BUSH and RICE Arguing Over Cease-Fire in Lebanon - The Orange Mane

BroncoBuff · 08-10-2006, 01:56 AM

The news on AirAmerica has Bush and Condi arguing furiously over whether the U.S. should support the cease-fire as Condi wants. She worked hard on it, and it has broad support. So it's not surprising she's really p***ed that Bush said no....

Why do I get the impression that Bushii is back in Crawford, just exercising and making sure his underwear is fresh when the Rapture comes?

Here's what Zbigniew Brzezinski said about Rice's dilemma:

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What a difference 3 weeks makes. You know the warmongers are in trouble when Lebanese Sunni Prime Minister Fouad Siniora, the US-backed prime minister, who until last week would not hesitate to appear in a photo-op with Condoleezza Rice tells her she is not welcome in Beirut unless she demands and sees to an immediate ceasefire.

We learn one thing from this at least ... Condi is not on board with the NeoCon's "Clean Break."

BroncoBuff · 08-10-2006, 02:06 AM

Condi is falling - slowly - on her way under the "Colin Powell Bus" ...

From COUNTDOWN with KEITH OLBERMANN, an interview with Intelliegence expert John Bamford:

OLBERMANN: Is it Condoleezza Rice herself that the neoconservatives view as a threat? Are they Colin-Powelling her? Or would anyone holding the post of secretary of state prove threatening to this line of thought, because diplomacy really is the antithesis of regime change?

BAMFORD: Well, I think Condi Rice is pretty much a protegee of Colin Powell, who they just couldn‘t stand as secretary of state. And they would prefer to have John Bolton, our ambassador to the U.N., as secretary of state, a fellow neocon.
So they‘re—at every chance they can, I think they‘re going to try to undermine her, and she‘s pushing to get a peace settlement as soon as possible, and I think they would like to delay it as long as possible.

Bamford writes about the coming Iran war in this week's Rolling Stone. Link?

SteveTensi13 · 08-10-2006, 07:08 AM

Air America? Aren't they off the air yet? Real credible source there bubby! Might as well quote Al Jazeera.

Hotrod · 08-10-2006, 07:12 AM

If its true guess whos gonna win the argument...

BroncoBuff · 08-10-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveTensi13

Air America? Aren't they off the air yet? Real credible source there bubby! Might as well quote Al Jazeera.

What about the MSNBC quotes in the next post .... or did you just skip over those?

Condi will be thrown under the Colin Powell bus ... and the neocons and "Clean Break" nuts are gonna "recess appoint" John Bolton Secy of State - as soon as the election is over.

Once this election is over - accountability is over. I suspect the s*** will really hit the fan then. Iran war, Scooter pardon, on and on ...

Bronco9798 · 08-10-2006, 05:02 PM

Let the **** hit the fan. If it's time to go, it's time to go. I had a good life if it ends tomorrow. I'm actually getting the point where I really don't care anymore. Have fun and live life to the fullest. You never know when it's going to end.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 08-10-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco9798

Let the **** hit the fan. If it's time to go, it's time to go. I had a good life if it ends tomorrow. I'm actually getting the point where I really don't care anymore. Have fun and live life to the fullest. You never know when it's going to end.

Perfect summation of the average conservative's attitude re: the kind of world we should bequeath to our children.

"F_ck 'em - I got mine."

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 08-10-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Why do I get the impression that Bushii is back in Crawford, just exercising and making sure his underwear is fresh when the Rapture comes?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 08-10-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

What about the MSNBC quotes in the next post .... or did you just skip over those?

You're asking a third-string, mAnn Coulter wannabe with the IQ of a common house plant a question that starts with "did you read...?"

Bronco9798 · 08-10-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Perfect summation of the average conservative's attitude re: the kind of world we should bequeath to our children.

"F_ck 'em - I got mine."

How many children you have?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 08-10-2006, 08:29 PM

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How many children you have?

That's the weird part - none.

Yet I seem to care more about their future than a lot of people I see.

Bronco9798 · 08-10-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

That's the weird part - none.

Yet I seem to care more about their future than a lot of people I see.

That's what I thought. No big deal, just curious. I have three daughters, 23, 20, and 11. I do care about their future. My point was with so much going on in the world what are you going to do. It just seems hopeless sometimes. Why should that be tied to a political affiliation? Just my own personal thought.

DBruleU · 08-10-2006, 08:32 PM

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That's the weird part - none.

Yet I seem to care more about their future than a lot of people I see.

You are so compassionate and considerate.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 08-10-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco9798

That's what I thought. No big deal, just curious. I have three daughters, 23, 20, and 11. I do care about their future. My point was with so much going on in the world what are you going to do. It just seems hopeless sometimes. Why should that be tied to a political affiliation? Just my own personal thought.

I understand the sentiment.

Every once and a while, I'm tempted to give in to the old Jim Morrison "I'm gonna get my kicks before the whole sh_t house goes up in flames" line of thinking, but then I realize this isn't my style.

