would it be crazy to think? - The Orange Mane

cutthemdown · 08-08-2006, 09:34 PM

First of all this is all specualtion.

1-shanny names mike bell starter = result tatum unhappy
2-lelie is unhappy we all know about that
3-shanny wants thomas jones but bears need 2 runners with benson ailing
4-bears need a wr

so i could see all this pointing to a lelie and bell for thomas jones and pick. Or maybe thomas jones, haynes and a low pick. I know these types of things rarely go down but with cap jumping up and bears having room it could be doable.

don't rip on me I know this type of trade has about a 1 % chance of ever going down but it would explain mike bell being named starter over tatum before ever having played. If Bell did get traded for Jones it would make sense. Dayne stays at 3 and we give Jones the shot at taking number 1 from Mike Bell. Not like Mike Bell would even mind being number 2 this yr.

Crazy theory I guess but this is how my Bronco brain handles the offseason.

bfoflcommish · 08-08-2006, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

First of all this is all specualtion.

1-shanny names mike bell starter = result tatum unhappy
2-lelie is unhappy we all know about that
3-shanny wants thomas jones but bears need 2 runners with benson ailing
4-bears need a wr

so i could see all this pointing to a lelie and bell for thomas jones and pick. Or maybe thomas jones, haynes and a low pick. I know these types of things rarely go down but with cap jumping up and bears having room it could be doable.

don't rip on me I know this type of trade has about a 1 % chance of ever going down but it would explain mike bell being named starter over tatum before ever having played. If Bell did get traded for Jones it would make sense. Dayne stays at 3 and we give Jones the shot at taking number 1 from Mike Bell. Not like Mike Bell would even mind being number 2 this yr.

Crazy theory I guess but this is how my Bronco brain handles the offseason.

step away from the computer. Now get some sleep, then in the morning get some sun, and let's review tomorrow.

hell I'd like it though.

Bronco9798 · 08-08-2006, 09:43 PM

You don't trade depth like that at the RB position unless TB just gets a bad attitude or something. I mean, what if M. Bell goes down in game 4 of pre-season.....

Broncobiv · 08-08-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco9798

You don't trade depth like that at the RB position unless TB just gets a bad attitude or something. I mean, what if M. Bell goes down in game 4 of pre-season.....

Then we have Thomas Jones.

ward63 · 08-08-2006, 09:49 PM

too much talent, for not enough

Atlas · 08-08-2006, 09:51 PM

There is no way I get rid of T. Bell, No way. He can provide instant points from anywhere on the field. He is an immeidiate game changer.

ward63 · 08-08-2006, 09:53 PM

Tatum is our reggie

Bronco9798 · 08-08-2006, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Broncobiv

Then we have Thomas Jones.

And his injuires..I'll take TB..

cutthemdown · 08-08-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco9798

You don't trade depth like that at the RB position unless TB just gets a bad attitude or something. I mean, what if M. Bell goes down in game 4 of pre-season.....

well you're getting thomas jones so rb depth stays the same

Atlas · 08-08-2006, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

well you're getting thomas jones so rb depth stays the same

I wouldn't trade Jones for T. Bell straight up. Tatum has a lot of upside and you never know this preseason he might just grab with the starting job and run away with it.

BroncoMatt · 08-08-2006, 11:28 PM

keep tatum

ClevelandBronco · 08-08-2006, 11:43 PM

I like Tatum here. I like to think that having change-of-pace guys around to keep an opposing defensive coordinator up late game planning is a good thing.

Lelie is flea market merchandise. Sell her if you can get a reasonable price. Keep her until next week if nobody needs her bad enough yet. One of these weekends somebody's going to decide that she fits in just right and they'll offer enough to walk away with her.

cutthemdown · 08-08-2006, 11:43 PM

but im not sure shannahan likes tatum bell as much as you all do

wabbit · 08-08-2006, 11:49 PM

You want unhappy??

Wait until coaches tell Tatum Bell his services will be needed on Special Teams.

Shanahan doesn't let too many players hang out. If they aren't playing, they're playing STs.

