Al Gore the hypocrite, has no credibility

[Barry Ramey]

It figures. Just like a true today democrat. "Do as I say and not as I do."


Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe


By Peter Schweizer
Al Gore has spoken: The world must embrace a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." To do otherwise, he says, will result in a cataclysmic catastrophe. "Humanity is sitting on a ticking time bomb," warns the website for his film, An Inconvenient Truth. "We have just 10 years to avert a major catastrophe that could send our entire planet into a tailspin."
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Graciously, Gore tells consumers how to change their lives to curb their carbon-gobbling ways: Switch to compact fluorescent light bulbs, use a clothesline, drive a hybrid, use renewable energy, dramatically cut back on consumption. Better still, responsible global citizens can follow Gore's example, because, as he readily points out in his speeches, he lives a "carbon-neutral lifestyle." But if Al Gore is the world's role model for ecology, the planet is doomed.

For someone who says the sky is falling, he does very little. He says he recycles and drives a hybrid. And he claims he uses renewable energy credits to offset the pollution he produces when using a private jet to promote his film. (In reality, Paramount Classics, the film's distributor, pays this.)

Public records reveal that as Gore lectures Americans on excessive consumption, he and his wife Tipper live in two properties: a 10,000-square-foot, 20-room, eight-bathroom home in Nashville, and a 4,000-square-foot home in Arlington, Va. (He also has a third home in Carthage, Tenn.) For someone rallying the planet to pursue a path of extreme personal sacrifice, Gore requires little from himself.

Then there is the troubling matter of his energy use. In the Washington, D.C., area, utility companies offer wind energy as an alternative to traditional energy. In Nashville, similar programs exist. Utility customers must simply pay a few extra pennies per kilowatt hour, and they can continue living their carbon-neutral lifestyles knowing that they are supporting wind energy. Plenty of businesses and institutions have signed up. Even the Bush administration is using green energy for some federal office buildings, as are thousands of area residents.

But according to public records, there is no evidence that Gore has signed up to use green energy in either of his large residences. When contacted Wednesday, Gore's office confirmed as much but said the Gores were looking into making the switch at both homes. Talk about inconvenient truths.

Gore is not alone. Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean has said, "Global warming is happening, and it threatens our very existence." The DNC website applauds the fact that Gore has "tried to move people to act." Yet, astoundingly, Gore's persuasive powers have failed to convince his own party: The DNC has not signed up to pay an additional two pennies a kilowatt hour to go green. For that matter, neither has the Republican National Committee.

Maybe our very existence isn't threatened.

Gore has held these apocalyptic views about the environment for some time. So why, then, didn't Gore dump his family's large stock holdings in Occidental (Oxy) Petroleum? As executor of his family's trust, over the years Gore has controlled hundreds of thousands of dollars in Oxy stock. Oxy has been mired in controversy over oil drilling in ecologically sensitive areas.

Living carbon-neutral apparently doesn't mean living oil-stock free. Nor does it necessarily mean giving up a mining royalty either.

Humanity might be "sitting on a ticking time bomb," but Gore's home in Carthage is sitting on a zinc mine. Gore receives $20,000 a year in royalties from Pasminco Zinc, which operates a zinc concession on his property. Tennessee has cited the company for adding large quantities of barium, iron and zinc to the nearby Caney Fork River.

The issue here is not simply Gore's hypocrisy; it's a question of credibility. If he genuinely believes the apocalyptic vision he has put forth and calls for radical changes in the way other people live, why hasn't he made any radical change in his life? Giving up the zinc mine or one of his homes is not asking much, given that he wants the rest of us to radically change our lives.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...re-green_x.htm

[SteveTensi13]

Al "I invented the Internet' Gore is a horses arse who himself, everytime he opens his traiterous pie hole, contributes to globalwarming with all the hot air he lets out.

[Barry Ramey]

Yep and even Al Gore can attest to, it's a lot easier to tell others how to live and conserve than to actually do it yourself.

[SteveTensi13]

Reminds me of Kerry when he was campaigning he was telling Americans to conserve gas by driving small compact cars. When it was pointed out to him that he owns several large SUV's he said they weren't his they belonged to his family! Huh?

[SteveTensi13]

Better yet, Sean Hannity had a debate with Robert F Kennedy Jr. who was complaining about Americans being wasteful and contributing to global warming. Hannity pointed out to Kennedy that he, kennedy, had a lear jet he flies all over the place and a limosine as well. Kennedy replied that Hannity was changing the subject and besides he "needed" those modes of travel to do his job!

[bendog]

He must scare the crap outta you guys. roflmao

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by SteveTensi13

Al "I invented the Internet' Gore is a horses arse who himself, everytime he opens his traiterous pie hole, contributes to globalwarming with all the hot air he lets out.

