Eslinger         C 
68  Martin Bibla          G 
69  P.J. Alexander        G 
70  Javiar Collins        T 
71  Patrice Mwamba*      DL 
72  George Foster         T 
73  Chris Kuper           G 
74  Cornell Green         T 
75  Adam Meadows          T 
76  Kenard Lang          DE 
77  Dwayne Carswell       G 
78  Matt Lepsis           T 
79  Bryan Save           DT 
80  Rod Smith            WR 
81  Charlie Adams        WR 
82  Stephen Alexander    TE 
83  Mike Leach        TE/LS 
84  Javon Walker         WR 
85  Ashley Lelie         WR 
87  David Kircus         WR 
88  Tony Scheffler       TE 
89  Nate Jackson         TE 
90  Corey Jackson        DE 
91  Ebenezer Ekuban      DE 
92  Elvis Dumervil       DE 
93  Antwon Burton        DT 
94  Amon Gordon          DL 
95  Khaleed Vaughn       DE 
96  Michael Myers        DT 
97  Demetrin Veal        DT 
98  Courtney Brown       DE 

RESERVE/INJURED LIST

86  Landon Trusty        TE

bpc · 08-20-2006, 12:25 PM

Merge with "cuts are going to be hard".

WayOutWest · 08-20-2006, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpc

LB: Wilson, DJ, Gold, Webster, Burns, Vaughn

you think they'll keep 3 MLBs (Wilson, Webster, Burns), and only 1 OLB backup (Vaughn)?

akaspaz · 08-20-2006, 12:43 PM

I'n response to BPC's potential roster...

I think Burns and House will have a harder time making the roster this year than in the past. Burns is way down on the depth chart and he's far too old to be as effective on ST's. Sapp, Roc or Brandon have the experience and can pick up the slack and potential leadership.

There is too much competition for spots and I don't see the team keeping three specialists (Burns, Leach, Ernster) just for ST's.

As for House, I've heard nothing...

bpc · 08-20-2006, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WayOutWest

you think they'll keep 3 MLBs (Wilson, Webster, Burns), and only 1 OLB backup (Vaughn)?

I think Webster has been working at SLB and MLB in TC and Burns is a vet he'll get us by in crisis. We also will have Chukrah who is on the DL in my list. Like I said, we have a number of players who are flexed and can play multiple positions.

JCMElway · 08-20-2006, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpc

If the roster doesn't look like this, I will be very surprised.

QB: Plummer, Cutler
HB: MBell, TBell, Cobbs, Nash
FB: Sapp, KJ
WR: Rod, Walker, Watts, Marshall, Kircus, Devoe
TE: Alexander, Scheffler, Jackson, Leach
OT: Lepsis, Foster, House
OG: Ham, Cooper, Kuper
C: Nalen, Myers,
DT: Warren, Myers, Veal,
DE: Brown, Lang, Ekuban, Elvis, Chukrah
LB: Wilson, DJ, Gold, Webster, Burns, Vaughn
CB: CHamp, Darrent, Fox, Payma, Roc
S: Lynch, Ferguson, Brandon, Abdullah, Cox
PK: Elam
P: Ernster, Saurbrun

PS: Eslinger, Jackson, Vaughn, Clark, Pears, Everett, Save, Parsons

IR: Hixon

Some observations. Great breakdown. However, House is gone. He was up there before the accident. Also, Sauerbrun does not count against the roster while he is suspended. Also, 0 DB may be one too many. I think Paymah, Roc, Cox, or Abdulla will go. So that leaves 3 slots open. I think you have to put Antwon Burton and John Engelberger into the mix for depth on the O line. Add in Adam Meadows for depth.

WayOutWest · 08-20-2006, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpc

I think Webster has been working at SLB and MLB in TC and Burns is a vet he'll get us by in crisis. We also will have Chukrah who is on the DL in my list. Like I said, we have a number of players who are flexed and can play multiple positions.

that would be a departure for Webster then, because he played MLB exclusively while in Tampa and Cincy.