I plan to fight to the bitter end.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 08-10-2006, 08:42 PM

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You are so compassionate and considerate.

Yeah - maybe someday I'll reach the standard set by your hero the butcher of Baghdad.

DBruleU · 08-10-2006, 08:44 PM

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Yeah - maybe someday I'll reach the standard set by your hero the butcher of Baghdad.

My hero? You're my hero.

You're an all-knowing genius, incredibly compassionate, and served in the Nam "era."

You are truly a man among boys.

Spider · 08-10-2006, 08:49 PM

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My hero? You're my hero.

You're an all-knowing genius, incredibly compassionate, and served in the Nam "era."

You are truly a man among boys.

god still hasnt called hey ? telling you , you need to call him he forgot about you..............

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 08-10-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DBruleU

My hero? You're my hero.

You're an all-knowing genius, incredibly compassionate, and served in the Nam "era."

You are truly a man among boys.

You're truly a swift boat vet among actual veterans.

Bronco9798 · 08-10-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

I understand the sentiment.

Every once and a while, I'm tempted to give in to the old Jim Morrison "I'm gonna get my kicks before the whole sh_t house goes up in flames" line of thinking, but then I realize this isn't my style.

I plan to fight to the bitter end.

Well good luck posting your thoughts on the internet. If it works, good for you. I'll continue doing what I do. Living life to the fullest and having fun. Lifes too short sometimes.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 08-10-2006, 08:57 PM

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Well good luck posting your thoughts on the internet. If it works, good for you.

Um, that's not what I was talking about.

DBruleU · 08-10-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Earl or Cledus

god still hasnt called hey ? telling you , you need to call him he forgot about you..............

Spider, or Cledus, or whatever the heck you are...you need to learn when something loses its flavor. After that, it doesnt have the same effect. You just sound stupid now.

Bronco9798 · 08-10-2006, 09:02 PM

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Um, that's not what I was talking about.

I figured that but you didn't clarify.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 08-10-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DBruleU

Spider, or Cledus, or whatever the heck you are...you need to learn when something loses its flavor. After that, it doesnt have the same effect. You just sound stupid now.

This from a guy who is still carrying water for Bush and Operation Iraqi Handjob?

Thigh-slapper of the week.

mhgaffney · 08-10-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco9798

Let the **** hit the fan. If it's time to go, it's time to go. I had a good life if it ends tomorrow. I'm actually getting the point where I really don't care anymore. Have fun and live life to the fullest. You never know when it's going to end.

Yeah I take solace in the infinitude of the universe. OUr galaxy alone has 100 billion suns. There is intelligent life somewhere out there, even if there's none here.

The problem is, though, is that even if the worst happens there will be lots of survivors. It will be hard scrabble, hand to mouth, a miserable existence. The living will probably envy the dead.

And to think it didn't have to turn out that way. Nothing inevitable about it.

Our kind seems determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

SteveTensi13 · 08-10-2006, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Yeah I take solace in the infinitude of the universe. OUr galaxy alone has 100 billion suns. There is intelligent life somewhere out there, even if there's none here.

The problem is, though, is that even if the worst happens there will be lots of survivors. It will be hard scrabble, hand to mouth, a miserable existence. The living will probably envy the dead.

And to think it didn't have to turn out that way. Nothing inevitable about it.

Our kind seems determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Counting your chickens before they hatch aren't you? Talk about a fatalist outlook on life.

08-10-2006, 02:06 AM	#2
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Condi is falling - slowly - on her way under the "Colin Powell Bus" ... From COUNTDOWN with KEITH OLBERMANN, an interview with Intelliegence expert John Bamford: OLBERMANN: Is it Condoleezza Rice herself that the neoconservatives view as a threat? Are they Colin-Powelling her? Or would anyone holding the post of secretary of state prove threatening to this line of thought, because diplomacy really is the antithesis of regime change? BAMFORD: Well, I think Condi Rice is pretty much a protegee of Colin Powell, who they just couldn‘t stand as secretary of state. And they would prefer to have John Bolton, our ambassador to the U.N., as secretary of state, a fellow neocon. So they‘re—at every chance they can, I think they‘re going to try to undermine her, and she‘s pushing to get a peace settlement as soon as possible, and I think they would like to delay it as long as possible. Bamford writes about the coming Iran war in this week's Rolling Stone. Link?

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SteveTensi13 GIVE ME SOME MORE ORANGE OLD SCHOOL BRONCO Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Helmand province, Afghanistan Posts: 1,830 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandon Stokley	Air America? Aren't they off the air yet? Real credible source there bubby! Might as well quote Al Jazeera.

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Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	If its true guess whos gonna win the argument...

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Bronco9798 Two Time World Champions Boom Goes The Dynamite Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a Van Down By the River Posts: 2,353 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	Let the **** hit the fan. If it's time to go, it's time to go. I had a good life if it ends tomorrow. I'm actually getting the point where I really don't care anymore. Have fun and live life to the fullest. You never know when it's going to end.