Wow! Al Gore is a traitor too? Who'd a thunk it? Fortunately, we have these brown shirts around to keep things straight.

[bendog]

psst, I hear he's a pedophile.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Originally Posted by SteveTensi13

Reminds me of Kerry when he was campaigning he was telling Americans to conserve gas by driving small compact cars. When it was pointed out to him that he owns several large SUV's he said they weren't his they belonged to his family! Huh?

Whatever else you may think of Al Gore's politics and regardless of whether he personally is always adhering to what he's preaching...Gore is dead on in his representation of what is happening environmentally. Green technology is not just a fad now, it's a matter of critical concern for the preservation of this planet and our way of life as we know it. We absolutely cannot continue with this "business as usual" approach we've taken to everything form fossil fuel consumption to how we hand the disposal of environmental waste.

In most cases, I consider poltical rhetoric as merely the investment politicians make in their future through public relations. In Gore's case, he's a true believer in what he's talking about and we would do well to listen.

[loborugger]

Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Whatever else you may think of Al Gore's politics and regardless of whether he personally is always adhering to what he's preaching...Gore is dead on in his representation of what is happening environmentally. Green technology is not just a fad now, it's a matter of critical concern for the preservation of this planet and our way of life as we know it. We absolutely cannot continue with this "business as usual" approach we've taken to everything form fossil fuel consumption to how we hand the disposal of environmental waste.

In most cases, I consider poltical rhetoric as merely the investment politicians make in their future through public relations. In Gore's case, he's a true believer in what he's talking about and we would do well to listen.

In college, I knew a true believer. Dude didnt have a car. Not that he couldnt afford a car, he just rode a bike. He saved water (it was Albuquerque) by not showering daily. That is a true believer. Gore is a fraud. Sorry, worship at the alter of self promotion if you wish, but know what you follow.

A 9000 sq foot home? Everybody needs one of those. How many efficiencies could they build with those materials? And I am sure that house has TONS of appliances, all using electricity unnecessarily.

Further, I am sure that Tipper cleans that house from top to bottom... What do you bet that they hired some immigrant and pay her absolutely nothing for the pleasure of making sure Al has a clean place to take his environmentally safe craps.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Originally Posted by loborugger

In college, I knew a true believer. Dude didnt have a car. Not that he couldnt afford a car, he just rode a bike. He saved water (it was Albuquerque) by not showering daily. That is a true believer. Gore is a fraud. Sorry, worship at the alter of self promotion if you wish, but know what you follow.

A 9000 sq foot home? Everybody needs one of those. How many efficiencies could they build with those materials? And I am sure that house has TONS of appliances, all using electricity unnecessarily.

Further, I am sure that Tipper cleans that house from top to bottom... What do you bet that they hired some immigrant and pay her absolutely nothing for the pleasure of making sure Al has a clean place to take his environmentally safe craps.

None of which has anythiing to do with whether or not the information he's discussing is valid or not.

[Barry Ramey]

If Gore really believes in what he's preaching, then he needs to practice it before criticizing others who don't.

[alkemical]

well he still has some occidental money too i believe -

what's funny is in seattle, there is a park - near pioneer square - (sort of an ehh part of town) - called occidental park - no grass - it's funny

[footstepsfrom#27]

Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

If Gore really believes in what he's preaching, then he needs to practice it before criticizing others who don't.

Fine...but don't let Gore be the issue.

[Barry Ramey]

Kind of hard not to make Gore an issue when he makes himself be an issue. I have yet to see Gore or anyone else explain how man has caused the Sun to be hotter now that it ever has according to scientists and also how man has caused the polar caps on Mars to be melting, which also was found by scientists. Or how man caused the Ice Age on this planet for that matter.

[orangenblue2]

Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

Kind of hard not to make Gore an issue when he makes himself be an issue. I have yet to see Gore or anyone else explain how man has caused the Sun to be hotter now that it ever has according to scientists and also how man has caused the polar caps on Mars to be melting, which also was found by scientists. Or how man caused the Ice Age on this planet for that matter.

Oh, that's right. You, the "very well read, illustriously decorated Barry Ramey" know a hell of a lot more than the hundreds, nay thousands, of scientists who study this "global warming" thing for a living. I tell you what, on your next post, just include that picture of you holding up that Nobel Prize that you won and we'll all be happy to give your musings more than the standard .02 second sniff test...

[loborugger]

Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

None of which has anythiing to do with whether or not the information he's discussing is valid or not.

Leadership (which is what Gore claims to be) is done by example. Period. Dont talk about being carbon neutral when you live like American royalty. Dont talk about making a minimal impact on the earth when you consume more than most 3 Americans (and as he likes to point out, Americans consume more than most).