I understand about Chukwurah though, but he also put on a bit of weight to become a fulltime DE.

bpc · 08-20-2006, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akaspaz

I'n response to BPC's potential roster...

I think Burns and House will have a harder time making the roster this year than in the past. Burns is way down on the depth chart and he's far too old to be as effective on ST's. Sapp, Roc or Brandon have the experience and can pick up the slack and potential leadership.

There is too much competition for spots and I don't see the team keeping three specialists (Burns, Leach, Ernster) just for ST's.

As for House, I've heard nothing...

Burns is the special teams captain. I would say that 90% he will be on the team.

I figure its Carswell vs. Mustard and Jackson for a roster spot. Because Jackson gives us some flexibility in the passing game it will come down to Mustard (and oversized blocking TE with average hands at best against House who although not a great lineman can be an emergency Tackle, Guard and TE on the goal line.

I'm telling you guys, Shanahan puts a lot of emphasis on being versatile. House is a vet with skills now to play OL and TE. He'll get to keep a job because of this.

bpc · 08-20-2006, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WayOutWest

that would be a departure for Webster then, because he played MLB exclusively while in Tampa and Cincy.

I understand about Chukwurah though, but he also put on a bit of weight to become a fulltime DE.

From my understanding they had Webster backing up DJ early in camp. Chuk is listed at 250 so I don't think he'll be that much heavier at DL or LB.

BroncoMatt · 08-20-2006, 12:55 PM

do we get some kind of roster exemption for Lelie assuming he is not traded?

bpc · 08-20-2006, 12:56 PM

He'll be on the exempt, refused to report list until he decides he wants to do something.

baja · 08-20-2006, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpc

If the roster doesn't look like this, I will be very surprised.

QB: Plummer, Cutler
HB: MBell, TBell, Cobbs, Nash
FB: Sapp, KJ
WR: Rod, Walker, Watts, Marshall, Kircus, Devoe
TE: Alexander, Scheffler, Jackson, Leach
OT: Lepsis, Foster, House
OG: Ham, Cooper, Kuper
C: Nalen, Myers,
DT: Warren, Myers, Veal,
DE: Brown, Lang, Ekuban, Elvis, Chukrah
LB: Wilson, DJ, Gold, Webster, Burns, Vaughn
CB: CHamp, Darrent, Fox, Payma, Roc
S: Lynch, Ferguson, Brandon, Abdullah, Cox
PK: Elam
P: Ernster, Saurbrun

PS: Eslinger, Jackson, Vaughn, Clark, Pears, Everett, Save, Parsons

IR: Hixon

I think you nailed it except you have only 52 roster spots, Saurbrun will not count for the 4 games he is suspended.

I think we keep Adam meddows with that extra spot

08-20-2006, 11:15 AM	#1
jebures Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 954 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	Cuts are going to be tough When is cut down day? It will be interesting to see who goes first. We all know there are going to be a couple shockers on the first round of cuts. I see Ron Dayne and BVP as possible canidates.

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08-20-2006, 11:17 AM	#2
defenseman Ring of Famer 2007 record pred. (7-9) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,232	dayne maybe, not BVP..dman

08-20-2006, 11:18 AM	#3
rovolution Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,949 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Devoe and C. Adams are basically gone. Hixon will go to IR and come back healthy for next year's TC. Its gonna be hard to cut either Nash or Cobbs. Nash had amazing cutbacks in last night's game. When the o-line got stuffed on that one play, he just cutback, and plowed for a 2 yard gain. made something out of nothing. And BVP's pretty much gone. If he stays, all he is doing is hindering Cutler's development, and I dont like that.

