Ladies and Gentlemen your first Jay Cutler poll... - The Orange Mane

baja · 08-15-2006, 03:58 PM

Now think about this before you answer!

Requiem · 08-15-2006, 04:00 PM

Answers: Blank

RhymesayersDU · 08-15-2006, 04:01 PM

Cutler & Shanny FTW.

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-15-2006, 04:01 PM

Cutler, obviously. Better supporting cast, better defense, better coach.

DomCasual · 08-15-2006, 04:05 PM

Anyone want to put an over/under on how long it takes B-Love to bust a vein when he sees this poll?

Florida_Bronco · 08-15-2006, 04:09 PM

I'd have to say Cutler.

ClevelandBronco · 08-15-2006, 04:12 PM

Cutler/Shanahan.

No, I don't want to see the proof.

Houshmazode · 08-15-2006, 04:13 PM

^^Looks like Bob has a little too much time on his hands.

Dedhed · 08-15-2006, 04:22 PM

Cutler, but that has a lot to do with the times. And of course Shanahan is way more capable of dumbing down an offense for plummer...err...a rookie than Reeves.

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-15-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by theFuge

^^Looks like Bob has a little too much time on his hands.

I made that image right after the draft. All you Donk fans were celebrating Cutler and dumping Plummer. The thread is in the butt.

RhymesayersDU · 08-15-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

in the butt.

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Adopt-a-Bronco:
J. Cutler's ass

Is that all you think about?

Saddletramp · 08-15-2006, 04:43 PM

so much for loyality.

Circle Orange · 08-15-2006, 04:43 PM

I'll bite on this one and say Shanny and Cutler. John would've owned every record but for Reeves. Of course, he may not have been the legendary comeback king, either. Hard to say.

Most talent + good coach 70% potential
Top talent + good coach 70% potential
Most talent + better coach 100% potential
Top talent + better coach 80% potential

(non scientific, mind you)

Archie · 08-15-2006, 04:45 PM

Sorry you all - this is a trick question. The answer of course is John Elway. Because Shanny won't start his rookie QB (unless his hand is forced by injury) where as Reeves could not resist pulling Deberg for Elway.

So... While Jay "the kid" has a better chance to succeed w/ Shanny as his coach then Elway with Reeves, it's because he has Shanny as his coach (and thus he's not playing) that means Elway had the better potential to win more games as a rookie.

worm · 08-15-2006, 04:48 PM

I will never, ever bet against Elway...in anything....no matter what obstacle or coach he has to overcome....

Rock Chalk · 08-15-2006, 04:49 PM

Yet another retarded Cutler/Elway comparison thread.

RhymesayersDU · 08-15-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by worm

I will never, ever bet against Elway...in anything....no matter what obstacle or coach he has to overcome....

What about Elway versus a hurricane... and that hurricane's name is Ditka??

elsid13 · 08-15-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

What about Elway versus a hurricane... and that hurricane's name is Ditka??

Is that a regular size Ditka or some of those mini-Ditkas

baja · 08-15-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Alec

Yet another retarded Cutler/Elway comparison thread.

Is there anything on the whole planet that is cool enough for you?

Thought you were on vacation anyway?

RhymesayersDU · 08-15-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

Is that a regular size Ditka or some of those mini-Ditkas

This is like a Hurricane Katrina size Hurricane Ditka.

STBumpkin · 08-15-2006, 05:25 PM

A rookie John Elway coached by Mike Shanahan

ØrangeÇrush · 08-15-2006, 05:35 PM

the question could be misconstrued insofar as the wording of "game winning potential". Elway had more game winning potential than any quarterback in the history of the game. Hell, Reeves is thought of as a good coach because elway carried his ass on his back. If you are comparing teams, than Cutler would have a more talented team, but if you are talking pure "game winning" potential....

Elway

Que · 08-15-2006, 05:48 PM

Cutler, but not because of his talent but rather because he has a better coach and a better team.

baja · 08-15-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ØrangeÇrush

the question could be misconstrued insofar as the wording of "game winning potential". Elway had more game winning potential than any quarterback in the history of the game. Hell, Reeves is thought of as a good coach because elway carried his ass on his back. If you are comparing teams, than Cutler would have a more talented team, but if you are talking pure "game winning" potential....

Elway

If you had to go into a season and was contracted to make 100 grand for every win and nothing for a loss your team is in place but you have to take a package deal on coach QB one option you have is rookie Elway and coach Revees the other is rookie Cutler and coach Shanahan, who do you take?

