Eagles want Tatum? - The Orange Mane

Hercules Rockefeller · 08-15-2006, 08:20 PM

http://www.gcobb.com/modules.php?op=...rder=0&thold=0

I really hope Shanahan doesn't do this. None of the remaining RBs on the rosters have the speed or homerun ability of Tatum.

I'd only want this to go down if:
1. Denver gets a 2nd that can go to the Eagles 1st if Tatum hits certain stat levels, say 1300 yds and 10 TDs. Doubtful he'll hit it with Westbrook there, but because of the position it leaves Denver in w/ regards to RB depth, there should still be that chance Denver's rewarded for Tatum having a great year.
2. Denver has a deal worked out for someone like Thomas Jones and it costs them less to acquire him than what they receive from the Eagles for Tatum.

ward63 · 08-15-2006, 08:24 PM

Trade Lily, but not Tatum! A second would replace what we spent on him though.

El Guapo · 08-15-2006, 08:24 PM

unless its another three team shannanagan I hope this doesnt go through..good find.

Dedhed · 08-15-2006, 08:26 PM

Interesting idea, but I wouldn't bite unless we got some other proven commodity at RB. Tatum may not be a feature back, but he is the most tested back we have on the roster, and it would be tough to let him go without a little insurance.

Ballhawk · 08-15-2006, 08:27 PM

Any player worth a package deal?

Kearse

thumpc · 08-15-2006, 08:29 PM

i dont want to lose tatum, but what do we look for in exchange for Lelie and Bell?

SoCalBronco · 08-15-2006, 08:30 PM

Very interesting.

Thanks for posting that, Herc. I agree that losing Tatum would be a big blow, considering how precarious the RB position is currently. Even though he still has significant holes in his game, Tatum plays a substantial role here. The prospects of just Mike Bell and Ron Dayne at the position is very unpalatable. You're idea is a good one if its viable (re: Thomas Jones), but with him getting somewhat hurt recently, I don't think we are going to be willing to sweeten the pot enough to get him.

BroncoSoja · 08-15-2006, 08:31 PM

If we do trade Tatum we better get one hell of a D-lineman.. And just going off the top of my head I dont see who they would be able to give us (thats not starting for them) that would make it worth our time.

watermock · 08-15-2006, 08:34 PM

No, No and No. We can't go out there with MB, Cobbs and Dayne. Possibly if it was a megadeal where we got a first for both TB and Lelie plus a DT or Buchalter. Philly isn't known for bending over like Wash or Cleveland. I don't know if we could rape either again at this point. We could trade TB for Portis!

maven · 08-15-2006, 08:34 PM

garbage story. Tater is staying in Denver & will start the 1st game of the season.

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Get a DT for Tatum and Lelie

Killericon · 08-15-2006, 08:39 PM

Tatum + Lelie for...?

Bronco Billy · 08-15-2006, 08:40 PM

I can probably be categorized as a Mike Bell homer, but trading Tatum is not a good move.

Donk · 08-15-2006, 08:41 PM

Keep Tatum

SoCalBronco · 08-15-2006, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killericon

Tatum + Lelie for...?

2 and 4.

We would be agreeing to give up Lelie for less than what we think is fair and in exchange, if they want to remedy their RB situation, they will have to pay a premium for Tatum over market value.

Ofcourse the 2 and 4 would not really help us with the RB position this year, but I think Denver will be powered by the passing attack this year anyway with the additions of Walker, Marshall and Scheffler. Ideally, if the Eagles were agreeable to this arrangement, we could pawn off some of our spare parts at other positions to cobble together enough value to get some experienced adequate/serviceable back from a third club.

Raider Bill · 08-15-2006, 08:44 PM

I don't think the Eagles will do anything at RB until they see how Buckhalter looks. I know their QB coach. If I see him around, I'll see what he says.

kamakazi_kal · 08-15-2006, 08:45 PM

why didnt we go and get dan wilkinson for DT the guy WAS on the market forever.......... seems like we have DE just no skill at DT

the broncos need no part of the walking injury named c.buck

Taco John · 08-15-2006, 09:06 PM

Does anybody know what the story is with Stephen Davis?

Why is that guy not on a team?

Killericon · 08-15-2006, 09:10 PM

What I want to know is why they're after Tatum when they have Westbrook.

