Top 10 Newcomers in AFC West - The Orange Mane

Atlas · 08-08-2006, 01:36 PM

SoCals link: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mul...content.1.html

#10

Lance Johnstone
Defensive End, Raiders
He's still a dangerous pass-rusher on third down and will be an excellent complement to emerging star Derrick Burgess, who had 16 sacks last season. Johnstone had 7.5 sacks for the Vikings last year and has 70 sacks in his 10-year career. He's known for his quickness and should make the Raiders' defense dangerous in passing situations.

#9

Kyle Turley
Offensive Lineman, Chiefs
He missed the last two seasons with severe back problems and needs to put on weight in a hurry. Right tackle John Welbourn retired in the offseason, and Turley has a chance to earn the starting job if he performs well in training camp. The Chiefs traditionally have one of the best lines in football, although they are getting older. Perhaps Turley's fiery attitude will help keep the unit energized.

#8

Jay Cutler
Quarterback, Broncos
He showed off his arm strength and accuracy in minicamp, leading some members of the media to wonder if he could challenge starter Jake Plummer. The Broncos say that's out of the question, but Cutler's presence will have an effect on this team by pushing Plummer to perform better. Denver has very high expectations this year, so if Plummer struggles, the strong-armed rookie out of Vanderbilt could get a shot.

#7

Marlon McCree
Safety, Chargers
He's coming off a strong season in Carolina (88 tackles, three interceptions) and will likely start at free safety, although he can play strong safety as well. He'll help solidify a unit that was a question mark last season.

#6

Kenard Lang
Defensive End, Broncos
Denver has to replace the versatile Trevor Pryce, so bringing in Lang assures they'll have a deep rotation on the line. Lang, who has 44 sacks in nine NFL seasons, is the latest former Brown to join Denver's defensive line. He struggled trying to transition to outside linebacker in a 3-4 set in Cleveland last year but will be back in his comfort zone with the Broncos.

#5

Michael Huff
Safety, Raiders
Oakland doesn't seem to know where to play Huff, but the former Texas star can help them anywhere in the secondary. He worked at a few positions during minicamps and will likely settle at one of the safety spots. He's big enough to blitz and stop the run and fast enough to cover wideouts deep. The Raiders believe Huff will come in and instantly make the kind of big defensive plays they've been lacking.

#4

Antonio Cromartie
Cornerback, Chargers
He's an incredible athlete with very little football experience. He missed almost all of his final season at Florida State with a knee injury, but he wowed NFL teams with a 4.4 40-yard dash and a 42-inch vertical. Cromartie is 6-foot-2 and has the agility to cover speedy receivers. Despite his lack of playing time, he enters an interesting situation, since the Chargers aren't thrilled with their current corners. Don't be surprised if he contributes immediately.

#3

Tamba Hali
Defensive End, Chiefs
He impressed coaches during minicamps and will likely contribute from the start of the season. Teams were worried about his lack of girth leading up to the draft, but Kansas City doesn't seem concerned. The Chiefs are trying to improve the defense's attitude and hope that Hali's great energy is contagious.

#2

Aaron Brooks
Quarterback, Raiders
The key to his success will be the offensive line. That unit stunk last season but could improve now that Hall of Fame lineman Art Shell is coach. When Brooks has time to throw, he's dangerous. But when he's under pressure, he's a turnover machine. He has a strong enough arm to throw long to Randy Moss.

#1

Javon Walker
Wide Receiver, Broncos
Denver is pleased with the pace of Walker's comeback from knee surgery but knows to take it slow with the former Packer this summer. Walker tore his ACL in the first game of last season and has been working steadily to get back to full speed. The Broncos gave up a second-round pick for him and hope he can provide the consistent threat opposite Rod Smith they've been lacking. If Walker is close to 100 percent, he'll be a huge addition for an offense that needs big-play capability.

fdf · 08-08-2006, 02:08 PM

They missed Denver's new starting RB.

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Atlas · 08-08-2006, 02:20 PM

They sure did!! IDIOTS!!!

