AROUND the LEAGUE - What Have You Seen? - The Orange Mane

BroncoBuff · 08-13-2006, 01:06 PM

Here's a few things I noticed:

DREW BREES is 100% fine ... in fact, his arm looked stronger than I remember last year ...

THE TEXANS blew it passing on Bush, because he's a mega-star. I wondered if his cross-field college speed would translate to the pros .... well it does - did you see him cross all the way over and gain 25-30 yards? His speed translates - that was the Titans first-string dee ....

PAC-MAN JONES is a miscreant, and he'll draw plenty of penalty flages this year and beyond. Even money he'll be a RAider before he's through ...

PHILLIP RIVERS will be fine for SD - poise and presence. He throws a little like VY, but had Cutler-like poise. He's gonna be a pain for the next decade ....

TONY ROMO was a real stud vs. Seahwaks - he played every snap for the Cowboys, and he's got a real live gun...

TRENT GREEN was awful, and the Chefs seemed disorganized as they over-celebrated every tackle and first down. Don't let the final score fool you - it was a blowout before they caught a late break and Q went in ...

I THOUGHT THIS GUY RETIRED! You'll be surprised: Click here!

NOLA Bronco · 08-13-2006, 01:09 PM

Bush should have had a TD last night if Devry Henderson held his block.

Who Dat!!!

SureShot · 08-13-2006, 01:23 PM

I'm watching the Saints/Titans game and as Bush reversed field I thought the same thing. I thought he had good vision on some inside runs too.

WABronco · 08-13-2006, 01:23 PM

I remember Shanny hyping up Romo when he was coming out of college. Shanny knows his QB's.

...and I wouldn't be so quick to say that Houston blew it by taking Mario. In a few years Houston will have Mario Williams, Travis Johnson, Robaire Smith, Anthony Weaver, and Antwan Peek (a Robert Mathis type DE)...dominant D-lines can win you some games. Just ask the Patriots/Steelers/Ravens/Buccaneers/etc.

Bush has a very good chance to be a mega-star though...Houston won't sell as many jerseys. That's for sure.

BroncoBuff · 08-13-2006, 01:24 PM

Anybody else? Scouting reports?

How about that "Click here!" guy above? Am I the only guy who thought he retired?

ØrangeÇrush · 08-13-2006, 02:59 PM

At one point, we all thought Patrick Hape had some pics of Shanny and that's why he always seemed to make the team. Obviously, Kubiak wants to win and is importing players who understand the system and who will make the transition smoother.

GonzoLays · 08-13-2006, 03:13 PM

I know I might get some hate for this...Cutler's throwing motion reminds me of Kerry Collins. There I said it.

BigPlayShay · 08-13-2006, 03:45 PM

It is hilarous to watch the Texans offense. It is literally like watching the Broncos in different unis. I wish Kubes nothing but the best. It will certainly be interesting to watch that 3rd pre-season game.

SureShot · 08-13-2006, 03:48 PM

Patrick Creighton WR DAL sprained his right ankle. Hopefully it will help with a Lilly for Ellis trade.

GonzoLays · 08-13-2006, 03:55 PM

SureShot · 08-13-2006, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoLays

I know I might get some hate for this...Cutler's throwing motion reminds me of Kerry Collins. There I said it.

I assume its because of the open left hand. Thats the only similarities I see. Of course that could be because of the difference of the results of their passes.

shaun514 · 08-13-2006, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SureShot7

Patrick Creighton WR DAL sprained his right ankle. Hopefully it will help with a Lilly for Ellis trade.

That trade still makes zero sense for the Cowboys. Lelie would have to compete for the 3rd WR spot for the 'boys and the Cowboys would trade away a guy who is currently the starting outside linebacker.

Further, Parcells has said his players can't be scared of competition. Lelie obviously is.

GonzoLays · 08-13-2006, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SureShot7

I assume its because of the open left hand. Thats the only similarities I see. Of course that could be because of the difference of the results of their passes.