I'm lost.

BroncoMatt · 08-15-2006, 09:11 PM

IMO as the old saying goes the eagles can want in one hand and schit in the other and see what hand fills up first.

Tatum is too important to this team for this season, next season may be a different story.

Requiem · 08-15-2006, 09:37 PM

This sounds a lot like that Dorm Room Jets guy. Rumah.

Also, TJ -- Davis is 32 years old. . . also has had some injury problems. That's probably why he isn't on a team.

ZONA · 08-15-2006, 09:59 PM

Some of you guys are confused.

Let me help you with some answers........lol

* Stephen Davis is old - he needs to retire. We don't want him.
* We don't need Wilkinson, we have a great DT, his name is Warren.
* You can't package Lelie and T. Bell together as if you were going on a picnic. The dynamics of putting both together in same deal would almost be impossible.
* Stay away from Thomas Jones. He gets hurt alot. I saw him for years with Cardinals and even though they don't have a great Oline, he didn't show me anything I would be drooling over. I would sooner start Cobbs.

Nobody is going to give us a pass rusher worth anything for T. Bell in return. A good pass rusher is much harder to find then a good back. Besides, I think Shanny would be more likely to trade Dayne before Bell. Bell still has more upside then Dayne. It will work itself out over the next few game though. As for me, I think we'll see a combo unit again, probably the Bell & Bell show. Dayne will get some short yardage and goal line stuff, the scraps.

Jetmeck · 08-15-2006, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

2 and 4.

We would be agreeing to give up Lelie for less than what we think is fair and in exchange, if they want to remedy their RB situation, they will have to pay a premium for Tatum over market value.

Ofcourse the 2 and 4 would not really help us with the RB position this year, but I think Denver will be powered by the passing attack this year anyway with the additions of Walker, Marshall and Scheffler. Ideally, if the Eagles were agreeable to this arrangement, we could pawn off some of our spare parts at other positions to cobble together enough value to get some experienced adequate/serviceable back from a third club.

I think you are right in assuming the passing game will play a more prevelant role this year. I for one am not willing to trade the run game for the passing game, we must be more balanced and with every play you ask Plummer to drop back the prospect of a turnover runs through my mind so my enthusiasm for the incresed passing game is tempered to say the least.

No Denver wins by running the ball, TATUM needs to stay put.

Killericon · 08-15-2006, 10:05 PM

Quote:

We don't need Wilkinson, we have a great DT, his name is Warren.

Not to mention he signed with Miami.

ludo21 · 08-15-2006, 10:07 PM

Bell and Lilly for Kearse.

Get er done!!

08-15-2006, 08:20 PM	#1
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,013 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Eagles want Tatum? http://www.gcobb.com/modules.php?op=...rder=0&thold=0 I really hope Shanahan doesn't do this. None of the remaining RBs on the rosters have the speed or homerun ability of Tatum. I'd only want this to go down if: 1. Denver gets a 2nd that can go to the Eagles 1st if Tatum hits certain stat levels, say 1300 yds and 10 TDs. Doubtful he'll hit it with Westbrook there, but because of the position it leaves Denver in w/ regards to RB depth, there should still be that chance Denver's rewarded for Tatum having a great year. 2. Denver has a deal worked out for someone like Thomas Jones and it costs them less to acquire him than what they receive from the Eagles for Tatum.

08-15-2006, 08:30 PM	#7
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,498 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	Very interesting. Thanks for posting that, Herc. I agree that losing Tatum would be a big blow, considering how precarious the RB position is currently. Even though he still has significant holes in his game, Tatum plays a substantial role here. The prospects of just Mike Bell and Ron Dayne at the position is very unpalatable. You're idea is a good one if its viable (re: Thomas Jones), but with him getting somewhat hurt recently, I don't think we are going to be willing to sweeten the pot enough to get him. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

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08-15-2006, 08:24 PM	#2
ward63 The Burner Returner Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,161 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quincy Morgan	Trade Lily, but not Tatum! A second would replace what we spent on him though.

08-15-2006, 08:24 PM	#3
El Guapo aka mav_7. who? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: VA (heart is in TX) Posts: 3,491	unless its another three team shannanagan I hope this doesnt go through..good find.