Paige just said that he would run for over 1,000 yards. Mariottti said that he would have 900 yards and 9 fumbles(I hate that guy)

Sarcastro · 08-08-2006, 02:25 PM

This must be old. No Ty Law.

youcandoit1687 · 08-08-2006, 02:43 PM

its from around when don banks was doing his early team reports. probly early july. don banks is a decent writer but his mockdrafts are totally off if i remember right

Florida_Bronco · 08-08-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarcastro

This must be old. No Ty Law.

Ty Law is going to great addition...for opposing offenses

I can't wait to see your guy's reaction the first time he leaves his assignment to play ballhawk and gets torched for a touchdown.

youcandoit1687 · 08-08-2006, 03:11 PM

i agree with florida, hell have about a 1 to 1 ratio of big plays given up to big plays made.

OrangeShadow · 08-08-2006, 03:14 PM

i think they nailed it with javon at 1

maher_tyler · 08-08-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlas

They sure did!! IDIOTS!!!

Paige just said that he would run for over 1,000 yards. Mariottti said that he would have 900 yards and 9 fumbles(I hate that guy)

Dude i agree big time that guy is a huge bag of douche!

Darkdoc · 08-08-2006, 03:17 PM

Aaron Brooks at No. 2

?

Someone is smokin' the swamp weed again.

He'd be overrated at TWENTY-two. He's the least capable QB in the AFC West, maybe the AFC.

Florida_Bronco · 08-08-2006, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by youcandoit1687

i agree with florida, hell have about a 1 to 1 ratio of big plays given up to big plays made.

Exactly.

People like fatass go to NFL.com and see his 10 interceptions and all the sudden its like "OMFG! Ty Law focking pwnz you! Say hello to our little friend Jake!! OMFG!" and they've never even seen him play and even realize how far he's declined. None of them look past the interception number or the fact that he's declined so far he didn't find a home until mid July.

I'm sure next season we'll see Bloated Bob throwing Ty Law under the mobile home just the way he did with Vermeil and Goonther.

freak6 · 08-08-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkdoc

Aaron Brooks at No. 2

?

Someone is smokin' the swamp weed again.

He'd be overrated at TWENTY-two. He's the least capable QB in the AFC West, maybe the AFC.

I honestly think the Raiders are going 3-13 this season, maybe worse.

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-08-2006, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

Ty Law is going to great addition...for opposing offenses

I can't wait to see your guy's reaction the first time he leaves his assignment to play ballhawk and gets torched for a touchdown.

You do realize the Jets had the second-ranked pass defense in the NFL last year, right? They only gave up 17 touchdown passes.

Wishful thinking on your part?

kamakazi_kal · 08-08-2006, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

You do realize the Jets had the second-ranked pass defense in the NFL last year, right? They only gave up 17 touchdown passes.

Wishful thinking on your part?

as stated in previous threads bob............ the jets could not stop the run why pass a TD when you can walk it in.....

go ahead and disregard this fact again to help you feel better about law

ward63 · 08-08-2006, 04:16 PM

Brooks is definitly not #2, maybe 10...at best. I can hear it now..."Now on the clock w/the first selection in the 2007 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders." They're terrible! I actually feel bad for Randy and michael Huff.

DenverBrit · 08-08-2006, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

You do realize the Jets had the second-ranked pass defense in the NFL last year, right? They only gave up 17 touchdown passes.

Wishful thinking on your part?

So now the Chiefs signed the entire Jets D? Who's KC cutting to make room?
Give us another unrelated stat to prove another dumbass, nonsensical point.
J/K, don't bother, really.

watermock · 08-08-2006, 04:21 PM

This is comical and typical of SI.

Gurley as what again"

SI is a joke.

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-08-2006, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamakazi_kal

as stated in previous threads bob............ the jets could not stop the run why pass a TD when you can walk it in.....

go ahead and disregard this fact again to help you feel better about law

There's still no evidence to indicate that Law was a weakness on that defense.