Its not like I am saying that Gore should change his womanizing (I dont know that he is) or weight. I am talking about issues specific to his goals. Sorta like I have no respect for Bush for sending youngsters off to do what he avoided, I have no respect for Gore talking about no impact when he lives as he does.

If he lived like a Granola, I could at least respect his opinion. I may not agree with it, but I could at least respect it.

[footstepsfrom#27]

Originally Posted by loborugger

Leadership (which is what Gore claims to be) is done by example. Period. Dont talk about being carbon neutral when you live like American royalty. Dont talk about making a minimal impact on the earth when you consume more than most 3 Americans (and as he likes to point out, Americans consume more than most).

Its not like I am saying that Gore should change his womanizing (I dont know that he is) or weight. I am talking about issues specific to his goals. Sorta like I have no respect for Bush for sending youngsters off to do what he avoided, I have no respect for Gore talking about no impact when he lives as he does.

If he lived like a Granola, I could at least respect his opinion. I may not agree with it, but I could at least respect it.

Respecting him or his actions are not necessary to evaluate whether we should do something about our problems in this area. These issues are much bigger than Gore. Are you saying we should do nothing because of what Al Gore is doing in his personal life? Great...let's explain to our kids and grandkids that we destroyed their world because we didn't like Al Gore.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

If Gore really believes in what he's preaching, then he needs to practice it before criticizing others who don't.

I'm a fan of Al's, but this is quoted for truth ... before ANYBODY gets to preachin', they should clean their own house.


Sad.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by loborugger

Leadership (which is what Gore claims to be) is done by example. Period. Dont talk about being carbon neutral when you live like American royalty. Dont talk about making a minimal impact on the earth when you consume more than most 3 Americans (and as he likes to point out, Americans consume more than most).

Its not like I am saying that Gore should change his womanizing (I dont know that he is) or weight. I am talking about issues specific to his goals. Sorta like I have no respect for Bush for sending youngsters off to do what he avoided, I have no respect for Gore talking about no impact when he lives as he does.

If he lived like a Granola, I could at least respect his opinion. I may not agree with it, but I could at least respect it.

That goes for Bush too right since he lives the material world but preaches the environmental world?

[Barry Ramey]

Show me a scientist that claims man causes global warming and I'll show you a scientist who studies this for a living who doesn't agree. Maybe you think you know more than they do. Bottom line scientists can't even come to an agreeable conclusion about this, yet the people that want to blame man for global warming act like they know the truth. Well, you don't.

Originally Posted by orangenblue2

Oh, that's right. You, the "very well read, illustriously decorated Barry Ramey" know a hell of a lot more than the hundreds, nay thousands, of scientists who study this "global warming" thing for a living. I tell you what, on your next post, just include that picture of you holding up that Nobel Prize that you won and we'll all be happy to give your musings more than the standard .02 second sniff test...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

Show me a scientist that claims man causes global warming and I'll show you a scientist who studies this for a living who doesn't agree. Maybe you think you know more than they do. Bottom line scientists can't even come to an agreeable conclusion about this, yet the people that want to blame man for global warming act like they know the truth. Well, you don't.

That's complete BS! An overwhelming number of scientists agree that global warming is happening and man bears at least some responsibility (as has been shown here in numerous past threads and confirmed by our own warming expert on the Mane).

[Spider]

I just find it funny these same baffonns spitting out republican talking points blas Al but yet give Bush a free pass on the war

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Earl or Cledus

I just find it funny these same baffonns spitting out republican talking points blas Al but yet give Bush a free pass on the war

Or, more to the point, the same buffoons who criticize and nitpick at Gore's environmental record turn a completely blind eye to the horrific environmental record of the inept, corrupt administration they support.

You won't hear one peep from them about Bush's deplorable environmental record.

They complain because Gore doesn't travel the country by magic carpet, but they could care less about the court-appointed pinhead's policies of allowing polluters to police themselves and write their own legislation.

They have no problem with the fact that Bush has appointed political hacks and cronies to those positions responsible for overseeing these industries.

The hypocrisy of these people is simply stunning.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

Show me a scientist that claims man causes global warming and I'll show you a scientist who studies this for a living who doesn't agree.

It's hardly a 50/50 split in the of views of the scientists who study climate.

Trust me, I know of what I speak. It's my career.

Originally Posted by Barry Ramey

Maybe you think you know more than they do. Bottom line scientists can't even come to an agreeable conclusion about this, yet the people that want to blame man for global warming act like they know the truth. Well, you don't.

What you say was true 10-15 years ago or so.

The overwhelming consensus today is that we are having a discernible impact on our climate.