Look above. I'm telling you, they throw exactly the same. I didn't even notice that they both open their left hand either.

Let's just hope Jay doesn't have a thing against blacks and loves the bottle as well.

SureShot · 08-13-2006, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaun514

That trade still makes zero sense for the Cowboys. Lelie would have to compete for the 3rd WR spot for the 'boys and the Cowboys would trade away a guy who is currently the starting outside linebacker.

Further, Parcells has said his players can't be scared of competition. Lelie obviously is.

Any injury to a WR increases Lilly's value. Kenard Lang was moved to OLB too.

fatcard · 08-13-2006, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

PHILLIP RIVERS will be fine for SD - poise and presence. He throws a little like VY, but had Cutler-like poise. He's gonna be a pain for the next decade ....

Ha.... I'm sure Rivers will be over the moon to have had his poise likened to a first gamer!

Good luck to him though...

azbroncfan · 08-13-2006, 07:25 PM

I noticed the chefs D looked the same and Denver's looked the same wiht no pass rush and a bunch of retreads.

BroncoBuff · 08-13-2006, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SureShot7

Kenard Lang was moved to OLB too.

Whoa .... really?

SureShot · 08-13-2006, 11:28 PM

Seriously. My point was just because you move a DE to olb and starts, doesn't mean its a good fit.

Wes Mantooth · 08-13-2006, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoLays

I know I might get some hate for this...Cutler's throwing motion reminds me of Kerry Collins. There I said it.

His bootleg was tons better though.

Also, his brain seemed to work.

ludo21 · 08-13-2006, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Whoa .... really?

in cleveland.......

Gardkowski looked good as well. Sharp, and accurate.

Kaylore · 08-13-2006, 11:55 PM

I noticed that Vince Young's receivers dropped a lot of balls.

Pac-man Jones is getting better.

Drew Brees looks like his arm is fine.

Jason Campbell is looking decent.

The Titans are going to much better this year.

We got pass rush with just our front four. (If you don't think so, watch the game again.)

The Chiefs suck. Brodie Frayle is already hurt and hasn't even played a down yet.

The Manning commercial with him bursting out of a football is homo.

kmartin575 · 08-14-2006, 12:01 AM

The Broncos defense was trash this weekend.

shaun514 · 08-14-2006, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SureShot7

Seriously. My point was just because you move a DE to olb and starts, doesn't mean its a good fit.

Obviously. But Willie McGuinest didn't have a problem with the transition. And, Greg Ellis, by most accounts, has looked very good in the transition, and in some packages, still plays end.

Ellis is going to be a significant contributor to that defense this year. Why would they trade him for a guy that fears competition, and would at best, but the third WR?

BroncoBuff · 08-14-2006, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

The Manning commercial with him bursting out of a football is homo.

Excellent observation, sir.

And I think Greg Ellis is whining about the move... that could be a kind of fear of competing.

kmartin575 · 08-14-2006, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Excellent observation, sir.

Yeah. I was expecting some intimidating defensive player to step out and instead we get this ugly quarterback trying to act intimidating.

08-13-2006, 01:06 PM	#1
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,470 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	AROUND the LEAGUE - What Have You Seen? Here's a few things I noticed: DREW BREES is 100% fine ... in fact, his arm looked stronger than I remember last year ... THE TEXANS blew it passing on Bush, because he's a mega-star. I wondered if his cross-field college speed would translate to the pros .... well it does - did you see him cross all the way over and gain 25-30 yards? His speed translates - that was the Titans first-string dee .... PAC-MAN JONES is a miscreant, and he'll draw plenty of penalty flages this year and beyond. Even money he'll be a RAider before he's through ... PHILLIP RIVERS will be fine for SD - poise and presence. He throws a little like VY, but had Cutler-like poise. He's gonna be a pain for the next decade .... TONY ROMO was a real stud vs. Seahwaks - he played every snap for the Cowboys, and he's got a real live gun... TRENT GREEN was awful, and the Chefs seemed disorganized as they over-celebrated every tackle and first down. Don't let the final score fool you - it was a blowout before they caught a late break and Q went in ... I THOUGHT THIS GUY RETIRED! You'll be surprised: *Click here!* Last edited by BroncoBuff; 08-13-2006 at 01:11 PM..