QBs & the like are generally excluded, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Bradlee Van Pelt plays little Special Teams in the Pre-Season.

Kaylore · 08-08-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wabbit

QBs & the like are generally excluded, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Bradlee Van Pelt plays little Special Teams in the Pre-Season.

He did last year. So did Chad Friehauf.

Meck77 · 08-08-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wabbit

You want unhappy??.

Imagine if you were a fuggen raiders fan.....

BroncoMan4ever · 08-09-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

First of all this is all specualtion.

1-shanny names mike bell starter = result tatum unhappy
2-lelie is unhappy we all know about that
3-shanny wants thomas jones but bears need 2 runners with benson ailing
4-bears need a wr

so i could see all this pointing to a lelie and bell for thomas jones and pick. Or maybe thomas jones, haynes and a low pick. I know these types of things rarely go down but with cap jumping up and bears having room it could be doable.

don't rip on me I know this type of trade has about a 1 % chance of ever going down but it would explain mike bell being named starter over tatum before ever having played. If Bell did get traded for Jones it would make sense. Dayne stays at 3 and we give Jones the shot at taking number 1 from Mike Bell. Not like Mike Bell would even mind being number 2 this yr.

Crazy theory I guess but this is how my Bronco brain handles the offseason.

Or 5, Ashley and Tatum are both whiny b****es who want things handed to them. Mike Bell has clearly outperformed all the backs in denver and was rewarded for that. I don't think Tatum bbeing upset matters, because he was upset last season when Mike Anderson took the starting job from him.

The starting job was Tatum's all he had to do was keep it. Now the job is Mike Bell and i don't think he is going to want to give it up to anyone, not even Thomas Jones.

The Dread Pirate Roberts · 08-09-2006, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoMan4ever

Or 5, Ashley and Tatum are both whiny b****es who want things handed to them. Mike Bell has clearly outperformed all the backs in denver and was rewarded for that. I don't think Tatum bbeing upset matters, because he was upset last season when Mike Anderson took the starting job from him.

The starting job was Tatum's all he had to do was keep it. Now the job is Mike Bell and i don't think he is going to want to give it up to anyone, not even Thomas Jones.

Sure you follow the Broncos? When was Tatum Bell ever the starter? Once? Garbage-time week 17 game last season?

As for outperforming, nobody has performed a thing yet this season, let alone Mike Bell who hasn't played in a single NFL game. See what happens Friday then talk about a performance.

Then see what happens around week 5 when Mike starts hitting the rookie wall. Coach may hate Tatum, but he's going to have to be on the field because a rookie isn't going to make it a full season with 20+ carries a game.

I'm not at camp. I only know what I've read here and what I've seen on TV the last two years. You have to get the ball in a guy like Tatum's hands at least 15 times a game or you're squandering talent. That's my opinion, anyway.

If Mike Bell can do those same things plus hit the hole better, I congratulate him on winning the job. (Like I said, I haven't seen him play.)

DrFate · 08-09-2006, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlas

I wouldn't trade Jones for T. Bell straight up. Tatum has a lot of upside and you never know this preseason he might just grab with the starting job and run away with it.

That's insane - Jones is a complete back (run AND catch, and has proven he can handle the load). Tatum Bell is a speed back - he's a Michael Bennett clone.

Man-Goblin · 08-09-2006, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wabbit

You want unhappy??

Wait until coaches tell Tatum Bell his services will be needed on Special Teams.

Shanahan doesn't let too many players hang out. If they aren't playing, they're playing STs.

QBs & the like are generally excluded, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Bradlee Van Pelt plays little Special Teams in the Pre-Season.

I think I remember Tatum being a very good special teams player, actually. He's had some nice tackles on punt coverage.

BroncoFiend · 08-09-2006, 06:56 AM

I think Tatum Bell is dead on when he says the coaches don't think he can handle more than 10-15 carries/game.

It's not that they don't trust him, it's just that he is a big play threat that either hits a home run or strikes out and you can't have that for your primary back.

Bell and Dayne are every down TYPES of backs, their talent is yet to be seen but that is their type. Downhill runners who look for a hole and go. Tatum will average 5-6 ypc but that's because he will have runs over 15 and under 2.