08-20-2006, 11:40 AM	#4
NorthPABroncFan Just Drafted New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 19 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Dayne could be trade-bait or perhaps IR-bound. I suspect Van Pelt gets cut in the last round so we can keep a 6th WR -- I doubt anyone other than Houston would pick him up; it's likely he'd be around as a call up should anything happen to Jake. But he has to stick around so he can play most of the last pre-season game About the only surprise cuts I can see would be someone like Englebarger or Stephen Alexander... the latter is really unlikely, but possible if the coaching staff think that Scheffler is far enough along in his blocking.

08-20-2006, 11:43 AM	#5
TotallyScrewed Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,597	I've a tough time seeing the Broncos keep more than five or six WR's. Keepers are Smith, Walker, Marshall, Watts, Kircus and Devoe makes a nice grab and then stubs his toe on two holding penalties. Terrell does do enough. Clark is better on ST. Adams was gone and will probably be gone again. Hixon is on IR. When's the first cut down day, and to how many players?

08-20-2006, 11:48 AM	#6
NFLBRONCO Ring of Famer Go Nuggets Go Lakers Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lafayette Colorado Posts: 7,386	Devoe will win cause of ST's

08-20-2006, 12:06 PM	#8
titan Perennial Pro-bowler Fan of Old School Football Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 963 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Here's the cutdown dates: Aug. 29 -- Roster cutdown to maximum of 75 players. Sept. 2 -- Roster cutdown to maximum of 53 players. I don't think BVP is going to make it unless the Broncos see him as Cutler's backup longterm once Jake leaves town (like Kubiak was to Elway).

08-20-2006, 12:10 PM	#9
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	If the roster doesn't look like this, I will be very surprised. QB: Plummer, Cutler HB: MBell, TBell, Cobbs, Nash FB: Sapp, KJ WR: Rod, Walker, Watts, Marshall, Kircus, Devoe TE: Alexander, Scheffler, Jackson, Leach OT: Lepsis, Foster, House OG: Ham, Cooper, Kuper C: Nalen, Myers, DT: Warren, Myers, Veal, DE: Brown, Lang, Ekuban, Elvis, Chukrah LB: Wilson, DJ, Gold, Webster, Burns, Vaughn CB: CHamp, Darrent, Fox, Payma, Roc S: Lynch, Ferguson, Brandon, Abdullah, Cox PK: Elam P: Ernster, Saurbrun PS: Eslinger, Jackson, Vaughn, Clark, Pears, Everett, Save, Parsons IR: Hixon

08-20-2006, 12:11 PM	#10
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	They'll keep at least 4 DTs

08-20-2006, 12:16 PM	#11
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	They are... Brown, Elvis and Ekuban can all play DT in a pinch, especially on 3rd down. . The great thing about this squad is its versatility. We have a lot of flex players.

08-20-2006, 12:22 PM	#13
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I like Devoe. I thought the holding penalties were ticky tack. The kid is a fighter and he fits our mold. As evident by his PHilly play last year, he has some explosiveness. I really like Abdullah actually. He is still learning the ropes but the guy has some range at safety that I haven't really seen from Fergy or Brandon. I don't think we have a true 4th DT who deserves staying. I just wonder why we haven't looked at picking up Grady Jackson yet. He must be an unruly prick or I thought we would have picked up already.

08-20-2006, 12:25 PM	#15
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Merge with "cuts are going to be hard".

08-20-2006, 12:43 PM	#17
akaspaz Just Drafted New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 25 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I'n response to BPC's potential roster... I think Burns and House will have a harder time making the roster this year than in the past. Burns is way down on the depth chart and he's far too old to be as effective on ST's. Sapp, Roc or Brandon have the experience and can pick up the slack and potential leadership. There is too much competition for spots and I don't see the team keeping three specialists (Burns, Leach, Ernster) just for ST's. As for House, I've heard nothing...

08-20-2006, 12:55 PM	#23
BroncoMatt The Blizzard Man Check My Style Out Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: California Posts: 1,559	do we get some kind of roster exemption for Lelie assuming he is not traded?

08-20-2006, 12:56 PM	#24
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,570 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	He'll be on the exempt, refused to report list until he decides he wants to do something.