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View Poll Results: Who has the more game winning potential
A rookie John Elway coached by Dan Reeves 25 18.66%
A rookie Jay Cutler coached by Mike Shanahan 109 81.34%
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Old 08-15-2006, 04:58 PM   #1
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Default Ladies and Gentlemen your first Jay Cutler poll...

Now think about this before you answer!
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:00 PM   #2
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:01 PM   #3
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Cutler & Shanny FTW.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:01 PM   #4
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Cutler, obviously. Better supporting cast, better defense, better coach.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:05 PM   #5
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Anyone want to put an over/under on how long it takes B-Love to bust a vein when he sees this poll?
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:09 PM   #6
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I'd have to say Cutler.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:12 PM   #7
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Cutler/Shanahan.

No, I don't want to see the proof.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:13 PM   #8
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^^Looks like Bob has a little too much time on his hands.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:22 PM   #9
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Cutler, but that has a lot to do with the times. And of course Shanahan is way more capable of dumbing down an offense for plummer...err...a rookie than Reeves.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:36 PM   #10
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^^Looks like Bob has a little too much time on his hands.
I made that image right after the draft. All you Donk fans were celebrating Cutler and dumping Plummer. The thread is in the butt.
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:42 PM   #11
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:43 PM   #12
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so much for loyality.

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Old 08-15-2006, 05:43 PM   #13
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I'll bite on this one and say Shanny and Cutler. John would've owned every record but for Reeves. Of course, he may not have been the legendary comeback king, either. Hard to say.

Most talent + good coach 70% potential
Top talent + good coach 70% potential
Most talent + better coach 100% potential
Top talent + better coach 80% potential

(non scientific, mind you)
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Old 08-15-2006, 05:45 PM   #14
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Sorry you all - this is a trick question. The answer of course is John Elway. Because Shanny won't start his rookie QB (unless his hand is forced by injury) where as Reeves could not resist pulling Deberg for Elway.

So... While Jay "the kid" has a better chance to succeed w/ Shanny as his coach then Elway with Reeves, it's because he has Shanny as his coach (and thus he's not playing) that means Elway had the better potential to win more games as a rookie.
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I will never, ever bet against Elway...in anything....no matter what obstacle or coach he has to overcome....
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Yet another retarded Cutler/Elway comparison thread.
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I will never, ever bet against Elway...in anything....no matter what obstacle or coach he has to overcome....
What about Elway versus a hurricane... and that hurricane's name is Ditka??
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What about Elway versus a hurricane... and that hurricane's name is Ditka??
Is that a regular size Ditka or some of those mini-Ditkas
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Yet another retarded Cutler/Elway comparison thread.
Is there anything on the whole planet that is cool enough for you?

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Is that a regular size Ditka or some of those mini-Ditkas
This is like a Hurricane Katrina size Hurricane Ditka.
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A rookie John Elway coached by Mike Shanahan
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Old 08-15-2006, 06:35 PM   #22
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the question could be misconstrued insofar as the wording of "game winning potential". Elway had more game winning potential than any quarterback in the history of the game. Hell, Reeves is thought of as a good coach because elway carried his ass on his back. If you are comparing teams, than Cutler would have a more talented team, but if you are talking pure "game winning" potential....


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Old 08-15-2006, 06:48 PM   #23
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Cutler, but not because of his talent but rather because he has a better coach and a better team.
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the question could be misconstrued insofar as the wording of "game winning potential". Elway had more game winning potential than any quarterback in the history of the game. Hell, Reeves is thought of as a good coach because elway carried his ass on his back. If you are comparing teams, than Cutler would have a more talented team, but if you are talking pure "game winning" potential....


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If you had to go into a season and was contracted to make 100 grand for every win and nothing for a loss your team is in place but you have to take a package deal on coach QB one option you have is rookie Elway and coach Revees the other is rookie Cutler and coach Shanahan, who do you take?
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John Elway didn't come to a team that had just gone to the AFC Championship game, and the receivers are better now than they were then. Reeves didn't know how to use Elway and Shanahan did.

I will say that it will be near impossible for Jay to be as good a player as Elway. Elway was so good that opposing teams never felt safe in the fourth quarter even if they had a two score lead. I mean, it was like you couldn't stop him. He was such a tremendous athlete too.
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