Master___Pain · 08-08-2006, 04:21 PM

In all honesty, Cutler does not belong on that list. Most likely (Hopefully) he won't see the field this year, hence I don't see him making much of an impact. Hali at #3 is a tad high too. Turley? Brooks? Come on, they have name recognition but I don't think they strike one bit of fear into anybody...except for maybe Raider and Chief fans.

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-08-2006, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverBrit

So now the Chiefs signed the entire Jets D? Who's KC cutting to make room?
Give us another unrelated stat to prove another dumbass, nonsensical point.
J/K, don't bother, really.

Law was the best player on that defense. They only had 30 sacks, and their run defense sucked ass.

You going to tell me one of their young defensive backs was the difference maker?

DenverBrit · 08-08-2006, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Law was the best player on that defense. They only had 30 sacks, and their run defense sucked ass.

You going to tell me one of their young defensive backs was the difference maker?

Don't you have some shirts to lift somewhere??

kamakazi_kal · 08-08-2006, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

There's still no evidence to indicate that Law was a weakness on that defense.

didnt say he was the problem, just saying you pass def. rank means nothing.

Florida_Bronco · 08-08-2006, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

You do realize the Jets had the second-ranked pass defense in the NFL last year, right? They only gave up 17 touchdown passes.

Wishful thinking on your part?

Hey Bloated Bob, maybe you're wishfully picking and choosing your stats? Take a look at these rankings.

- 3rd fewest passes attempted by opponet (463 = 26.1 att/game)
- Most rushing attempts by an opponet (554 = 34.6 att/game)
- 4th most rushing yards allowed per game (136.6 yards/game)
- 9th highest completion percentage by opponet (61.3%)
- 8th fewest sacks in the NFL (30)

Do I really need to draw this for you in crayon, Bob?

Bob's your Information Minister · 08-08-2006, 04:29 PM

It's the only measuring stick (besides his personal stats) that we have to judge him from last season.

There's just no evidence that suggest Law was getting burned all the time last year. None whatsoever.

Furthermore, if Law sucked so much, why would the same head coach go out and sign him again?

kamakazi_kal · 08-08-2006, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

You going to tell me one of their young defensive backs was the difference maker?

are you going to tell me that law was?...... well he is on you team now so i guess he really was the savior in your mind.

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08-08-2006, 01:36 PM	#1
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	Top 10 Newcomers in AFC West SoCals link: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mul...content.1.html #10 Lance Johnstone Defensive End, Raiders He's still a dangerous pass-rusher on third down and will be an excellent complement to emerging star Derrick Burgess, who had 16 sacks last season. Johnstone had 7.5 sacks for the Vikings last year and has 70 sacks in his 10-year career. He's known for his quickness and should make the Raiders' defense dangerous in passing situations. #9 Kyle Turley Offensive Lineman, Chiefs He missed the last two seasons with severe back problems and needs to put on weight in a hurry. Right tackle John Welbourn retired in the offseason, and Turley has a chance to earn the starting job if he performs well in training camp. The Chiefs traditionally have one of the best lines in football, although they are getting older. Perhaps Turley's fiery attitude will help keep the unit energized. #8 Jay Cutler Quarterback, Broncos He showed off his arm strength and accuracy in minicamp, leading some members of the media to wonder if he could challenge starter Jake Plummer. The Broncos say that's out of the question, but Cutler's presence will have an effect on this team by pushing Plummer to perform better. Denver has very high expectations this year, so if Plummer struggles, the strong-armed rookie out of Vanderbilt could get a shot. #7 Marlon McCree Safety, Chargers He's coming off a strong season in Carolina (88 tackles, three interceptions) and will likely start at free safety, although he can play strong safety as well. He'll help solidify a unit that was a question mark last season. #6 Kenard Lang Defensive End, Broncos Denver has to replace the versatile Trevor Pryce, so bringing in Lang assures they'll have a deep rotation on the line. Lang, who has 44 sacks in nine NFL seasons, is the latest former Brown to join Denver's defensive line. He struggled trying to transition to outside linebacker in a 3-4 set in Cleveland last year but will be back in his comfort zone with the Broncos. #5 Michael Huff Safety, Raiders Oakland doesn't seem to know where to play Huff, but the former Texas star can help them anywhere in the secondary. He worked at a few positions during minicamps and will likely settle at one of the safety spots. He's big enough to blitz and stop the run and fast enough to cover wideouts deep. The Raiders believe Huff will come in and instantly make the kind of big defensive plays they've been lacking. #4 Antonio Cromartie Cornerback, Chargers He's an incredible athlete with very little football experience. He missed almost all of his final season at Florida State with a knee injury, but he wowed NFL teams with a 4.4 40-yard dash and a 42-inch vertical. Cromartie is 6-foot-2 and has the agility to cover speedy receivers. Despite his lack of playing time, he enters an interesting situation, since the Chargers aren't thrilled with their current corners. Don't be surprised if he contributes immediately. #3 Tamba Hali Defensive End, Chiefs He impressed coaches during minicamps and will likely contribute from the start of the season. Teams were worried about his lack of girth leading up to the draft, but Kansas City doesn't seem concerned. The Chiefs are trying to improve the defense's attitude and hope that Hali's great energy is contagious. #2 Aaron Brooks Quarterback, Raiders The key to his success will be the offensive line. That unit stunk last season but could improve now that Hall of Fame lineman Art Shell is coach. When Brooks has time to throw, he's dangerous. But when he's under pressure, he's a turnover machine. He has a strong enough arm to throw long to Randy Moss. #1 Javon Walker Wide Receiver, Broncos Denver is pleased with the pace of Walker's comeback from knee surgery but knows to take it slow with the former Packer this summer. Walker tore his ACL in the first game of last season and has been working steadily to get back to full speed. The Broncos gave up a second-round pick for him and hope he can provide the consistent threat opposite Rod Smith they've been lacking. If Walker is close to 100 percent, he'll be a huge addition for an offense that needs big-play capability.