08-15-2006, 08:26 PM	#4
Dedhed Ring of Famer Fare thee well Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 9,748 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	Interesting idea, but I wouldn't bite unless we got some other proven commodity at RB. Tatum may not be a feature back, but he is the most tested back we have on the roster, and it would be tough to let him go without a little insurance.

08-15-2006, 08:27 PM	#5
Ballhawk Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,132	Any player worth a package deal? Kearse

08-15-2006, 08:29 PM	#6
thumpc Pro Bowler Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Future Posts: 749 Adopt-a-Bronco: Richard Quinn	i dont want to lose tatum, but what do we look for in exchange for Lelie and Bell?

08-15-2006, 08:31 PM	#8
BroncoSoja Shanahan wtfpwns me Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 912	If we do trade Tatum we better get one hell of a D-lineman.. And just going off the top of my head I dont see who they would be able to give us (thats not starting for them) that would make it worth our time.

08-15-2006, 08:34 PM	#9
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	No, No and No. We can't go out there with MB, Cobbs and Dayne. Possibly if it was a megadeal where we got a first for both TB and Lelie plus a DT or Buchalter. Philly isn't known for bending over like Wash or Cleveland. I don't know if we could rape either again at this point. We could trade TB for Portis!

08-15-2006, 08:34 PM	#10
maven ★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆ Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,851	garbage story. Tater is staying in Denver & will start the 1st game of the season.

08-15-2006, 08:37 PM	#11
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 46,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell.Mike Bell. Get a DT for Tatum and Lelie

08-15-2006, 08:39 PM	#12
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	Tatum + Lelie for...?

08-15-2006, 08:41 PM	#14
Donk Free Agent Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sun City CA. Posts: 416 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bob Scarpitto	Keep Tatum

08-15-2006, 08:40 PM	#13
Bronco Billy Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,322	I can probably be categorized as a Mike Bell homer, but trading Tatum is not a good move.

08-15-2006, 08:44 PM	#16
Raider Bill ........ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Southern New Joisey Posts: 4,202	I don't think the Eagles will do anything at RB until they see how Buckhalter looks. I know their QB coach. If I see him around, I'll see what he says.

08-15-2006, 08:45 PM	#17
kamakazi_kal I have a Teb0ner. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,165 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mayhem Miller	why didnt we go and get dan wilkinson for DT the guy WAS on the market forever.......... seems like we have DE just no skill at DT the broncos need no part of the walking injury named c.buck

08-15-2006, 09:06 PM	#18
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Does anybody know what the story is with Stephen Davis? Why is that guy not on a team?

08-15-2006, 09:10 PM	#19
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	What I want to know is why they're after Tatum when they have Westbrook. I'm lost.

08-15-2006, 09:11 PM	#20
BroncoMatt The Blizzard Man Check My Style Out Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: California Posts: 1,559	IMO as the old saying goes the eagles can want in one hand and schit in the other and see what hand fills up first. Tatum is too important to this team for this season, next season may be a different story.

08-15-2006, 09:37 PM	#21
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,802 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	This sounds a lot like that Dorm Room Jets guy. Rumah. Also, TJ -- Davis is 32 years old. . . also has had some injury problems. That's probably why he isn't on a team.

08-15-2006, 09:59 PM	#22
ZONA Ring of Famer If you smacked your screen, hahaha Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,477 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Some of you guys are confused. Let me help you with some answers........lol * Stephen Davis is old - he needs to retire. We don't want him. * We don't need Wilkinson, we have a great DT, his name is Warren. * You can't package Lelie and T. Bell together as if you were going on a picnic. The dynamics of putting both together in same deal would almost be impossible. * Stay away from Thomas Jones. He gets hurt alot. I saw him for years with Cardinals and even though they don't have a great Oline, he didn't show me anything I would be drooling over. I would sooner start Cobbs. Nobody is going to give us a pass rusher worth anything for T. Bell in return. A good pass rusher is much harder to find then a good back. Besides, I think Shanny would be more likely to trade Dayne before Bell. Bell still has more upside then Dayne. It will work itself out over the next few game though. As for me, I think we'll see a combo unit again, probably the Bell & Bell show. Dayne will get some short yardage and goal line stuff, the scraps.

08-15-2006, 10:07 PM	#25
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,971 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Bell and Lilly for Kearse. Get er done!!