Kaylore · 08-15-2006, 06:07 PM

John Elway didn't come to a team that had just gone to the AFC Championship game, and the receivers are better now than they were then. Reeves didn't know how to use Elway and Shanahan did.

I will say that it will be near impossible for Jay to be as good a player as Elway. Elway was so good that opposing teams never felt safe in the fourth quarter even if they had a two score lead. I mean, it was like you couldn't stop him. He was such a tremendous athlete too.

View Poll Results: Who has the more game winning potential
A rookie John Elway coached by Dan Reeves	25	18.66%
A rookie Jay Cutler coached by Mike Shanahan	109	81.34%
Voters: 134. You may not vote on this poll

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08-15-2006, 04:00 PM	#2
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,517 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Answers: Blank

08-15-2006, 04:01 PM	#3
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	Cutler & Shanny FTW.

08-15-2006, 04:01 PM	#4
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Cutler, obviously. Better supporting cast, better defense, better coach.

08-15-2006, 04:05 PM	#5
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,167 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	Anyone want to put an over/under on how long it takes B-Love to bust a vein when he sees this poll?

08-15-2006, 04:09 PM	#6
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	I'd have to say Cutler.

08-15-2006, 04:12 PM	#7
ClevelandBronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Freedonia Posts: 1,643	Cutler/Shanahan. No, I don't want to see the proof.

08-15-2006, 04:13 PM	#8
Houshmazode Solid Starter Still need a pass rush. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Gunnison Posts: 199 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rulon Jones	^^Looks like Bob has a little too much time on his hands.

08-15-2006, 04:22 PM	#9
Dedhed Ring of Famer Fare thee well Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 9,702 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	Cutler, but that has a lot to do with the times. And of course Shanahan is way more capable of dumbing down an offense for plummer...err...a rookie than Reeves.

08-15-2006, 04:43 PM	#13
Circle Orange SPOT ON. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Styxx, D.C. Posts: 3,956	I'll bite on this one and say Shanny and Cutler. John would've owned every record but for Reeves. Of course, he may not have been the legendary comeback king, either. Hard to say. Most talent + good coach 70% potential Top talent + good coach 70% potential Most talent + better coach 100% potential Top talent + better coach 80% potential (non scientific, mind you)

08-15-2006, 04:45 PM	#14
Archie R Gang Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 1,151 Adopt-a-Bronco: Keith Bishop	Sorry you all - this is a trick question. The answer of course is John Elway. Because Shanny won't start his rookie QB (unless his hand is forced by injury) where as Reeves could not resist pulling Deberg for Elway. So... While Jay "the kid" has a better chance to succeed w/ Shanny as his coach then Elway with Reeves, it's because he has Shanny as his coach (and thus he's not playing) that means Elway had the better potential to win more games as a rookie.

08-15-2006, 04:48 PM	#15
worm Great moments are born... ...from great opportunity Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,947 Adopt-a-Bronco: #20	I will never, ever bet against Elway...in anything....no matter what obstacle or coach he has to overcome....

08-15-2006, 04:49 PM	#16
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Yet another retarded Cutler/Elway comparison thread.

08-15-2006, 05:25 PM	#21
STBumpkin burnin' it at both ends Livin' The Dream Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 757 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	A rookie John Elway coached by Mike Shanahan

08-15-2006, 05:35 PM	#22
ØrangeÇrush Aaaayh!!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,371	the question could be misconstrued insofar as the wording of "game winning potential". Elway had more game winning potential than any quarterback in the history of the game. Hell, Reeves is thought of as a good coach because elway carried his ass on his back. If you are comparing teams, than Cutler would have a more talented team, but if you are talking pure "game winning" potential.... Elway

08-15-2006, 05:48 PM	#23
Que Gettin' some Just the tip Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Crested Butte, CO Posts: 1,186	Cutler, but not because of his talent but rather because he has a better coach and a better team.

08-15-2006, 06:07 PM	#25
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,010 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	John Elway didn't come to a team that had just gone to the AFC Championship game, and the receivers are better now than they were then. Reeves didn't know how to use Elway and Shanahan did. I will say that it will be near impossible for Jay to be as good a player as Elway. Elway was so good that opposing teams never felt safe in the fourth quarter even if they had a two score lead. I mean, it was like you couldn't stop him. He was such a tremendous athlete too.