08-13-2006, 01:23 PM	#4
WABronco WE SUCK AGAIN All dat force Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 4,976	I remember Shanny hyping up Romo when he was coming out of college. Shanny knows his QB's. ...and I wouldn't be so quick to say that Houston blew it by taking Mario. In a few years Houston will have Mario Williams, Travis Johnson, Robaire Smith, Anthony Weaver, and Antwan Peek (a Robert Mathis type DE)...dominant D-lines can win you some games. Just ask the Patriots/Steelers/Ravens/Buccaneers/etc. Bush has a very good chance to be a mega-star though...Houston won't sell as many jerseys. That's for sure. Last edited by WABronco; 08-13-2006 at 01:30 PM..

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08-13-2006, 01:09 PM	#2
NOLA Bronco Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 798 Adopt-a-Bronco: Shane Swanson	Bush should have had a TD last night if Devry Henderson held his block. Who Dat!!!

08-13-2006, 01:23 PM	#3
SureShot Te-believer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Paradise Divide Posts: 5,996 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Russell	I'm watching the Saints/Titans game and as Bush reversed field I thought the same thing. I thought he had good vision on some inside runs too.

08-13-2006, 01:24 PM	#5
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,470 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Anybody else? Scouting reports? How about that "Click here!" guy above? Am I the only guy who thought he retired?

08-13-2006, 02:59 PM	#6
ØrangeÇrush Aaaayh!!! Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,371	At one point, we all thought Patrick Hape had some pics of Shanny and that's why he always seemed to make the team. Obviously, Kubiak wants to win and is importing players who understand the system and who will make the transition smoother.

08-13-2006, 03:13 PM	#7
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	I know I might get some hate for this...Cutler's throwing motion reminds me of Kerry Collins. There I said it.

08-13-2006, 03:45 PM	#8
BigPlayShay Ring of Famer Novaking Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,241 Adopt-a-Bronco: Got Cut	It is hilarous to watch the Texans offense. It is literally like watching the Broncos in different unis. I wish Kubes nothing but the best. It will certainly be interesting to watch that 3rd pre-season game.

08-13-2006, 03:48 PM	#9
SureShot Te-believer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Paradise Divide Posts: 5,996 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Russell	Patrick Creighton WR DAL sprained his right ankle. Hopefully it will help with a Lilly for Ellis trade.

08-13-2006, 03:55 PM	#10
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ

08-13-2006, 07:25 PM	#16
azbroncfan Ring of Famer Angry guntoting,meateating AMERICAN Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 8,669 Adopt-a-Bronco: TEBOW	I noticed the chefs D looked the same and Denver's looked the same wiht no pass rush and a bunch of retreads.

08-13-2006, 11:28 PM	#18
SureShot Te-believer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Paradise Divide Posts: 5,996 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Russell	Seriously. My point was just because you move a DE to olb and starts, doesn't mean its a good fit.

08-13-2006, 11:55 PM	#21
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,321 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I noticed that Vince Young's receivers dropped a lot of balls. Pac-man Jones is getting better. Drew Brees looks like his arm is fine. Jason Campbell is looking decent. The Titans are going to much better this year. We got pass rush with just our front four. (If you don't think so, watch the game again.) The Chiefs suck. Brodie Frayle is already hurt and hasn't even played a down yet. The Manning commercial with him bursting out of a football is homo.

08-14-2006, 12:01 AM	#22
kmartin575 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 886	The Broncos defense was trash this weekend.