Therefore Tatum, if he is willing, is the perfect compliment to either Bell or Dayne. So I say keep him.

jonny1 · 08-09-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dread Pirate Roberts

Sure you follow the Broncos? When was Tatum Bell ever the starter? Once? Garbage-time week 17 game last season?

Actually, as I recall, the general consensus going into camp last year was that it was Tatum's job to lose . . .

and he lost it.

Mediator12 · 08-09-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wabbit

You want unhappy??

Wait until coaches tell Tatum Bell his services will be needed on Special Teams.

Shanahan doesn't let too many players hang out. If they aren't playing, they're playing STs.

QBs & the like are generally excluded, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Bradlee Van Pelt plays little Special Teams in the Pre-Season.

Bell already plays ST's and Did so last year as well.

08-08-2006, 09:34 PM	#1
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,491	would it be crazy to think? First of all this is all specualtion. 1-shanny names mike bell starter = result tatum unhappy 2-lelie is unhappy we all know about that 3-shanny wants thomas jones but bears need 2 runners with benson ailing 4-bears need a wr so i could see all this pointing to a lelie and bell for thomas jones and pick. Or maybe thomas jones, haynes and a low pick. I know these types of things rarely go down but with cap jumping up and bears having room it could be doable. don't rip on me I know this type of trade has about a 1 % chance of ever going down but it would explain mike bell being named starter over tatum before ever having played. If Bell did get traded for Jones it would make sense. Dayne stays at 3 and we give Jones the shot at taking number 1 from Mike Bell. Not like Mike Bell would even mind being number 2 this yr. Crazy theory I guess but this is how my Bronco brain handles the offseason.

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08-08-2006, 09:43 PM	#3
Bronco9798 Two Time World Champions Boom Goes The Dynamite Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a Van Down By the River Posts: 2,353 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	You don't trade depth like that at the RB position unless TB just gets a bad attitude or something. I mean, what if M. Bell goes down in game 4 of pre-season.....

08-08-2006, 09:49 PM	#5
ward63 The Burner Returner Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,161 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quincy Morgan	too much talent, for not enough

08-08-2006, 09:51 PM	#6
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	There is no way I get rid of T. Bell, No way. He can provide instant points from anywhere on the field. He is an immeidiate game changer.

08-08-2006, 09:53 PM	#7
ward63 The Burner Returner Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,161 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quincy Morgan	Tatum is our reggie

08-08-2006, 11:28 PM	#11
BroncoMatt The Blizzard Man Check My Style Out Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: California Posts: 1,559	keep tatum

08-08-2006, 11:43 PM	#12
ClevelandBronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Freedonia Posts: 1,643	I like Tatum here. I like to think that having change-of-pace guys around to keep an opposing defensive coordinator up late game planning is a good thing. Lelie is flea market merchandise. Sell her if you can get a reasonable price. Keep her until next week if nobody needs her bad enough yet. One of these weekends somebody's going to decide that she fits in just right and they'll offer enough to walk away with her.

08-08-2006, 11:49 PM	#14
wabbit Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Aurora Posts: 5,449	You want unhappy?? Wait until coaches tell Tatum Bell his services will be needed on Special Teams. Shanahan doesn't let too many players hang out. If they aren't playing, they're playing STs. QBs & the like are generally excluded, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Bradlee Van Pelt plays little Special Teams in the Pre-Season.

08-09-2006, 06:56 AM	#21
BroncoFiend Ring of Famer The enemy's gate is down Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 1,505 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	I think Tatum Bell is dead on when he says the coaches don't think he can handle more than 10-15 carries/game. It's not that they don't trust him, it's just that he is a big play threat that either hits a home run or strikes out and you can't have that for your primary back. Bell and Dayne are every down TYPES of backs, their talent is yet to be seen but that is their type. Downhill runners who look for a hole and go. Tatum will average 5-6 ypc but that's because he will have runs over 15 and under 2. Therefore Tatum, if he is willing, is the perfect compliment to either Bell or Dayne. So I say keep him.