08-08-2006, 02:08 PM	#2
fdf Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,709	They missed Denver's new starting RB. .

08-08-2006, 02:20 PM	#3
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	They sure did!! IDIOTS!!! Paige just said that he would run for over 1,000 yards. Mariottti said that he would have 900 yards and 9 fumbles(I hate that guy)

08-08-2006, 02:25 PM	#4
Sarcastro Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 890	This must be old. No Ty Law.

08-08-2006, 02:43 PM	#5
youcandoit1687 homer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,602 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Myers	its from around when don banks was doing his early team reports. probly early july. don banks is a decent writer but his mockdrafts are totally off if i remember right

08-08-2006, 03:11 PM	#7
youcandoit1687 homer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,602 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Myers	i agree with florida, hell have about a 1 to 1 ratio of big plays given up to big plays made.

08-08-2006, 03:14 PM	#8
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	i think they nailed it with javon at 1

08-08-2006, 03:17 PM	#10
Darkdoc Bronco fan since '66 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Morrison, IL Posts: 420	Aaron Brooks at No. 2? Someone is smokin' the swamp weed again. He'd be overrated at TWENTY-two. He's the least capable QB in the AFC West, maybe the AFC.

08-08-2006, 04:16 PM	#15
ward63 The Burner Returner Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,161 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quincy Morgan	Brooks is definitly not #2, maybe 10...at best. I can hear it now..."Now on the clock w/the first selection in the 2007 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders." They're terrible! I actually feel bad for Randy and michael Huff.

08-08-2006, 04:21 PM	#19
Master___Pain Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Springs Posts: 4,605 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rock Hoover	In all honesty, Cutler does not belong on that list. Most likely (Hopefully) he won't see the field this year, hence I don't see him making much of an impact. Hali at #3 is a tad high too. Turley? Brooks? Come on, they have name recognition but I don't think they strike one bit of fear into anybody...except for maybe Raider and Chief fans.

08-08-2006, 04:29 PM	#24
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	It's the only measuring stick (besides his personal stats) that we have to judge him from last season. There's just no evidence that suggest Law was getting burned all the time last year. None whatsoever. Furthermore, if Law sucked so much, why would the same head coach go out and sign him again?